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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.05.11 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain You prolly missed the part where FLA surrendered?
Does that mean that its suddenly storm armada space, and that they have full control?
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.11 09:20:00 -
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We are back in complete control of Feth.
The Coalition have battlepos up in feth but none of it is challenging any of our sov there.
There are alot of roaming coalition gangs and there is alot of fighting still going on within the region so it is far from clean.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Minigin
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.11 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher We are back in complete control of Feth.
The Coalition have battlepos up in feth but none of it is challenging any of our sov there.
There are alot of roaming coalition gangs and there is alot of fighting still going on within the region so it is far from clean.
dbp
Minigin is now laying claim to all of delve... sure bob lives there... and has pos's and stations and all... but nothing to really challange my control of the area.
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3xcit3
The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.11 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain You prolly missed the part where FLA surrendered?
storm armada controlls 1(!) system in FLA Space and thats a dead-end(!) station system.. so yes.. i must have missed the part that fla is surrendered.. omg you make me laugh all the time 
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Minigin
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.11 12:59:00 -
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according to this map bob holds 55 outposts... ide go on but i think my point is made Your signature <----- My awsome Sig
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Aelena Thraant
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.11 14:05:00 -
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Aftermath Clams the S-B1E4 and the UTQ-BO Constellations in Deklein. It will be contested with Iron over the next few days... But should be under Aftermath control by mid next week.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.11 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Graalum
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain You prolly missed the part where FLA surrendered?
Does that mean that its suddenly storm armada space, and that they have full control?
If two parties are fighting over space and one leaves that'll give you;
2 - 1 = 1, hence one party left claiming space = it their space.
Dont like it? Go there and contest it. -----
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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.05.11 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Graalum
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain You prolly missed the part where FLA surrendered?
Does that mean that its suddenly storm armada space, and that they have full control?
If two parties are fighting over space and one leaves that'll give you;
2 - 1 = 1, hence one party left claiming space = it their space.
Dont like it? Go there and contest it.
Unfortunately it wasn't just fla and storm there though.
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Minigin
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.11 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Graalum
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Graalum
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain You prolly missed the part where FLA surrendered?
Does that mean that its suddenly storm armada space, and that they have full control?
If two parties are fighting over space and one leaves that'll give you;
2 - 1 = 1, hence one party left claiming space = it their space.
Dont like it? Go there and contest it.
Unfortunately it wasn't just fla and storm there though.
what are you talking about! joshua says so! it must be true! Your signature <----- My awsome Sig
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Wraithstorm
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.05.15 00:29:00 -
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Update From Storm Armada [ESA] We lay official claim to the constellation of A21H-Z which is the constellation surrounding the 3JN AND O-2 Station systems both of which we now own.
Thank you
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Adam Weishaupt
Minmatar Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.16 05:24:00 -
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Joshua's map is a political map, in that it does not 100% reflect the reality of who currently holds POS where, but rather who, on a large scale, is actively contesting where, their allegiance, and etc. He was accurate in awarding ESA FLA's space even though the actual sov had not transferred, because as he says, FLA very clearly said, we aren't going to contest this space anymore. If it had been suspected they were surrendering, then Josh would be wrong to give it to ESA, but this has been confirmed for awhile and is no secret (except, apparently, to D2?)
Each map has its flaws, the active sov one doesn't tell you much about who's allied with who, nor is it exact (though one can extrapolate) where the main offensives are taking place, but it very meticulously tells you who lost systems/stations and who gained. Without in-game knowledge of what's happening, things like the FLA/ESA flip can't be understood. Taken together, they give a very clear picture of what's going on.
Josh's is still prettier 
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Minigin
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.17 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Adam Weishaupt Joshua's map is a political map, in that it does not 100% reflect the reality of who currently holds POS where, but rather who, on a large scale, is actively contesting where, their allegiance, and etc. He was accurate in awarding ESA FLA's space even though the actual sov had not transferred, because as he says, FLA very clearly said, we aren't going to contest this space anymore. If it had been suspected they were surrendering, then Josh would be wrong to give it to ESA, but this has been confirmed for awhile and is no secret (except, apparently, to D2?)
Each map has its flaws, the active sov one doesn't tell you much about who's allied with who, nor is it exact (though one can extrapolate) where the main offensives are taking place, but it very meticulously tells you who lost systems/stations and who gained. Without in-game knowledge of what's happening, things like the FLA/ESA flip can't be understood. Taken together, they give a very clear picture of what's going on.
Josh's is still prettier 
take a look at the map buddy... sparta has sov in a couple now... Your signature <----- My awsome Sig
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Tempest Kane
Amarr Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.19 22:28:00 -
[163]
Any chance this map might get an update soon?
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.21 06:19:00 -
[164]
Edited by: Fred0 on 21/05/2007 06:24:58
Josh, you and your map is a joke. 
RZR has complete control of the whole of Tenal, not for one day has our sov been challenged in OE-4HB. Hostiles dropped 14 POS there. 6 got destroyed within 24 hours and now we have full moon coverage, they can't plant anymore and we have pos superiority. Infact so much so that we killed venal pos last night.
Nice way of abusing your status as a mapmaker.
Edit: Oh and I'm very aware of the map rules. This however serves aswell as a public notice that whatever he is doing as a mapmaker is once again just biased bull****.
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Akane Miyamoto
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.21 10:50:00 -
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Edited by: Akane Miyamoto on 21/05/2007 10:48:36
Originally by: Fred0 not for one day has our sov been challenged in OE-4HB.
Paladin Vents map is a sov. based map. Joshs isn't. Can you people learn that anytime soon? It's a political map, not a sov. map.
And as far as I know, Tri. is attacking Tenal, even if not successfully. Correct me if I'm wrong. 
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.21 11:44:00 -
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Edited by: Fred0 on 21/05/2007 11:42:13
Originally by: Akane Miyamoto Edited by: Akane Miyamoto on 21/05/2007 10:48:36
Originally by: Fred0 not for one day has our sov been challenged in OE-4HB.
Paladin Vents map is a sov. based map. Joshs isn't. Can you people learn that anytime soon? It's a political map, not a sov. map.
And as far as I know, Tri. is attacking Tenal, even if not successfully. Correct me if I'm wrong. 
Err, well no they are not. TRI has not a single pos in Tenal. **** have some in oe-4 but they have not made a statement to what for and they are not challenging our ownership of the station.
Oh and the criteria are gone? There used to be a whole load of them. But I'm guessing there are none nowadays except Josh playing his agenda no?
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.21 14:38:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 21/05/2007 14:41:33
****/TRI are trying to take over your station, it involves POSes, hence, contesting. Its really that simple. I think i forgot to put a number on geminate though, you can complain about that too if you want, its an obvious sign of bias towards Bob.
Edit: PS, can the mod remove the date next to the latest link in the OP? Theres a date on the map so its not needed and all it does is confuse people into complaining about when its gonna be updated. -----
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pershphanie
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.05.21 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: pershphanie on 21/05/2007 16:30:03
Originally by: Fred0
**** have some in oe-4 but they have not made a statement to what for and they are not challenging our ownership of the station.
8 pos's in your best system that you have not been able to take down does infact = a challange.
We have not made a statement because we want to keep the fighting in tenal friendly. A forum statement = alot of smack from both sides. but if it makes you feel better.
Our official position is:
T.i.T.S contests Tenal.
Opposing force: northern coalition.
ok. glad we can help solve the technicalities.
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INZi
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.21 17:37:00 -
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so we are bob pets after all joshua?
tri's on it's own side damn man. we go in the way our guns point us and we're not part of any stupid coallition or whatever
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Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.05.21 18:52:00 -
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Edited by: Shirei on 21/05/2007 18:52:43
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 21/05/2007 16:38:31 ****/TRI are trying to take over your station, it involves POSes, hence, contesting. Its really that simple. I think i forgot to put a number on geminate though, you can complain about that too if you want, its an obvious sign of bias towards Bob.
Yet when we contested 9CG 2 months ago and actually took sov of the system a few times for a few days it apparently wasn't enough to mark it as contested. Measuring different regions by different standards 4tw. 
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 21/05/2007 16:38:31 ****/TRI are trying to take over your station, it involves POSes, hence, contesting. Its really that simple. I think i forgot to put a number on geminate though, you can complain about that too if you want, its an obvious sign of bias towards Bob.
Maybe a **** you and we judge everyone by different standards would be sufficient you moron. We had sov in 9cg even you biased monkey.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: INZi so we are bob pets after all joshua?
tri's on it's own side damn man. we go in the way our guns point us and we're not part of any stupid coallition or whatever
Are you flying with the MC against a certain coalition? I think that would qualify as having picked a side, even if youre not a Bob pet  -----
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pershphanie
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: INZi so we are bob pets after all joshua?
tri's on it's own side damn man. we go in the way our guns point us and we're not part of any stupid coallition or whatever
/signed for **** too.
While we do like the alliance's enthusiasm for killing northerners we are not part of any coalition.
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pershphanie
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: INZi so we are bob pets after all joshua?
tri's on it's own side damn man. we go in the way our guns point us and we're not part of any stupid coallition or whatever
Are you flying with the MC against a certain coalition? I think that would qualify as having picked a side, even if youre not a Bob pet 
Well I can't speak for TRI, but I believe it is the same for us. For those ops temporary standings are given to avoid confusion. We have no NAP with most of the alliance. Just temporary mutual goals. Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why - Targoviste |

Pepperami
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.05.21 22:49:00 -
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In case you missed one of the 5 threads, COW has left Great Wildlands along with INFOD and RIOT, we're now fighting in Geminate. Great Wildlands should perhaps be a pirate infestation, left unmarked or await someone to step forward and exert some sort of power in the region.
Smash/Kill POS have been destroyed(BWF & 8MG), and stations have changed hands(8MG). However no serious sovereignty challenges have really been made. The region certainly should have a warzone marker at the least, perhaps IPS deserves contesting, but it doesn't really matter.
Significant Entities are COW & RIOT & INFOD vs Smash & Roadkill (& HellHounds?).
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.21 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: INZi so we are bob pets after all joshua?
tri's on it's own side damn man. we go in the way our guns point us and we're not part of any stupid coallition or whatever
Are you flying with the MC against a certain coalition? I think that would qualify as having picked a side, even if youre not a Bob pet 
Well I can't speak for TRI, but I believe it is the same for us. For those ops temporary standings are given to avoid confusion. We have no NAP with most of the alliance. Just temporary mutual goals.
The power blocs mostly represent the sides on the war, for the time being **** and Tri are on the alliance side, i know they're not really part of it and do not share the same standings but they fly against the same enemy and on rare occasions work together against this enemy. Ill ponder about it some more. -----
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Darknesss
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.21 23:51:00 -
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Hey josh is a good map. Ill state TRI's situation, we are NOT fighting for Tenal in any way we have no intention of taking or holding any stations. We are backing our friends up who are T.I.T.S.
Also regarding us being in the alliance, the only alliance members we are blue to are MC and Youwhat, the reason were blue with youwhat is because we were pre-war. As YouWhat were working with MC closely we set them blue, however we have shot a number of alliane members and will continue to do so.
I can understand the reasoning though seeing as we do shoot coalition members mostly, however i put this down to us living next to them, we have always (bar 1 month) shot the north and viewed them as enemies.
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Forever Free
Caldari Antipodean inc. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.22 06:26:00 -
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Josh,
Currently the Map shows the Const. RFY-QB (next to Spartan space) under Storm Armada blue, sadly this area is uncontested Spartan Space since Storm Armada capture the FLA Stations. There have been no attempts to dislodge or harass our ratters in this space and no strikes against anything within this space aside from the normal battles up and down up pipe which starts in this Const. which is confined to only 3T7. I would gratefully request this be placed into Spartan colours if possible. Also with our "Leaving the Coalition" I wish Sparta to be granted the PINK colour ;)
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Eressa
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Posted - 2007.05.22 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: Eressa on 22/05/2007 16:49:37 *never mind*
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Willington
Gallente Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.05.22 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: Willington on 22/05/2007 16:51:03 *should have read the rules first, sorry*
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