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Seamus OReilly
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Posted - 2007.03.05 20:21:00 -
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Hi all. I keep seeing this phrase - check local - on tips for guaging the danger of a system, I don't really understand it. Do they mean in the chat window? It doesn't show any information that would help determine threat level from what I can see.
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Damien Smith
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.03.05 20:24:00 -
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Right click - show info. Someone with low sec status or with a bounty is probably looking to eat your brains.
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Simon Jax
Gallente
Freedom Guard
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.05 20:25:00 -
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The Local chat window shows everyone who is in the system. It will also show you their standing towards you, your corp or your alliance if it's set at anything other than 0.0. It'll show you a little blue plus if they're considered "friendly" or a little red minus if they're "hostile". It'll also show you whether or not you're at war with them.
Plus, you can "show info" on any pilot in local. So if they don't have negative standings (hostile) but look to be a pirate you can set their standings yourself so that next time you see that pilot you immediately know that they are a risk.
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Seamus OReilly
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Posted - 2007.03.05 20:53:00 -
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Okay, so you basically need to scroll through everyone, and only the people you've interacted with and set your standing towards will show any kind of tag? It's no help against some anonymous malicious ganker, but will id anyone who might have a grudge against you?
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Alan Nala
Caldari
Emerald Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.05 21:07:00 -
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 Originally by: Seamus OReilly
Okay, so you basically need to scroll through everyone, and only the people you've interacted with and set your standing towards will show any kind of tag? It's no help against some anonymous malicious ganker, but will id anyone who might have a grudge against you?
It's not necessarily just the people you've interacted with; people with low concord standings (pirates) will have a yellow or red skull next to their name. So, if you're in low sec space (0.1 - 0.4) and you see someone in local chat with that skull, it might be a good idea to watch out for them and be careful.
To see all the icons that can show up next to people's names, right click on the triangle next to word 'overview' and choose 'overview settings'. There's a tab in there that shows all the little icons that pop up next to people's names and what they mean.
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Damien Smith
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.03.05 21:12:00 -
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Edited by: Damien Smith on 05/03/2007 21:08:27
Originally by: Alan Nala
It's not necessarily just the people you've interacted with; people with low concord standings (pirates) will have a yellow or red skull next to their name.
That's not true. Anyone currently under a global criminal countdown or flagged to you will have a red skull by their name in local, but local doesn't show anything indicating sec status at all.
What you can do though is set all the local pirate corps to negative standing just so you spot them easier.
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Seamus OReilly
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Posted - 2007.03.05 21:28:00 -
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Alan, you're talking about the Overview, which I understand how to use. And I think it's range is limited (?) compared to local chat, which shows the entire system.
Or does chat show the same settings as the overview?
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Letouk Mernel
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Posted - 2007.03.05 22:10:00 -
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No, the chat window for the Local channel doesn't have the same settings as the Overview. It was designed for chatting, but it has certain features that people take advantage of, in order to detect possible hostiles.
What you do is you click on the button in the Local chat window so that the picture (or the !) of everyone is listed. Then you go down the list, and for each person you right-click and show info.
When the information window for each pilot appears, you read it, trying to determine the answer to the following questions:
1. Does this person have bad security standing (and thus, is possibly a pirate, or at least an active PVP'er)? Do they have a bounty on their head?
2. Looking at this person's employment history, is he or has he ever been part of a corporation or alliance that is into piracy, or looks like it is set up as a mercenary unit, rather than a peaceful mining operation?
3. Does this person's Bio description, if they have one, indicate violent tendencies?
4. Are there multiple people from the same corporation or alliance in the system? Did they all come in at the same time? Are they new, or have you seen them before in this area of space?
That's checking the local. You're trying to figure out, from the list of people in the local system, how many will possibly attack you. Obviously, anyone with low security, especially if it's below -2.0, could be a risk.
The reason why people are saying "check the local" is because if you don't, and the pirates manage to scan you out and warp to you, it is likely that you won't be able to react fast enough to escape. By "checking the local", you can potentially see a bunch of known pirates entering the system, and can immediately go dock at a station / run away, before they actually get a chance to attack you.
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Seamus OReilly
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Posted - 2007.03.05 23:00:00 -
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That's what I thought. Seems extremely time consuming, but maybe the low-sec systems aren't as populated as the 1.0.
Thanks for the replies.
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Mekrunt
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Posted - 2007.03.05 23:35:00 -
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Edited by: Mekrunt on 05/03/2007 23:32:01
Low sec is where it's needed, since (unless you're in a war with an alliance) you most likely won't be harmed in high sec, and any pirate with a low sec status can't enter high sec space eihter.
So yeah, only in <0.4, where there usualy aren't too many people.
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Seiji Oki
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Posted - 2007.03.06 08:47:00 -
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It's really only time consuming the first time into a region. After the first few forays, you only need to really look at people that are a !. Everyone else should be set appropriately, and low sec space isn't that crowded.
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.06 08:58:00 -
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A word to the wise.
Dont monkey about too much with your PERSONAL standings. This may later produce a conflict of interest if you are in a corp whose standings differ from yours.
The best way to do it is to simply add known hostiles to your address book. A green light in local means you can recognise enemy pilots easily.
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