EVE Search - Ceptor masses imbalanced?

All Channels

Ships and Modules

Ceptor masses imbalanced?

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 [2] :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Dragy Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.10 16:14:00 - [31] Originally by: Maeltstome Edited by: Maeltstome on 10/03/2007 05:01:58 Edited by: Maeltstome on 10/03/2007 05:01:12 Originally by: Dragy Originally by: Reto Originally by: Dragy Leave the crow alone ! It's the only ship that we can 1v1 in without any problem and is the best in the whole department. Shouldn't chronicles justify why crow is so good ? Maybe there you'll find the answers. its deffo not okay if only one ship wihtin the game dominates a whole shipclass in all aspects m8. if the ships where better balanced there would be more challange for u and me. u would need to think more about ur ship decision and its ups and downs for the intended purpose u want to comit to. i dont flame u here but i think that u should be able to fight dogfights in all interceptors regardless of race or weapon system and have a pretty good time doing so. If i invest 200mil in a frig it needs to be worth it, end of story. Price isn't an argument. Player drievn market means that value doesnt determine effectivness. If i spent 200 mil on an anti-ceptor claw then it would decimate your crow. Sadly that 200mil would be wasited against a bigger ship for tackling, where-as your crow would still perform excellently. "i win" crow setup... no one ship should have a setup that makes it best in class for pretty much everything, all at the same time. If you can't beat a 30mil-worth crow in a claw that you invested 200mil something ain't right here. Either you read and practise how to do ceptor 1v1's or how to fit a ceptor 1v1. Don't forget that howies have the worst tracking from all long range guns and since minmatar race is building their ships from metalscrap they have no possibilities to invent a good interceptor class ship.
Spaced Skunk D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.03.10 16:16:00 - [32] /signed Minny inty masses should be lowest not highest tbh.
Dragy Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.10 16:18:00 - [33] Originally by: Spaced Skunk /signed Minny inty masses should be lowest not highest tbh. If you take into consideration the technology and chronicles, you're wrong.
SasRipper DIE WITH HONOUR	Posted - 2007.03.10 16:31:00 - [34] /signed supid that claw is so slow \|- My Sig loggedoffskied -\| Save Radar Scanner Man!
Dragy Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.10 16:46:00 - [35] Originally by: SasRipper /signed supid that claw is so slow Claw is the fastest ceptor, but with biggest mass ...
Hank Showbo Neyi Industries	Posted - 2007.03.10 17:18:00 - [36] Originally by: Dragy Originally by: Spaced Skunk /signed Minny inty masses should be lowest not highest tbh. If you take into consideration the technology and chronicles, you're wrong. In-game role play shouldnt get in the way of in-game balance.
Majin82 Caldari g guild	Posted - 2007.03.10 18:02:00 - [37] Am I the only one who thinks 1mil+ kilograms is a bit frackin much for a 1 man ship? Thats like the weight of an apartment building. CCP needs to work on their numbers of Mass and Volume and Size and the other things that are really off. ------------------------------------- The difference between a Pirate and an Anti-Pirate is that an Anti-Pirate fights ships fitted with guns! Passive Drake For The Win
Dragy Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.10 21:24:00 - [38] Originally by: Hank Showbo Originally by: Dragy Originally by: Spaced Skunk /signed Minny inty masses should be lowest not highest tbh. If you take into consideration the technology and chronicles, you're wrong. In-game role play shouldnt get in the way of in-game balance. Actually if you look at ALL ships, CCP is developing 'em thanks to in-game role play. So there's nothing wrong here tbh.
Tulisin Dragonflame	Posted - 2007.03.10 21:39:00 - [39] Edited by: Tulisin Dragonflame on 10/03/2007 21:38:32 Originally by: Majin82 Am I the only one who thinks 1mil+ kilograms is a bit frackin much for a 1 man ship? Thats like the weight of an apartment building. CCP needs to work on their numbers of Mass and Volume and Size and the other things that are really off. Have you looked at the size chart? Frigate-sized ships are pretty good sized, they're not one-man ships.
nabort Evil Proctologists	Posted - 2007.03.10 21:54:00 - [40] Despite being a Minmater pilot, i dont think the claw really needs a mass reduction. I fly taranises , crusaders and claws. I find that my taranis is the slowest, then crusader, then claw. The crusader has more speed potential but has to have 1/2x CPRs to function properly for a long time, giving the claw an extra speed mod in the lows. However, i do think the crow needs to be knocked off its pedestal a bit, caldari having something fast...surely not???
easei Energy.	Posted - 2007.03.10 22:08:00 - [41] You can decrease the mass of the claw all you want it'll still be a POS tackling/dueling ceptor with 2 mids and 17km base lock range. The stiletto is a "gang" tackler not ceptor dueler, and gets an extra mid slot. balances out IMO. So instead of nerfing other races ceptors why not just fix the problem with the claw so it can be made an effective arty platform...faster tracking, longerlock range, slightly more cap/sec.
Cpt Fina Shih Yang Tong	Posted - 2007.03.11 02:27:00 - [42] The crow does not need a nerf. Just because your allaround setup won't do the job doesn't mean that the crow is unbeatable. Fit any inty to kill a crow and it will.
Toolivus	Posted - 2007.03.11 08:19:00 - [43] The stiletto really needs to lose some weight. That the most pure and efficent tackleceptor is also the second most fat-assed and relatively slow doesn't make too much sense.
MinRray Minmatar PaxLuce AbjectioNati Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.11 12:19:00 - [44] agreed about the big masses of minmatar ceptors , they should be slightly lower , not to become a WTFPWN ceptor . i dont care about the current crow , just about the matar ones . also ... i don't know if u guys noticed but take a look at ur claw's wings after jumping through a gate and it is cloaked and when it decloaks and u have the normal ship model , the claw's wings are different models ... bug ... feature ? ; just watch the wings when it is cloaked after jumping a gate :) ... personally i like the cloaked model better "war ... war never changes"
MinRray Minmatar PaxLuce AbjectioNati Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.11 21:49:00 - [45] btw i am the only one who is seeing the claw's wings :) ? "war ... war never changes"
Maeltstome	Posted - 2007.03.13 20:10:00 - [46] No i seen it too - the same happens with all T2 ships. There are 2 slightly different models for each hul at T2, but only one 'cloaked model' - the same happens with the wolf and jag. When you think about it, the claw is basically a rifter, but faster base speed and a slightly different slot layout. Make it a 4-3-3 and you have a faster rifter with a bit more PG and less PG. I doubt i'd mind that.
Guillame Herschel Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.03.13 21:59:00 - [47] Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 13/03/2007 21:57:32 Originally by: Xelios If anything should have less mass it's the Stiletto. Its offense and defense isn't even comparable to the other inties, but it makes a mean tackler. It should outrun all the other inties tbh. /signed /me <3 my Stiletto. It's name is Sycorax. It wants to go faster. Lots faster. One of the Minmatar interceptors should get a 5% velocity bonus per level. Probably Claw, but I don't care much either way. I prefer the Stiletto but maybe if the Claw had a velocity bonus I'd like it better. -- Guile can always trump hardware --
Majin82 Caldari g guild	Posted - 2007.03.13 22:48:00 - [48] Originally by: Tulisin Dragonflame Edited by: Tulisin Dragonflame on 10/03/2007 21:38:32 Originally by: Majin82 Am I the only one who thinks 1mil+ kilograms is a bit frackin much for a 1 man ship? Thats like the weight of an apartment building. CCP needs to work on their numbers of Mass and Volume and Size and the other things that are really off. Have you looked at the size chart? Frigate-sized ships are pretty good sized, they're not one-man ships. You are wrong my friend, Frigates are 1 person ships, flown by you, the pod pilot. Before PODs you are correct, they had a small crew, but with the invention of the POD they are 1 man. Either way, they are not big enough in size to account for a mass of over 1mil KG. An Nimus Class Air Craft Carrier doesn't even weight 1 mil KG. So again, CCP needs to work on the numbers for the ships in this game. ------------------------------------- The difference between a Pirate and an Anti-Pirate is that an Anti-Pirate fights ships fitted with guns! Passive Drake For The Win
Arian Snow The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.14 01:44:00 - [49] Edited by: Arian Snow on 14/03/2007 01:43:09 I agree that the Stiletto at least should get a mass reduction! Its a very slow ceptor. I dont know what CCP has in store with istabs but as it is now a Claw doesn't depend on a plate these days. I fit Istabs to keep up and tackle as fast as I can. Both the Claw and the Stiletto is flawed! The stilleto has absolutely crap damage output and its too slow. The Claw only has 2 midslots which isn't great for any tackler! And its heavy as hell which is bad because it cant keep its close orbit very well so it relies on Barrage to do the damage, and 7.5km scramblers can loose their target too easily! Also, the Crow can with its 3 midslots easily keep a 20km disrupter going... Cap injectors do exist in EVE or haven't you noticed? The Claw cannot use injectors with only 2 midslots... ----------------------------------------------- I dont remember I dont recall I dont have memory of anything at all!
Elain Reverse Caldari Shokei	Posted - 2007.03.14 04:10:00 - [50] Oh commeon, Caldari is known for their superiority in small atack ships and ceptors fall to that cathegory.
Maeltstome Minmatar Caldari Navy Raiders DeStInY.	Posted - 2007.03.14 22:45:00 - [51] Originally by: Elain Reverse Oh commeon, Caldari is known for their superiority in small atack ships and ceptors fall to that cathegory. Depends hwo you look on it - the kestrel is heavy and slow despite its firepower. The merlin is a bit faster and has a tanking bonus. Only the condor is nippy - and its terrible at combat, but the crow is fast and awesome in combat. Go figure.

Pages: 1 [2] :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.