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Babakartal Thiesant The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.07.06 22:49:58 - [1] - Quote this, please see the picture http://i.imgur.com/bHSfCk6.jpg Since June Release 118.6 has been deployed, if you want to start the game or in the game; if you want to dock in any Gallente station, there's a Dynamic camera view; you ship comes slowly in the middle of the station and stays in front of this huge Cross which is the symbol of Christianity and it really looks like the ship is praying! Why a cross? or why not Allah? Why not any other almost 7000 Gods or that much religions? Guys, I know some of you are going to answer this topic as: Hey dude, you can shut down the Dynamic Camera from your settings!! But dude, this is not the solution and this is not even the thing, what I'm talking about! I wrote something about this to the support. The answer is: that they're using such orthogonal shapes and forms for the developing of the station structure; what I see there has nothing to do with christianity and it's not a cross! c'moon :) We're not children! I'm an atheist. And I just don't want to be involved such things in a game; in a game like EvE Online! I always played EvE. EvE made me happy, such a beautiful game! Everything was perfect; since I see this unnecessary detail! I really don't understand whay do ccp had to do such a thing! How pitty that is! As I said; I', just quitting EvE and cancelling my account. And you guys know; why. good bye!
May Arethusa The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 160	Posted - 2016.07.06 22:51:56 - [2] - Quote Some people try too hard to be offended.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 16653	Posted - 2016.07.06 22:57:12 - [3] - Quote Im keenly aware this is a long shot but Can i have your stuff? Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Warrior AgainstEvil Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2016.07.06 22:59:15 - [4] - Quote I can't tell. Is he serious or is he special?
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 8255	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:00:38 - [5] - Quote As a fellow atheist, this is an outrage! Even the name of the game.. You know who also created EVE according to Christian mythology? Gÿ+ The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper: 'Hodor'.
Babakartal Thiesant The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:01:23 - [6] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Im keenly aware this is a long shot but Can i have your stuff? I'm sorry but no! I don't want to support anything about EvE anymore. I'm going to cancel my account and all my stuff is going to be dissapeared.
Cara Forelli Meticulously Indifferent 1910	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:01:25 - [7] - Quote This is why legitimate complaints get ignored. Goodbye, and don't let the cross hit you on the way out. Want to talk? Join my channel in game: *House Forelli* Titan's Lament
Leo Seti Vita. 4	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:02:10 - [8] - Quote I'm an atheist to, but I don't let random shapes offend me.
Babakartal Thiesant The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:06:36 - [9] - Quote Doc Fury wrote: As a fellow atheist, this is an outrage! Even the name of the game.. You know who also created EVE according to Christian mythology? The name is something else bro. Has no the same effect! While you're playing, in a few months you'll even forget about the name of the game! But if you'll dock in a station and always see your ship is praying in front of a futuristic cross and constrained this religious propaganda .... This is not acceptable for me.
Daemun Khanid Kameiran Order Team Amarrica 581	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:06:51 - [10] - Quote The troll is strong with this one. Oh, IB4L Daemun of Khanid

Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 16653	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:07:26 - [11] - Quote Oh christ i think hes actually genuine, also an atheist and frankly this is embarasing. Op have you read literaly any of the names of the amarr ship line? Or the name of the eve universe Or the name of the damn game. Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Linus Gorp Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker 291	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:08:27 - [12] - Quote http://i.imgur.com/gb6SjSq.gif When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
Jinn McKellin The Scope Gallente Federation 20	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:11:44 - [13] - Quote Good riddance.
Babakartal Thiesant The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:11:45 - [14] - Quote Leo Seti wrote: I'm an atheist to, but I don't let random shapes offend me. You really think that's a random shape? Have you been docked in a Gallente station in last 2 weeks?
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 8255	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:12:07 - [15] - Quote Babakartal Thiesant wrote: Doc Fury wrote: As a fellow atheist, this is an outrage! Even the name of the game.. You know who also created EVE according to Christian mythology? The name is something else bro. Has no the same effect! While you're playing, in a few months you'll even forget about the name of the game! But if you'll dock in a station and always see your ship is praying in front of a futuristic cross and constrained this religious propaganda .... This is not acceptable for me. Doc has been playing for more than 10 years, and still knows what this game's name is. It used to be called something else however. Doc also does not Anthropomorphise his ships unless they are being naughty. It seems you must be one of those atheists.. Gÿ+ The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper: 'Hodor'.
Babakartal Thiesant The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:16:51 - [16] - Quote Doc Fury wrote: Babakartal Thiesant wrote: Doc Fury wrote: As a fellow atheist, this is an outrage! Even the name of the game.. You know who also created EVE according to Christian mythology? The name is something else bro. Has no the same effect! While you're playing, in a few months you'll even forget about the name of the game! But if you'll dock in a station and always see your ship is praying in front of a futuristic cross and constrained this religious propaganda .... This is not acceptable for me. Doc has been playing for more than 10 years, and still knows what this game's name is. It used to be called something else however. Doc also does not Anthropomorphise his ships unless they are being naughty. It seems you must be one of those atheists.. /OP definitely does not want to be around when there are a bunch of goons posting in local. Well done doc :)
Leo Seti Vita. 6	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:18:25 - [17] - Quote Babakartal Thiesant wrote: Leo Seti wrote: I'm an atheist to, but I don't let random shapes offend me. You really think that's a random shape? Have you been docked in a Gallente station in last 2 weeks? A Cross is a random shape. So is anything else to do with religion. As an atheist it shouldn't offend you, as it means nothing to you.
Khan Wrenth Ore Oppression Prevention and Salvation 636	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:19:30 - [18] - Quote So, basically, OP is fairly sure he figured out some subtle image of a cross and thinks, "Nailed it!"? Let's discuss overhauling the way we get intel in EvE.
Brokk Witgenstein Extreme Agony The Wraithguard. 374	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:19:36 - [19] - Quote Dude. Take your real-life sh!t elsewhere. Goodbye and good riddance.
Leo Seti Vita. 6	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:21:16 - [20] - Quote Khan Wrenth wrote: So, basically, OP is fairly sure he figured out some subtle image of a cross and thinks, "Nailed it!"? lolz. Would clap for that, but my hands are tied up.

Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 26296	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:24:37 - [21] - Quote Babakartal Thiesant wrote: this, please see the picture http://i.imgur.com/bHSfCk6.jpg Since June Release 118.6 has been deployed, if you want to start the game or in the game; if you want to dock in any Gallente station, there's a Dynamic camera view; you ship comes slowly in the middle of the station and stays in front of this huge Cross which is the symbol of Christianity and it really looks like the ship is praying! Why a cross? or why not Allah? Why not any other almost 7000 Gods or that much religions? Guys, I know some of you are going to answer this topic as: Hey dude, you can shut down the Dynamic Camera from your settings!! The use of the cross for decoration is far older, as in it dates back to the stone age, than Christianity; I suggest that you turn off the dynamic camera, then take off your knickers, and untwist them. Quote: But dude, this is not the solution and this is not even the thing, what I'm talking about! I wrote something about this to the support. The answer is: that they're using such orthogonal shapes and forms for the developing of the station structure; what I see there has nothing to do with christianity and it's not a cross! c'moon :) We're not children! That's a reasonable answer tbh, you appear to be out to prove that you're a child btw. Quote: I'm an atheist. And I just don't want to be involved such things in a game; in a game like EvE Online! I always played EvE. EvE made me happy, such a beautiful game! Everything was perfect; since I see this unnecessary detail! I really don't understand whay do ccp had to do such a thing! How pitty that is! As I said; I'm quitting EvE and cancelling my account. And you guys know; why. good bye! I'm an atheist, you're frakking embarrassing. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Pandora Carrollon Kingsman Tailors 419	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:25:41 - [22] - Quote Well, if you're an atheist, why would a cross bother you? Is it somehow a threat to your atheist belief's? Are you going to see that over and over and break down in tears and say "I convert!" Have we gotten to the point where even the appearance of something that runs contrary to our own self belief systems causes us to be offended and break down in abject obeisance? I weep for the species. Wizards First Rule wrote: People are stupid. Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game -- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
Dark Lord Trump Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 49	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:30:48 - [23] - Quote Goodbye and good riddance. I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Eternus8lux8lucis Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM 806	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:50:28 - [24] - Quote Hes trolling but for a very different reason. Hes looking for Christian supporters to heckle and harass. He thinks they make easy targets because he believes they are gullible for believing in things that "dont exist." welcome to the reality of truth dont let the door hit your ass on the way out. It might look like a cross or leave you on your knees praying to something you fear too much... Have you heard anything I've said? You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right? That's right. Had to end sometime.
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 55621	Posted - 2016.07.06 23:58:07 - [25] - Quote Gotta say this is a first for me. I've never ever noticed that before. Course I'm usually busy doing something else like switching / refitting ships, selling / buying items on Market, emptying loot from cargohold, reprocessing Ore / modules, restocking munitions, speaking with Agent, checking assets / starmap, talking in various chat channels, setting route with waypoints enabled, Etc. The list goes on and on. Quite frankly I don't even really look at the in-dock screen very much, especially with those damn monitors constantly flashing a bunch of Alliance / Corp crap. Oh and yes, I turned off the Dock / Undock graphics cuz quite frankly I don't need a close up view of the front of my ship when undocking, I need to see what's outside on grid so I can easily r-click and select Insta-undock bookmark. I seriously believe Eve Online Dev's need to play this game for a few weeks in a regular Tech 1 ship before adding or changing something in this game. DMC EDIT : Giving the OP +1 for thinking way outside the box on this one. 'The Plan' \| California Eve Players \| Proposal - The Endless Battle
Paranoid Loyd 9189	Posted - 2016.07.07 00:12:04 - [26] - Quote 4/10 Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
Cade Windstalker 475	Posted - 2016.07.07 00:27:28 - [27] - Quote That's where the elves live, CCP tried to remove it but the Icelandic government intervened
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 578	Posted - 2016.07.07 00:37:07 - [28] - Quote Well this is an original reason. As an agnostic athiest I don't personally see any reason to be offended by fiction in a fictional setting. 20,000 years in the future. Check Immortal capsuleers. Check Underwater space mechanics. Check Slaves, a religious empire, cutting faces off innocent victims to give to the wealthy. Check. Check. Check. A cross in a station. Literally unplayable.
Zanar Skwigelf Boa Innovations Brothers of Tangra 0	Posted - 2016.07.07 00:53:29 - [29] - Quote As a Christian, I'm offended that this is all it took to offend you. How will you react when we unleash our plan to form a holy alliance, blessing people by jetcanning Water at the heathens in an attempt to save their space soul? You have found our first subtle hint, but there are others. Go! Find them! Only then will you discover the truth.
Khergit Deserters Crom's Angels 4535	Posted - 2016.07.07 00:56:17 - [30] - Quote My friend, I believe you are taking false offense. The cross shape is universal, it is not the monopoly of the Christian Church. For example: -A pyramid, seen from above. The X of the axes forms a cross. And they are like perfectly straight bowstrings. If you draw any bowstring back into a V, the entire force of the pyramid will bend like a bow, allowing you to launch a huge amount of energy. And you can do this in any of 4 directions. Such is the power of the pyramid. Source: Strange French book found in a library -The cross shape forms the character for the numeral 10 in Chinese and Japanese script. Ten comes after 9, which is the second or third possible number resulting from a square (3 x 3). And it's followed by 11. A prime number, divisible by nothing. Consider that. -The plus sign. ("+") Why was it chose to represent something positive, adding to, augmenting, and all around making happier? 1 Hamburger + 1 Hamburger = More Hamburgers. Which therefore = Better. The science is there. But why the cross sign was chosen, that's a topic for research and further discussion. -When you're asleep in your rectangular bed, to get yourself out, you pretty much have to align yourself square and transverse the general axis of your night' repose. Thereby, squaring yourself for another day out in the work/study/looking for work/avoiding work and looking for money world. The Y, intersected by the X. Yet another cross. -Intersections. Red lights. Contemplating of time spent sitting at them, and the calculated risks of just running through them. 4-way stop signs. Observations of human nature at them. In short, my friend, I think you have vastly undervalued the significance of the cross shape. Christian church has no monopoly of it, for sure. Who can ever know what CCP meant by arranging graphic elements in those shapes?



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