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SirMolle
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:13:00 -
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Greetings gentlemen. There will be no announcements today, only an information update of the war which has now entered its second phase. Interpret it how you like.
Period Basis AAA launched into PB with a sizeable Dreadnaught fleet, one Titan and a full fleet complement. 6 MC towers were placed into reinforced. MC diverted its forces to defend and arrived in time to save all towers. Two capital ships were lost in the process, but clarification is welcome..
Delve In between the roaming gangs, the region has been quiet. No sovereignty wars have been waged yet.
Querious An enemy fleet of RAZOR/IRON/MM/Pure/Tri numbering 150-200 at its peak attacked the FIX home system of ED-L9T. FIX brilliantly covered all moons in the system, forcing the coalition to struggle in gaining a foothold. After a week of hard fighting, two of the eleven FIX were destroyed and replaced with hostile ones.
Fountain D2 prepared by moving two dozen freighters full of fuels and components into Orvolle and portaling them, along with 40 Dreadnaughts, 1 Mothership and a dozen Carriers into YZ-LQL. They began assaulting 7BX-6F, and opening a foothold into the chokepoint system of Y-2ANO. Two weeks in, Sparta attacked G95F-H.
The Entrance We recalled from our strike base in HLW-HP (Curse) on Feb. 15th to defend. For two weeks the war was fought on two fronts simultaneously with positive results. But the entire capital fleet being shifted three regions over, six times, became expensive and was changed. In the first week, D2 claimed sovereignty over 7BX-6F but lost it the next day. The D2 Titan was destroyed on that day. Taking advantage of the lapse in organization, all but two towers in Fountain were destroyed. One in YZ-LQL (NPC) one in Y-2ANO.
BoB shifted once again, and focused on Querious. The siege of ED was stopped when six Dreadnaughts were caught in the open. The two enemy POS were shoved into reinforced more. D2 regrouped its forces at this time and made a large push towards Y-2ANO to save the last POS. Using the same tactic, we engaged in the second Dreadnaught fleet battle of the day. The system spiked to 250 pilots and stayed there for the majority of the fight. One by one, nine Dreadnaughts were destroyed for zero lost. The D2 fleet warped onto the grid, but did not engage. Fighting against time, the last ship was destroyed as a large goon gang jumped in. System spiked to 450, but soon fell as the Ragnarok took out 118 at a gate. It was the most destructive 48 hours of the entire war.
After placing the newly errected D2 towers into reinforced mode, the BoB capital fleet shifted back to Querious once again. The coalition lost its grasp on ED-L9T and began anchoring towers in 9CG6. Some were interdicted and destroyed before being onlined. Once again, D2 mare a push towards Y-2ANO where they unveiled a second Erebus that successfully delayed our counterattack. Their dreadnaughts then managed to escape. In an unexpected move, D2 pulled an alarm-clock op and logged 24 dreadnaughts onto their weakest timezone and finished off three of the Y-2ANO POS they had reinforced earlier. This was the most lost by BoB in any single op to date, and once again threatened the sovereignty of the system. The response was simple: Everything.
The following day, a Sunday, all scattered capital ships were brought into position. The goal was to reach 30 dreadnaughts, and enough support to lock down the system during D2 prime time. The actual result was a staggering 54 Dreads, 20 Carriers, 5 Motherships, and 2 Titans. A new record for BoB, and for EVE. D2 made no apperance then, or since. After destroying 4 D2 towers in Y-2ANO, the fleet jumped to YZ-LQL and reinforced two, then jumped to G95 and reinforced three of the six towers newly deployed by Sparta alliance.
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SirMolle
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:13:00 -
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On the following Tuesday, BoB held its own alarm-clock op and managed to assemble 38 Dreadnaughts during the weakest timezone to finish the job. Not knowing of this in advance, Sparta attempted to online another 4 towers to complement their existing 6 in G95F-H. Those were quickly interdicted and destroyed or reinforced before being set up. On the following two days, BoB found itself sieging YZ-LQL under a token force of 20-40 D2 pilots. Currently, no hostile towers remain in any conquerable station system in Fountain. D2 responded to the two destroyed POS in YZ-LQL by placing another. This was quickly reinforced and destroyed with BoB POS being placed in their stead, catching those that logged off. D2 responded a second time, by anchoring a fourth tower on Thursday March 1st to replace the third which was lost. It was reinforced, but on the same day RAZOR gained sovereignty in 9CG6 and the decision was made to let the Serpentis deal with it. On Friday March 2nd, a combined force of BoB, FIX and MC lay siege to all six hostile POS with overwhelming force.
Because they have been overloaded with stront, they will be offline and RAZOR will lose the system in any scenario. Result: no threats to sovereignty anywhere in BoB space. On the same day, D2 was seen moving freighters filled with POS supplies into Fountain from empire. So, the war is far from over. These are the stats of BoB in Month 1 for your consumption:
Capitals
Lost - 1 Dread, 2 Carriers
Killed - 17 Dreads, 1 Carrier, 1 Titan
Structures
Fountain
Y-2ANO: 12 Large | 5 Large G95F-H: 10 Large | 0 7BX-6F: 5 Large | 4 Large, 1 Medium YZ-LQL: 3 Large | 0 | 1 Reinforced
Querious
ED-L9T: 2 Large | 0 9CG6-H: 4 Large | 2 Large | 6 Reinforced
We eagerly await your next attempt.
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Irish8484
Top Gooners
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:16:00 -
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FIRST IN A BOB THREAD!!!!
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NereSky
Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:16:00 -
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i much prefer the other poster tbh, his seemed a lot more accurate and total free form self adulation where adulation isnt appropiate, but anyway nice to see facts from a differant perspective 
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Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:19:00 -
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Tsk tsk.. Molle posts are supposed to be on Sundays. This one is early.
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thoth foc
Elcyion Lacar
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:20:00 -
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good info _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB) |

V0rador
Amarr Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:22:00 -
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Edited by: V0rador on 03/03/2007 13:20:30 looks like he dont know the war isn't start yet.
Tick Tock Tick Tock |

Raivi
Explosion Matrix
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: Raivi on 03/03/2007 13:19:43 Good summary of your fronts in the war so far. It's been a while since I've seen you so publicly respectful for your enemies. part of me wants to cheer and the other wonders who you are and what you've done with Molle? 
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Menf
Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: NereSky i much prefer the other poster tbh, his seemed a lot more accurate and total free form self adulation where adulation isnt appropiate, but anyway nice to see facts from a differant perspective 
so come on and post it from your view...with all the facts... want to sum it up to the REAL TRUTH _____________________________________________
Some players allready noticed.. "If you SEE me, its allready too late..." |

NereSky
Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Menf
Originally by: NereSky i much prefer the other poster tbh, his seemed a lot more accurate and total free form self adulation where adulation isnt appropiate, but anyway nice to see facts from a differant perspective 
so come on and post it from your view...with all the facts... want to sum it up to the REAL TRUTH
i didnt say it was a lie, 2 differant people can read the same speech and make it sound differant. TBH im just a foot soldier seeing it from a foot soldiers pov, as far as im concerned these are only battles which tbh dont mean much in the grand scheme of things, i dont feel the need to pat myself on the back or sing my own praises that i will leave to the histories once the war has ended. plus im in no postion of Authority to post facts directly pertaining to this war or anything connected with it, so rather than breach my standing order i can and will post my comments on speech delivery in general which my post has done. as i said i prefer the other poster in the ops alliance, have a nice day :)
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Samiloth Justinian
AirHawk Alliance Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:31:00 -
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Nice to get a posting from BoB's perspective. No tendrils or over the top smacking. If there will be more postings like this I might have to start liking reading BoB postings ;)
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:31:00 -
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You forgot Tenerifis, and Omist 8(.

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McGin
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:31:00 -
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Nice Info and Read |

Bella Noma
Amarr Mapquest Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:32:00 -
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Edited by: Bella Noma on 03/03/2007 13:29:01
Originally by: SirMolle Because they have been overloaded with stront, they will be offline and RAZOR will lose the system in any scenario. Result: no threats to sovereignty anywhere in BoB space. On the same day, D2 was seen moving freighters filled with POS supplies into Fountain from empire. So, the war is far from over. These are the stats of BoB in Month 1 for your consumption:
hmm molle, i'm pretty sure pos don't use fuel except for stront while in reinforced.
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Sassinak
Arcane Technologies
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:35:00 -
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Sweet
I want one of those carrier thingies, better start saving  Sass Arcane Technologies |

Blitz'Krieg
Caldari SkyMarshal Logistics
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:36:00 -
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Edited by: Blitz''Krieg on 03/03/2007 13:34:34 Say what you like about BoB but I think its pretty evident if it was a straight fight gainst D2 they'd kick ass. Tbh i think once the swarm is brought to the table fully tho you guys are in trouble.
Props for a good report, and even tho i cant play atm i still read these forums more than i read the paper .. sad but true.
p.s. first page in an epic thread \o/ woot!
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Lasakywa
Caldari Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:37:00 -
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First page in a bob thread ?

Thanks for the info. Omfg, 54 dreads 
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Karunel
Princeps Corp YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:42:00 -
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Not overly arrogant, good summary. Thumbs up! 
Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
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Shiraz Merlot
Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:42:00 -
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Clip clop.
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Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Sassinak Sweet
I want one of those carrier thingies, better start saving 
impressive stats molle,
sassinak give thol a prod about one, he is rich these days...
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Third Down
Hard Rock Cafe
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:46:00 -
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BoB capital fleet aka "Everything": 54 Dreads, 20 Carriers, 5 Motherships, and 2 Titans.
There you go, tinfoil hatted intel *****s!
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:47:00 -
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It's your POV and there's not any smack.
I'm impressed molle  - http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0612/Jameswsig.jpg WeComeInPeace Video
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Odin Starwanderer
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:51:00 -
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//I am RA member, if it is not showing it under my avatar.
Now the negative stuff... 1 Month in to the war: You lost LV and with it a lot manpower. You are fighting against the rest of EVE and as you pointed out, not at your prime time. How long can you go without sleep? Considering you declared the war, how was it your plan to win it fighting on your own ground?
I have to hand it to you, that being able to defend your ground, for now, shows how committed, orginised and skilled you are. Still, fighting this war, if you are not clear of what is important and what not will not only make you loose all your ground but also destroy your real lives.
Interpret it how you like.
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Xthril Ranger
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:53:00 -
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The real question is , are you defending LV?  you'll never jump alone
Your signature is inappropriate. Please read the forum rules before reposting- Tirg |

christoforos
Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:57:00 -
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Good performance but basically you failed to fulfill your last announcement.
Quote: The Pendulum wars moves into its second phase, and it keeps on ticking. Will you live to see the third phase?
It's time. You're it. Chow, we're stealing your targets. Tick tock.
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Karina Harington
Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.03 13:58:00 -
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Not a lot to complain about in there, much prefered over previous posts :)
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Kharakan
Amarr Magnificent Beavers Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: Kharakan on 03/03/2007 13:57:31 ZOMG MOLLE POST
Ah feck, just missed the first page >_<
this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
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Kalissa
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:03:00 -
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Edited by: Kalissa on 03/03/2007 13:59:34 A pretty good post from Molle, just two points I'd like to raise.
1) A pos when in re-inforced does not use fuel, if it's in re-inforced for 3+ days then it'll stay that way, then start consuming fuel as normal when it exits
2) Molle forgot to mention when D2 unveiled their 2nd Erebus they did it by toasting 60-70 BoB 
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Thoric Frosthammer
The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:05:00 -
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Fascinating exercise in spin control by limiting the scope of information presented.
For example:
Hasn't included BoB pet cap losses in his total. It goes much higher, trust me.
Hasn't remembered the bit about "abandoned LV to the locomotive of surprise intercourse, causing their almost immediate collapse and exposing our feythabolis flank to almost completely unopposed raids by RAGoon and allies, who annihilate our RISE pets at will, more or less, and have already placed pos's in key systems there, including the RIT triangle"
It's not that impressive to hold your own in a fistfight when there's a guy behind you with a knife.
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MasterDecoy
Gallente Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:10:00 -
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They've abducted Molle!
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Snodgey2004
Mega Modal M0nkeys
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Thoric Frosthammer Fascinating exercise in spin control by limiting the scope of information presented.
For example:
Hasn't included BoB pet cap losses in his total. It goes much higher, trust me.
Hasn't remembered the bit about "abandoned LV to the locomotive of surprise intercourse, causing their almost immediate collapse and exposing our feythabolis flank to almost completely unopposed raids by RAGoon and allies, who annihilate our RISE pets at will, more or less, and have already placed pos's in key systems there, including the RIT triangle"
It's not that impressive to hold your own in a fistfight when there's a guy behind you with a knife.
It's what happens when you are bias , no-one from the opposite side of BoB are gonna make a post making out tht they are losing either , same goes for anyone else . What they are facing I'd say BoB are doing a good job at the moment , some people will say the whole armada of alliances isn't against them yet but that is when you'll see a post from BoB's enemies with the same kinda of thread your looking at now .
Nice post either way , or at least better than some previous ones .
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Third Down
Hard Rock Cafe
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:11:00 -
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Edited by: Third Down on 03/03/2007 14:08:49
Originally by: Kalissa Edited by: Kalissa on 03/03/2007 13:59:34 A pretty good post from Molle, just two points I'd like to raise.
1) A pos when in re-inforced does not use fuel, if it's in re-inforced for 3+ days then it'll stay that way, then start consuming fuel as normal when it exits
2) Molle forgot to mention when D2 unveiled their 2nd Erebus they did it by toasting 60-70 BoB 
no fan of BoB, but:
1) It *can* run out of the fuel needed for the tower to run its guns, EW etc.
2) He's constraining his post to components of strategic importance. These are: capital ships, POS, stations, allies, and morale. Losing a pile of battleships to a DD isn't that big a deal to an alliance with a strong industrial base.
Whether or not the numbers are accurate or meaningful I cannot say (as someone pointed out, it's unclear whether BoB's tenants and allies are counted)
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Temujin Destovai
Caldari Children of Xanadu
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:13:00 -
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Sounds exiting.
The Chronicles of Xanadu |

Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:14:00 -
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why would he make much mention of the meathshields BOB have organised around them?
They are paying BOB and dying for BOB while defending "their" space, its all they are meant to be doing.
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Dirt McGirtt
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:14:00 -
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FAKE
you can clearly see this is all fake, as he cant keep a straight face.
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Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Third Down 1) It *can* run out of the fuel needed for the tower to run its guns, EW etc.
Everything that uses CPU (i.e. scramblers, EW, hardeners) switches off when a POS hits reinforced mode, regardless of how much fuel is left in the tower.
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Will Fireblade
Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: SirMolle
Capitals
Lost - 1 Dread, 2 Carriers
Killed - 17 Dreads, 1 Carrier, 1 Titan
Structures
Fountain
Y-2ANO: 12 Large | 5 Large G95F-H: 10 Large | 0 7BX-6F: 5 Large | 4 Large, 1 Medium YZ-LQL: 3 Large | 0 | 1 Reinforced
Querious
ED-L9T: 2 Large | 0 9CG6-H: 4 Large | 2 Large | 6 Reinforced
We eagerly await your next attempt.
You are forgetting 1 freighter with a nyx Bpo
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SirMolle
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:15:00 -
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Minor update;
9CG station is currently being retaken into BoB possession.
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:16:00 -
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Looks like an LV announcement : "Look at my killboard" while being a punching ball.
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Myz Toyou
the Organ Grinder and Company Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:17:00 -
[40]
Originally by: ScreamingLord Sutch Edited by: ScreamingLord Sutch on 03/03/2007 14:03:02
Originally by: Bella Noma
oh, and you forgot to tally in how much it costs BOB in fuel to run 54 dreads. it's pretty staggering as well.
1) HAHAHA You killed me but I bet the antimatter cost a fortune!1!! 2) Man, he beat the **** outta me but did you see what I did to his fists?
And nice report, factual and enlightening.
STFU and post with your main, BOD alt !
And to the OP, nice sum up, bit biased but its your view of the things, seems your already sober after your last announcement ( or you changed the ghostwriter )
CYVOK > All you station jockies better get out their and start killing these idiots
SirMolle 2006.12.13 12:18:00 I dont lie to my members ever. Theres your answer. |
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R0ot
InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Will Fireblade You are forgetting 1 freighter with a nyx Bpo
Can i please ascertain where all you people are getting your bpo/bpc killmail scanners, as id really like to pick one of those up, you guys don't know if it was a bpo or a bpc so stop trying to state something that isnt known as a fact.
Also nice post Molle, Evil still rains! 
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Reverend Revelator
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:19:00 -
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Holy Mother of Smackdowns, BoB must be fighting for their lives if they post something THAT smackfree...
-- Dead People Laugh At The Murder Of Love -- |

The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Amerame Looks like an LV announcement : "Look at my killboard" while being a punching ball.
Thread over. Amerame wins.
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ramptrick
Caldari Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:26:00 -
[44]
nice post, good info..
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Martin Mckenna
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Third Down Edited by: Third Down on 03/03/2007 14:08:49
Originally by: Kalissa Edited by: Kalissa on 03/03/2007 13:59:34 A pretty good post from Molle, just two points I'd like to raise.
1) A pos when in re-inforced does not use fuel, if it's in re-inforced for 3+ days then it'll stay that way, then start consuming fuel as normal when it exits
2) Molle forgot to mention when D2 unveiled their 2nd Erebus they did it by toasting 60-70 BoB 
...and morale....
Losing a pile of battleships to a DD isn't that big a deal to an alliance with a strong industrial base.
Thats a huge morale blow mate -------------------------------------------
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Dirtball
Kemono. Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:31:00 -
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Tell your pilots to stop convo'ing me about how bad pos wars suck and they want to join KEM its getting old.
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Darth Bob
Dark Excession The Cartel.
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:32:00 -
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With the recent withdrawel of BoB from the forums I must say I look forward to these posts. And nice results.
About BoB arrogance: With results like these, I'd be a lot worse than Molle, or even DBP (is that even possible?)
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Stoned Celt
Bloodnok Technologies
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:34:00 -
[48]
Informative post thanks..
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Chewan Mesa
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:35:00 -
[49]
Impressive balancing act so far, and good luck keeping that up, though you prolly wont need it.
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Marcellus Corteaz
Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:43:00 -
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its the story so far from bob's perspective, and it's pretty much on the line from what i can remember, in contrast to the heated statement a few weeks ago, I can't see how anyone can really flame molle... that much,
refreshing change! look forward to the end of month 2 report 
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Karrimdra
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:45:00 -
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the point about overloading is, if you have that much stront in them, they only have 1-2 hours when they come out of reinforced where they are online.
Yes, in reinforced they do not use fuel. They do when they come out, which means you have to recharge and refuel very quickly after reinforced ends.
nice stats :) From nothing to something in just one corp!
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LeZbo Liza
Minmatar LeZbo Liza Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:49:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Martin Mckenna
Originally by: Third Down Edited by: Third Down on 03/03/2007 14:08:49
Originally by: Kalissa Edited by: Kalissa on 03/03/2007 13:59:34 A pretty good post from Molle, just two points I'd like to raise.
1) A pos when in re-inforced does not use fuel, if it's in re-inforced for 3+ days then it'll stay that way, then start consuming fuel as normal when it exits
2) Molle forgot to mention when D2 unveiled their 2nd Erebus they did it by toasting 60-70 BoB 
...and morale....
Losing a pile of battleships to a DD isn't that big a deal to an alliance with a strong industrial base.
Thats a huge morale blow mate
maybe to a small merc corp with no space to hold.........
but an alliance no....
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Helina Malinos
Caldari Euro Traders
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Posted - 2007.03.03 14:56:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Kalissa Edited by: Kalissa on 03/03/2007 13:59:34 A pretty good post from Molle, just two points I'd like to raise.
1) A pos when in re-inforced does not use fuel, if it's in re-inforced for 3+ days then it'll stay that way, then start consuming fuel as normal when it exits quote]
If only there was a book on silly quotes and you would be right at the top of it.
Instead of not using fuel it in fact uses it at doubble the rate than normal.
you where close though.
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Kalissa
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.03.03 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Helina Malinos
Originally by: Kalissa Edited by: Kalissa on 03/03/2007 13:59:34 A pretty good post from Molle, just two points I'd like to raise.
1) A pos when in re-inforced does not use fuel, if it's in re-inforced for 3+ days then it'll stay that way, then start consuming fuel as normal when it exits quote]
If only there was a book on silly quotes and you would be right at the top of it.
Instead of not using fuel it in fact uses it at doubble the rate than normal.
you where close though.
Unless CCP have changed something within the last couple of months, when a tower goes into reinforced it every item within the pos that requires cpu goes offline and the tower ceases to use regular fuel for the duration of the reinforced cycle. We had it happen to a POS of ours a while back, it had under a day of fuel in it when it got attacked and put into reinforced. The fuel was not consumed again until it left reinforced.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.03 15:05:00 -
[55]
"We were just testing your respone time"
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Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.03.03 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Karrimdra the point about overloading is, if you have that much stront in them, they only have 1-2 hours when they come out of reinforced where they are online.
A POS fully loaded with stront and sovereignty would have 4 days and 15 hours of reinforced mode. None of the POS in 9CG have that.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.03 15:11:00 -
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I have to say its a pretty good post from Molle, not the usual **** at all 
Report is fairly accurate as far as the battles I were in are concerned.
Of course there is a fair few things missing, like the BOB allies losses not mentioned, and the POS's they lost and the ones we took...yes took 
Thanks for the free ships and the tower...might want to put some fuel in them in future. I was there when you dropped that massive fleet in Y-2 with 2 titans and swarm of capitals, and yes there wasn't much we could do, but at least we kept you from being elsewhere 
Even with hundreds in local, I have seen no smack from BOB towards us, so respect for that. (I can't say the same for some of their pets though...)
Nice report, lets have some more pew pew  You signature graphic must reflect your ingame persona as per The Forum rules - Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) |

Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.03.03 15:13:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Shin Ra "We were just testing your respone time"

Originally by: Ice Conch In soviet russia, soap drops you!
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Rule2k
Fate. Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 15:14:00 -
[59]
lol that pic means nothing, my title is cowboy woodie and friends buzz lightyear.
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Valkazm
Amarr ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.03 15:15:00 -
[60]
/me feels very dead and starts moving his stuff 
Step into the darkness |
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Jennie Marlboro
No Quarter. C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.03.03 15:15:00 -
[61]
Who kidnaped the real Sir Molle and replaced him with this non-egomaniac? 
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Aya Otosaki
Amarr Burlesque of Ill Repute
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Posted - 2007.03.03 15:16:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Rule2k lol that pic means nothing, my title is cowboy woodie and friends buzz lightyear.
ok ----- Ignorance is my strength. |

Ricarda M
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.03 15:20:00 -
[63]
good Summary!
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Spike Spiegle
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 15:23:00 -
[64]
Nice post...
Apparently BOB can handle this on there own as fix and the rest of BOB's allies have only assisted in ED-L9T.
Its nice to know that you guys pay rent to defend an "ally" that doesn't acknowledge your assistance 
Lots of mention to the fight and assistance that LV is giving to BOB also in throwing themselves to RAGOON and TCF as a "meat shield" 
It must be nice to know you are all appreciated?
To bobs allies (FIX Gunboat and DFC) Good fights so far ...
To bob wow you own titans you must be the best 
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.03 15:24:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Amerame Looks like an LV announcement : "Look at my killboard" while being a punching ball.
If Bob is being smacked around then why is the northern coalition unable to gain any ground? -----
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Sorja
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.03 15:25:00 -
[66]
Much less arrogance in this thread than in the past.
That sums it up, IMHO. ____________________ A gentleman is someone who can play the bagpipe, but who does not. |

Detaitiv
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.03 15:29:00 -
[67]
Molle, you need a new pony.
This tricks ridden itself out a couple years ago.
Pretending your meatshield isn't there and not even mentioning their sacrifice is kinda short term PR gain, long term loss. I should know, I made that mistake often enough in the past.
Oh wait, you still haven't purged those who crossed the line from BoB. Nevermind. Please continue.
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D2O HeavyWater
Amarr Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.03 15:30:00 -
[68]
Nice calm post molle, makes a refreshing change.
In preparing for battle I have always found that plans are useless, but planning is indispensable.
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.03.03 15:35:00 -
[69]
Good to see CCP really bans people who reveal personal information \o/
Die (c) ET
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scabbsssjr
Gallente M'8'S
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Posted - 2007.03.03 15:53:00 -
[70]
I sense an alarm clock post?
Good read. What about LV? ---------------------------
Originally by: Ductoris At this rate I'm going to ask for a BOB sub-forum.
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Matrices Reborn
Ars ex Discordia Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 15:56:00 -
[71]
Students of history are instructed to analyze historical documents with an eye to what is written just as much as to what is not written.
What is written here? Impressive tactical victories on the field against the North.
But what is not written here? Zero recognition of allies, associates, and pets' critical contribution in fending off the North.
What is the purpose of this omission?
Simple: to admit this reality of the war would call attention to the uncomfortable fact that BoB is losing strategically even though it is winning tactically.
To wit - it has failed to save massive southern ally (LV); it has called in all its cards, garnering the active assistance of its competent friends (MC, RISE, E-O); and it very soon faces The Train, which is poised to roll through ex-ASCN space and will at the least force E-O and RISE off the Northern front to defend their respective areas.
Molle fondly speaks in terms of phases, but the qualitatively material phase in this war is one which he understandably chooses not to address.
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xHomicide
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 16:00:00 -
[72]
Overall good summary of BoB's involvement in the war.
No one can deny it, when BoB moves their supercapital fleet around as one unit they perform well. They are unmatched on any single front. But then again, the vast majority of the battles are actually against the southern residents. --- http://www.razor-eve.org/killboard/?a=kills
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bulabuba
Gallente Klima Galactic
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Posted - 2007.03.03 16:03:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Amerame Looks like an LV announcement : "Look at my killboard" while being a punching ball.
If Bob is being smacked around then why is the northern coalition unable to gain any ground?
Because it's not about the northerners gaining any ground. Here, let me help you out:
Originally by: SirMolle We recalled from our strike base in HLW-HP (Curse) on Feb. 15th to defend.
That's the most salient sentence in the whole post. That's what the northerners came to do, and they got it done. If BoB had not done that, you'd have seen it going the other way. There'd probably be slower progress, or maybe even a stalemate in the east, but the Northerners would be chewing up Fountain and Querious. Either way works.
This post can be summed up nicely as "we're holding our home ground". Unfortunately in this case, for BoB, that means they're doing just what their adversary wants them to do. -----------------------------------------------
Are GoonSwarm ever going to be allowed to build up in any way in 0.0 space again? No.
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Tholarim
Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.03 16:04:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Detaitiv Molle, you need a new pony.
This tricks ridden itself out a couple years ago.
Pretending your meatshield isn't there and not even mentioning their sacrifice is kinda short term PR gain, long term loss. I should know, I made that mistake often enough in the past.
Oh wait, you still haven't purged those who crossed the line from BoB. Nevermind. Please continue.
are you that bitter that you cannot think straight?
These stats are about bob vs the entities we fought. These stats are from the fight BOB waged. If you want us to add allied losses, we should add allied kills to. Like MC's 3 dreadkills on you guys for example.
Because it is impossible for us to have a clear picture of all those stats we chose to show the ones WE had. The forums are a sad display of mob mentality, rumours being forwarded as truths, and continual blaiming of other for your own mistakes. We will have no part in that. Enjoy your whining and chest beating till next month.
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Rolled
Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.03 16:05:00 -
[75]
This OP seems highly myopic.
I will never get an answer but I must ask anyways because I so very curious. How do you get alliances to PAY you (BOB) to defend your territory? Please do share that secret with me.
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Topaz Skydiver
Minmatar Narrative Freshfood
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Posted - 2007.03.03 16:13:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Topaz Skydiver on 03/03/2007 16:10:56
Originally by: bulabuba
Originally by: SirMolle We recalled from our strike base in HLW-HP (Curse) on Feb. 15th to defend.
That's the most salient sentence in the whole post. That's what the northerners came to do, and they got it done. If BoB had not done that...
That was surely not unexpected by BoB. They probably thought: 'Either the north sits still and watches, how we kill Goonswarm or they come to our homeland and we fight them on our ground.'
The only thing that maybe came unexpected is how many corps and alliances joined the coalition.
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mamolian
Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 16:16:00 -
[77]
I was shouting Boo Uuurns

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Xeliya
Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.03.03 16:17:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Xeliya on 03/03/2007 16:13:30
Originally by: Thoric Frosthammer Fascinating exercise in spin control by limiting the scope of information presented.
For example:
Hasn't included BoB pet cap losses in his total. It goes much higher, trust me.
Hasn't remembered the bit about "abandoned LV to the locomotive of surprise intercourse, causing their almost immediate collapse and exposing our feythabolis flank to almost completely unopposed raids by RAGoon and allies, who annihilate our RISE pets at will, more or less, and have already placed pos's in key systems there, including the RIT triangle"
It's not that impressive to hold your own in a fistfight when there's a guy behind you with a knife.
Actually pet losses arn't that high actually I believe FIX has lost a few Carriers and thats it, the Caps included there are MC.
Also the RIT towers were popped by RISE alone, the Goon and RA fleet couldn't crash the node to save them  ----------
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scabbsssjr
Gallente M'8'S
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Posted - 2007.03.03 16:18:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Will Fireblade
Originally by: SirMolle
Capitals
Lost - 1 Dread, 2 Carriers
Killed - 17 Dreads, 1 Carrier, 1 Titan
Structures
Fountain
Y-2ANO: 12 Large | 5 Large G95F-H: 10 Large | 0 7BX-6F: 5 Large | 4 Large, 1 Medium YZ-LQL: 3 Large | 0 | 1 Reinforced
Querious
ED-L9T: 2 Large | 0 9CG6-H: 4 Large | 2 Large | 6 Reinforced
We eagerly await your next attempt.
You are forgetting 1 freighter with a nyx Bpo
Ya and the two freightos BOB killed near orvolle. ---------------------------
Originally by: Ductoris At this rate I'm going to ask for a BOB sub-forum.
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Aphotic Raven
Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.03 16:18:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Spike Spiegle Nice post...
Apparently BOB can handle this on there own as fix and the rest of BOB's allies have only assisted in ED-L9T.
Its nice to know that you guys pay rent to defend an "ally" that doesn't acknowledge your assistance 
Lots of mention to the fight and assistance that LV is giving to BOB also in throwing themselves to RAGOON and TCF as a "meat shield" 
It must be nice to know you are all appreciated?
To bobs allies (FIX Gunboat and DFC) Good fights so far ...
To bob wow you own titans you must be the best 
Tbh if your allys fought like FIX would you acknowledge them?
This is the bob show... no ones really trying to thrust straight through bob... but they cant be in 5 places at once.
I have never fought bob in a major battle before visiting fix at the start of the year and i wasnt all that impressed with DICE... fleet battles with the rest of bob in 9cg recently have changed my mind, very impressive indeed, not really a suprise that you're on top for fleet warfare with those kind of moves... although the titans kind of a spoiler...
A pretty good analysis by Molle here of how BoB has performed, given the odds they are still holding up well.
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Xeliya
Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.03.03 16:21:00 -
[81]
Edited by: Xeliya on 03/03/2007 16:18:16
Originally by: Aphotic Raven Lots of mention to the fight and assistance that LV is giving to BOB also in throwing themselves to RAGOON and TCF as a "meat shield" 
LV have never been meat shields nor has anyone else, BoB went to go help them and declared war on goons not the other way around. ----------
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Erfurt
MetaForge Ekliptika
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Posted - 2007.03.03 16:23:00 -
[82]
This post by molley is purely a polictal one. He is trying to state facts and not to bragg to show the new face of bob. This is to help weaken the resolve of bob's enemies.
WE STILL KNOW THE TRUTH.
Erfurt
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PirateShampoo
Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.03 16:29:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Xeliya Edited by: Xeliya on 03/03/2007 16:18:16
Originally by: Aphotic Raven Lots of mention to the fight and assistance that LV is giving to BOB also in throwing themselves to RAGOON and TCF as a "meat shield" 
LV have never been meat shields nor has anyone else, BoB went to go help them and declared war on goons not the other way around.
QFT
The Coalition thrust a knife into LV's heart, thing is it's still beating.
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R0ot
InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 16:32:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Spike Spiegle Its nice to know that you guys pay rent to defend an "ally" that doesn't acknowledge your assistance
We don't actually pay rent mate 
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.03 16:33:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Spike Spiegle Its nice to know that you guys pay rent to defend an "ally" that doesn't acknowledge your assistance 
What makes you think fix and other bob allies care about such petty things? Everyone knows their place and the place of other alliances in Bob space, they can easily who fights and who doesn't and the appreciation where it matters. Whether or not it gets a mention on the whorums doesn't change anything.  -----
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xHomicide
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 16:42:00 -
[86]
Edited by: xHomicide on 03/03/2007 16:40:38
Originally by: Xeliya Edited by: Xeliya on 03/03/2007 16:18:16
Originally by: Aphotic Raven Lots of mention to the fight and assistance that LV is giving to BOB also in throwing themselves to RAGOON and TCF as a "meat shield" 
LV have never been meat shields nor has anyone else, BoB went to go help them and declared war on goons not the other way around.
and the north in turn declared war on BoB... this is one great war.
The north had the option to push the eastern front, instead they choose to force multiple fronts. BoB is the super power of the south. It is 'expected' that they can 'hold' the front they choose to play on.
They are 'holding' the west while they are 'losing' the east. The great feat would have been if they held both fronts. Well, that didn't happen. --- http://www.razor-eve.org/killboard/?a=kills
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insanebe
Caldari soni Corp Imperium Sonorumance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 16:47:00 -
[87]
There really isn't a way for both sides to have 1 set of kills and losses without them all posting on 1 kill board, because there are too many alliances involved the only way would be if they all posted they mails under 1 flag or something knowledge is power.... guard it well |

Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.03.03 16:52:00 -
[88]
After this war is over, I am moving down here, Ore is fantastic, there is a complex every other system, and I have never seen so many 1 mil + rats in my life!
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Takahashi Arran
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2007.03.03 17:05:00 -
[89]
Sir molle has posted a thread which is, reasonably smack free and secondly a day early... this is certainly a telling sign of how the war is going. Though i agree that the K/D statistics are usless as they stand and should really be allied v allied for an accurate picture *snip*. Signature inappropriate - Valorem |

Nacona
Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 17:10:00 -
[90]
While I do enforce a Sparta policy of silence both in local and on the forums, I feel a tip of the hat is deserved...
I can only speak in the context of the fountain front, but all of the fights have been very professional with almost no smack at all. We are having the time of our lives and look forward to the next round 
GF to all involved and we'll see you on the KB's 
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Dirty Knave
Gallente Damage Unlimited Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.03 17:14:00 -
[91]
Nice job BoB in kicking D2 and friends out of your space. Very nice stats too. Keep it up!
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THRASHER23
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 17:19:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Dirty Knave Nice job BoB in kicking D2 and friends out of your space. Very nice stats too. Keep it up!
hey man...look at the map bob didn't kick anyone out of anywhere we have done the kicking. Even if they take sov/station back we still will fight and be right in their face. We aren't going anywhere even if they are 3000 to our 300! FOR DEATH AND GLORY!!! |

Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.03 17:21:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Dirty Knave Nice job BoB in kicking D2 and friends out of your space. Very nice stats too. Keep it up!
 You signature graphic must reflect your ingame persona as per The Forum rules - Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) |

Xio2
FAO Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.03 17:39:00 -
[94]
hey dude...
hows BOB members social lives doin? -------------- now this is the way a sig should be Xio2 |

Gallente Caliente
Anti-BoB Flash Mob
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Posted - 2007.03.03 17:48:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Tholarim The forums are a sad display of mob mentality, rumours being forwarded as truths, and continual blaiming of other for your own mistakes. We will have no part in that. Enjoy your whining and chest beating till next month.
WE LEARNED IT BY WATCHING YOU! ----------------------------------------------- www.nobob.info |

Haargoth Agamar
S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.
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Posted - 2007.03.03 17:49:00 -
[96]
Originally by: THRASHER23
Originally by: Dirty Knave Nice job BoB in kicking D2 and friends out of your space. Very nice stats too. Keep it up!
hey man...look at the map bob didn't kick anyone out of anywhere we have done the kicking. Even if they take sov/station back we still will fight and be right in their face. We aren't going anywhere even if they are 3000 to our 300!

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Haargoth Agamar
S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.
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Posted - 2007.03.03 17:49:00 -
[97]
Originally by: THRASHER23
Originally by: Dirty Knave Nice job BoB in kicking D2 and friends out of your space. Very nice stats too. Keep it up!
hey man...look at the map bob didn't kick anyone out of anywhere we have done the kicking. Even if they take sov/station back we still will fight and be right in their face. We aren't going anywhere even if they are 3000 to our 300!

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Haargoth Agamar
S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.
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Posted - 2007.03.03 17:49:00 -
[98]
Originally by: THRASHER23
Originally by: Dirty Knave Nice job BoB in kicking D2 and friends out of your space. Very nice stats too. Keep it up!
hey man...look at the map bob didn't kick anyone out of anywhere we have done the kicking. Even if they take sov/station back we still will fight and be right in their face. We aren't going anywhere even if they are 3000 to our 300!

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Weatherman
Gallente Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.03 17:52:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Xio2 hey dude...
hows BOB members social lives doin?
yea, um, you're posting on the forums for a mmorpg. Don't even play that card.
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Weatherman
Gallente Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.03 17:52:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Xio2 hey dude...
hows BOB members social lives doin?
yea, um, you're posting on the forums for a mmorpg. Don't even play that card.
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Weatherman
Gallente Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.03 17:52:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Xio2 hey dude...
hows BOB members social lives doin?
yea, um, you're posting on the forums for a mmorpg. Don't even play that card.
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Nm'Me
Amarr Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.03 17:55:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Weatherman
Originally by: Xio2 hey dude...
hows BOB members social lives doin?
yea, um, you're posting on the forums for a mmorpg. Don't even play that card.
C'mon it's obvious that Xio2 is the only one playing eve that have a social life!!! Or maybe not ^^ _______________________ *snip* please keep sigs EVE-related. Contact [email protected] if you have any further questions - Karass Sayfo |

Nm'Me
Amarr Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.03 17:55:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Weatherman
Originally by: Xio2 hey dude...
hows BOB members social lives doin?
yea, um, you're posting on the forums for a mmorpg. Don't even play that card.
C'mon it's obvious that Xio2 is the only one playing eve that have a social life!!! Or maybe not ^^ _______________________ *snip* please keep sigs EVE-related. Contact [email protected] if you have any further questions - Karass Sayfo |

Nm'Me
Amarr Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.03 17:55:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Weatherman
Originally by: Xio2 hey dude...
hows BOB members social lives doin?
yea, um, you're posting on the forums for a mmorpg. Don't even play that card.
C'mon it's obvious that Xio2 is the only one playing eve that have a social life!!! Or maybe not ^^ _______________________ *snip* please keep sigs EVE-related. Contact [email protected] if you have any further questions - Karass Sayfo |

Weatherman
Gallente Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.03 17:58:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Aphotic Raven
Originally by: Spike Spiegle Nice post...
Apparently BOB can handle this on there own as fix and the rest of BOB's allies have only assisted in ED-L9T.
Its nice to know that you guys pay rent to defend an "ally" that doesn't acknowledge your assistance 
Lots of mention to the fight and assistance that LV is giving to BOB also in throwing themselves to RAGOON and TCF as a "meat shield" 
It must be nice to know you are all appreciated?
To bobs allies (FIX Gunboat and DFC) Good fights so far ...
To bob wow you own titans you must be the best 
Tbh if your allys fought like FIX would you acknowledge them?
This is the bob show... no ones really trying to thrust straight through bob... but they cant be in 5 places at once.
I have never fought bob in a major battle before visiting fix at the start of the year and i wasnt all that impressed with DICE... fleet battles with the rest of bob in 9cg recently have changed my mind, very impressive indeed, not really a suprise that you're on top for fleet warfare with those kind of moves... although the titans kind of a spoiler...
A pretty good analysis by Molle here of how BoB has performed, given the odds they are still holding up well.
I think it's funny how one of IRON's most smacktastic members rarely brings more than an assault frig to fights. Forum warrior ftw.
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Weatherman
Gallente Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.03 17:58:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Aphotic Raven
Originally by: Spike Spiegle Nice post...
Apparently BOB can handle this on there own as fix and the rest of BOB's allies have only assisted in ED-L9T.
Its nice to know that you guys pay rent to defend an "ally" that doesn't acknowledge your assistance 
Lots of mention to the fight and assistance that LV is giving to BOB also in throwing themselves to RAGOON and TCF as a "meat shield" 
It must be nice to know you are all appreciated?
To bobs allies (FIX Gunboat and DFC) Good fights so far ...
To bob wow you own titans you must be the best 
Tbh if your allys fought like FIX would you acknowledge them?
This is the bob show... no ones really trying to thrust straight through bob... but they cant be in 5 places at once.
I have never fought bob in a major battle before visiting fix at the start of the year and i wasnt all that impressed with DICE... fleet battles with the rest of bob in 9cg recently have changed my mind, very impressive indeed, not really a suprise that you're on top for fleet warfare with those kind of moves... although the titans kind of a spoiler...
A pretty good analysis by Molle here of how BoB has performed, given the odds they are still holding up well.
I think it's funny how one of IRON's most smacktastic members rarely brings more than an assault frig to fights. Forum warrior ftw.
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Weatherman
Gallente Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.03 17:58:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Aphotic Raven
Originally by: Spike Spiegle Nice post...
Apparently BOB can handle this on there own as fix and the rest of BOB's allies have only assisted in ED-L9T.
Its nice to know that you guys pay rent to defend an "ally" that doesn't acknowledge your assistance 
Lots of mention to the fight and assistance that LV is giving to BOB also in throwing themselves to RAGOON and TCF as a "meat shield" 
It must be nice to know you are all appreciated?
To bobs allies (FIX Gunboat and DFC) Good fights so far ...
To bob wow you own titans you must be the best 
Tbh if your allys fought like FIX would you acknowledge them?
This is the bob show... no ones really trying to thrust straight through bob... but they cant be in 5 places at once.
I have never fought bob in a major battle before visiting fix at the start of the year and i wasnt all that impressed with DICE... fleet battles with the rest of bob in 9cg recently have changed my mind, very impressive indeed, not really a suprise that you're on top for fleet warfare with those kind of moves... although the titans kind of a spoiler...
A pretty good analysis by Molle here of how BoB has performed, given the odds they are still holding up well.
I think it's funny how one of IRON's most smacktastic members rarely brings more than an assault frig to fights. Forum warrior ftw.
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Gibmundur
Amarr Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.03.03 18:00:00 -
[108]
cheater Your signature is inappropriate. Please read the forum rules before reposting- Tirg |

Gibmundur
Amarr Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.03.03 18:00:00 -
[109]
cheater Your signature is inappropriate. Please read the forum rules before reposting- Tirg |

Hermia
HIVE X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.03.03 18:01:00 -
[110]
Gota hand it to BOB, they're the real deal!
Hardly any crying or whining, just getting on with it. They are the best players in eve fighting the most difficult odds. How romantic being part of the elite of the elite fighting backs to the wall untill the end. Thoughs futile gestures of bravery rejecting the inevitable.
Well its not that dramatic, but i wish it was . In a way i get the impression that BOB want to be forced into a new situation, that they crave an underdog label and to be expected to loose. No expectations and a task too insurmountable to win.
OBVIOUSLY we not at that point yet, but the fall of LV will provide us with an epic changing of the status quo that should be as good as the GNW (hopefully).
play it out and close out this great chapter in eve.
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Hermia
HIVE X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.03.03 18:01:00 -
[111]
Gota hand it to BOB, they're the real deal!
Hardly any crying or whining, just getting on with it. They are the best players in eve fighting the most difficult odds. How romantic being part of the elite of the elite fighting backs to the wall untill the end. Thoughs futile gestures of bravery rejecting the inevitable.
Well its not that dramatic, but i wish it was . In a way i get the impression that BOB want to be forced into a new situation, that they crave an underdog label and to be expected to loose. No expectations and a task too insurmountable to win.
OBVIOUSLY we not at that point yet, but the fall of LV will provide us with an epic changing of the status quo that should be as good as the GNW (hopefully).
play it out and close out this great chapter in eve.
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DTee
The Huns
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Posted - 2007.03.03 18:07:00 -
[112]
Edited by: DTee on 03/03/2007 18:05:17
Originally by: Omega Man The arrogance does seem to be reduced.
That makes for better reading and it also probably says a lot about the war BOB are fighting.
Difficult to be arrogant currently i suspect.
Defeating an alliance with a coalition is nothing to brag about. I use the term defeating loosely.
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DTee
The Huns
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Posted - 2007.03.03 18:07:00 -
[113]
Edited by: DTee on 03/03/2007 18:05:17
Originally by: Omega Man The arrogance does seem to be reduced.
That makes for better reading and it also probably says a lot about the war BOB are fighting.
Difficult to be arrogant currently i suspect.
Defeating an alliance with a coalition is nothing to brag about. I use the term defeating loosely.
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Drakma
Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.03.03 18:11:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Third Down ... Losing a pile of battleships to a DD isn't that big a deal to an alliance with a strong industrial base.
This sounds familiar....
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Horatio Nately
Caldari 808 Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.03.03 18:11:00 -
[115]
interesting how you dont mention your friends in LV, of whom you were going to "steal their targets" ---------------------------------------
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Aldari Verve
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2007.03.03 18:30:00 -
[116]
sum it up ...
we are uber pos this and pos that
lotsa pew pew pew but we are uber
*beats chest.... Man RAWR
the end
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Attak
Trioptimum FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 19:01:00 -
[117]
One of the most un-biased BoB posts I've seen tbh. Must be having a great time to have the respect to not to slander and demean the coalition in the middle of such an epic conflict. The lack of mention of your pets and the carnage about to roll in from the east is pretty telling, however.
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.03 19:08:00 -
[118]
Only thing I would like to add is my disappointment at BOB reaction to the recent events of dev misconduct in their alliance and the negative effect it has had on many thousands of players view of BOB alliance.
No statement of apology or admission of guilt, what do we get instead?
BOB cap ship fleets show up in game having renamed their entire fleet with the word (DEVS) in the front of every ship.
Thus exhibiting their total disregard and basically sticking two fingers up to every pilot in eve, except of course any who benefitted from the cheating i.e themselves.
You make me sick with that attitude and no matter what you do or did, every descent pilot of BOB should be ashamed to be a part of something so tainted.
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Crean NaVar
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.03 19:10:00 -
[119]
Informative post? No. One sided information bits, completely ignoring all facts that might cast a cloud over Bobs uberness.
It¦s propaganda, nothing more.
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Crean NaVar
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.03 19:10:00 -
[120]
Informative post? No. One sided information bits, completely ignoring all facts that might cast a cloud over Bobs uberness.
It¦s propaganda, nothing more.
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.03 19:17:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Weatherman
Originally by: Aphotic Raven
Originally by: Spike Spiegle Nice post...
Apparently BOB can handle this on there own as fix and the rest of BOB's allies have only assisted in ED-L9T.
Its nice to know that you guys pay rent to defend an "ally" that doesn't acknowledge your assistance 
Lots of mention to the fight and assistance that LV is giving to BOB also in throwing themselves to RAGOON and TCF as a "meat shield" 
It must be nice to know you are all appreciated?
To bobs allies (FIX Gunboat and DFC) Good fights so far ...
To bob wow you own titans you must be the best 
Tbh if your allys fought like FIX would you acknowledge them?
This is the bob show... no ones really trying to thrust straight through bob... but they cant be in 5 places at once.
I have never fought bob in a major battle before visiting fix at the start of the year and i wasnt all that impressed with DICE... fleet battles with the rest of bob in 9cg recently have changed my mind, very impressive indeed, not really a suprise that you're on top for fleet warfare with those kind of moves... although the titans kind of a spoiler...
A pretty good analysis by Molle here of how BoB has performed, given the odds they are still holding up well.
I think it's funny how one of IRON's most smacktastic members rarely brings more than an assault frig to fights. Forum warrior ftw.
I'm looking at a killmail of yours, a very recent one
You were flying a tristan, so by your own standards of smack v ships, what kind of moron does that make you ???
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.03 19:17:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Weatherman
Originally by: Aphotic Raven
Originally by: Spike Spiegle Nice post...
Apparently BOB can handle this on there own as fix and the rest of BOB's allies have only assisted in ED-L9T.
Its nice to know that you guys pay rent to defend an "ally" that doesn't acknowledge your assistance 
Lots of mention to the fight and assistance that LV is giving to BOB also in throwing themselves to RAGOON and TCF as a "meat shield" 
It must be nice to know you are all appreciated?
To bobs allies (FIX Gunboat and DFC) Good fights so far ...
To bob wow you own titans you must be the best 
Tbh if your allys fought like FIX would you acknowledge them?
This is the bob show... no ones really trying to thrust straight through bob... but they cant be in 5 places at once.
I have never fought bob in a major battle before visiting fix at the start of the year and i wasnt all that impressed with DICE... fleet battles with the rest of bob in 9cg recently have changed my mind, very impressive indeed, not really a suprise that you're on top for fleet warfare with those kind of moves... although the titans kind of a spoiler...
A pretty good analysis by Molle here of how BoB has performed, given the odds they are still holding up well.
I think it's funny how one of IRON's most smacktastic members rarely brings more than an assault frig to fights. Forum warrior ftw.
I'm looking at a killmail of yours, a very recent one
You were flying a tristan, so by your own standards of smack v ships, what kind of moron does that make you ???
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maihem
TBC Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 19:21:00 -
[123]
nice region, we'll take it... LOL personally i have more respect for BoBs pets who fight for their lives with no assistance or acknowledgement...except possibly LV who have recently changed their alliance ticker to [Ctrl Q]
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Fedaykin Naib
BURN EDEN GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.03 19:24:00 -
[124]
fofofofofofofofofo
that is all.
"Long Live the Fighters!"
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Logan Williams
Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 19:28:00 -
[125]
Originally by: SirMolle
Capitals
Killed - 17 Dreads, 1 Carrier, 1 Titan
That's not entirely accurate. I'll help ya out a bit
Killed - 17 Dreads, 1 Carrier, 1 <logged> Titan
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Mortuus
Minmatar Just-fun Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.03 19:33:00 -
[126]
Good going BoB.
And remember your history, you just need to push D2 and RZR enough that the old PA corps abandon ship again.
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scabbsssjr
Gallente M'8'S
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Posted - 2007.03.03 19:39:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Logan Williams Edited by: Logan Williams on 03/03/2007 19:25:44 slot reserved
Gotta do research on my previuous comment
This is the first time I have seen this on the eve-o forums
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Originally by: Ductoris At this rate I'm going to ask for a BOB sub-forum.
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Drunken Cajun
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.03.03 19:48:00 -
[128]
Hi guys what's going on in here?
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.03 19:50:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Only thing I would like to add is my disappointment at BOB reaction to the recent events of dev misconduct in their alliance and the negative effect it has had on many thousands of players view of BOB alliance.
No statement of apology or admission of guilt, what do we get instead?
BOB cap ship fleets show up in game having renamed their entire fleet with the word (DEVS) in the front of every ship.
Thus exhibiting their total disregard and basically sticking two fingers up to every pilot in eve, except of course any who benefitted from the cheating i.e themselves.
You make me sick with that attitude and no matter what you do or did, every descent pilot of BOB should be ashamed to be a part of something so tainted.
I am obviously no fan of BOB, but that topic has no place here.
SirMolle managed (probably under torture) to make a fairly respectful post, so it would be nice to acknowledge that and keep the thread clean from those sort of allegations etc.
If we smack him for being respectful..he will go back to being a potty mouth  You signature graphic must reflect your ingame persona as per The Forum rules - Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) |

Lireil Crow
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 19:53:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Lireil Crow on 03/03/2007 19:50:53 Edited by: Lireil Crow on 03/03/2007 19:50:28 SirMolle, why dont you drop the crap and tell the good people of eve what is relly happing.
Your Lines are falling. Your Toops are out of isk. Your Dev friends may still be helping you but not for lone, or they will lose there jobs. Your titans are going to be the first to be lost in a fight, because the way you use them. Your DD's arnt working anymore, you have to use both of them at the same time to even get any kills anymore. Your aliies are bracking. Your hiding in NPC startions in Delve. Your hiding when ever your caps or titans are ready to fight.
We are taking your station We are killing your pos's we are killing your allies (oh thanks for all the good loot, I enjoy killing you)
and most of all
We are killing you.
So why don't you stop all the BS and tell people how you are relly doing, you even as low as you have to fill your post up with your "wanna be, bob" allies.
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fugazii
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.03 20:02:00 -
[131]
cant believe im saying this but,...nice read.
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0raven0
Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.03.03 20:04:00 -
[132]
Edited by: 0raven0 on 03/03/2007 20:00:57
Originally by: Audri Fisher After this war is over, I am moving down here, Ore is fantastic, there is a complex every other system, and I have never seen so many 1 mil + rats in my life!
thats because bob/friends don't carebear, we only PvP.. In the mean time the belts get thick, and the rats get a chance for better ships and setup complexes :p ------
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Vensa Heckler
Clarf Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.03 20:07:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Lireil Crow Edited by: Lireil Crow on 03/03/2007 19:50:53 Edited by: Lireil Crow on 03/03/2007 19:50:28 SirMolle, why dont you drop the crap and tell the good people of eve what is relly happing.
Your Lines are falling. Your Toops are out of isk. Your Dev friends may still be helping you but not for lone, or they will lose there jobs. Your titans are going to be the first to be lost in a fight, because the way you use them. Your DD's arnt working anymore, you have to use both of them at the same time to even get any kills anymore. Your aliies are bracking. Your hiding in NPC startions in Delve. Your hiding when ever your caps or titans are ready to fight.
We are taking your station We are killing your pos's we are killing your allies (oh thanks for all the good loot, I enjoy killing you)
and most of all
We are killing you.
So why don't you stop all the BS and tell people how you are relly doing, you even as low as you have to fill your post up with your "wanna be, bob" allies.
think of the toops! won't somebody please think of the toops! :hysteric: -
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.03 20:07:00 -
[134]
Originally by: SirMolle Announcement
Just wait till LV are wiped clear. Then you'll have yourself an almighty fight!
Although the stats of BOB are good. You forget to mention your sides losses. However this is not such a post. Let's see what happens.
Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/ |

Maltere
Gallente Inversion Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.03 20:15:00 -
[135]
i only read page one, and then this one so forgive me if this has already been said. Nice read, very factual, although a lot missing. Why cant i see any stats on the LV front? after all, its part of this war.
Posting results on all the areas in which you have gained the upper hand and leaving out the ones where you havent doesnt wash with me, BoB have lost ground. LV was part of your coalition and you failed to defend it due to our coalition forcing you to return home. may as well hand your stations over now 
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tyrol
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.03 20:17:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Sorja Much less arrogance in this thread than in the past.
That sums it up, IMHO.
this man speaks the truth
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Xeliya
Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.03.03 20:17:00 -
[137]
Edited by: Xeliya on 03/03/2007 20:14:07
Originally by: Lireil Crow Edited by: Lireil Crow on 03/03/2007 19:50:53 Edited by: Lireil Crow on 03/03/2007 19:50:28 SirMolle, why dont you drop the crap and tell the good people of eve what is relly happing.
Your Lines are falling. Your Toops are out of isk. Your Dev friends may still be helping you but not for lone, or they will lose there jobs. Your titans are going to be the first to be lost in a fight, because the way you use them. Your DD's arnt working anymore, you have to use both of them at the same time to even get any kills anymore. Your aliies are bracking. Your hiding in NPC startions in Delve. Your hiding when ever your caps or titans are ready to fight.
We are taking your station We are killing your pos's we are killing your allies (oh thanks for all the good loot, I enjoy killing you)
and most of all
We are killing you.
So why don't you stop all the BS and tell people how you are relly doing, you even as low as you have to fill your post up with your "wanna be, bob" allies.
No offense but why are you talking when your only kill on the RAZOR KB is 2006-05-10 05:38:00 and the rest are losses . . . ----------
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Cervantes DeMuerte
Caldari The Legion. Requiem-Aeternam
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Posted - 2007.03.03 20:24:00 -
[138]
Seriously the whole "I cant see why BoB pets pay to help BoB who do not care yada yada yada" If you are attempting to help us "see the light" and turn sides just give it a rest. Yes some corporations/alliances living in BoB space pay rent to use someone elses space.
It gives us a place to call home, build ourselves up without having to defend for our lives elsewhere. We arent forced to fight but we do cause some of us like to pvp. BoB acknowledges our achievements by telling us. We dont need them to publically announce us to appease the "BoB are so terrible" mob. As what you guys think of the situation really doesnt matter.
This post was stating BoBs (the alliance) achievements thus far in the war. Not everyones achievements. If my alliance or any others felt it necessary to give our involvements we would, but considering the lynch mob these forums house what use is it? Everyone critisizes BoB for not mentioning the pets yet the coalition didnt feel it necessary to mention it was a "war against BoB and so and so and so and so" Its the war against BoB and pets thus the same acknowledgement from the otherside.
Most of the battles Ive been in have been top notch and very respectable from both sides. Very little smack from the fountain groups ie. D2 and Sparta (these two being the main engagements Ive been a part of) Its a shame not all of the other mobsters share the same maturity which I find funny considering their purpose is to destroy the alliance that is ruining this game. Irony at its best.
So from here on just concern yourselves with your own issues and stop worrying about us (very kind of you im sure) but seriously.
But a bit more on topic nice post Molle. Fairly accurate for what ive been a part of but again I dont know all facts.
____________________________ Cervantes DeMuerte - Forever In Death |

Weatherman
Gallente Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.03 20:26:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Luthien Firefoot I'm looking at a killmail of yours, a very recent one
You were flying a tristan, so by your own standards of smack v ships, what kind of moron does that make you ???
I think you're confusing loses with kills there buddy. There are no kms posted on the Iron or FIX killboards with me flying a tristan. However, that's not even the point. Since I wasn't smacking IRON, i was only trying to defend FIX from a particularly smacky pilot, so what ships I fly is irrelevant. Anyways, I'm done feeding the CAOD forum smack monkeys. See you in game.
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Ben Derindar
KelBen Productions
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Posted - 2007.03.03 20:41:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Xeliya
Originally by: Lireil Crow So why don't you stop all the BS and tell people how you are relly doing, you even as low as you have to fill your post up with your "wanna be, bob" allies.
No offense but why are you talking when your only kill on the RAZOR KB is 2006-05-10 05:38:00 in AZN while you were in ASCN and the rest are losses . . . Your also docked in OE-4HB which is as far away form the war as it gets.
The guy has something like 6 accounts.  
/Ben
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Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.03.03 20:47:00 -
[141]
Originally by: bulabuba Edited by: bulabuba on 03/03/2007 16:10:51
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain If Bob is being smacked around then why is the northern coalition unable to gain any ground?
Because it's not about the northerners gaining any ground. Here, let me help you out:
Originally by: SirMolle We recalled from our strike base in HLW-HP (Curse) on Feb. 15th to defend.
That's the most salient sentence in the whole post. That's what the northerners came to do, and they got it done. If BoB had not done that, you'd have seen it going the other way. There'd probably be slower progress, or maybe even a stalemate in the east, but the Northerners would be chewing up Fountain and Querious. Either way works.
This post can be summed up nicely as "we're holding our home ground". Unfortunately in this case, for BoB, that means they're doing just what their adversary wants them to do.
LOFFLETACO, dood, they're doing what we WANT them to, we WANT them to blow up our titan and dreads, obviously we're only distracting them because we're trying to seige stations and systems with billions in losses, gawd man, we wanted them to kill that stuff so that we could totally blob them from the East.
No one's goal in Eve is to lose dreads and titans, shove it. Saying the entire IRON,MM,Razor,Pure,D2,Tri force is just a distraction is an insult to them more than BoB. ------- Someone from MC peer-pressured me to smoke pot, now I'm cool. |

Liu Kaskakka
PAK
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Posted - 2007.03.03 21:28:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Lireil Crow Edited by: Lireil Crow on 03/03/2007 19:50:53 Edited by: Lireil Crow on 03/03/2007 19:50:28 SirMolle, why dont you drop the crap and tell the good people of eve what is relly happing.
Your Lines are falling. Your Toops are out of isk. Your Dev friends may still be helping you but not for lone, or they will lose there jobs. Your titans are going to be the first to be lost in a fight, because the way you use them. Your DD's arnt working anymore, you have to use both of them at the same time to even get any kills anymore. Your aliies are bracking. Your hiding in NPC startions in Delve. Your hiding when ever your caps or titans are ready to fight.
We are taking your station We are killing your pos's we are killing your allies (oh thanks for all the good loot, I enjoy killing you)
and most of all
We are killing you.
So why don't you stop all the BS and tell people how you are relly doing, you even as low as you have to fill your post up with your "wanna be, bob" allies.
Keep up this attitude and your beloved coalition will begin to crumble (the more intelligent pilots will get fed up with the urine your spewing).
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.03 21:45:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Amerame Looks like an LV announcement : "Look at my killboard" while being a punching ball.
If Bob is being smacked around then why is the northern coalition unable to gain any ground?
You said the exact same thing about LV just before they fell apart.
It takes time to wear down an opponent. Then they collapse. D2 are doing an awesome job and LV are being mopped up, then I look forward to dying to many BoB titan blasts while our allies take their space from them... or vice versa.
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.03 21:46:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Vasili Z LOFFLETACO, dood, they're doing what we WANT them to, we WANT them to blow up our titan and dreads, obviously we're only distracting them because we're trying to seige stations and systems with billions in losses, gawd man, we wanted them to kill that stuff so that we could totally blob them from the East.
No one's goal in Eve is to lose dreads and titans, shove it. Saying the entire IRON,MM,Razor,Pure,D2,Tri force is just a distraction is an insult to them more than BoB.
I think your assumption that D2 and allies planned or wanted to lose those ships is where your argument falls down.
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Zakalwe
Delta team Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.03 22:01:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Amerame Looks like an LV announcement : "Look at my killboard" while being a punching ball.
"No more Feudalism in Eve" you said, right ?
You've convinced Red Alliance ?
  
Hmmm... not in the name of my Corp/Alliance
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Liquid Vision
Caldari Liquid Research
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Posted - 2007.03.03 22:12:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
Originally by: Lireil Crow Edited by: Lireil Crow on 03/03/2007 19:50:53 Edited by: Lireil Crow on 03/03/2007 19:50:28 SirMolle, why dont you drop the crap and tell the good people of eve what is relly happing.
Your Lines are falling. Your Toops are out of isk. Your Dev friends may still be helping you but not for lone, or they will lose there jobs. Your titans are going to be the first to be lost in a fight, because the way you use them. Your DD's arnt working anymore, you have to use both of them at the same time to even get any kills anymore. Your aliies are bracking. Your hiding in NPC startions in Delve. Your hiding when ever your caps or titans are ready to fight.
We are taking your station We are killing your pos's we are killing your allies (oh thanks for all the good loot, I enjoy killing you)
and most of all
We are killing you.
So why don't you stop all the BS and tell people how you are relly doing, you even as low as you have to fill your post up with your "wanna be, bob" allies.
Keep up this attitude and your beloved coalition will begin to crumble (the more intelligent pilots will get fed up with the urine your spewing).
Since when were there intelligent pilots in the Coalition? All I see is folks looking to have some fun while putting an end to the most corrupt regime in EVE history. They're a means to an end and past that, who really cares how they get it done as long as they aren't using devs to do it. Of course, them getting all of BOB's space isn't a bad consolation prize for hopefully helping to stop dev involvement inside major alliances.  Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
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Vyndicator
Amarr 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.03 22:33:00 -
[147]
Edited by: Vyndicator on 03/03/2007 22:30:12
Originally by: Blitz'Krieg Edited by: Blitz''Krieg on 03/03/2007 13:34:34 Say what you like about BoB but I think its pretty evident if it was a straight fight gainst D2 they'd kick ass. Tbh i think once the swarm is brought to the table fully tho you guys are in trouble.
Props for a good report, and even tho i cant play atm i still read these forums more than i read the paper .. sad but true.
p.s. first page in an epic thread \o/ woot!
lmao 
Nice summary SirMolle of the things that have happened so far, it's good to get an accurate posting of things that have happened.
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Noreen
Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2007.03.03 22:45:00 -
[148]
I'm gonna tell you, what they dont want you to know... But you deserve to know...
This is a tale of a BoB NYX class mothership in Molden Heath, The Mothership that today no longer roams there, the pilot that no longer has a job, or the ability to do what he did just 2 weeks ago in Molden Heath region which left everyone baffled. Thank you Kieron and CCP Internal Affairs for working so quickly to take note of the situation, I just wish the IA was there 2 months ago in Feythabolis. (NOTE: We know the identity of other CCP employees that plays the game and even though in-game they may be our mortal enemy, they choose to play the game honestly, outing their identity puts their character(s) in jeopardy according to CCP regulations which we think is a whack without a reason to do for us, but know this, we are watching you closely, dont slip).
Speaking of Feythabolis, the molle left out the fact that it has abondaned a region because they are now collateral damage, if you pay BoB isk today to live, ever wonder how longer before you are collateral?
LV has been laballed a lost cause and FIX is now the next meatshield to save and its not looking good, a balanced pictures of forces is whats been painted and the southern coalition has yet to enter into the equation.
Lets look at BoB's side
Fatal Alliance - FATAL (currently in trouble in drone space) ò Southern Cross Alliance - SCA (Feyth region former Tribal Souls) ò Miners With Attitude - MWA (Estoria) ò Cult of War - -COW- (run around Molden Heath) ò Interdiction - SPYDR (who are they?????) ò Southern Connection - SOCO (78 member alliance????? miners) ò Red Moon Federation - RMF (EX-ASCN) ò Requiem Aeternam - R.M.A. (139 members) ò Executive Outcomes - .EXE (gankers turned pos fuelers, dont like it anymore) ò Gods of night and day - GONAD (miners) ò Dark and Light - -DNL- (miners) ò Mercenary Coalition - MCCA officially contracted by BoB ò Interstellar Starbase Syndicate - ISS withdrawn from the war (why is this name here?) ò Xelas Alliance - XS (yeah the supreme figthers *shiver*) ò KIA Alliance - KIA on contract by BoB (when you cant afford a Honda, you buy this:()
A little advice, dont get too comfortable fighting in the north, that is only the appetizer.
Noreen CLS DIPLOMAT
P.S Thanks for telling us your total strength, we had over estimated it.
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NereSky
Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.03 22:50:00 -
[149]
o.0
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JackOfHearts
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.03 22:50:00 -
[150]
Great read, best of luck to both sides!
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Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.03.03 23:05:00 -
[151]
Good read!
Cheers, Lowa
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Dragerest
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.03 23:07:00 -
[152]
we are not going to hear a Recruitment thread in a couple weeks are we?
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Detaitiv
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.03 23:09:00 -
[153]
Quote: are you that bitter that you cannot think straight?
Thol man, If you get a chance can you get me some drones in delve? I keep having to run away and leave mine behind. I don't think I've felt bitter for like 3 years, and I don't think you were BoB back then. You guys are just the big boys to take down, just like when you were CA. Don't you atuk guys love me anymore?
Seriously, don't you remember the whole Omega Corp (supr?) road trip to fountain oh so long ago? This just reminds me of our arrogance back then. In order to bluster on the boards we didn't do our diligence in digging how much you guys might've been hurting NORAD or our other meat shields at the time. We just reveled in you smashing against the blob that was FA and getting bloodied. Yeah, the game has changed a wee bit since then. Why does this game make me feel senile sometimes? Why can't i fit two mwds on my intie anymore?
Besides, you shouldn't waste your time posting in response to a dinosaur like me. That Reborn guy has much better points than I do.
You don't happen to know what "step 3 complete" means do you? Some people in BoB and Co. keep telling me that and I know it has something to do with Fall of 04, but I really should have taken better notes.
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Detaitiv
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.03 23:15:00 -
[154]
Oh man, that was a really long post for me. I must be in a better mood than I thought.
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Mahrin Skel
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.03 23:19:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Noreen FIX is now the next meatshield to save and its not looking good,
I'm sorry, but can I have some of what you're smoking? After a month, the Southwest is almost back to the status quo ante bellum, with all coalition POS removed from everywhere in Q and Fountain except for a few in 9CG, all in reinforced and scheduled to die. The ED- assault was stopped cold before BoB even showed on the scene, and has now been completely wiped from the board. You exchanged a bunch of dreadnoughts for a few of our carriers and there's now nothing to show for it.
Oh, and KIA isn't working for BoB. They're working for us.
--Dave
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NereSky
Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.03 23:24:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Mahrin Skel
Originally by: Noreen FIX is now the next meatshield to save and its not looking good,
I'm sorry, but can I have some of what you're smoking? After a month, the Southwest is almost back to the status quo ante bellum, with all coalition POS removed from everywhere in Q and Fountain except for a few in 9CG, all in reinforced and scheduled to die. The ED- assault was stopped cold before BoB even showed on the scene, and has now been completely wiped from the board. You exchanged a bunch of dreadnoughts for a few of our carriers and there's now nothing to show for it.
Oh, and KIA isn't working for BoB. They're working for us.
--Dave
Dont remember seeing any fix take down a pos in Ed , must be my age then tbh when i saw with my own eyes 8 BoB Dreads seiging a pos on planet 9 moon 8.
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Dragerest
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.03 23:31:00 -
[157]
Fix bob mc there all the same anyway
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NereSky
Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.03 23:43:00 -
[158]
Edited by: NereSky on 03/03/2007 23:42:18
Originally by: Mahrin Skel
Originally by: NereSky Dont remember seeing any fix take down a pos in Ed , must be my age then tbh when i saw with my own eyes 8 BoB Dreads seiging a pos on planet 9 moon 8.
Then I suggest you have your eyes checked (there are only 2 moons on ED- planet 9). You must be talking about 9CG, where several POS were being taken down at once.
--Dave
well its easy to get confused i suppose because after reading this from the op; (oh and it was p9 m2 :))
BoB shifted once again, and focused on Querious. The siege of ED was stopped when six Dreadnaughts were caught in the open. The two enemy POS were shoved into reinforced more. D2 regrouped its forces at this time and made a large push towards Y-2ANO to save the last POS. Using the same tactic, we engaged in the second Dreadnaught fleet battle of the day. The system spiked to 250 pilots and stayed there for the majority of the fight. One by one, nine Dreadnaughts were destroyed for zero lost. The D2 fleet warped onto the grid, but did not engage. Fighting against time, the last ship was destroyed as a large goon gang jumped in. System spiked to 450, but soon fell as the Ragnarok took out 118 at a gate. It was the most destructive 48 hours of the entire war.
After placing the newly errected D2 towers into reinforced mode, the BoB capital fleet shifted back to Querious once again. The coalition lost its grasp on ED-L9T and began anchoring towers in 9CG6. Some were interdicted and destroyed before being onlined. Once again, D2 mare a push towards Y-2ANO where they unveiled a second Erebus that successfully delayed our counterattack. Their dreadnaughts then managed to escape. In an unexpected move, D2 pulled an alarm-clock op and logged 24 dreadnaughts onto their weakest timezone and finished off three of the Y-2ANO POS they had reinforced earlier. This was the most lost by BoB in any single op to date, and once again threatened the sovereignty of the system. The response was simple: Everything.
then reading your post uts a tad conflicting , well hey ho must be my age then 
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matty01
Killson Corp Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.03 23:46:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Noreen I'm gonna tell you, what they dont want you to know... But you deserve to know...
This is a tale of a BoB NYX class mothership in Molden Heath, The Mothership that today no longer roams there, the pilot that no longer has a job, or the ability to do what he did just 2 weeks ago in Molden Heath region which left everyone baffled. Thank you Kieron and CCP Internal Affairs for working so quickly to take note of the situation, I just wish the IA was there 2 months ago in Feythabolis.
??????????????? __________________________
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Karina Harington
Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.03 23:50:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Mahrin Skel The ED- assault was stopped cold before BoB even showed on the scene
That's a lie. You were completely powerless until BoB showed up in ED-.
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Rebellion
Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.03 23:51:00 -
[161]
Edited by: Rebellion on 03/03/2007 23:47:53 (Sung to the tune of Pop, from NSYNC. Get it, you'll like it.
Start with "unst unst unst unst... mmch mmch mmch mmch....")
Sick and tired of hearing all these people post about.. "What's the deal with this BoB life and when is it gonna fade out?" The thing you got to realize, what we're doing is not a trend We got the gift of war, we gonna bring it 'til the end
(come on)
It doesn't matter, 'bout the ship I fly or what I plug in my head All that matters, is that you recognize that its just about respect It doesn't matter, about the alts I have and where I work and why All that matters, is that you get hyped cuz we'll do it to you every time (come on now)
Do you ever wonder why, this game gets you high? It takes you on a ride, feel it when your body starts to rock (your body starts to rock!) Baby you cant stop (you can't stop!), and the pvp is all you got, come on now. This must be, BoB!
Dirty BoB, that you can't stop! I know you like this dirrrty-BoB This must be...
Now, why you wanna try to classify the type of thing we do? Cause we're just fine doin what we like; can we say the same for you? Tired of feelin all around me jea-lou-sy Just worry about ISK cause I'ma get mine; people can't you see!
It doesn't matter, 'bout the BPOs I have or the outposts that I errect All that matters, is that you recognize that its just about respect (oh) It doesn't matter, about the clones I have or where I jump and why All that matters, is that you get hyped cuz we'll give it to you every time (come on)
Do you ever wonder why (why?), this game gets you high? (EVE gets you high!) It takes you on a ride, feel it when your body starts to rock (your body starts to rock) Baby you can't stop (you can't stop), and the pvp is all you got, baby come on This must be, BoB!
Ooooooooooooohh...man I'm tired of singing.
<starts beatboxing at The Mittani>
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Daald
Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.03.03 23:54:00 -
[162]
Nsync?
Your alliance deserves to die for the travesty alone!
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Rebellion
Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.03 23:57:00 -
[163]
Bring it...
Or else we'll do Backstreet Boys too.
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travelingsales
Ars ex Discordia Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.04 00:04:00 -
[164]
Rebellion that was an act of sheer genius right there!
/me eagerly awaits backstreet boys cover, hopes it's one of the songs from "Millenium"
(Also, I didn't read most of the thread but I thought that was a pretty good war update in the OP)
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Daald
Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.03.04 00:05:00 -
[165]
Backstreet boys.... Now you have won the war as everyone with a music sense just committed suicide.
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Hehulk
Black Sea Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.04 00:07:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Noreen ò Interstellar Starbase Syndicate - ISS withdrawn from the war (why is this name here?)
Because they fought like dogs in C3- against IAC, goons, TCF and KOS? And don't take my word for it, go ask KOS. ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it |

Friday Dillinja
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.03.04 00:36:00 -
[167]
Molle trying to sound civil all of a sudden? Somehow i get the feeling this wouldn't be the case if the war was going as planned. 
Also, hi shin and hir0! ------------------------------------ retired. niwaie of Xanadu |

SonicCJK
Golden Fury Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.04 00:41:00 -
[168]
LV have fallen(such as in lack of Fleet engagement as i see far as i see) with several corps leaving and ofc Molle being civil here. Ofc no point arguing bck and forth on stats of kills board. The plan molle set have backfired and i sure molle have backup plan(if there one).
I guess it all do with time that BOB have before southern coalition reach BOB/pets Space. We even overrun all of LV space and reach RISE in RIT. "Bruminor III > LV fleet = 5 bil, 1 doomsday device ignition = 20 mil, chowdown DDing his fleet = priceless" |

Iva Soreass
FireStar Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.04 00:46:00 -
[169]
Nice, wp guys keep it up \o/ ----------------------------------------------- My sig got nerf'd again :*( this time by Valorem.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.04 00:47:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Daald Nsync?
Your alliance deserves to die for the travesty alone!
QFT 
quoting "pop" lyrics to defend your war efforts is not good...really...not good mate 
CCP nerfed my sig..but this one has my name in it
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Menf
Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A
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Posted - 2007.03.04 00:50:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Friday Dillinja Molle trying to sound civil all of a sudden? Somehow i get the feeling this wouldn't be the case if the war was going as planned. 
Also, hi shin and hir0!
dont think so.
i think as long he sounds emotional something went wrong and he tryd to pretent everything is fine. but if he post without emotions i think everything works well.
atm it seems like D2 cant keep up the presure on BoB. if the coalition dosent hurry up and attack BoB in the south D2 need to leave the nothern front.
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Some players allready noticed.. "If you SEE me, its allready too late..." |

Mahrin Skel
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.04 00:53:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Karina Harington That's a lie. You were completely powerless until BoB showed up in ED-.
Outnumbered, yes. Powerless? No, or you would have killed more than 4 POS in that week, and we wouldn't have gotten our own back up on two of those moons before you could capitalize on the gap. Could we have held out without BoB having come to support us? Of course not, we were outnumbered 5 to 1. But you certainly weren't having the walkover you expected with those numbers.
--Dave
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Brunswick2
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.04 00:57:00 -
[173]
No tendrils?
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Friday Dillinja
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.03.04 00:58:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Menf
Originally by: Friday Dillinja Molle trying to sound civil all of a sudden? Somehow i get the feeling this wouldn't be the case if the war was going as planned. 
Also, hi shin and hir0!
dont think so.
i think as long he sounds emotional something went wrong and he tryd to pretent everything is fine.
Emotional? Molle? In public?

------------------------------------ retired. niwaie of Xanadu |

Dawn Princess
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.04 01:16:00 -
[175]
*shrugs* bob is good at eve.
no great surprises there, just now a lot of the reasons behind that success are known it sure takes the sheen of them, no?
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Karina Harington
Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.04 01:35:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Mahrin Skel
Originally by: Karina Harington That's a lie. You were completely powerless until BoB showed up in ED-.
Outnumbered, yes. Powerless? No, or you would have killed more than 4 POS in that week, and we wouldn't have gotten our own back up on two of those moons before you could capitalize on the gap. Could we have held out without BoB having come to support us? Of course not, we were outnumbered 5 to 1. But you certainly weren't having the walkover you expected with those numbers.
That's slowed down, not stopped cold.
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Arokan Manturi
Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.04 01:45:00 -
[177]
As always a good read...
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Enthes goldhart
Gallente Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2007.03.04 01:49:00 -
[178]
Nice post molle much more info much less smack. 
Originally by: Thoric Frosthammer
exposing our feythabolis flank to almost completely unopposed raids by RAGoon and allies, who annihilate our RISE pets at will, more or less, and have already placed pos's in key systems there, including the RIT triangle"
wtf? erm im not sure if u have noticed but if u are in RIT u are sitting in space evry other day as RISE destroys your small POS then next day after downtime a few people log on cyno in a carrior and put up another small POS, then RISE kills it AGAIN.
as for fleet fights there have been a few good ones and some slaughters but i cant think of one that we have lost.
only people who have a right to brag about killing RISE in feyth is Burn Eden, hats off to your gank squads u are very good at what they do 
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papaPadla
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.04 02:35:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Thus exhibiting their total disregard and basically sticking two fingers up to every pilot in eve, except of course any who benefitted from the cheating i.e themselves.
I resent that... im only showing one finger. -------------------------------------
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.04 03:10:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Enthes goldhart
only people who have a right to brag about killing RISE in feyth is Burn Eden, hats off to your gank squads u are very good at what they do 
Hey what about IAC ! 
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.03.04 03:36:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: Enthes goldhart
only people who have a right to brag about killing RISE in feyth is Burn Eden, hats off to your gank squads u are very good at what they do 
Hey what about IAC ! 
Do you need bragging rights? 
Good girls go to Heaven. Bad girls get drunk and pew pew in Delve. |

Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.03.04 03:40:00 -
[182]
Originally by: papaPadla
Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Thus exhibiting their total disregard and basically sticking two fingers up to every pilot in eve, except of course any who benefitted from the cheating i.e themselves.
I resent that... im only showing one finger.
Thumbs up! ------- Someone from MC peer-pressured me to smoke pot, now I'm cool. |

hangnoose
Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.04 03:45:00 -
[183]
Nice accurate post give or take a pos or two... but as you said the war is just beginning =)
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farsycal
Paralex Research
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Posted - 2007.03.04 04:00:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Only thing I would like to add is my disappointment at BOB reaction to the recent events of dev misconduct in their alliance and the negative effect it has had on many thousands of players view of BOB alliance.
No statement of apology or admission of guilt, what do we get instead?
BOB cap ship fleets show up in game having renamed their entire fleet with the word (DEVS) in the front of every ship.
Thus exhibiting their total disregard and basically sticking two fingers up to every pilot in eve, except of course any who benefitted from the cheating i.e themselves.
You make me sick with that attitude and no matter what you do or did, every descent pilot of BOB should be ashamed to be a part of something so tainted.
are you gonna go on about this forever? move on.
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farsycal
Paralex Research
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Posted - 2007.03.04 04:04:00 -
[185]
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Amerame Looks like an LV announcement : "Look at my killboard" while being a punching ball.
If Bob is being smacked around then why is the northern coalition unable to gain any ground?
You said the exact same thing about LV just before they fell apart.
It takes time to wear down an opponent. Then they collapse. D2 are doing an awesome job and LV are being mopped up, then I look forward to dying to many BoB titan blasts while our allies take their space from them... or vice versa.
you are the expert on that though? oh yes sorry you are
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Rebellion
Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.04 04:06:00 -
[186]
You cannot be ninja in CAOD without a corp, Art Dillininja. But I shall break silence to say "o_O" at your unexpected appearance. It is futile to try and read into what Molle says or doesn't say because he is not saying anything, you should know how it works by now. Furthermore, identities of people who have always been in EVE but have never been in EVE should not be talked about, just as pants that walk with no one wearing them. :P
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papaPadla
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.04 04:40:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: papaPadla
Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Thus exhibiting their total disregard and basically sticking two fingers up to every pilot in eve, except of course any who benefitted from the cheating i.e themselves.
I resent that... im only showing one finger.
Thumbs up!
No... i ment the other one  -------------------------------------
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Skrypt
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.04 04:51:00 -
[188]
Perhaps I missed something but LV certainly isn't out of this. Our stations? Perhaps. But stations don't kill dreads. :) ----------
"I know. I know you can fight. But it's our wits that make us men." ~ Malcolm Wallace (Braveheart) |

Marko Zhang
Destructive Flatulence
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Posted - 2007.03.04 04:52:00 -
[189]
Edited by: Marko Zhang on 04/03/2007 04:51:14
Originally by: 0raven0 bob/friends don't carebear, we only PvP.. In the mean time the belts get thick, and the rats get a chance for better ships and setup complexes :p
Right. BoB didn't have to mine at all for those Titans. They just snapped their fingers and they appeared out of thin air. Actually, that's probably precisely what happened. 
--- Why is DigitalCommunist so interested in other players' IP addresses? |

Kheo Sen
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.04 05:27:00 -
[190]
To the left, to the left <-- To the right, to the right -->
Try some other axis as well. .......
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Jonathan Peterbilt
Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.03.04 06:10:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Spike Spiegle Its nice to know that you guys pay rent to defend an "ally" that doesn't acknowledge your assistance 
What makes you think fix and other bob allies care about such petty things? Everyone knows their place and the place of other alliances in Bob space, they can easily who fights and who doesn't and the appreciation where it matters. Whether or not it gets a mention on the whorums doesn't change anything. 
He is just trying to recruit more for the bandwagon....
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Dragerest
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.04 06:18:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Marko Zhang Edited by: Marko Zhang on 04/03/2007 04:51:14
Originally by: 0raven0 bob/friends don't carebear, we only PvP.. In the mean time the belts get thick, and the rats get a chance for better ships and setup complexes :p
Right. BoB didn't have to mine at all for those Titans. They just snapped their fingers and they appeared out of thin air. Actually, that's probably precisely what happened. 
 sounds about right.
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Lorth
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.04 06:47:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Only thing I would like to add is my disappointment at BOB reaction to the recent events of dev misconduct in their alliance and the negative effect it has had on many thousands of players view of BOB alliance.
No statement of apology or admission of guilt, what do we get instead?
BOB cap ship fleets show up in game having renamed their entire fleet with the word (DEVS) in the front of every ship.
Thus exhibiting their total disregard and basically sticking two fingers up to every pilot in eve, except of course any who benefitted from the cheating i.e themselves.
You make me sick with that attitude and no matter what you do or did, every descent pilot of BOB should be ashamed to be a part of something so tainted.
You know in order to paint any pilot in BOB as being a cheater, your going to have to convince me that they knew who T20 was, and that the BPO's were fake. The conversation would have had to have gone like this.
"Hi, I'm a dev, and I spawned these BPO's for my self, now I'm giving them to you"
While I'm willing to believe that anything is possible, that idea borders on the insane. I know when writing this by and large its going to fall on deaf ears, but I can't imagine any right thinking person coming to the conclusion that BOB directors knew the BPO's were fake, which is the only reasonable way to brand them as they have been.
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Mahrin Skel
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.04 06:49:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Karina Harington That's slowed down, not stopped cold.
Okay, the combined forces of IRON, RAZOR, FLA, PURE, AAA, plus others, hit ED- with the full intention of taking it, and in over a week of operations took down 4 POS and put up 2, while engaged against only FIX, one could call that "glacial" progress considering the attempt at mustering overwhelming force.
Let's not pick nits, my point was that calling us a "meatshield" alliance on the verge of collapse is just untrue as well as insulting. We've been through worse, keep it up for another 3 months and we'll see.
--Dave |

Kirex
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.04 06:59:00 -
[195]
did you invlude your nyx BPO in the stat5s? ;p
Click above for my killboard stats. |

RedSwarm Three
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Posted - 2007.03.04 07:01:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Skrypt Perhaps I missed something but LV certainly isn't out of this. Our stations? Perhaps. But stations don't kill dreads. :)
Here I'll go ahead and just unite past and present LV arguments concerning the war.
1) Goonies you may have numbers but you've never sieged our POS 
2) Goonies you may have sieged our POS but you've never taken a single station 
3) Goonies you may have a station but we have 2 Titans more 
4) Goonies you may have half our stations but we have 1 Titan 
5) Goonies you now have all the stations so you have to fuel them and that makes you weak see you in Stain 
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SSgt Sniper
Gallente In Excess Enterprises Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.04 07:18:00 -
[197]
Originally by: SirMolle On the following Tuesday, BoB held its own alarm-clock op and managed to assemble 38 Dreadnaughts during the weakest timezone to finish the job. Not knowing of this in advance, Sparta attempted to online another 4 towers to complement their existing 6 in G95F-H. Those were quickly interdicted and destroyed or reinforced before being set up. On the following two days, BoB found itself sieging YZ-LQL under a token force of 20-40 D2 pilots. Currently, no hostile towers remain in any conquerable station system in Fountain. D2 responded to the two destroyed POS in YZ-LQL by placing another. This was quickly reinforced and destroyed with BoB POS being placed in their stead, catching those that logged off. D2 responded a second time, by anchoring a fourth tower on Thursday March 1st to replace the third which was lost. It was reinforced, but on the same day RAZOR gained sovereignty in 9CG6 and the decision was made to let the Serpentis deal with it. On Friday March 2nd, a combined force of BoB, FIX and MC lay siege to all six hostile POS with overwhelming force.
Because they have been overloaded with stront, they will be offline and RAZOR will lose the system in any scenario. Result: no threats to sovereignty anywhere in BoB space. On the same day, D2 was seen moving freighters filled with POS supplies into Fountain from empire. So, the war is far from over. These are the stats of BoB in Month 1 for your consumption:
Capitals
Lost - 1 Dread, 2 Carriers
Killed - 17 Dreads, 1 Carrier, 1 Titan
Structures
Fountain
Y-2ANO: 12 Large | 5 Large G95F-H: 9 Large | 1 large 7BX-6F: 5 Large | 4 Large, 1 Medium YZ-LQL: 3 Large | 0 | 1 Reinforced
Querious
ED-L9T: 2 Large | 0 9CG6-H: 4 Large | 2 Large | 6 Reinforced
We eagerly await your next attempt.
Forgetting the large tower DICE tried to drop in G95 and we blew it before it was online? Or did they not tell you about it.
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SSgt Sniper
Gallente In Excess Enterprises Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.04 07:20:00 -
[198]
Originally by: R0ot
Originally by: Will Fireblade You are forgetting 1 freighter with a nyx Bpo
Can i please ascertain where all you people are getting your bpo/bpc killmail scanners, as id really like to pick one of those up, you guys don't know if it was a bpo or a bpc so stop trying to state something that isnt known as a fact.
Also nice post Molle, Evil still rains! 
The pilot in question's new role tells the tale: I lost a Nyx BPO and I still own you |

Athelas Loraiel
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2007.03.04 07:29:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Only thing I would like to add is my disappointment at BOB reaction to the recent events of dev misconduct in their alliance and the negative effect it has had on many thousands of players view of BOB alliance.
No statement of apology or admission of guilt, what do we get instead?
BOB cap ship fleets show up in game having renamed their entire fleet with the word (DEVS) in the front of every ship.
Thus exhibiting their total disregard and basically sticking two fingers up to every pilot in eve, except of course any who benefitted from the cheating i.e themselves.
You make me sick with that attitude and no matter what you do or did, every descent pilot of BOB should be ashamed to be a part of something so tainted.
You know in order to paint any pilot in BOB as being a cheater, your going to have to convince me that they knew who T20 was, and that the BPO's were fake. The conversation would have had to have gone like this.
"Hi, I'm a dev, and I spawned these BPO's for my self, now I'm giving them to you"
While I'm willing to believe that anything is possible, that idea borders on the insane. I know when writing this by and large its going to fall on deaf ears, but I can't imagine any right thinking person coming to the conclusion that BOB directors knew the BPO's were fake, which is the only reasonable way to brand them as they have been.
Oh, yes, and that guy who moved that MS claoked around and got fired by CCP wasn't in bob also, right? -------------- Please do not use your signature to troll. -Elmo Pug ([email protected]) |

Brunswick2
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.04 07:30:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Skrypt Perhaps I missed something but LV certainly isn't out of this. Our stations? Perhaps. But stations don't kill dreads. :)
Neither does LV...
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.04 07:40:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Lorth You know in order to paint any pilot in BOB as being a cheater, your going to have to convince me that they knew who T20 was, and that the BPO's were fake. The conversation would have had to have gone like this.
"Hi, I'm a dev, and I spawned these BPO's for my self, now I'm giving them to you"
While I'm willing to believe that anything is possible, that idea borders on the insane. I know when writing this by and large its going to fall on deaf ears, but I can't imagine any right thinking person coming to the conclusion that BOB directors knew the BPO's were fake, which is the only reasonable way to brand them as they have been.
You know in order to paint yourself as a human being, your going to have to convince me that you actually exist, and that the you're not just a college AI project by a slightly less intelligent college student. The conversation would have had to have gone like this.
"Hi, I'm really open minded and the fact that there is more than enough circumstantial evidence to at least arouse suspicion that would be against my programming"
While I'm willing to believe that anything is possible, that idea borders on the insane. I know when writing this by and large its going to fall on deaf ears, but I can't imagine any right thinking person coming to the conclusion that there is any possibility I'm not a broken propaganda record that wont keep looping over and over.
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.04 07:43:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Skrypt Perhaps I missed something but LV certainly isn't out of this. Our stations? Perhaps. But stations don't kill dreads. :)
450 man fleets down to 70 or so people max and losing stations almost every day. I'd say this is over.
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The Jok3r
Hookers From Mars
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Posted - 2007.03.04 07:54:00 -
[203]
Hi SUAS back when I fist heard of you your fame came for being the only FC in[5] to loose a fleet fight against FE. I bet the goons don't second guess your leadership desicions despite how retarded they might seem. But with skillpoints come experience and knoledge and soon the will be saying this guy is retarded just like FE did. "Dont speak english... Ctrl Q Ctrl Q " |

Lorth
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.04 08:02:00 -
[204]
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: Lorth You know in order to paint any pilot in BOB as being a cheater, your going to have to convince me that they knew who T20 was, and that the BPO's were fake. The conversation would have had to have gone like this.
"Hi, I'm a dev, and I spawned these BPO's for my self, now I'm giving them to you"
While I'm willing to believe that anything is possible, that idea borders on the insane. I know when writing this by and large its going to fall on deaf ears, but I can't imagine any right thinking person coming to the conclusion that BOB directors knew the BPO's were fake, which is the only reasonable way to brand them as they have been.
You know in order to paint yourself as a human being, your going to have to convince me that you actually exist, and that the you're not just a college AI project by a slightly less intelligent college student. The conversation would have had to have gone like this.
"Hi, I'm really open minded and the fact that there is more than enough circumstantial evidence to at least arouse suspicion that would be against my programming"
While I'm willing to believe that anything is possible, that idea borders on the insane. I know when writing this by and large its going to fall on deaf ears, but I can't imagine any right thinking person coming to the conclusion that there is any possibility I'm not a broken propaganda record that wont keep looping over and over.
Just WTF are you on about?
The paranoa and mob mentality of these forums these days is rather frightning, and your silly word play is frankly a fairly good example of that.
Lets all believe what we want to, regardless of any other possible explaination.
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Gods Coldblood
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Posted - 2007.03.04 08:07:00 -
[205]
I have to say this thread has some decent and honest information in it, good job too all.. Its good too see bob doing really well at this point in time and should be really interesting to see what happens next!! LV situation doesnÆt look good at this point in time.. On the up side the core of LV is still very much alive and strength is still there waiting for the right moments too bounce back!! I take my hat off too some of the opposed alliances for their pos warfare display (RA), but the numbers have been to great for any one alliance to deal with.. The current situation could well help LV as now its time to think about fighting together :p ..
Looking forward to some more action and see you all on the battlefield..
Who do you really want to win???
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Gods Coldblood
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Posted - 2007.03.04 08:09:00 -
[206]
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: Skrypt Perhaps I missed something but LV certainly isn't out of this. Our stations? Perhaps. But stations don't kill dreads. :)
450 man fleets down to 70 or so people max and losing stations almost every day. I'd say this is over.
Use ur brains instead of ur eyes
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Entilzah Valen
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.04 08:09:00 -
[207]
Shut the **** up about the Nyx BPO.
FFS. "Nyx BPO! Nyx BPO!"
If I had 17 Billion to replace the Nyx BPO, guess what, all I have to do is go to the proper place, spend the 17 Billion and I INSTANTLY have the BPO back.
However, your Dreads will take much longer to replace.
Just wanted to assist you all in pulling your heads out of your asses for a few moments so that you see the light of day and stop playing the "Nyx" card.
It's crap like this that makes me doubt the ability of the northern bloc to actually be successful in the long term, the failure to stay in touch with the reality of circumstance.
Flame away!
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Kusotarre
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.04 08:09:00 -
[208]
Wow, I'm late to this one.
It's a silly post, really, and anyone with an eye to strategy (as in, not tactics), knows that this war hasn't started yet. That we've so far managed to temporarily take stations or even just sovereignty is kind of nice when facing just BoB, nevermind MC and all BoB's pets. No one doubts that BoB and MC are PVP powerhouses on a scale that no (or very few) other single entities are. The entire goal of these ops was to remove BoB not from BoB space, but from LV space.
Sir Molle knows this. He knows what the Northern Coalitions game plan has been since before day one. He has spies, and lots of them.
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Lireil Crow
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.04 08:11:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Xeliya Edited by: Xeliya on 03/03/2007 20:31:41 No offense but why are you talking when your only kill on the RAZOR KB is 2006-05-10 05:38:00 in AZN while you were in ASCN and the rest are losses . . . Your also docked in OE-4HB which is as far away form the war as it gets.
Why are you talking, anyone knows me I run 5 accounts, this one is covert spec toon, your never find her name on a kill main, try looking at my pvp toon. So I say why are you talking?
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.04 08:19:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Rebellion Sung to the tune of Pop, from NSYNC. Get it, you'll like it.
I read nync and thought: 'Wtf. The guy from RA ?' ... But I can explain it, I just got out of bed.  ___________ Muuuhhh !!! |
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Entilzah Valen
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.04 08:36:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Lireil Crow Your Lines are falling. Your Toops are out of isk. Your Dev friends may still be helping you but not for lone, or they will lose there jobs. Your titans are going to be the first to be lost in a fight, because the way you use them. Your DD's arnt working anymore, you have to use both of them at the same time to even get any kills anymore. Your aliies are bracking. Your hiding in NPC startions in Delve. Your hiding when ever your caps or titans are ready to fight.
I lol'ed.
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.04 08:39:00 -
[212]
Edited by: KIATolon on 04/03/2007 08:37:20
Originally by: The Jok3r Hi SUAS back when I fist heard of you your fame came for being the only FC in[5] to loose a fleet fight against FE. I bet the goons don't second guess your leadership desicions despite how retarded they might seem. But with skillpoints come experience and knoledge and soon the will be saying this guy is retarded just like FE did.
The five lost quite a few fleet battles against FE, but whatever. If I get kicked out of GS I can make an alt and smack them on the forums. Oh no, I post my knoledge with my main.
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arjun
Die Apokalyptischen Reiter Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.04 08:40:00 -
[213]
Edited by: arjun on 04/03/2007 08:41:35 think if your posts make your own side look ridiculous here please. yes you too lyrell
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.03.04 08:49:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Gods Coldblood I have to say this thread has some decent and honest information in it, good job too all.. Its good too see bob doing really well at this point in time and should be really interesting to see what happens next!! LV situation doesnÆt look good at this point in time.. On the up side the core of LV is still very much alive and strength is still there waiting for the right moments too bounce back!! I take my hat off too some of the opposed alliances for their pos warfare display (RA), but the numbers have been to great for any one alliance to deal with.. The current situation could well help LV as now its time to think about fighting together :p ..
Looking forward to some more action and see you all on the battlefield..
Who do you really want to win???
POST WITH YOUR MAIN OR STFU
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.04 08:51:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Gods Coldblood I have to say this thread has some decent and honest information in it, good job too all.. Its good too see bob doing really well at this point in time and should be really interesting to see what happens next!! LV situation doesnÆt look good at this point in time.. On the up side the core of LV is still very much alive and strength is still there waiting for the right moments too bounce back!! I take my hat off too some of the opposed alliances for their pos warfare display (RA), but the numbers have been to great for any one alliance to deal with.. The current situation could well help LV as now its time to think about fighting together :p ..
Looking forward to some more action and see you all on the battlefield..
Who do you really want to win???
Bad people management, and shafting allies has a way of coming back to bite you. LV systematically abandoned their allies, including GS. That's why they're dying.
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nico wurz250
The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.04 09:13:00 -
[216]
A new record for EVE, the POS spawning war.
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D1ck Jones
Old Detroit Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.04 09:14:00 -
[217]
Originally by: Dragerest
Originally by: Marko Zhang Edited by: Marko Zhang on 04/03/2007 04:51:14
Originally by: 0raven0 bob/friends don't carebear, we only PvP.. In the mean time the belts get thick, and the rats get a chance for better ships and setup complexes :p
Right. BoB didn't have to mine at all for those Titans. They just snapped their fingers and they appeared out of thin air. Actually, that's probably precisely what happened. 
 sounds about right.
yep,much easier to belive in conspiricy theories than to look in the mirror and admit how badly you have been beaten by them. In fact, I havent seen any cryptic one-liners from your toddler in chief in some time.
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D1ck Jones
Old Detroit Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.04 09:16:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Kirex did you invlude your nyx BPO in the stat5s? ;p
I wasnt aware that killmails now distinguished between bpo and bpc, is this a new feature?
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Tod Klemp
Gallente K-Street Project
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Posted - 2007.03.04 09:17:00 -
[219]
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: Lorth You know in order to paint any pilot in BOB as being a cheater, your going to have to convince me that they knew who T20 was, and that the BPO's were fake. The conversation would have had to have gone like this.
"Hi, I'm a dev, and I spawned these BPO's for my self, now I'm giving them to you"
While I'm willing to believe that anything is possible, that idea borders on the insane. I know when writing this by and large its going to fall on deaf ears, but I can't imagine any right thinking person coming to the conclusion that BOB directors knew the BPO's were fake, which is the only reasonable way to brand them as they have been.
You know in order to paint yourself as a human being, your going to have to convince me that you actually exist, and that the you're not just a college AI project by a slightly less intelligent college student. The conversation would have had to have gone like this.
"Hi, I'm really open minded and the fact that there is more than enough circumstantial evidence to at least arouse suspicion that would be against my programming"
While I'm willing to believe that anything is possible, that idea borders on the insane. I know when writing this by and large its going to fall on deaf ears, but I can't imagine any right thinking person coming to the conclusion that there is any possibility I'm not a broken propaganda record that wont keep looping over and over.
did you see the bpo's he spawned?
Have you bought any other characters off ebay lately suas?
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Tod Klemp
Gallente K-Street Project
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Posted - 2007.03.04 09:20:00 -
[220]
Edited by: Tod Klemp on 04/03/2007 09:16:13
Originally by: KIATolon Edited by: KIATolon on 04/03/2007 08:37:20
Originally by: The Jok3r Hi SUAS back when I fist heard of you your fame came for being the only FC in[5] to loose a fleet fight against FE. I bet the goons don't second guess your leadership desicions despite how retarded they might seem. But with skillpoints come experience and knoledge and soon the will be saying this guy is retarded just like FE did.
The five lost quite a few fleet battles against FE, but whatever. If I get kicked out of GS I can buy another chacter off EBAY and smack them on the forums. Oh no, I post my knoledge with my main.
fixed that for ya
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GLok
Caldari Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.04 09:57:00 -
[221]
Originally by: Tod Klemp Edited by: Tod Klemp on 04/03/2007 09:16:13
Originally by: KIATolon Edited by: KIATolon on 04/03/2007 08:37:20
Originally by: The Jok3r Hi SUAS back when I fist heard of you your fame came for being the only FC in[5] to loose a fleet fight against FE. I bet the goons don't second guess your leadership desicions despite how retarded they might seem. But with skillpoints come experience and knoledge and soon the will be saying this guy is retarded just like FE did.
The five lost quite a few fleet battles against FE, but whatever. If I get kicked out of GS I can buy another chacter off EBAY and smack them on the forums. Oh no, I post my knoledge with my main.
fixed that for ya
Oh jeeze, keep going, your intelligence is beyond my viable comprehensation. --------------------
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Shadowsword
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.04 10:00:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Entilzah Valen Shut the **** up about the Nyx BPO.
FFS. "Nyx BPO! Nyx BPO!"
If I had 17 Billion to replace the Nyx BPO, guess what, all I have to do is go to the proper place, spend the 17 Billion and I INSTANTLY have the BPO back.
However, your Dreads will take much longer to replace.
Not much longer, as there's quite a few Dreads on sale in empire, too.
I notice Sir Molle didn't show battleships losses, I guess they're a bit less one-sided... ------------------------------------------ Every ship has a base 60-70% resist against the primary damage type of the race that is the least able to vary it's damage types. |

Topaz Skydiver
Minmatar Narrative Freshfood
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Posted - 2007.03.04 10:05:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Brunswick2
Originally by: Skrypt Perhaps I missed something but LV certainly isn't out of this. Our stations? Perhaps. But stations don't kill dreads. :)
Neither does LV...
Just as a remark: LV still 2365 members, about the same number as when I was checking it the last two times some weeks ago ... They can still fight against the coalition without stations, imho they can do it even better, because they can decide, when and where to attack, and then have a comeback in conquerable space later. We'll see. LV is far from being defeated yet.
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Minmatar Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.03.04 10:11:00 -
[224]
Always, what's more important than what is written is what's not written. So far, in this writer's opinion the war against MC-BoB hasn't really started yet. There's been a lot of probing on all sides, but most of the savagery has been in the RA/Goons/TCF vs. LV front. Now that LV has been knocked out, my opinion is that consolidation will continue in the southeast with some raids and reprisals until the 'coalition' is ready to move forward in force again.
But as I said, what's not written. Logistically, so far MC-BoB has the advantage. They themselves have not suffered serious losses, and their core systems (some of the most lucrative in the game) are solid. What works against them though, is that they have hostile forces on 3 sides. LV collapsed before BoB could deal a telling blow against the invaders from the North. If they could have knocked the North out with heavy losses, this war would be decidedly tilted in BoB's favor. Instead, they still have the united NAPpies in the fight from the north. The southern 'coalition' threatens the SE, and BoB's pet mercs are matched against a force that is easily their equal in AAA.
The unwritten facts are that BoB & friends are numerically outnumbered on all fronts by angry mobs bent on their complete destruction. Some like the RA and Goons will undoubtedly fight to the last newbie frigate and while dismissed as rabble by some, they seem to have good resources. There is no way I ever see either of them quitting the fight under any circumstances. BoB has the advantage of defending an area they hand-picked to claim SOV over. They know the choke points and their regions are very lucrative for their tenants to exploit.
BoB can't be everywhere, however. Their numerical disadvantage leaves them open to simple blobbing. Now that the 'feature' on how BoB miraculously recovers from nodecrashes is widespread knowledge, their ability to magically destroy much larger attacking blobs arrayed against them will be much lesser. People like K(censored)men are exposing all of BoB's tricks and as a result, their enemies are learning to recognize and counter them. By tricks, I'm not talking illegal chicanery, I mean carefully researched and tested use of game mechanics, which BoB has proved masterful at. BoB also still has the advantage of possessing a driven cadre of some of the most battle-tested and experienced (SP-wise) pilots in the game.
I am 3 months into this game as a paying customer. I have followed the game for approximately a year through friends and third-party forums. You'd be surprised how many people are fans of EVE but do not play, and how closely the politics, battles, and personalities are followed outside of the game. This is what brought me into it, and I am super glad I did at the time I chose to, because this looks to be an awesome spring and summer coming up for EVE. I freely admit to not having 'all the facts' at any given time. I further freely admit that my observations are likely flawed in some respects, and that if I was leading an alliance or corp based on them, we'd possibly be mining Veld next week in Rens. I am 'for' the underdogs in this case, all the forces arrayed against BoB & friends, because I believe they were getting too strong and need to be knocked back before they became too strong for anyone ever to overcome. But I'm also not afraid to admit what's what, and if BoB wins out, you won't hear me crying HAXX. Good fights and happy flying to all involved. And sorry for the wall of text -- once I get going, I go...
[I am not in any way speaking for my corp or alliance, both of which are probably going to put my genitalia in a blender for posting here]
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Rikeka
Amarr Eye of God X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.03.04 10:17:00 -
[225]
Nice write-up from Molle. Mind you, not the kind of post normally comes from him, mind you. 
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.04 10:26:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Tod Klemp Edited by: Tod Klemp on 04/03/2007 09:16:13
Originally by: KIATolon Edited by: KIATolon on 04/03/2007 08:37:20
Originally by: The Jok3r Hi SUAS back when I fist heard of you your fame came for being the only FC in[5] to loose a fleet fight against FE. I bet the goons don't second guess your leadership desicions despite how retarded they might seem. But with skillpoints come experience and knoledge and soon the will be saying this guy is retarded just like FE did.
The five lost quite a few fleet battles against FE, but whatever. If I get kicked out of GS I can buy another chacter off EBAY and smack them on the forums. Oh no, I post my knoledge with my main.
fixed that for ya
I've obviously annoyed you enough for you to feel that you need to bring RL into a game. I've been petitioned more times for that by my enemies than your main has lost regions to us, however I'm still here. Perhaps Lorth can lecture you about making accusations without evidence?
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.04 10:31:00 -
[227]
Edited by: Plutoinum on 04/03/2007 10:29:26 Edited by: Plutoinum on 04/03/2007 10:27:30
Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke Some like the RA and Goons will undoubtedly fight to the last newbie frigate and while dismissed as rabble by some
I wouldn't bet on it that RA themselves go west against BoB. At least, not because they get an orgasm just by the thought of beating BoB, unlike others. RA are strategists, so I think they'll do what's best for them. They won't waste billions in capitals just to appear on some BoB killmails, except it pays somehow back to them.
Their main objective was to beat the coalition that was against them. That's why they invited Goonfleet, TCF and Imperium in the first place, not to kill BoB. ___________ Muuuhhh !!! |

Minmatar Citizen 138031
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Posted - 2007.03.04 10:42:00 -
[228]
Actually if you check the bob killboard they have had a positive Battleship ratio all the way through this war, except the one day they got dooms dayed by D2's second titan. Although I try to search losses by alliance it doesn't let me I think its broken, which is why there is probs no BS stats.
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IWasMadeForThis
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Posted - 2007.03.04 10:52:00 -
[229]
I just logged onto their kb and it seems to me on their frontpage they lost twice as many as they killed yesterday 
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Gods Coldblood
The Phoenix Rising Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.04 10:59:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Audri Fisher
Originally by: Gods Coldblood I have to say this thread has some decent and honest information in it, good job too all.. Its good too see bob doing really well at this point in time and should be really interesting to see what happens next!! LV situation doesnÆt look good at this point in time.. On the up side the core of LV is still very much alive and strength is still there waiting for the right moments too bounce back!! I take my hat off too some of the opposed alliances for their pos warfare display (RA), but the numbers have been to great for any one alliance to deal with.. The current situation could well help LV as now its time to think about fighting together :p ..
Looking forward to some more action and see you all on the battlefield..
Who do you really want to win???
POST WITH YOUR MAIN OR STFU
How old are you? Do you want a cookie, and are u taller enough to get on this ride?
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Faaip De Oiad
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Posted - 2007.03.04 11:15:00 -
[231]
Originally by: Entilzah Valen Shut the **** up about the Nyx BPO.
FFS. "Nyx BPO! Nyx BPO!"
If I had 17 Billion to replace the Nyx BPO, guess what, all I have to do is go to the proper place, spend the 17 Billion and I INSTANTLY have the BPO back.
However, your Dreads will take much longer to replace.
Just wanted to assist you all in pulling your heads out of your asses for a few moments so that you see the light of day and stop playing the "Nyx" card.
It's crap like this that makes me doubt the ability of the northern bloc to actually be successful in the long term, the failure to stay in touch with the reality of circumstance.
Flame away!
calm down again 
let's take a look at the "nyx situation" ..
possibility A - it was a BPO ... so they are 18bio down the drain. 18bio that could be invested in other stuff - like POSes + fuel, fleetfitted BS and so on ... yes, if it was a BPO it can be replaced easily - open market and buy it.
possibility B - it was a BPC ... they are still 3bio down the drain (unless they are doing the copying themselves - but then they could sell the copy instead replacing the lost one) ... and remember - copying a mothership BP takes a few weeks (or was it months? ... not sure don't have a clue about BP-copying) .. in other words - they either have to buy a new MS BPC (which might not be that easy considering the limited availability) or a BPO or their MS production gets significant delayed. oh .. and 3bio isk are still 1 nice fitted dreadnought or 3 crappy fitted carriers.  ___________________
-Skellibjalla- Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit.
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Hast
Refused.
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Posted - 2007.03.04 12:27:00 -
[232]
It was a bpc.
Aeon cried abit about it, then got over it.
Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
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s4mp3r0r
ZiTek Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.03.04 12:35:00 -
[233]
Edited by: s4mp3r0r on 04/03/2007 12:32:02 incredible how molle can still post after so many people petioning him and ofcourse no response by ISD.
Quote: I wish i could tell you more but I was sworn to absolute secrecy!
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Uuve Savisaalo
Umbra Congregatio
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Posted - 2007.03.04 16:55:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke
I am 3 months into this game as a paying customer. I have followed the game for approximately a year through friends and third-party forums. You'd be surprised how many people are fans of EVE but do not play, and how closely the politics, battles, and personalities are followed outside of the game. This is what brought me into it, and I am super glad I did at the time I chose to, because this looks to be an awesome spring and summer coming up for EVE.
A very nice and accurate summary of events and projectons, Ponderous. In a forum where anything from posturing to outright misinformative propaganda is the norm, i find it refreshing to see someone trying to look at the situation with due objectivity.
I think in the end our whole goal here is to pose challenge to one another and have fun - some of my friends in bob are sure to agree with that assessment. Whoever 'wins' this and what ever the victory conditions you've set for yourselves may be, the coming months should prove most entertaining for the lot of us.
and that is why eve is the best offering on the market right now in my opinion.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.03.04 17:00:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Plutoinum
I wouldn't bet on it that RA themselves go west against BoB. At least, not because they get an orgasm just by the thought of beating BoB, unlike others. RA are strategists, so I think they'll do what's best for them. They won't waste billions in capitals just to appear on some BoB killmails, except it pays somehow back to them.
Their main objective was to beat the coalition that was against them. That's why they invited Goonfleet, TCF and Imperium in the first place, not to kill BoB.
LV tried to remove RA from 0.0 BoB tried to remove Goons from 0.0 Goons help RA remove LV from 0.0 RA _____________________________
Fill in the blank. 
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.03.04 17:06:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Gods Coldblood
Originally by: Audri Fisher
Originally by: Gods Coldblood I have to say this thread has some decent and honest information in it, good job too all.. Its good too see bob doing really well at this point in time and should be really interesting to see what happens next!! LV situation doesnÆt look good at this point in time.. On the up side the core of LV is still very much alive and strength is still there waiting for the right moments too bounce back!! I take my hat off too some of the opposed alliances for their pos warfare display (RA), but the numbers have been to great for any one alliance to deal with.. The current situation could well help LV as now its time to think about fighting together :p ..
Looking forward to some more action and see you all on the battlefield..
Who do you really want to win???
POST WITH YOUR MAIN OR STFU
How old are you? Do you want a cookie, and are u taller enough to get on this ride?
Old, and educated enough to use semi correct grammar and spelling.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.03.04 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: NATMav
Originally by: Plutoinum
I wouldn't bet on it that RA themselves go west against BoB. At least, not because they get an orgasm just by the thought of beating BoB, unlike others. RA are strategists, so I think they'll do what's best for them. They won't waste billions in capitals just to appear on some BoB killmails, except it pays somehow back to them.
Their main objective was to beat the coalition that was against them. That's why they invited Goonfleet, TCF and Imperium in the first place, not to kill BoB.
LV tried to remove RA from 0.0 BoB tried to remove Goons from 0.0 Goons help RA remove LV from 0.0 RA _____________________________
Fill in the blank. 
LV tried to remove RA from 0.0 BoB tried to remove Goons from 0.0 Goons help RA remove LV from 0.0 RA goes to jita to mine veldspar and eat pie? 
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smaktak
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Posted - 2007.03.04 17:10:00 -
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Well the way i see the war going is this
Bob has done fantastic so far, defending their allies on all fronts , but and its a big but - lol (no pun intended)
I cant wait for when the Eastern Coalition go to Querious to play (thats if they do) Goonies, TCF, AAA, Curse, etc - It gonna be madness, and very hard to defend against It dont matter how good BOB are, The ISK,s are gonna start hurting soon thru losses
I foresee the Coalition slowly but surely wearing the Alliance down, system by system - OH THE CARNAGE  with a final stand by the Alliance somewhere in Delve, Perhaps even with some BOB friends there to help out (see the last stand of the Dominion on Cardassia- lol)
However this aint gonna happen for a few months i think Logistics will eventually work out, i see the Coalition shipyards turning out ships at 110% As for the Alliance, i dont know - but - they better be or its over for them
This is my own personal take on the war and do not reflect on any side
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ScreamingLord Sutch
Hand in Mouth
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Posted - 2007.03.04 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowsword
I notice Sir Molle didn't show battleships losses, I guess they're a bit less one-sided...
Since I'm a stats ***** I went and looked
Battleships 823 killed 238 lost.
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Hel Kali
Caldari ICE is Coming to EVE Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.04 18:21:00 -
[240]
Originally by: NATMav
Originally by: Plutoinum
I wouldn't bet on it that RA themselves go west against BoB. At least, not because they get an orgasm just by the thought of beating BoB, unlike others. RA are strategists, so I think they'll do what's best for them. They won't waste billions in capitals just to appear on some BoB killmails, except it pays somehow back to them.
Their main objective was to beat the coalition that was against them. That's why they invited Goonfleet, TCF and Imperium in the first place, not to kill BoB.
LV tried to remove RA from 0.0 BoB tried to remove Goons from 0.0 Goons help RA remove LV from 0.0 RA _____________________________
Fill in the blank. 
LV tried to remove RA from 0.0 BoB tried to remove Goons from 0.0 Goons help RA remove LV from 0.0 RA and coalition remove LV and Bob from 0.0
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Onchas Erivvia
The Andromeda Directorate SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.04 18:41:00 -
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So in summary, BoB is holding half of the front in the war. Good thing LV is holding the other half. Err...
On a different subject, can anyone explain to me what that ticktock sound is coming from this thread?
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Nessa Aldeen
Baltic StarFleet Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.04 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Onchas Erivvia So in summary, BoB is holding half of the front in the war. Good thing LV is holding the other half. Err...
On a different subject, can anyone explain to me what that ticktock sound is coming from this thread?
No more tick tocks..we are living in the 21st century, use digital clocks ftw.
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Ceratin
ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.04 20:44:00 -
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Hate to disappoint but this war hasnt even started yet.. we'll be sure to let you know when it does though :) ------------
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Centerfold
Caldari Underworld
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Posted - 2007.03.04 20:51:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Ceratin Hate to disappoint but this war hasnt even started yet.. we'll be sure to let you know when it does though :)
That's right. D2 can only lose Titans on their own. They won't dare to attack BoB until RAGOONCA brings their titans to the war. It will be a while.
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Crellion
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.04 20:56:00 -
[245]
Respect for the OP I have been waiting for such detailed yet summarized info for a long time. Thank You Sir.
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JackOfHearts
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.04 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Ceratin Hate to disappoint but this war hasnt even started yet.. we'll be sure to let you know when it does though :)
yeah true, we have just been mining.
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Weka Dart
Caldari Band of Sisters
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Posted - 2007.03.04 21:05:00 -
[247]
Originally by: JackOfHearts
Originally by: Ceratin Hate to disappoint but this war hasnt even started yet.. we'll be sure to let you know when it does though :)
yeah true, we have just been mining.
tbfh we noticed, now get your act together or we'll install new residents.
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Nez Sewers
Black Toilet.
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Posted - 2007.03.04 21:11:00 -
[248]
Originally by: Ceratin Hate to disappoint but this war hasnt even started yet.. we'll be sure to let you know when it does though :)
And you lost 20 dreads and titan already.
I wonder what can really start. --------- Darker(and more stinking) side of ...
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Nez Sewers
Black Toilet.
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Posted - 2007.03.04 21:11:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Ceratin Hate to disappoint but this war hasnt even started yet.. we'll be sure to let you know when it does though :)
And you lost 20 dreads and titan already.
I wonder what can really start. --------- Darker(and more stinking) side of ...
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Retrostyle
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Posted - 2007.03.04 21:13:00 -
[250]
Edited by: Retrostyle on 04/03/2007 21:10:03
Originally by: Skrypt But stations don't kill dreads. :)
Neither does LV but you lose them like candy. Oh and corps too.
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Retrostyle
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Posted - 2007.03.04 21:13:00 -
[251]
Edited by: Retrostyle on 04/03/2007 21:10:03
Originally by: Skrypt But stations don't kill dreads. :)
Neither does LV but you lose them like candy. Oh and corps too.
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DARKLING
InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.04 21:20:00 -
[252]
Edited by: DARKLING on 04/03/2007 21:20:40 Edited by: DARKLING on 04/03/2007 21:19:50 Edited by: DARKLING on 04/03/2007 21:17:52 Edited by: DARKLING on 04/03/2007 21:17:13 Does anyone actually read forums any more....................oh yes guess I do :)
But then as game is down yet again {and mid battle , again....} , what else am I going to do? {looks out window, and shudders}
s'posse I have to read more drivel then :) http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=drivel
=============================================== 'You see things; and you say 'Why?' But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?'
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DARKLING
InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.04 21:20:00 -
[253]
Edited by: DARKLING on 04/03/2007 21:20:40 Edited by: DARKLING on 04/03/2007 21:19:50 Edited by: DARKLING on 04/03/2007 21:17:52 Edited by: DARKLING on 04/03/2007 21:17:13 Does anyone actually read forums any more....................oh yes guess I do :)
But then as game is down yet again {and mid battle , again....} , what else am I going to do? {looks out window, and shudders}
s'posse I have to read more drivel then :) http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=drivel
=============================================== 'You see things; and you say 'Why?' But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?'
George Bernard Shaw
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.05 03:52:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Nez Sewers
Originally by: Ceratin Hate to disappoint but this war hasnt even started yet.. we'll be sure to let you know when it does though :)
And you lost 20 dreads and titan already.
I wonder what can really start.
They have all been replaced mate ..the dreads within 48hours.
Can you say the same for M.Corp or the collapse of LV.
You can build ships..but you can't build the pilots 
CCP nerfed my sig..but this one has my name in it
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Centerfold
Caldari Underworld
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Posted - 2007.03.05 04:22:00 -
[255]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Nez Sewers
Originally by: Ceratin Hate to disappoint but this war hasnt even started yet.. we'll be sure to let you know when it does though :)
And you lost 20 dreads and titan already.
I wonder what can really start.
They have all been replaced mate ..the dreads within 48hours.
Can you say the same for M.Corp or the collapse of LV.
You can build ships..but you can't build the pilots 
So where are your new dreads, or are you waiting for the goons to crash the node before you bring them out again?
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Dragerest
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.05 05:02:00 -
[256]
Originally by: Centerfold
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Nez Sewers
Originally by: Ceratin Hate to disappoint but this war hasnt even started yet.. we'll be sure to let you know when it does though :)
And you lost 20 dreads and titan already.
I wonder what can really start.
They have all been replaced mate ..the dreads within 48hours.
Can you say the same for M.Corp or the collapse of LV.
You can build ships..but you can't build the pilots 
So where are your new dreads, or are you waiting for the goons to crash the node before you bring them out again?
yes i like the part on TS where someone losses a dread and ****** says " i got another one in ********* just jump back and get it."
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ScreamingLord Sutch
Hand in Mouth
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Posted - 2007.03.05 05:37:00 -
[257]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Nez Sewers
Originally by: Ceratin Hate to disappoint but this war hasnt even started yet.. we'll be sure to let you know when it does though :)
And you lost 20 dreads and titan already.
I wonder what can really start.
They have all been replaced mate ..the dreads within 48hours.
Can you say the same for M.Corp or the collapse of LV.
You can build ships..but you can't build the pilots 
WTS the balls to use them...
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Dragerest
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.05 05:40:00 -
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you must be a bob alt. cus alot of bob try to talk all big and bad by using "balls" molle has said it alot. and it's not getting him anywhere cept back to empire
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Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.03.05 06:08:00 -
[259]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Nez Sewers
Originally by: Ceratin Hate to disappoint but this war hasnt even started yet.. we'll be sure to let you know when it does though :)
And you lost 20 dreads and titan already.
I wonder what can really start.
They have all been replaced mate ..the dreads within 48hours.
Can you say the same for M.Corp or the collapse of LV.
You can build ships..but you can't build the pilots 
D2 had no hand in anything done to LV, that was an entirely different war, just because BoB showed up for a few DD's and a weekend doesn't make you connected at the hip with RA or capable of comprehending anything that happened over there.
BoB killed your titan, not LV. But hey, brag about their war when yours isn't going so well, and just because something was replaced, doesn't make it any less of a defeat, especially when it's a titan. ------- Someone from MC peer-pressured me to smoke pot, now I'm cool. |

xHomicide
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.05 07:35:00 -
[260]
Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Nez Sewers
Originally by: Ceratin Hate to disappoint but this war hasnt even started yet.. we'll be sure to let you know when it does though :)
And you lost 20 dreads and titan already.
I wonder what can really start.
They have all been replaced mate ..the dreads within 48hours.
Can you say the same for M.Corp or the collapse of LV.
You can build ships..but you can't build the pilots 
D2 had no hand in anything done to LV, that was an entirely different war, just because BoB showed up for a few DD's and a weekend doesn't make you connected at the hip with RA or capable of comprehending anything that happened over there.
BoB killed your titan, not LV. But hey, brag about their war when yours isn't going so well, and just because something was replaced, doesn't make it any less of a defeat, especially when it's a titan.
exactly, everyone knows BoB pulled back to delve because they wanted LV to die. --- Razor CEI
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.05 07:38:00 -
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Originally by: xHomicide exactly, everyone knows BoB pulled back to delve because they wanted LV to die.
Those BASTARDS!!! 
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.03.05 07:41:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Vasili Z
D2 had no hand in anything done to LV, that was an entirely different war, just because BoB showed up for a few DD's and a weekend doesn't make you connected at the hip with RA or capable of comprehending anything that happened over there.
BoB killed your titan, not LV. But hey, brag about their war when yours isn't going so well, and just because something was replaced, doesn't make it any less of a defeat, especially when it's a titan.
Here's a shocker, their war is our war, just as ours is theirs.
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Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.03.05 08:21:00 -
[263]
Edited by: Vasili Z on 05/03/2007 08:25:05
Originally by: NATMav
Originally by: Vasili Z
D2 had no hand in anything done to LV, that was an entirely different war, just because BoB showed up for a few DD's and a weekend doesn't make you connected at the hip with RA or capable of comprehending anything that happened over there.
BoB killed your titan, not LV. But hey, brag about their war when yours isn't going so well, and just because something was replaced, doesn't make it any less of a defeat, especially when it's a titan.
Here's a shocker, their war is our war, just as ours is theirs.
Their war? Oh right, the one they've been fighting for years instead of weeks, that's your war eh? RA's incredible comeback is RA's war, RA's achievement.
Just because BoB sided with LV for a week and you hate BoB doesn't put you in RA's league.
Your war, will be their war, when they actually get actively involved in shooting BoB in BoB space. Until that happens the connection is just a bunch of arbitrary forum posts. ------- Someone from MC peer-pressured me to smoke pot, now I'm cool. |

WETRAIN
Minmatar R.U.S.T. Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.03.05 08:27:00 -
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BoB told LV to move to Stain      ----------------------------------------- RUST IS RECRUTING! -----------------------------------------
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DeadDuck
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.05 08:34:00 -
[265]
Originally by: Vasili Z
Just because BoB sided with LV for a week and you hate BoB doesn't put you in RA's league.
You're right. RA is fighting for ages. But we all know that BOB would still be in the East if it wasnt the attack from the North.
I dont know if RA will go for BOB, after they are done with LV. I really dont care to be honest. If they come it would be great. If they stop we only have to thank RA for the huge role in the defeat of one of the two biggest BOB allies still in game.
Either way they already deserve a big THANK YOU RA 
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Franga
Caldari NQX Logistics
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Posted - 2007.03.05 08:48:00 -
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Edited by: Franga on 05/03/2007 08:45:16
Originally by: Vasili Z My name is Vasili Z and I talk alot but am not actually involved in the war.
Look, mate, you can have an opinion, but afaik YouWhat are not involved in this war. As a result of that you have even less of an idea then the people who sprout propaganda all across these forums.
I mean, feel free, but you don't actually matter in the scheme of things. I mean - you're practically as insignificant as my corp. Not completely, but practically. Us saying crap about the war doesn't mean alot. We get our info from the forums and contacts that we have. Not from actually being there.
And don't dis Flinx. He's all hawt and stuff.
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Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.03.05 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: Franga Edited by: Franga on 05/03/2007 08:45:16
Originally by: Vasili Z My name is Vasili Z and I talk alot but am not actually involved in the war.
Look, mate, you can have an opinion, but afaik YouWhat are not involved in this war. As a result of that you have even less of an idea then the people who sprout propaganda all across these forums.
I mean, feel free, but you don't actually matter in the scheme of things. I mean - you're practically as insignificant as my corp. Not completely, but practically. Us saying crap about the war doesn't mean alot. We get our info from the forums and contacts that we have. Not from actually being there.
And don't dis Flinx. He's all hawt and stuff.
Edit: some grammatical bugs
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Shin Gor
Absolute Guardians
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Posted - 2007.03.05 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: DeadDuck
Originally by: Vasili Z
Just because BoB sided with LV for a week and you hate BoB doesn't put you in RA's league.
You're right. RA is fighting for ages. But we all know that BOB would still be in the East if it wasnt the attack from the North.
I dont know if RA will go for BOB, after they are done with LV. I really dont care to be honest. If they come it would be great. If they stop we only have to thank RA for the huge role in the defeat of one of the two biggest BOB allies still in game.
Either way they already deserve a big THANK YOU RA 
Divide and conquer.
That is what you do D¦. It is only with your help that RA wouldn't have to face combined capital fleets of LV and BoB. You made the war so much easier for the eastern coalition, they are almost disappointed of how easy it was going till now. LV were supposed to be very powerful, militarily and industrially. They fell only after one month of fighting. (Makes you kinda respect ASCN more, doesn't it?) To my opinion because they were waiting for uncle BoB to swoop in and fight RAGOON in their stead... Wich probably was the initial agreement. Both alliances underestimated the intelligence of the New Eden's population, they actually thought they would kill us off one by one. D¦ most definately proved them wrong. And now BoB are sitting in their corner, not being able to advance to far into the north, because of D's onslaught. And they are also not fighting their war's initial target, the RAGOON. Don't forget that it is BoB who started the New Eden war, even if they look like victims of it now. I feel almost sorry for them... well no i don't. :) BoB completely lost the initiative, and with it the war. For now they are just waiting for the coalition to kill of their Pets (how dreaful) and come knocking on their door. All possible thank to D¦...... and RAGOONS incredible military power ofcourse. :P
So don't underestimate your part in it. Keep up the good work!
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Chuck Dawg
Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.05 09:50:00 -
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The title of this thread say it all. "One Month." When you think of the size of wallets being thrown into this on both sides it will not be over for a long time. LV is a meat shield for BoB. So is FIX and Xales. Sorry guys, but it's true. (And in contrast FLA is viewed as much the same for IRON and D2, although we are trying hard to change that.) True I have not seen a whole lot of this war, but from what I have seen in the last two weeks is sad. FIX and MC try to get things done but fail. They camp gates until an opposing force in assmebled and they run to a POS to hide. They attacked with motherships and carriers VS battleships. If the enemy comes with their own capital fleet MC/FIX run away, again. Good for us though that two carriers the other day were to slow to escape. Yeah this is from my own eye witness accounts over the last week. Its reinforced by the reading I do on these forums.
But yet I see FIX members on these forums spouting off about how powerful they are. About how they dont need BoB, MC and KIA to hold their hands. FIX got a beat down when IRON paid them a visit around New Years or so. And now its happening again on a larger scale.
BoB is a formitable force no doubt about that. They have the tactics, the dedication and the capital to do it (Capital in both capital ships and amount of isk/investments) Its just a matter of time before LV falls, and FIX soon after that. And once they're down who is next? BoB them selfs. They won't have the meat shields to fall back on any more to slow or halt the advance. They wont be able to choose what fight to reinforce, because every fight will be their own and not an ally's.
Yes, D2 has taken heavy capital losses. Whats your point? D2 is a huge alliance with deep deep pockets. They had a second Titan on the field a week after the first one died. The way the titan died was bull, we all know that, and should never happen again.
Anyways it all falls down to the simple fact that the over whelming show of force vs BoB and its battered allies will play its course. Once the crumple zone has fallen the main body will feel the brunt of the force.
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Posted - 2007.03.05 10:48:00 -
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Laboratus
Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.03.05 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Entilzah Valen Shut the **** up about the Nyx BPO.
FFS. "Nyx BPO! Nyx BPO!"
If I had 17 Billion to replace the Nyx BPO, guess what, all I have to do is go to the proper place, spend the 17 Billion and I INSTANTLY have the BPO back.
However, your Dreads will take much longer to replace.
It's crap like this that makes me doubt the ability of the northern bloc to actually be successful in the long term, the failure to stay in touch with the reality of circumstance.
Alliances have reserves. Big alliances have large reserves. Big alliances that have collected and built reserves for over 6 months have huge reserves. So replacing the dreads take as long as it takes to enter the station and enter the ship. And buying the nyx bpo requires flying in empire.
And considering the fact that only a fraction of the pilots are on the front line, it is rather doubtful that the capital yards have even slowed down during this war.
This war is rather peculiar in the fact that neither side has engaged the other sides economy structures (Except the LV capital shipyards). One would imagine taking down for example the other guys T2 reaction poses etc would slow down the income and possibly eventually make a dent into the enemy reserves as they don't fill their coffers so fast. But no. Just assaults on station systems. Poses require logistic efforts. Replacing ships is easier. Even though both are just isk. All in all, it is rather interesting... ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats |

Percival Diddly
Unscoped Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.05 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Gor Edited by: Shin Gor on 05/03/2007 09:46:30
Originally by: DeadDuck
Originally by: Vasili Z
Just because BoB sided with LV for a week and you hate BoB doesn't put you in RA's league.
You're right. RA is fighting for ages. But we all know that BOB would still be in the East if it wasnt the attack from the North.
I dont know if RA will go for BOB, after they are done with LV. I really dont care to be honest. If they come it would be great. If they stop we only have to thank RA for the huge role in the defeat of one of the two biggest BOB allies still in game.
Either way they already deserve a big THANK YOU RA 
Divide and conquer.
That is what you do D¦. It is only with your help that RA wouldn't have to face combined capital fleets of LV and BoB. You made the war so much easier for the eastern coalition, they are almost disappointed of how easy it was going till now. LV were supposed to be very powerful, militarily and industrially. They fell only after one month of fighting. (Makes you kinda respect ASCN more, doesn't it?) To my opinion because they were waiting for uncle BoB to swoop in and fight RAGOON in their stead... Wich probably was the initial agreement.
wow where have you been for the last 18 months? LV fell in one month? seriously love it when people who dont know whats going on or has been happening post as if they are the big guy. LV have been fighting alot longer than one month, infact it'd be easier to count the days they havent been fighting since the alliance was created.
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cainee
Turtle Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.03.05 11:33:00 -
[273]
Originally by: Dragerest you must be a bob alt. cus alot of bob try to talk all big and bad by using "balls" molle has said it alot. and it's not getting him anywhere cept back to empire
You are probably right. They have to go through the empire because of your upcoming tactical retreat back to north. Did you find a proper reason yet not losing your face? |

Gods Coldblood
The Phoenix Rising Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.05 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Gor Edited by: Shin Gor on 05/03/2007 09:46:30
Originally by: DeadDuck
Originally by: Vasili Z
Just because BoB sided with LV for a week and you hate BoB doesn't put you in RA's league.
You're right. RA is fighting for ages. But we all know that BOB would still be in the East if it wasnt the attack from the North.
I dont know if RA will go for BOB, after they are done with LV. I really dont care to be honest. If they come it would be great. If they stop we only have to thank RA for the huge role in the defeat of one of the two biggest BOB allies still in game.
Either way they already deserve a big THANK YOU RA 
Divide and conquer.
That is what you do D¦. It is only with your help that RA wouldn't have to face combined capital fleets of LV and BoB. You made the war so much easier for the eastern coalition, they are almost disappointed of how easy it was going till now. LV were supposed to be very powerful, militarily and industrially. They fell only after one month of fighting. (Makes you kinda respect ASCN more, doesn't it?) To my opinion because they were waiting for uncle BoB to swoop in and fight RAGOON in their stead... Wich probably was the initial agreement. Both alliances underestimated the intelligence of the New Eden's population, they actually thought they would kill us off one by one. D¦ most definately proved them wrong. And now BoB are sitting in their corner, not being able to advance to far into the north, because of D¦'s onslaught. And they are also not fighting their war's initial target, the RAGOON. Don't forget that it is BoB who started the New Eden War, even if they look like victims of it now. I feel almost sorry for them... well no i don't. :) BoB completely lost the initiative, and with it the war. For now they are just waiting for the coalition to kill of their Pets (how dreaful) and come knocking on their door. All possible thank to D¦...... and RAGOONS incredible military power ofcourse. :P
So don't underestimate your part in it D¦. Keep up the good work!
Ermm excuse me à. The ASCN war was no where near the size of this super universal war that has come around.. For you to even compare LV with this ASCN makes me laugh hard lol .. Did ASCN have 1000 ships tryin to get into their backyard??? (I could keep on talking about ur statement but ill leave it at that) Well at the end of the day LV has been forced into a offense weapon instead of defensive.. The coming months should be real interesting, and donÆt even think for 1 second LV are even close to death!!! We may not have a place to call home but this was always going happen too some alliances in this war..
You may take are land but ur never take are need for freedom !!!
Hf all 
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s4mp3r0r
ZiTek Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.03.05 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: s4mp3r0r on 05/03/2007 11:34:19 still no explanation about how Molle can still post after his posting of RL information. In other news CCP frowns upon malicious personal attacks but only when done to employees.
Quote: I wish i could tell you more but I was sworn to absolute secrecy!
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.05 11:43:00 -
[276]
Originally by: Vasili Z But hey, brag about their war when yours isn't going so well, and just because something was replaced, doesn't make it any less of a defeat, especially when it's a titan.
not going well...hmm
D2 alliance stats in Fountain Campaign Battleship 281 Killed 91 Lost
Or do you mean "yours" as in my war...well thats going even better 
Momentum Stats in Fountain Campaign Totals: 258 kills 52085.37M 59 Losses 2139.23M Efficiency: 96.05%
These killboards are linked to the feed syndicate, but I'm sure you'd just want to take the word of Molle that we are all dead 
CCP nerfed my sig..but this one has my name in it
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.05 11:47:00 -
[277]
Ace Frehley streaks....
I¦m running naked in a bob-thread!!!!
Girljerms is more lethal then a fleet of 1000 Tempests Yeah I¦m nude, I¦m a swede and I¦m armed with bad jokes
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Shin Gor
Absolute Guardians
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Posted - 2007.03.05 11:48:00 -
[278]
Originally by: Percival Diddly
wow where have you been for the last 18 months? LV fell in one month? seriously love it when people who dont know whats going on or has been happening post as if they are the big guy. LV have been fighting alot longer than one month, infact it'd be easier to count the days they havent been fighting since the alliance was created. [/quote
You call daily skirmishes a war? It was just for fun. Or did LV fight and loose their dreads just before the New Eden War started? As i understand it, for some time now there was an agreement not to fight a POS war between RA and LV, or just some unwillingness to do so but rather some need on both sides to lay back and relax. Sure not completely sease hostilities. But some RA gangs roaming around LV space or other way around is not a war. Be sure of that... It is peacetime, as peaceful as it gets. Time to heal to fill your pockets.
And sure LV was fighting wars in the last 18 Month, so is it some excuse now? Haven't they had just the same amount of wars as RA did? Or as much peace? What is it exactly you are saying? That it is normal for alliances that have been fighting some wars to become weak and worn down? Surely not, LV has most definately used the peace to build up. Or how would they get almost 2 Titans?
They didn't lose because they didn't have the isk. They just didn't want to lose their wealth to a war they knew all along was comming, to a war they new they could never win.
I guess RA has that kind of effect on it's opponents now. Nontheless as a respected alliance as LV was, they should have fought back more than they actually did. But it is not RAGOON who killed them, LV died from within.
----------- Where there is a will, there is a weapon.
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killerco
Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.05 11:55:00 -
[279]
Originally by: Ace Frehley Ace Frehley streaks....
I¦m running naked in a bob-thread!!!!
pls tell me your a beautifull girl otherwise thank you for putting a image in my head
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H3ndrix
Amarr Catalyst Reaction Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.05 11:57:00 -
[280]
D2 Fleet Sighted
Linkage
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arjun
Die Apokalyptischen Reiter Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.05 11:59:00 -
[281]
Edited by: arjun on 05/03/2007 11:56:54 if aces body is like his face, then i dont feel the hornyness coming strong to me atm.
and yes i am the middle guy in the above linked picture.
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.05 12:01:00 -
[282]
My face is my ugly part, people tells me other parts of me it is like: "the cadilack of *pip* 
Girljerms is more lethal then a fleet of 1000 Tempests Yeah I¦m nude, I¦m a swede and I¦m armed with bad jokes
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TXtrade1
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Posted - 2007.03.05 12:06:00 -
[283]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
D2 alliance stats in Fountain Campaign Battleship 281 Killed 91 Lost
Or do you mean "yours" as in my war...well thats going even better 
Momentum Stats in Fountain Campaign Totals: 258 kills 52085.37M 59 Losses 2139.23M Efficiency: 96.05%
These killboards are linked to the feed syndicate, but I'm sure you'd just want to take the word of Molle that we are all dead 
why isnt titan loss posted on d2 board? 
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Chuck Dawg
Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.05 12:07:00 -
[284]
Originally by: H3ndrix D2 Fleet Sighted
Linkage
Odd that you say this but yet its so easy to get a gang going in yz-lql. And yes, it included D2.
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Gods Coldblood
The Phoenix Rising Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.05 12:14:00 -
[285]
Originally by: Shin Gor Edited by: Shin Gor on 05/03/2007 11:48:27
Originally by: Percival Diddly
wow where have you been for the last 18 months? LV fell in one month? seriously love it when people who dont know whats going on or has been happening post as if they are the big guy. LV have been fighting alot longer than one month, infact it'd be easier to count the days they havent been fighting since the alliance was created.
You call daily skirmishes a war? It was just for fun. Or did LV fight and loose their dreads just before the New Eden War started? As i understand it, for some time now there was an agreement not to fight a POS war between RA and LV, or just some unwillingness to do so but rather some need on both sides to lay back and relax. Sure not completely sease hostilities. But some RA gangs roaming around LV space or other way around is not a war. Be sure of that... It is peacetime, as peaceful as it gets. Time to heal to fill your pockets.
And sure LV was fighting wars in the last 18 Month, so is it some excuse now? Haven't they had just the same amount of wars as RA did? Or as much peace? What is it exactly you are saying? That it is normal for alliances that have been fighting some wars to become weak and worn down? Surely not, LV has most definately used the peace to build up. Or how would they get almost 2 Titans?
They didn't lose because they didn't have the isk. They just didn't want to lose their wealth to a war they knew all along was comming, to a war they new they could never win.
I guess RA has that kind of effect on it's opponents now. Nontheless as a respected alliance as LV was, they should have fought back more than they actually did. But it is not RAGOON who killed them, LV died from within.
LV VS Goons, RA, CA, United legions alliance and TCF.... Ive proberly forgot some1 else but it was great fun..
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.05 12:16:00 -
[286]
Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 05/03/2007 12:14:02
Originally by: TXtrade1 why isnt titan loss posted on d2 board? 
I dont know...maybe its because we haven't lost one in combat yet 
Originally by: H3ndrix D2 Fleet Sighted
Well according to KB, you are in Branch and have killed 1 npc ratter during the entire war  No wonder you havent seen our fleet..get back to the front lines 
Edit: points to sig...notice the system name 
CCP nerfed my sig..but this one has my name in it
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Gods Coldblood
The Phoenix Rising Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.05 12:17:00 -
[287]
Edited by: Gods Coldblood on 05/03/2007 12:18:59 Edited by: Gods Coldblood on 05/03/2007 12:14:00
If i remember correctly CYVOK wrote somwhere that BoB used 2 gangs, one support and one BS. The support gang would jump in and out of a defended system and cracsh the node. Then the BoB fleet would come in and camp the defended gate as ASCN logged in.
Or something like that. So crashing nodes is nothing new... The only difference is that BoB deliberately crashed the nodes in BoB vs ASCN war, and GOONS just came en mass. Because theirs is a big alliance, and if the node held there would have been a fair fight... But it it not the point of this thread, right? So pretty please just let your Titan rest in Peace.
As to your need for freedom. Well soo you will be, as free as the wind. :) To go around the world, sing and dance for isk and so on.
You haven't defended your stations and your space when you still had it, you think i would believe that you would mine in empire and send your capital fleet against RA? Really? It is more probable that once you are in empire you just won't care anymore.
Ur still talking like its LV vs goons.. I wish it was that easy as we still have a home if that was the case.. The day the node crashhed and i was THERE!! There was Gooons, RA, CA, TCF and proberly more which i cant remeber due to tryin to get back into the game for hours..
Me never going back to empire unless i want too use my vindicator again :p
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.05 12:26:00 -
[288]
Edited by: Plutoinum on 05/03/2007 12:22:50
Originally by: NATMav
Originally by: Plutoinum
I wouldn't bet on it that RA themselves go west against BoB. At least, not because they get an orgasm just by the thought of beating BoB, unlike others. RA are strategists, so I think they'll do what's best for them. They won't waste billions in capitals just to appear on some BoB killmails, except it pays somehow back to them.
Their main objective was to beat the coalition that was against them. That's why they invited Goonfleet, TCF and Imperium in the first place, not to kill BoB.
LV tried to remove RA from 0.0 BoB tried to remove Goons from 0.0 Goons help RA remove LV from 0.0 RA _____________________________
Fill in the blank. 
RA has given Goonfleet a new home (=Scalding Pass) and helped them with capital support, probably also with a lot of isk for their war effort in the beginning and not to forget with knowhow. Without RA Goonfleet wouldn't be in the position where they are now. So well, I'd say it was a partnership, where both sides benefitted. ___________ Muuuhhh !!! |

Tharim
Crabbs
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Posted - 2007.03.05 12:27:00 -
[289]
Originally by: Ace Frehley Ace Frehley streaks....
I¦m running naked in a bob-thread!!!!
Ace, my hero! Whats best: hairy greek goat or a swedish hairy mountain goat?
Originally by: Sharkbait what queue are you stuck in. logging into the character selection page, logging into game, or jumping somewhere?
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Franga
Caldari NQX Logistics
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Posted - 2007.03.05 12:28:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Vasili Z Ya bud, I was in V for months for no reason.
But basically, me being in an alliance, corporation, and wanting to discuss these matters makes me insignificant in a Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions thread. I see your point.
You were in V - good for you. What are we just quoting alliances that we've been in? I was in D2. And some other Ark one that was not all that good. 
I can understand you wanting to comment on things in this CAOD thread. But you're showing a great amount of contempt for comments from people who are at least there. Whether they are factual or not, who knows. But where are you? Still in Fade or Cloudring or something? Yeah - your opinions are just based on what the rest of us pathetic forum junkies are based on. Forums and contacts. Not like being there.
I can't talk too much. I'm back in empire for the moment.  _____________________________ Eldo spanked my sig but I can't be bothered changing it just now. |
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.05 12:37:00 -
[291]
Edited by: Ace Frehley on 05/03/2007 12:35:11
Originally by: Tharim
Originally by: Ace Frehley Ace Frehley streaks....
I¦m running naked in a bob-thread!!!!
Ace, my hero! Whats best: hairy greek goat or a swedish hairy mountain goat?
Ace huggs his sexy norwegian friend...
long time no seeing, where have you been? Chasing those easy gallente chicks as usuall? 
Answear on the q: The swedish goat sounds more ho-rny so I recomend that 10 of 10 times :D
Girljerms is more lethal then a fleet of 1000 Tempests Yeah I¦m nude, I¦m a swede and I¦m armed with bad jokes
[url="http://www. |
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Ivan Kirilenkov
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.03.05 12:53:00 -
[292]
Removed some off-topic (the Hairy-Goat Association emailed us and politely requested to be kept out of this war) posts and alt posts. Please keep it on topic, and remember that you are not allowed to post in CAOD without your alliance and/or corporate ticker showing, or if you're not in a player corporation. Message ends.
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Altar Mei
Solstice Systems Development Concourse SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.05 12:57:00 -
[293]
Edited by: Altar Mei on 05/03/2007 12:54:26 Wo wo wo.... I missed a hairy goat association? Wtf?
meh... spelling
Originally by: CCP Arkanon We're a company of professionals, not some LAN party gone bad.
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Proxay
Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.05 13:07:00 -
[294]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar *snip* removed references to deleted posts. -Ivan K
Originally by: H3ndrix D2 Fleet Sighted
Well according to KB, you are in Branch and have killed 1 npc ratter during the entire war  No wonder you havent seen our fleet..get back to the front lines 
Edit: points to sig...notice the system name 
H3ndrix had to take care of his boy who was in hospital, but is now back, and has in fact killed 1 idiot raven, 1 faction fitted nighthawk, 1 covetor and 2 pods in the last 4 days.
Whilst total activity in branch is well and truely funny.
Quote: 1IX-C0 (0.0) Branch Ships Destroyed: 27 / Ships Lost: 1
And that's just one system.
Update your killboard.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.05 13:16:00 -
[295]
Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 05/03/2007 13:13:09
Originally by: Proxay
H3ndrix had to take care of his boy who was in hospital, but is now back, and has in fact killed 1 idiot raven, 1 faction fitted nighthawk, 1 covetor and 2 pods in the last 4 days.
Whilst total activity in branch is well and truely funny.
Quote: 1IX-C0 (0.0) Branch Ships Destroyed: 27 / Ships Lost: 1
Update your killboard.
Our boards are up to date I only referred to the D2 losses in branch from hendrix. There are other alliances resident in Branch and I know there has been gank squads roaming up there, so your figures may be accurate.
My point was....our fleet is NOT in Branch which might explain why he hasnt seen it.
PS...sorry to hear about the hospital thing
CCP nerfed my sig..but this one has my name in it
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whisk
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.05 13:46:00 -
[296]
Your boards are up to date? Oh i'm sorry i seem to have forgotten that you posted your titan loss mail.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.05 13:53:00 -
[297]
Originally by: whisk Your boards are up to date? Oh i'm sorry i seem to have forgotten that you posted your titan loss mail.
yeah ok  Someone else mentioned that and it got snipped by Ivan. I think the reason its not there is because it wasn't lost in combat...but I dont know.
With someone posting a reminder everyday its not like we are going to forget  Its one Titan, you can keep count in your head without a killboard 
CCP nerfed my sig..but this one has my name in it
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D1ck Jones
Old Detroit Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.05 14:05:00 -
[298]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: whisk Your boards are up to date? Oh i'm sorry i seem to have forgotten that you posted your titan loss mail.
yeah ok  Someone else mentioned that and it got snipped by Ivan. I think the reason its not there is because it wasn't lost in combat...but I dont know.
I lol'd...
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Proxay
Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.05 14:07:00 -
[299]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: whisk Your boards are up to date? Oh i'm sorry i seem to have forgotten that you posted your titan loss mail.
yeah ok  Someone else mentioned that and it got snipped by Ivan. I think the reason its not there is because it wasn't lost in combat...but I dont know.
With someone posting a reminder everyday its not like we are going to forget  Its one Titan, you can keep count in your head without a killboard 
It cost ammo, cynoships, time and effort...it's a kill and should be on your killboard.
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whisk
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.05 14:13:00 -
[300]
By not posting it everyone in D2 is waving their rights to say "our kill board is up to date" and "ffs post your loss mails (insert alliance here)".
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Ewa Quillam
Caldari mega mining corporation Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2007.03.05 15:08:00 -
[301]
SirMolle is trying to be a smart ass again and doing the usual propaganda, but without his habitual lack of respect. Ok.
There are things that are omitted on purpose and I'm not the only one who sees them: 1. The war has just started. 2. BoB's declared ally, LV was left to die and will die and BoB will do nothing to stop it. The South front will move in Period Basis in 1-2 months' time at this rate of success, maybe less. 3. BoB's pets are left to die and from the North Coalition killboards it looks like it's gonna be a long and lonely death. FIX is taking the hard losses on this one. 4. The Northern Coalition's effort has been the same since the beginning of the war. No one was pushed back. The focus is the same.
In the next 2-3 months we will we have the answer to the following questions: 1. Will SirMolle have the reasons to make such a post again? 2. Will 54 dreads, 5 MS and 2 Titans (and also adding the MC capitals) be enough to successfully cope with 3+ simultaneous attacks from 15-20 alliances and if yes, for how long?
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Aduna
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.03.05 15:12:00 -
[302]
and how many of those capital ships were made from the money you got from the illegally, dev-given T2 BPO's that you had? half?
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DeathGrip
Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.05 15:13:00 -
[303]
Over all I feel its a good post. I am sure some things have been left out that are good and bad for BoB, but you cant recall everythign and know every loss your alliance and friends take.
BTW: Those chicks on the outbreak sigs are nice 
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D1ck Jones
Old Detroit Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.05 15:22:00 -
[304]
Originally by: Aduna and how many of those capital ships were made from the money you got from the illegally, dev-given T2 BPO's that you had? half?
Give it a rest already, that is so january...
It's neither funny nor witty. grow up
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Rau'ric Fitzrovia
Twisted Attitude
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Posted - 2007.03.05 15:34:00 -
[305]
Edited by: Rau''ric Fitzrovia on 05/03/2007 15:31:56 Ok, I'm biased towards the side of The Coalition, for whatever reasons, but I object to this comment:
Originally by: Ewa Quillam 2. BoB's declared ally, LV was left to die and will die and BoB will do nothing to stop it. The South front will move in Period Basis in 1-2 months' time at this rate of success, maybe less.
Whether BoB left them to "die" or not is not what I object to. It's the complacent comments of "job (almost) done" regarding LV.
Admittedly LV has lost a (founding?) corp and it looks like they'll lose their home systems. But only the will of the members can kill an alliance. RA themselves are testament to that. LV still have plenty of pilot's and their likely relocation will tactically more convenient for the rest of their allies.
1 step back, 2 steps forward...
Anyways, down with BoB!! oh, and a refeshing change from a SirMolle post. Cheers.
Have fun all, Rau
Editted for quote idiocy
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Mindlles
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.05 15:45:00 -
[306]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: whisk Your boards are up to date? Oh i'm sorry i seem to have forgotten that you posted your titan loss mail.
yeah ok  Someone else mentioned that and it got snipped by Ivan. I think the reason its not there is because it wasn't lost in combat...but I dont know.
With someone posting a reminder everyday its not like we are going to forget  Its one Titan, you can keep count in your head without a killboard 
So let me see if i understand u right, as u lost ur titan when it was logged off, its not a proper kill, or do not need to be posted as it was logged off?
So that means, all does kills toxin got on d2 on players thta logged off in a way to attapmt to save their ships, schould not be posted???
Did i get it right Flinx Evenstar?
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Aelena Thraant
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.05 15:54:00 -
[307]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Vasili Z But hey, brag about their war when yours isn't going so well, and just because something was replaced, doesn't make it any less of a defeat, especially when it's a titan.
not going well...hmm
D2 alliance stats in Fountain Campaign Battleship 281 Killed 91 Lost
Or do you mean "yours" as in my war...well thats going even better 
Momentum Stats in Fountain Campaign Totals: 258 kills 52085.37M 59 Losses 2139.23M Efficiency: 96.05%
These killboards are linked to the feed syndicate, but I'm sure you'd just want to take the word of Molle that we are all dead 
Oh you just didn't start posting your killboard stats... LOL... The alliance that refuses to put your Titan loss on there and makes up fake POS kills (Even if you did kill the poses they are not game generated and therefore are fake)
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Saul Reaver
UK Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.05 16:01:00 -
[308]
Originally by: Dirtball Tell your pilots to stop convo'ing me about how bad pos wars suck and they want to join KEM its getting old.
ROFL Sorry, Ganking noobs in haulers in Empire is not ones idea of enjoyment.
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Fubear
Vogon Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.05 16:32:00 -
[309]
Originally by: Rau'ric Fitzrovia
Ok, I'm biased towards the side of The Coalition, for whatever reasons, but I object to this comment:
Originally by: Ewa Quillam 2. BoB's declared ally, LV was left to die and will die and BoB will do nothing to stop it. The South front will move in Period Basis in 1-2 months' time at this rate of success, maybe less.
Whether BoB left them to "die" or not is not what I object to. It's the complacent comments of "job (almost) done" regarding LV.
Admittedly LV has lost a (founding?) corp and it looks like they'll lose their home systems. But only the will of the members can kill an alliance. RA themselves are testament to that.
Outpost alert had LV at 16 or 17 stations. In a month of fighting, how many of those stations are still LV sov? I think they are down to their last two or three stations.
Originally by: Rau'ric Fitzrovia LV still have plenty of pilot's and their likely relocation will tactically more convenient for the rest of their allies.
1 step back, 2 steps forward...
I don't think that losing 15+ conq stations and retreating to NPC space swarming with AAA just 'one step back', particularly if you count being able to potentially support BoB 'two steps forwards'.
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Pesadel0
Vagabundos THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2007.03.05 16:33:00 -
[310]
What the op fails to mention is that LV is dieing .
And that even if RA and goons dont come to delve ,they will conquer the South ,and be there neighbors.
For me it was a bad post from molle because :
-It doest feel mollist
-It reeks with a sense of respect/fear for the adversary .
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Aduna
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.03.05 17:32:00 -
[311]
Originally by: s4mp3r0r Edited by: s4mp3r0r on 05/03/2007 11:34:19 still no explanation about how Molle can still post after his posting of RL information. In other news CCP frowns upon malicious personal attacks but only when done to employees.
QFT
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.05 17:44:00 -
[312]
Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 05/03/2007 17:43:25
Originally by: Mindlles So that means, all does kills toxin got on d2 on players thta logged off in a way to attapmt to save their ships, schould not be posted???
Did i get it right Flinx Evenstar?
I can only speak for Momentum, but logging off to save your pod is not tolerated, and if you have seen this happen then please contact me in game.
It seems to happen more and more these days and is a shame, if you catch me in a dictor bubble, you will get my kill mail 
And enough about the Titan...we all know we lost one and we all know "how" it was lost. Dont try to hijack this thread by twisting events and comparing a player logging while in a bubble...and a feat of spying and infiltration.
And to whoever it was that mentioned stats...D2 board is run by liquidism, he has gone to an lot of effort with the syndicate feed to make our boards auto parse mails.
We have had good fights with Outbreak, some were messy, and we have taken heavy losses. In the battles I was in, I dont recall anyone logging. In one engagement where we had lost the field, we even returned to the gate to destroy your large bubbles so that we could leave system. We didnt even log at a safe spot. Thanks for the log off comments bud.
CCP nerfed my sig..but this one has my name in it
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LordChaos
Amarr Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.03.05 17:49:00 -
[313]
Originally by: Mindlles
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: whisk Your boards are up to date? Oh i'm sorry i seem to have forgotten that you posted your titan loss mail.
yeah ok  Someone else mentioned that and it got snipped by Ivan. I think the reason its not there is because it wasn't lost in combat...but I dont know.
With someone posting a reminder everyday its not like we are going to forget  Its one Titan, you can keep count in your head without a killboard 
So let me see if i understand u right, as u lost ur titan when it was logged off, its not a proper kill, or do not need to be posted as it was logged off?
So that means, all does kills toxin got on d2 on players thta logged off in a way to attapmt to save their ships, schould not be posted???
Did i get it right Flinx Evenstar?
but he didnt log off to avoid combat was a very low way to get a kill and u know that.
say hi to Welsh and beggs for me :)
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.05 18:14:00 -
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Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 05/03/2007 18:15:16 Since you are so hung up on kill mails...I checked for you...took me 2 seconds
Asgard Schiffswerften - 2007.02.08 19:20:00
Have a look at his employment history....see if you can work out why some people would have a history like that..
now have a good day 
Edit..odd the post I was referring to has been deleted. Anyways...back to pew pew for me. Forum spamming over 07
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Xeliya
Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.03.05 18:31:00 -
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Edited by: Xeliya on 05/03/2007 18:28:45
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Vasili Z But hey, brag about their war when yours isn't going so well, and just because something was replaced, doesn't make it any less of a defeat, especially when it's a titan.
not going well...hmm
D2 alliance stats in Fountain Campaign Battleship 281 Killed 91 Lost
Or do you mean "yours" as in my war...well thats going even better 
Momentum Stats in Fountain Campaign Totals: 258 kills 52085.37M 59 Losses 2139.23M Efficiency: 96.05%
These killboards are linked to the feed syndicate, but I'm sure you'd just want to take the word of Molle that we are all dead 
Which is why your KB should never be refferanced, most of our kills on D2 have only come up after the feed gets updated. BoB's KB and many others like Xelas and FIX is not apart of that feed. ----------
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.05 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Xeliya Which is why your KB should never be refferanced, most of our kills on D2 have only come up after the feed gets updated. BoB's KB and many others like Xelas and FIX is not apart of that feed.
Dont worry..I learnt my lesson. Kill boards should never be referenced, it just causes a whole bunch of arguing 
CCP nerfed my sig..but this one has my name in it
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Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.05 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Xeliya Which is why your KB should never be refferanced, most of our kills on D2 have only come up after the feed gets updated. BoB's KB and many others like Xelas and FIX is not apart of that feed.
Dont worry..I learnt my lesson. Kill boards should never be referenced, it just causes a whole bunch of arguing 
Especially when your "feed" fails to disclose these losses from 3-F in the described "server down" situation?
Type - Kills - Losses BS - 28 - 1 BC - 8 - 0 CS - 1 - 0 HAC - 1 - 0 AF - 0 - 1 Cru - 15 - 3 Recon - 1 - 0 Ceptor - 4 - 3 Dictor - 0 - 2 Frigs - 7 - 1
Much like everyone else it appears your coalition fails to post it's losses for whatever reason.
Respect to Molle for a factual report.
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Tunajuice
Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.05 21:45:00 -
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Hum FIX killboard guys said it was fixed to sync with everyone else.. I haven't really looked into it.. but in theory it should sync losses our members don't post. In any case, it is not some evil FIX plan not to sync our killboard.
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Mahrin Skel
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.06 00:23:00 -
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In a fight like this, with so many different participants, the drawbacks of using killboards as a measure of success really shows. Let's say that Alliance X and Alliance Y are cooperating in a battle, they kill 100 ships of the enemy force and lose 50 each, and all killmails are posted. But they have different killboards, and both alliances probably have ships on every enemy killmail. Since they are probably crossposting their kills, they each show 100 kills, but probably only 50 losses. Both "honestly" show a 2 to 1 kill ratio, even though the reality was an even trade.
As for "FIX chest-thumping". I certainly never claimed that FIX was going to be able to stand alone against the kinds of numbers this war is seeing, no single alliance could (if a fleet of 400 showed up in IRON or FLA space, how long would you hold out without help? Would you define success as "not getting beat like a drum"?). That we held as well as we did against such an extreme numbers disparity *is* an accomplishment, about as much as any alliance operating alone could hope for in this new era.
As for the IRON visit around the turn of the new year: Thank you for the training, I doubt FIX would have been nearly as prepared for this human wave assault without that tempering of our new pilots.
Let's be frank here: FIX is risen from the dead. We've been treated with contempt by foes and former friends alike, written off and labelled as "BoB lapdogs". Every day that FIX lives is a raised middle finger in the direction of those who have tried to kill us. Yet again, FIX has been dogpiled by those who feel that over-whelming numbers grants them the right to act like swaggering bullies, and yet again, we have pulled ourselves out of the pile, blown a raspberry at our enemies, and gotten on with things.
FIX may or may not survive this war, and certainly our fate is tied to BoB's almost inseparably, I don't see any likely scenarios where BoB dies and FIX survives in Querious. So if you want to show us contempt for seeing the handwriting on the wall and once again preparing to take a beating, so be it. We'd rather be losers than quitters, if the tides of war are going to wash us away, so be it, we'll go down proud and swinging, as we have before. Kill us if you will, but don't lower yourself by getting petulant over our refusal to just roll over.
--Dave
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Kaaii
Caldari Equilibrium LLC United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2007.03.06 00:44:00 -
[320]
Edited by: Kaaii on 06/03/2007 00:41:02
"Id rather fall beside 10 lions, then "nap" with 10,000 sheep..."
Trading 101 Kaaii-Net Research Labs
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Fear Not
Veni Vidi Dormivi
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Posted - 2007.03.06 00:47:00 -
[321]
Originally by: Kaaii "Id rather fall beside 10 lions, then "nap" with 10,000 sheep..."
^that.
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Franky B
Mentally Unstable Enterprises Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.06 01:20:00 -
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You do realise that 10 000 sheep would be on a property protected by angry farmers with shotguns, helicopters, dogs and money?
I'll take the lamb thanks.
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Dragerest
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.06 01:52:00 -
[323]
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.06 02:02:00 -
[324]
A Molle thread that didn't made me spit with rage at the injustices of it all- thats an achievement for the history books 
Of course, the war hasn't really started for BoB yet. Most of the coalition (including most of the north) are down south finishing off LV, and aside from a quick bout of station ping pong, Fountain has mostly been just skirmishing and general combat, rather than "OMGBBQ INVASION".
By which I mean to say that I don't think the war is in it's "second phase" yet; Phase One appears to be the LV BBQ, so Phase Two will be the war on BoB, proper. Getting close, but still a teensy bit premature. --------
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searchi
tiberian suns
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Posted - 2007.03.06 02:26:00 -
[325]
first phase was in the east lv being defeated for the moment and losing its stations. in the west the initial assaults by the northern forces were repelled.
there are signs of a counter atack. targets might be catch (remnants of lv being in jumprange from stain, bob from querious) or the atm undefended north. i suggest to look at theese options when deciding fleetmovements
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.03.06 03:29:00 -
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I still have to ask, will there actually be any fighting, or will there be coalition blobs so large than the nodes will crash if a BoB fleet tries to intercept?
Or more importantly, who will buckle first while looking at all the space that is undefended while the coalition moves into Delve? All it would take is one of the major alliances to stab the coalition in the back for the tides to turn drastically imo.
Or maybe BoB will get hit in half a dozen systems at all times and be forced to pick and choose what to protect. Time will tell, just get the rest of us some good fraps plz.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.06 03:54:00 -
[327]
Originally by: Kaaii Edited by: Kaaii on 06/03/2007 00:41:02
"Id rather fall beside 10 lions,
and you will 
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searchi
tiberian suns
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Posted - 2007.03.06 04:04:00 -
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under pressure bob would recruit surely an alliance which doesnt like the north too much because of the past and is located nicely. giving them the oportunity to strike when the northern forces are engaged in fountain and querious. i guess the likely candidates are known to the relevant persons.
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Darken Two
Gallente Hybonashi Industries Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.03.06 04:11:00 -
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Originally by: searchi under pressure bob would recruit surely an alliance which doesnt like the north too much because of the past and is located nicely. giving them the oportunity to strike when the northern forces are engaged in fountain and querious. i guess the likely candidates are known to the relevant persons.
OMG Quit with your alttastic strategies about how various alliances should conduct their wars. You are about as insignificant as the alt you're posting with.
Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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DeadDuck
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.06 08:27:00 -
[330]
Well the report can now be 100% accurate if we add to Molles post this one :
47 days
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Plan Neun
Caldari Ganja Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.03.06 11:11:00 -
[331]
And as usual a report full of holes. But then again, propaganda from BoB is not worth much as a report of what realy happened.
"I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
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Proxay
Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.06 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Kaaii Edited by: Kaaii on 06/03/2007 00:41:02
"Id rather fall beside 10 lions,
and you will 
do you really want to see bob in guriella mode?
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McGin
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.06 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: Lireil Crow Edited by: Lireil Crow on 03/03/2007 19:50:53 Edited by: Lireil Crow on 03/03/2007 19:50:28 SirMolle, why dont you drop the crap and tell the good people of eve what is relly happing.
Your Lines are falling. Your Toops are out of isk. Your Dev friends may still be helping you but not for lone, or they will lose there jobs. Your titans are going to be the first to be lost in a fight, because the way you use them. Your DD's arnt working anymore, you have to use both of them at the same time to even get any kills anymore. Your aliies are bracking. Your hiding in NPC startions in Delve. Your hiding when ever your caps or titans are ready to fight.
We are taking your station We are killing your pos's we are killing your allies (oh thanks for all the good loot, I enjoy killing you)
and most of all
We are killing you.
So why don't you stop all the BS and tell people how you are relly doing, you even as low as you have to fill your post up with your "wanna be, bob" allies.
lol there's always one that makes u laff thank's for making my day 
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The Hooch
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.06 13:57:00 -
[334]
Gotta love spin...<S> to Molle for a good one.
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