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Trinity Faetal Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.06 17:00:00 - [31] Edited by: Trinity Faetal on 06/03/2007 16:57:04 when the fat lady gets rdy to sing, delve will be surrounded from all 3 sides by 3000 people whinging about lag and bob sitting in nol with whatever they have . then the dev will decide to close eve and go work for the creators of potbs -- Enjoy The Silence
Lord XSiV Amarr The Nine Gates	Posted - 2007.03.06 17:34:00 - [32] I kind of liked it better when bob guys were posting on forums. Rubbish like this was quickly refuted, disproven with in game actions and the op was sent packing with tail between legs. If you honestly think that just because lv went down after a long extended campaign that bob will do that same, you are sadly mistaken. In fact, your immense short sightedness and failure to comprehend basic strategy is glaringly obvious. From what I have seen (and is generally accepted by the community), bob is made up of very good players. Their opponents on the other hand are nothing more than riff raff. As has been proven time and time again, riff raff has no chance when taking on skilled individuals. It is the amateur versus professional argument. So essentially what you are dealing with is a pickup league of softball players taking on the Yankees.... Goonswarm fails in comparison to that of ASCN which was really only handled by maybe 100 or so bob members at any given time. Goon may have numbers, but that has proven a mute point with the exception of crashing nodes. Take into account that now they have to defend space, which by the way they have proven to fail miserably at, makes it more likely that they won't succeed at anything. d2 is just a weaker ASCN as what was pointed out earlier. CA is nothing wihtout the Goon meatshield. AAA is onboard for survival and will flip once it is obviously going their way. (this is no slight on AAA, well at least the original element. They should have thought about absorbing the former ASCN elements however as that excess baggage will be their downfall) Then you have the bandwagon effect. On both sides of the fence. Sure this 'coalition' has a lot of members but when you are dealing with low quality, well you end up with a lot of low quality. Bob on the otherhand attracts the better quality players and will continue to do so. Afterall, anyone who has decent skills wants to be able to play with players of the same calibre, not a bunch of whiners. Once you come to the realization that bob is good at Eve because they know how to play the game it all becomes perfectly clear. Naysayers and losers would like to have everyone believe that bob uses cheats, hax, exploits, etc but the reality is that bob just plays better. They are smarter, more mature and far more disciplined than the other groups that are opposing them. End of story. Truth hurts. Thanks for coming out. Take your pick.
Laythun Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.06 17:39:00 - [33] Originally by: Lord XSiV AAA is onboard for survival and will flip once it is obviously going their way. (this is no slight on AAA, well at least the original element. They should have thought about absorbing the former ASCN elements however as that excess baggage will be their downfall) I beg your pardon? 'onboard for survival' survival against whom? is someone killing us? are we being crushed uder some imaginary force? what are you talking about man? 'Absorbing former ASCN elements' what on earth are you babbling on about now? ASCN elements are in thier own corps...dude heres a free [clue] Black Lance Brother
Sean Dillon Caldari LEGI0N	Posted - 2007.03.06 17:45:00 - [34] What do people do when they run out of enemy's? Allies turn on eachother and make new enemy's.
Laythun Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.06 17:46:00 - [35] Originally by: Sean Dillon What do people do when they run out of enemy's? Allies turn on eachother and make new enemy's. As Elton John so eloquently put it.. In the circle of life It's the wheel of fortune It's the leap of faith It's the band of hope Till we find our place On the path unwinding In the circle, the circle of life Black Lance Brother
Dragerest Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.06 17:56:00 - [36] Edited by: Dragerest on 06/03/2007 17:53:51 Originally by: Tarace CEO Originally by: Dragerest bob have to many NPC station around there space. they will just hind in there until people get bored and go home. doesn't matter if you take down all there POS's there is just to many NPC station for them to live in. Or maybe they will go north and get you out from there There is a lot of possibilites and only bob leadership know witch options they have/select. Anyways, GL to all and have a great fun. /Tarace Out fan boi? the truth is they have to many NPC station is bob's space.. thats a fact. all you said was.. i hope bob win do i don't get kicked out to bad bob are paying as many people they can to invade d2. i hope you are coming up.
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2007.03.06 17:59:00 - [37] Originally by: Lord XSiV ...Sure this 'coalition' has a lot of members but when you are dealing with low quality, well you end up with a lot of low quality. Bob on the otherhand attracts the better quality players and will continue to do so... Mr. XSiV, your statement is a slap in the face for LV. You are indirectly saying they were beaten by unqualified players, making LV look very bad indeed. Fortunatly the truth is that there are a lot of 'quality' players in EVE. On both sides in the war, as well as in unrelated alliances and corps. You realy need to get a better understanding of EVE, so you do not post such nonsense anymore. It makes you look foolish. Best of luck in getting some insight, VV EVE War I - Quick Overview
Xade Caldari K.T.P	Posted - 2007.03.06 18:22:00 - [38] Originally by: Victor Vision Originally by: Lord XSiV ...Sure this 'coalition' has a lot of members but when you are dealing with low quality, well you end up with a lot of low quality. Bob on the otherhand attracts the better quality players and will continue to do so... Mr. XSiV, your statement is a slap in the face for LV. You are indirectly saying they were beaten by unqualified players, making LV look very bad indeed. Fortunatly the truth is that there are a lot of 'quality' players in EVE. On both sides in the war, as well as in unrelated alliances and corps. You realy need to get a better understanding of EVE, so you do not post such nonsense anymore. It makes you look foolish. Best of luck in getting some insight, VV Lv were beaten by numbers this won't be the case for BoB if al the alliances that attacked LV go to attack BoB they will leaave all their space unprotected and it won't be at arms length to defend. LV unfortunatley had all the alliances against it convienintly on its borders making it very hard for it to defend its space but they did it for months none the less and against 5 times its own member count. BoB will win the good fight and LV members should continue to stand proud because they fought with amazing courage against the odds. The BoB/LV*****tail is the best out there don't doubt it - fear it!!
Dragerest Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.06 18:30:00 - [39] noone remembers the RA vs. everyone for how many months?
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.03.06 18:32:00 - [40] Originally by: Dragerest bob have to many NPC station around there space. they will just hind in there until people get bored and go home. doesn't matter if you take down all there POS's there is just to many NPC station for them to live in. Yes, if the fighting gets boring everyone will move back home and... mining? _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
defektiv Domestic Reform	Posted - 2007.03.06 18:36:00 - [41] Originally by: Victor Vision Mr. XSiV, your statement is a slap in the face for LV. You are indirectly saying they were beaten by unqualified players, making LV look very bad indeed. Fortunatly the truth is that there are a lot of 'quality' players in EVE. On both sides in the war, as well as in unrelated alliances and corps. You realy need to get a better understanding of EVE, so you do not post such nonsense anymore. It makes you look foolish. Best of luck in getting some insight, VV quantity /= quality. and if you've played video games for any amount of time, you'd know that a zerg force invalidates your theory in many cases. until they resolve the node crashes, the game will remain in favor of those who can field the most number of people. and for organizations that recruit people by telling them that they can come destroy assets of people who take video games too seriously (aka griefers), this is good news. but they should all remember an important message they are so quick to preach. you reap what you sow. ----- ..I think it's time, for a little bit of change.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.06 18:39:00 - [42] Originally by: Sean Dillon What do people do when they run out of enemy's? Allies turn on eachother and make new enemy's. Well doy. This is a game, you know. If (or when ) BoB has been snuffed out, the coalition will break back into its constituent parts, and the general hustle-bustle of 0.0 politics will resume, with wars, deals, residencies and economic wrangling once again taking the front seat. No-one in the coalition assumes for even a moment that a post-BoB EVE will be a peaceful utopia, nor do they want it. The same thing goes for BoB, too. Utopias in a PvP game does not smell like fun. --------
Tarace CEO Caldari ME15	Posted - 2007.03.06 18:47:00 - [43] Originally by: Dragerest Edited by: Dragerest on 06/03/2007 17:53:51 Originally by: Tarace CEO Originally by: Dragerest bob have to many NPC station around there space. they will just hind in there until people get bored and go home. doesn't matter if you take down all there POS's there is just to many NPC station for them to live in. Or maybe they will go north and get you out from there There is a lot of possibilites and only bob leadership know witch options they have/select. Anyways, GL to all and have a great fun. /Tarace Out fan boi? the truth is they have to many NPC station is bob's space.. thats a fact. all you said was.. i hope bob win do i don't get kicked out to bad bob are paying as many people they can to invade d2. i hope you are coming up. I'm absolutly not a bob fanboi. In fact, I've been at war against them not long ago... I just pointed some facts that didnt deserve an unmature answer from you, I only said that noone knows how this will end
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2007.03.06 18:47:00 - [44] Originally by: Xade Lv were beaten by numbers this won't be the case for BoB if al the alliances that attacked LV go to attack BoB they will leaave all their space unprotected and it won't be at arms length to defend. The Northern Coalition is currently attacking BoB space, keeping BoB entertained while the Southern Coalition lays some finishing touches to the conquered regions. Then the next phase of the war is likely to proceed. Originally by: Xade BoB will win the ... fight... It remains to be seen how well BoB will do in the future. Currently the situation against the Northern Coalition looks like a deadlock. Additional forces attacking BoB, like for example the Southern Coalition, could very well result in a highly problematic situation for BoB. EVE War I - Quick Overview
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2007.03.06 18:50:00 - [45] Originally by: defektiv Originally by: Victor Vision Mr. XSiV, your statement is a slap in the face for LV. You are indirectly saying they were beaten by unqualified players, making LV look very bad indeed. Fortunatly the truth is that there are a lot of 'quality' players in EVE. On both sides in the war, as well as in unrelated alliances and corps. You realy need to get a better understanding of EVE, so you do not post such nonsense anymore. It makes you look foolish. Best of luck in getting some insight, VV quantity /= quality... True. Quantity is not equal to quality. But quantity can include quality. EVE War I - Quick Overview
Dragerest Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.06 18:57:00 - [46] Originally by: Tarace CEO Originally by: Dragerest Edited by: Dragerest on 06/03/2007 17:53:51 Originally by: Tarace CEO Originally by: Dragerest bob have to many NPC station around there space. they will just hind in there until people get bored and go home. doesn't matter if you take down all there POS's there is just to many NPC station for them to live in. Or maybe they will go north and get you out from there There is a lot of possibilites and only bob leadership know witch options they have/select. Anyways, GL to all and have a great fun. /Tarace Out fan boi? the truth is they have to many NPC station is bob's space.. thats a fact. all you said was.. i hope bob win do i don't get kicked out to bad bob are paying as many people they can to invade d2. i hope you are coming up. I'm absolutly not a bob fanboi. In fact, I've been at war against them not long ago... I just pointed some facts that didnt deserve an unmature answer from you, I only said that noone knows how this will end e-thugs i love them. you are sooooo cool i hope i get younger so i can be like you. thank you for pointing out all this "facts" of yours you are a true fan boi. sure you fight. just alittel so if they win you are OMG ididn't hurt you please let me join you.. and fighting agiast them just enought where you can say .."hey i fought against them where is my share". stop riding the middle ground... i just started to fight them BS. and please you grow up..pick a side and go with it.
Dirtball Kemono. Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.06 19:03:00 - [47] Originally by: bulabuba and the fact that lag and node crashes allow huge numbers to trump what ought to be the the most powerful fleets in the game. [/quote History lesson, look at ec-p and when it was taken from trust by 600-700 pilots without a node crash, but devs telling people to withdraw the bs from shooting the pos as it was going to crash the node. Anyone who sides with bob and complains about blobs needs to look directly at ec-p and the precedent they set over a year ago then stfu.
malet Quam Singulari	Posted - 2007.03.06 19:14:00 - [48] I want to see how RAGOON etc will hold tenerifis. Quam left LV for its own reasons. Nothing to do with not being able to hack it ( so freeloaders and bandwagon riders dont even start the smack ). Sure we done some pirating :P We did! but small gank sqauds is something RAGOON will never be able to defend against. Watch your miners and ratters coz your gonna get QUAMMED. Alot of people have smacked us for pirating, well its called chilling out and relaxing after a long drawn out campaign so if your died well all i can say is get a scout next time:P Total respect for RA for the frulegur battle last week with the capitals and all what great fun. EMPIRES RISE AND EMPIRES FALL. N00BS JUST GET POPPED. Unfortunaltey RA have allied with the lowest skilled pilots in the game. Thinking BOB is done for is the worst under estimation i have ever heard. Curse Alliance is just a scourge on the true CA. Flying under the great name with a bunch of noobs why????? So if your + to the coalition prepare to get QUAMMED. BOB & LV 4TW. Fan Mail from Frank West ( EX shinra ) 2007.03.04 16:17 You Guys are just as PAthetic lol This is going on my forums and every Forum i can find oh wait i allready posted it here is a reply Sulgerd- Wow, Those -LV- must be losing if there attacking anyone, Oh Wait Quam is not -LV- any more they could not handle it... lol Crypto- Indeed, Quam are the lowlifes of EVE To Bad I own them about ever yday with my Dread in Konora lol it is funney watching them pop Arcon- Ahahahahaha Man Frank if they keep bothering you convo me in EVE and I will mess them up my corp has over 1k of members I think they would like a Nice little War Dec don't you think? Frank West- Go ahead I am about to join the Rampage Alliance they are going to War Dec them allready lol this will be fun chasing Quam around in 50 Dreads Wheres these dreads? We have never been killed by dreads in konora.. RAMPAGE eteranl want to war dec us. Woohoo Bring it on - more targets for us to shoot!!! Frank youre just sore coz we ganked you ratting in a 0.4. Your going up in the world there. So if your wanna war dec us then bring it
malet Quam Singulari	Posted - 2007.03.06 19:17:00 - [49] Originally by: malet I want to see how RAGOON etc will hold tenerifis. Quam left LV for its own reasons. Nothing to do with not being able to hack it ( so freeloaders and bandwagon riders dont even start the smack ). Sure we done some pirating :P We did! but small gank sqauds is something RAGOON will never be able to defend against. Watch your miners and ratters coz your gonna get QUAMMED. Alot of people have smacked us for pirating, well its called chilling out and relaxing after a long drawn out campaign so if your died well all i can say is get a scout next time:P Total respect for RA for the frulegur battle last week with the capitals and all what great fun. EMPIRES RISE AND EMPIRES FALL. N00BS JUST GET POPPED. Unfortunaltey RA have allied with the lowest skilled pilots in the game. Thinking BOB is done for is the worst under estimation i have ever heard. Curse Alliance is just a scourge on the true CA. Flying under the great name with a bunch of noobs why????? So if your + to the coalition prepare to get QUAMMED. BOB & LV 4TW. Fan Mail from Frank West ( EX shinra ) 2007.03.04 16:17 You Guys are just as PAthetic lol This is going on my forums and every Forum i can find oh wait i allready posted it here is a reply Sulgerd- Wow, Those -LV- must be losing if there attacking anyone, Oh Wait Quam is not -LV- any more they could not handle it... lol Crypto- Indeed, Quam are the lowlifes of EVE To Bad I own them about ever yday with my Dread in Konora lol it is funney watching them pop Arcon- Ahahahahaha Man Frank if they keep bothering you convo me in EVE and I will mess them up my corp has over 1k of members I think they would like a Nice little War Dec don't you think? Frank West- Go ahead I am about to join the Rampage Alliance they are going to War Dec them allready lol this will be fun chasing Quam around in 50 Dreads Wheres these dreads? We have never been killed by dreads in konora.. RAMPAGE eteranl want to war dec us. Woohoo Bring it on - more targets for us to shoot!!! Frank youre just sore coz we ganked you ratting in a 0.4. Your going up in the world there. So if your wanna war dec us then bring it & crpto give me linkage to the dread kills you are full of %^&t and you know it.
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.06 19:21:00 - [50] Edited by: welsh wizard on 06/03/2007 19:17:53 Originally by: Lord XSiV ... yada... Except now you've just turned the whole concept of 'underestimating an opponent' on its arse. BoB aren't invulnerable and the only thing they proved on here is that constant posting insisting that they're right makes short sighted people believe them. They're damn good, probably the best in terms of playing the Eve end-game but they're not as godlike as you'd like to believe. BoB are not infallible.
Dragerest Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.06 19:31:00 - [51] Malet you post made me laugh. you said "Quam left LV for its own reasons. Nothing to do with not being able to hack it" but than you say " well its called chilling out and relaxing after a long drawn out campaign " you said "your gonna get QUAMMED." but you are going to "quammed" those miners your words "Watch your miners and ratters coz your gonna get QUAMMED. " hope those hulks don't put up to big of a fight. beat your chest over those miners they are a worthy target. But i think you already told of the real reason you left LV.
niroshido Caldari Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.06 19:35:00 - [52] the defencive game is always a game about how long can u survive, the offencive game is about how many more assaults before the enemy just dies from a heart attack 1: LV has been fighting RA in a war of attrition for over 10 months now, so yes i assume LV would have been pretty drawn out, especially through the use of what we call 'cowardly strategies' (im not going to draw out that part anymore cause well, its all been said b4) 2: BOB have not experienced RA POS spamming like those who lived around RA, its a very tense inviroment and tbh POS warfare makes me shudder, due to the monsterous lag, the several days of trying to maintain 1 POS whilst keeping access points open, BOB are more offensive than dealing with extended and drawn out POS warfare scenarios my opinion on how RAGOON is succeeding as well as they are: RA are vets, GOON are pets, fortunatly for RA goon come in numbers, well i think there name best discribes it they are a swarm of bees, no matter how much hand thrashing u try, 1 bee at least will manage to sting u, and well the numbers are staggering. So far i believe LV have turned alot more defencive, trying to fortify positions of attack, and are not working as closely with there allies, they need to focus more on working together to achieve there goals i personally have a strategy, but this isnt open source, i share it with few and has a few requirements to achieve what they need anyways LV and BOB need to start working together or else they will loose this (yes there is fight left in them) BTW i know consider this the war of colitions (in eve i believe its the first time that real coalition fronts have been seen, before it was indivual alliances, now the we have a half way line with alliances from all over EVE taking sides)
malet Quam Singulari	Posted - 2007.03.06 19:44:00 - [53] Originally by: Dragerest Malet you post made me laugh. you said "Quam left LV for its own reasons. Nothing to do with not being able to hack it" but than you say " well its called chilling out and relaxing after a long drawn out campaign " you said "your gonna get QUAMMED." but you are going to "quammed" those miners your words "Watch your miners and ratters coz your gonna get QUAMMED. " hope those hulks don't put up to big of a fight. beat your chest over those miners they are a worthy target. But i think you already told of the real reason you left LV. We dont just go for miners lol. God damn i like your signature though :-)
Dragerest Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.06 19:58:00 - [54] was that quoted for truth?
Ewa Quillam Caldari mega mining corporation Astral Wolves	Posted - 2007.03.06 19:59:00 - [55] I see a lot of people talking about BoB being hardcore PvPers, yet I still don't see the same rampage-multikill that took place during the ASCN war... with days of 70-100 kills. Their killboard is flourished when some DD activates, but even that has stopped lately. A peek of 54 dreads, 5 MS and 2 titans is more harcore mining than anything else. I sense some softening and it might be because some of them don't like what they are getting.
Herculite Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.06 21:08:00 - [56] Originally by: Ewa Quillam I see a lot of people talking about BoB being hardcore PvPers, yet I still don't see the same rampage-multikill that took place during the ASCN war... with days of 70-100 kills. Their killboard is flourished when some DD activates, but even that has stopped lately. A peek of 54 dreads, 5 MS and 2 titans is more harcore mining than anything else. I sense some softening and it might be because some of them don't like what they are getting. You mean like the day with 6 dread kills followed shortly by 9 more? I sense some silliness BoB hasn't been faced with the numbers ASCN fielded to even kill yet.
Ewa Quillam Caldari mega mining corporation Astral Wolves	Posted - 2007.03.06 21:52:00 - [57] Originally by: Herculite Originally by: Ewa Quillam I see a lot of people talking about BoB being hardcore PvPers, yet I still don't see the same rampage-multikill that took place during the ASCN war... with days of 70-100 kills. Their killboard is flourished when some DD activates, but even that has stopped lately. A peek of 54 dreads, 5 MS and 2 titans is more harcore mining than anything else. I sense some softening and it might be because some of them don't like what they are getting. You mean like the day with 6 dread kills followed shortly by 9 more? I sense some silliness BoB hasn't been faced with the numbers ASCN fielded to even kill yet. I seriously sense the stupidity when I see the Northern Coalition KBs having tens of BoB pets killed daily and while FIX are at high rank amongst those, I see very few BoB . Why are you talking about numbers, I thought the hardcore PvPers are going more about finesse that "blobing"? Btw, the north dudes say "peanuts", not dreads.
Frantico Swedish Aerospace Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.06 21:56:00 - [58] me thinks of something a very whise man once said back when goons where in s-u " compared to a goon were elite uber marines with machine guns and there pegg leggd boys with sticks and stones" worst thigns that happens is that you run out of ammo in this case theya re attacking bob space so in otherwrods they just need to dock up and get more =) Yes i cant spell.....
Swift Wind 6rasshopper Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.06 22:01:00 - [59] Originally by: Humongo Ridiculously premature. Was thinking exactly that.... Anywhere, Anytime.
Franga Caldari NQX Logistics	Posted - 2007.03.06 22:10:00 - [60] Originally by: Dirtball Originally by: bulabuba and the fact that lag and node crashes allow huge numbers to trump what ought to be the the most powerful fleets in the game. [/quote History lesson, look at ec-p and when it was taken from trust by 600-700 pilots without a node crash, but devs telling people to withdraw the bs from shooting the pos as it was going to crash the node. Anyone who sides with bob and complains about blobs needs to look directly at ec-p and the precedent they set over a year ago then stfu. Are you a 'Painball' alt? And Yay! for a non-pro-BoB post from Privateer! _____________________________ Eldo spanked my sig but I can't be bothered changing it just now.

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