Originally by: Ginger Magician

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Interestingly enough it seems that MC are so desperate for killmails they even posted a fake killmail of my carrier on Battleclinic after the loss.This has now been removed by the admins.

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Originally by: Hans Roaming

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Originally by: Ginger Magician

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Yes I self-destructed my carrier and I am very happy to have done it.
U managed to get me scrambled due to a lame log in trap and u were using a mothership which is invunerable so I decided not to give lamers like this easy killmails or loot.

Interestingly enough it seems that MC are so desperate for killmails they even posted a fake killmail of my carrier on Battleclinic after the loss.This has now been removed by the admins.

Just for future reference all Snowy capital pilots will automatically self destruct their ships when there is no hope of escape so dont expect to get many killmails or loot from blobbing us.

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When in low sec always keep local pegged on your screen as you never know who may be around and warping (80AU) to your position.

PS: First time I've ever heard a two people gang called a blob.

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Originally by: Lilan Kahn

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If someone self destructs YOU DID NOT GET THE KILL.... :-)

None the less the ship is stil very dead due to actions of the ones shoting and forceing the pilot in question to self destrut.

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Originally by: Mynas Atoch

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Originally by: tiller

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hell last Sunday one day of kills for me was 96 mails. Sure, most were frig sized ships and shuttles but I actually was ****ed off I had so many, was a real PITA to post them up.

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Originally by: tiller

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A Aeon is a 1 man blob.... and in low sec it is a IWin button that cannot be beaten. .... I envy pilots of these ships, but only for them owning such a ship as any fool can fly one tbh.

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So you camp low sec killing frigates and shuttles with your pirate friends, including one in a Thanatos, and you have such a problem with someone attacking your camp and killing your Thanatos in an Aeon that you self destruct your ship?

Piracy is truly EVE on easy mode. We should shoot more of them.

Myn

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Originally by: Hans Roaming

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I think someone had a little tantrum when more than a shuttle came in local to meet his corporations gate camp.

Hope your camps don't get blobbed by any more solo ships m8.

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Originally by: Masochistic Cannibal

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If it's ok for a carebear to log out to save his ship and stop the nasty piwat getting a killmail and loot I'd say it's just as fair for the nasty piwat to self destruct and stop the bear getting his loot and killmail !

Both are lame, agreed. But one is metagaming and one isn't [;)]

Cannibal

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Originally by: Hans Roaming

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Originally by: Masochistic Cannibal

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Originally by: Hans Roaming

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I think someone had a little tantrum when more than a shuttle came in local to meet his corporations gate camp.

Hope your camps don't get blobbed by any more solo ships m8.

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Theres no way in hell a small gatecamp like the one described could kill a mothership... EVER.

So your point is kinda retarded.

Cannibal

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Yeah but then there's no reason why a small gate camp watching local and the scanner to see what's inbound should loose a carrier to one either.

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Originally by: Max Teranous

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Originally by: Masochistic Cannibal

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Theres no way in hell a small gatecamp like the one described could kill a mothership... EVER.

So your point is kinda retarded.

Cannibal

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And a shuttle can in no way ever kill a Thanatos - MC consider it a kill for the little guy

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Originally by: Frances Ducoir

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this thread is really funny. pirates which blob, gatecamp and kill targets which cant really defend are whining about getting the same thing from someone whos is stronger.


btw good job mc :D

and to the topic:
yes self destruction should give you ZERO insurance.

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Originally by: dan santhums

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A carrier is a 1 man blob.... and in low sec it is a IWin button that cannot be beaten. .... I envy pilots of these ships, but only for them owning such a ship as any fool can fly one tbh.

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Originally by: Phoenus

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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This thread is funny. Phoenus posted a mail on the MC boards and it has been handled, I could really worry less about one less carrier kill to my name.

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Please note the above - the Killmail was posted to the *MC* boards to keep our records accurate. A kill is a kill is a kill, it's the same as an NPC stealing a killmail - you still kill the ship, even if you don't get the mail.

It was posted up, with an explanation that it was a self-destruction, with a screenshot showing you self-destructing.

If your own killboard is copying kills from an MC board, that is a problem that is beyond our control. The mail was removed (by myself), less than 5 minutes after it was posted, to avoid it being 'spread', as what happened.

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Originally by: Witch Doctor

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Was there a loss mail? Did that get posted anywhere?
Loss mail = lost ship. Full stop. Is that on the SNOWY boards, or does that "not count" because you self-loved?

Does the suicide get the kill mail? If so, that may explain Ginger's advertised kill count.

And tiller, when did you start slumming? You were one of my favorite pirates. Ginger's not in your league.

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Originally by: dan santhums

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So NPC final blows dont count as kills?

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Originally by: Seleene

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To hell with the ship. This is the only mail that counts, and it's NOT faked.

Quote:

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2007.03.08 00:57

Victim: Ginger Magician
Alliance: None
Corp: OctoberSnow Corp
Destroyed: Capsule
System: Otou
Security: 0.3

Involved parties:

Name: Waagaa Ktlehr (laid the final blow)
Security: 3.7
Alliance: Mercenary Coalition
Corp: Body Count Inc.
Ship: Aeon
Weapon: Ahremen's Modified Large EMP Smartbomb

2007.03.08 00:56
For your termination of Ginger Magician we have paid you the bounty that was set to his head: 85,876,553.00 ISK

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Self-destruct all you want. Dead is dead.

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Originally by: Crovan

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It's ok, I think poor Ginger has counting issues, as I remember a 4 on 4 (4 BS against our 1 BS, 1 T1 Cruiser, 1 recon, 1 HAC) where we were labelled as blobbers. It's ok, I still love Ginger, even if he emoragequits his Thanny. As has already been said, it seems that turnabout is fair play, and maybe you should remember that utterly helpless, pathetic, useless feeling the next time you use your gate-camping carrier to take on some poor noob's cruiser. Just remember, you never know when we'll be back. I guess next time we'll just have to bring more ships to ensure we kill you inside 2 minutes.

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Originally by: Idara

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Edited by: Idara on 08/03/2007 18:15:53

Originally by: tiller

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you mean nothing to me.

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Apparently we meant enough to Gingy to make him self-destruct rather than giving us the pleasure of posting a killmail.

What, no one was around with dreads? Damn, would've been nice to see an instapopped Thanatos and then Ginger whining that he got ganked while he'd buy a new Thanatos and go back to ganking people going through lowsec.

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Originally by: DarkElf

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Originally by: tiller

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Originally by: Phoenus

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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This thread is funny. Phoenus posted a mail on the MC boards and it has been handled, I could really worry less about one less carrier kill to my name.

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Please note the above - the Killmail was posted to the *MC* boards to keep our records accurate. A kill is a kill is a kill, it's the same as an NPC stealing a killmail - you still kill the ship, even if you don't get the mail.

It was posted up, with an explanation that it was a self-destruction, with a screenshot showing you self-destructing.

If your own killboard is copying kills from an MC board, that is a problem that is beyond our control. The mail was removed (by myself), less than 5 minutes after it was posted, to avoid it being 'spread', as what happened.

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I'd disagree, a kill is a KILL... ie: you should have the mail. Ginger killed himself.

If you dont have the mail it's because, guess... you didn't get the kill.

The MC killboard would seem to be full of manufactured kills then ?.. full of what MC members judge 'should' of been their kill.

I've already killed 5 titans solo in a ibis

oh I 'should' of won this fight, if this had happened I 'would' of won that fight, if I had been scratching my arse while hitting f keys I 'may' of won blah fight....where do you draw the line MC ?

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i normally agree with u tiller but on this case i do not.

if u attack someone in a belt and do 99% of the damage to them but a louysy npc frig hits the final blow, it doesn't mean that the frig got the kill. landing the final blow on something doesn't mean it;s 'your' kill, it simply means that it hit you last.

It was because of MC that his carrier dies, therefore it is their kill.


DE

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Originally by: xtreamer

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TURBY > your corp anyday anywhere

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Originally by: Nero Ya'ng

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where can i see the pvp rankings? are there official rankings? or can everyone say hes nummber 1 pvper?

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Originally by: Skuzapo

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Originally by: tiller

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I'm no.2 btw...

You can say what you want, but you'd just be fooling yourself and everyone would laugh at you

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

need I spell it out ?

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Originally by: Blind Man

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just make a fake killmail, i do it all the time when npcs get it and the person is too lame to send the lossmail to me

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Originally by: Dez Affinity

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Originally by: tiller

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Edited by: tiller on 10/03/2007 11:44:18

lol @ the Ginger jealousy that shows it's ugly head. Time and time again Ginger posts and all I see is green eyes of 'I wish I was like him'

It's sad, just because you can never reach his dizzy heights of fame and fortune within eve you have to smack talk him on the forums.

btw, I got to no.2 in eve, so got close to Ginger... hell so close I joined his corp \o/\o/

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You need some new retorts. All I hear from you is "OMGZ UR JUS JEELUS I CNA MSMTAUBT BOMB SMAL SHIPZ IN MY BIGZ SHIPZ" Then you say things like "LOLZ WE KILZ U 2 THATZ Y U NO UZ" then it's "IF U WAZ GUD LIK UZ UD B ABLE 2 KIL UZ - CEPT U HAVE NO KILMAILZ OF UZ CUZ LIKE WE SEFL DESITRCUZORZ"

Ya know it gets kind of boring.

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