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Dibblerette
The Phantom Regiment
Stillness of Chaos
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Posted - 2011.12.20 20:34:00 -
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So after burning the requisite score of frigates, I'd like to think I have a grasp of PvP. I know generally when to run and when to shoot, what kinds of fits different ships tend to fight, I'm proficient at D scanning and all that good stuff. Now I feel that an upgrade to my trusty Merlin is in order, but I'm kind of stuck as to where to go from here. I looked at the T2 variants of my Merlin, and found them to be a bit slow, or lacking in DPS. I also remembered all the fights I had to pass over in lowsec because I was on station/gate in a frigate, and as such couldn't initiate a fight there. 
So then I started to look at bigger ships. Destroyers seem fun, but they still have roughly the same tank as far as gateguns are concerned. Cruisers look alright, the arbitrator and vexor look fun to drone things to death with, and the Thorax or Rupture pack a punch, but they still seem limited in fitting or fragile.
Not wanting to fly anything above 100m per hull unless it would prove capable of at least breaking even, my last hope was battlecruisers. The new Tier 3 models are fun to look at, but large guns and ~30k EHP are not a solo ship. This leaves the old standbys, unless I'm passing over something. My skills are better for shields and guns, but I'd be willing to train into missiles or armor or whatever it takes to make a ship work.
TL; DR
Need cost-effective PvP ship for solo or very small gang work in lowsec or npc 0.0
Cost effective is not the same as cheap, but cheap helps. T1 insurance is a plus, but cheap or very resilient T2 will be given due consideration. Thank you. |
Dibblerette
The Phantom Regiment
Stillness of Chaos
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Posted - 2011.12.20 21:12:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:I'd probably roll in a Ferox, Moa, or Brutix just because people haven't adjusted to their new power (T1 cruiser roam, Moa style: http://wp.me/p1WQ0O-2F [Blog post]), but a PODLA nano drake is pretty badass too. -Liang
You're right, I had kind of blown those hybrid boats off because of old prejudices 
I've head of this PODLA drake, but I'm unfamiliar with the specifics, do you have the fit?
Also I like the cane fit, but it seems a little on the thin side. I know you're supposed to kite with it, but it still makes me a little nervous, although coming from the Merlin it's positively chunky. |
Dibblerette
The Phantom Regiment
Stillness of Chaos
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Posted - 2011.12.20 21:22:00 -
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Too bad the Brutix has an armor rep bonus instead of something more useful, like tracking or MWD cap use. Is there such a thing as a Nano Ferox? Or a viable ship with medium railguns? Finally, how much of a priority should BC 5 be?
Thanks for all the input! |
Dibblerette
The Phantom Regiment
Stillness of Chaos
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Posted - 2011.12.20 21:43:00 -
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Wow, didn't realize you could get a capable BS that cheap! I've not got around to getting any T2 large weapon yet, besides torpedos for my bombers of course  but I'll keep that in mind. Now I'm assuming there's more to a nano ship then just slapping on a nanofiber structure. I assume it's a playstyle, correct? Kiting and keeping range instead of just brawling it out? That would lend itself rather well to the longer range weapons, so I can see why the blaster Ferox or Brutix would be less than ideal. What would you consider the minimum speed/agility/dps at range for a ship to count as "Nano?" |
Dibblerette
The Phantom Regiment
Stillness of Chaos
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Posted - 2011.12.20 21:55:00 -
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Takeshi Yamato wrote:BC V is regarded as one of the best skills to train for solo/small gang roaming because BCs are so cost effective.
Also +1 for the Geddon:
[Armageddon, lowsec].
Seems like the lack of prop mod isn't TOO bad, because with 3 plates you're not going anywhere fast anyways, right?
And thanks for the BS fits guys, but I'm currently looking at sub-BS stuff, but I've saved those for later. |
Dibblerette
The Phantom Regiment
Stillness of Chaos
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Posted - 2011.12.20 23:47:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:m0cking bird wrote:Good advice The Harpy and Hawk both do pretty well against destroyers. I'd estimate each of my Harpy losses costs me ~25 mil and I probably get about that much back (maybe more?) in just loot+salvage. One of the key money making opportunities for pirates is salvaging T2 wrecks, BTW - so make sure that you at least pack a salvager in your cargo hold. :) -Liang
If you're Harpy fit isn't classified, I'd love to see it  |
Dibblerette
The Phantom Regiment
Stillness of Chaos
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Posted - 2011.12.21 00:24:00 -
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Wow, looks like a hell of a fight! I'll give that a look for sure, Harpies are pretty cheap usually. |
Dibblerette
The Phantom Regiment
Stillness of Chaos
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Posted - 2011.12.21 18:21:00 -
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Anyways, thanks everyone for your opinions, I will be training BC 5 soon, then working on more armor and missile support skills to make all my BCs more effective. In the mean time, I'll probably mess around with the Harpy
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Dibblerette
The Phantom Regiment
Stillness of Chaos
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Posted - 2011.12.22 23:00:00 -
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Fitted up a Brutix today, and jumped on a Drake in a belt. I was able to burn him down despite the Tornado, Hurricane and Rifter that all came to his aid, and laughed my pod all the way to safety. Great first fight with the face-melter type of ship. |
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