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sableye
principle of motion
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Posted - 2007.03.06 23:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Tribune Maximus
did we really played the same game the last 12 month ?! D2 backstepped STV, which became later Y ?!
but this is in fact the same absurd like the hole BoD incident!
i usually really avoiding this forum because its to 90% more or less an propaganda battleground.
I was in RISE and before than in deklien I know first hand how d2 backstabs and manipultes, why the hell do you think RISE left outer ring could not stand to be near d2 any longer, we all know you enginereed the youwhat/rise war to try weaken us both. I did not take my corp with RISE because I did'nt think becoming bob pets was a great prospect but believe me the arrogance of d2 meant we could no longer look for a home in north. I know we and d2 are now allies but I still don'nt really trust them and I just hope they hope to be better allies than they were in past. So youwhat see you on battlefield, I perfectly understand why you do this, but in current cirumstances I will have to wish you failure as my corps intrests no longer are in the north, WE are now fully IAC and 100% drunk.
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Acwron
Originally by: sableye
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I was in RISE and before than in deklien I know first hand how d2 backstabs and manipultes, why the hell do you think RISE left outer ring could not stand to be near d2 any longer, we all know you enginereed the youwhat/rise war to try weaken us both. [...]
errm how is anything you are saying in the intrest of D¦? Weaken Rise? Weaken YW? Yeah right...
It's soo in D¦ intrest to weaken the alliances that hold a region D¦ just wasted 60billion on to secure it...
Next time take a step back before you buy into BoBs tinfoil propagenda.
the info was'nt from bob and the reason was you did'nt want anything around that could challenge you and you were ****ed at youwhat for leaving d2, I will admit I can'nt say 100% everything is true eve politics are not black and white and are hard to follow at best of times all I know is you turned an allaince of people who hated and fought bob for years into despising your entire allaince so much they'd actually switch sides and that was no small change. The youwhat change is even bigger than a rise switch to be honest and either BOB are truely the perfect mind controllers or perhaps you guys just did soemthing wrong in the way you go about politics...
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: arjun
Edited by: arjun on 07/03/2007 00:11:21
woodlouse leave it be, they are all indoctrinated. no reasoning possible there.
sableeye, rise was the strongest party that could be found at the time to take the area over from the traitors in steelvipers. you were a total dissapointment however.
your sucess against outbreak was'nt much better now was it 
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sathrai
Originally by: sableye
Originally by: Acwron
Originally by: sableye
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I was in RISE and before than in deklien I know first hand how d2 backstabs and manipultes, why the hell do you think RISE left outer ring could not stand to be near d2 any longer, we all know you enginereed the youwhat/rise war to try weaken us both. [...]
errm how is anything you are saying in the intrest of D¦? Weaken Rise? Weaken YW? Yeah right...
It's soo in D¦ intrest to weaken the alliances that hold a region D¦ just wasted 60billion on to secure it...
Next time take a step back before you buy into BoBs tinfoil propagenda.
the info was'nt from bob and the reason was you did'nt want anything around that could challenge you and you were ****ed at youwhat for leaving d2, I will admit I can'nt say 100% everything is true eve politics are not black and white and are hard to follow at best of times all I know is you turned an allaince of people who hated and fought bob for years into despising your entire allaince so much they'd actually switch sides and that was no small change. The youwhat change is even bigger than a rise switch to be honest and either BOB are truely the perfect mind controllers or perhaps you guys just did soemthing wrong in the way you go about politics...
By chance, are you perhaps posting using your IAC alt as opposed to your YouWhat character? 
I am ceo of principle of motion in IAC so no alt, I do respect all our current allies in fight against bob including d2 but I do undertsand why many turn against them. I am just offering up what alot in my corp think and feel we were there in RISE as it happend I was there in NFC as it happend although i agree that was amorew differnt situation NFC felt sold out by d2, I was there in NORAD while we always got cold shoulder from d2 I was there in RISE when they started shooting at us without warning.
So anyway now I will fight siode by side with d2 and I wish them well in here current struggle I am just glad I won'nt have to live anywhere near them for sake of my corp.
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: sableye on 07/03/2007 00:32:52
Originally by: Acwron
Edited by: Acwron on 07/03/2007 00:23:41
Originally by: sableye
Originally by: Acwron
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the info was'nt from bob and the reason was you did'nt want anything around that could challenge you and you were ****ed at youwhat for leaving d2, [...]
D¦ saw Rise and YW as a threat? Why should we?
If we would have seen you as such we wouldn't have given you the region in the first place.
Did you see that you reasoning is totally borked?
Well of course you can not because that would mean that Rise's political decisions of the last months was based on false assumptions and that can't be true. Or can it?
PS: i've always been wondering what Rise has been smoking. I guess now I know.
because if youwhat and rise allied agsint you we would be another power block that could perhaps rival your own in north east, please remmber it does'nt take a whole alliance to think this it generally takes only 1 person in power to make decisions that affect the course of events in the eve universe. I also admit the whole thing could have been a bob plot and false information but bob never made d2 shoot rise now did it.
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: sableye
because if youwhat and rise allied agsint you we would be another power block that could perhaps rival your own in north east, please remmber it does'nt take a whole allaince to think this it generally take sonly 1 person in power to make decisions that affect the course of events in the eve universe.
Please Sableye, you cant honestly believe that...
D2 is sometimes arrogant - yes.
And thats why the bolded sentence is absolute nonsense.
Trust me...
well to be fair my corp came to RISE after reforming from NFC war I have little idea of the polotics before we joined RISE we were x norad pilots which is why we joined, we never liked the way you treated NFC during the war but we decided your were the strongest thing next to bob and the best chance of defeating bob was staying allied with you (hell it still might be) and overall I kid myself into thinking your actiosn during NFC war were ok, I mean staying out of war between us and iron was ok I can live with thatbut you give them a base in fade in which to launch attacks we never had that luxery kind of same during cloud ring wars youwhat could replensih in fade why we were fighting you even supposdly supplied both of these sides with stuff and yes I know you supplying youwhat with assets does not ring well with you wanting to see both of us gone but it does when you relaise youwhat and rise would have been at war for months we outnumbered them greatly but they had advantage of skill the only reason war lasted so shortly was outbreak and your allies in RISE leaving as soon as they left you napped them but came to shoot your old allies?
anyway I'll give up chatting now, I already admit I don'nt know truth 100% I have been playing eve for 3 years and I know all you ever get is half truths everyone has an angenda including the people that convinced RISE to leave Outer Ring all I personally care about now is a swift d2 victory as thats what suits me and my corp best does'nt mean I have to like you much, oh and I don;nt think you ever meant to **** people off either it what comes from being a super power in eve everyone hates you and questions your every move its natural.
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Posted - 2007.03.07 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Wylker
Originally by: sableye
perhaps you guys just did soemthing wrong in the way you go about politics...
Of course, this is the nature of Eve and even more so the CAOD forums. The alliances that are beginning to turn against D2, and those that openly admit they would never want to be friends with D2 (Hi IAC)
now I do not speak for IAC lol and don'nt try to make out I do I speak for one corp and myself that does not equel a whole lot, I speak from my experiences last few months that are meangingless to most IAC and I have not once tried to turn anyone iac against d2, IAC leadership see d2 as great allies and while I may have my differnces with d2 personally does'nt mean I won'nt follow my allaince policies and d2 are'nt exactly the worst allies out there either espially as a southern entity.
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