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TheJanitor
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Posted - 2007.03.08 22:06:00 -
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looking for suggestions on how to suicide Hulk's in Sec Space. Willing to take the Sec hit, and a few BS losses (if that's what it takes).
I'm thinking (as a starting point):
Geddon, loaded with SmartBombs, Cap injectors, plates and hardners for maximum surviveability to let the SmartBomb's do their thing.
Any suggestions welcome, as we must all work together to drive up min prices even more!
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Benzmann
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.08 23:44:00 -
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lol dont use SB's
you cant kill a hulk alone in empire,
maybe 2-3 bs's fitted for pure dmg might gank him b4 concord ganks you :P
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B1G DAVE
Mining and Research Industrial Organisation
Hell Hounds
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Posted - 2007.03.09 00:49:00 -
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Why would you want to do that? :(
(Disclaimer I dont mine  )
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JoeT
Amarr
Short Attention Span
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Posted - 2007.03.09 01:25:00 -
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Gank Geddons. 3 i think might cut it
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Tom Shandy
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Posted - 2007.03.09 01:38:00 -
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you want to suicide miners,
so the mineral prices go up even more because of this ?
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.09 01:57:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 09/03/2007 01:53:37
Two or three geddons, using T2 dual heavy pulse lasers with multifrequency L. 4x heat sink II and 4 1600mm titanium plates in lows. Three large shield extender Is in mid slots. Five ogre Is for drones. Should be pretty cheap and should deal some serious damage.
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Nahia Senne
Fortunis Novum
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Posted - 2007.03.09 02:01:00 -
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bring enough friends in caracals or kessies, get around the guy and keep bumping till he pays ransom or you make him go boom.
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Hadean Drive Yards
Archaean Cooperative
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Posted - 2007.03.09 02:28:00 -
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Edited by: Lithalnas on 09/03/2007 02:25:22
any ship you want really, just steal from his can untill he shoot at you, or he steals it back.
Use a hauler and get as much ore out of him, he will probably shoot at you once you start impacting his yields. Then its pew pew time.
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Davey Oaks
Minmatar
Original Production Material
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Posted - 2007.03.09 07:55:00 -
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Edited by: Davey Oaks on 09/03/2007 07:52:17
I killed a hulk in a stabber with tech 2 artys and a friend in a brutix, don't know if he was needed though as i had plenty of time (0.6)
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DarkElf
Caldari
Veto.
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Posted - 2007.03.09 12:38:00 -
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2 or 3 geddons should do it i reckon. as many mega pulse as u can fit, 3 or 4 heat sinks, and as many 1600 plates and extenders as u can fit
DE
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Darcy Killar
Gallente
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.09 12:46:00 -
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Nowŕout of morbid curiosityŕhow many frigs would it take? 
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Chuck Mussolinia
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.03.09 12:47:00 -
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Gather all your friends and family, get into Velators, Ibises, and Reapers.
About 50 should be enough?
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Kurt Armstrong
Original Production Material
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Posted - 2007.03.13 17:26:00 -
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 Originally by: Davey Oaks
Edited by: Davey Oaks on 09/03/2007 07:52:17
I killed a hulk in a stabber with tech 2 artys and a friend in a brutix, don't know if he was needed though as i had plenty of time (0.6)
I wouldn't go that far, but the Brutix and Stabber did suicide it pretty quickly, way before concorde showed up.
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Shiva Shane
Gallente
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.13 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tom Shandy
you want to suicide miners,
so the mineral prices go up even more because of this ?
What if I'm in a corp that produces its own ships and fittings out of its own minerals? Then I don't care about ore prices.
Or, what if I belong to a corp that profits from mineral sales? Then I stand to gain if the supply is lowered by any means.
Or, it could be I just like burning miners.
Or something.
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Speed Devil
Caldari
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.13 19:54:00 -
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i think u could get the most damage out of a domi
fit it with 6 blasters and 5 heavy drones, 7 damagemods in the lows
Originally by: Merkanas
To people who can't understand: there are rules and there are morals, don't get them confused. If rules allow it and you have no moral objection, by all means... have fun. |
Phelan Lore
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.13 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Speed Devil
7 damagemods in the lows
What is this, 2005?
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Niton Stormrider
HCD
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Posted - 2007.03.13 20:30:00 -
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Why would you sacrifice three or four battleships to splatter some guys hulk? Can you actually come out ahead in the end from loot and such, or is it just for some irrational hatred of miners?
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Ikvar
I WILL ROCK YOUR FACE
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Posted - 2007.03.13 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Benzmann
you cant kill a hulk alone in empire,
Yes you can. I did it in a 0.5 with a plated/extended geddon and a mix of 8 named smartbombs.
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Humpalot
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Posted - 2007.03.13 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Niton Stormrider
Why would you sacrifice three or four battleships to splatter some guys hulk? Can you actually come out ahead in the end from loot and such, or is it just for some irrational hatred of miners?
Hmm...let's see (numbers are rough averages but close enough for this):
Armageddon = 65,000,000
Insurance = 19,500,000
Megapulse Laser (x7) = 5,250,000
Large Multifrequency Crystal (x7) = 1,575,000
Heat Sinks (x4) = 100,000
1600 Titanium Plate (x4) = 2,600,000
Large Shield Extender (x3) = 120,000
Total Buy Cost - 94,145,000
Total Loss After CONCORD - 29,145,000
Ok, we'll call that 30 mil to make it easy. Multiply that by three ships and you are out 90 million. Note this is all just T1 stuff.
If you are lucky the Hulk will drop a Stripminer and a Gist shield hardener. Total value around 98 million. Add in some crystals and what not and call it 100 million in loot IF you are lucky. If he does not have the Gist on or it dies in the wreck you are looking at more like a 60 million payday (depending how many strips drop...could be 30 mil if only one drops).
Seems dicey at best to be economically viable. Stick to Covetors.
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Jex Jast
Go for the booty
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Posted - 2007.03.17 20:15:00 -
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Maybe it's a territorial thing.
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Mr Xofar
The Devil's Mafia
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Posted - 2007.03.18 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: Tom Shandy
you want to suicide miners,
so the mineral prices go up even more because of this ?
I'm guessing you don't REALLY watch the mineral market? High end ore prices are at an all time low, while low end ores are going through the roof. The only way to combat this is to affect the flow directly at the source and make much stuff go boom. i.e. Blow up Hulks, and Covetors.
If you see mine, please, by all means blow it up. I'll even mine in lowsec for you.
Miner Timer
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.03.18 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Xofar
Originally by: Tom Shandy
you want to suicide miners,
so the mineral prices go up even more because of this ?
I'm guessing you don't REALLY watch the mineral market? High end ore prices are at an all time low, while low end ores are going through the roof. The only way to combat this is to affect the flow directly at the source and make much stuff go boom. i.e. Blow up Hulks, and Covetors.
If you see mine, please, by all means blow it up. I'll even mine in lowsec for you.
You sir, fail Eve economics. How does destroying the ships that mine low end ore affect the high end ore price? Macro miners don't mine in low sec, they hide in high sec. High sec only has low end minerals. Your problem lies with the large alliances flooding the market with stockpiled goods to fund their wars.
Take it up with them.
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ALPHA12125
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.18 10:33:00 -
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dominix with shield and plates and medium blasters. get close launch drones shoot with blasters.
after 5 seconds you will be jammed but the drones keep hammering :D works like a charm
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.03.18 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Nahia Senne
bring enough friends in caracals or kessies, get around the guy and keep bumping till he pays ransom or you make him go boom.
You mean until he petitions you like freighter pilots can, and will, do?
Originally by: kieron
The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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swoj
The New Order.
United Connection's
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Posted - 2007.03.18 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Jex Jast
Maybe it's a territorial thing.
I was thinking it's more of a Hulk BPO owner (or potential inventor) wanting to make sure that demand for Hulks stays high enough to keep the prices high after the patch! 
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tina townend
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Posted - 2007.03.18 16:00:00 -
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I fly a Hulk 600 million for hulk and 360 million on fittings. If theJanitor and his corp have a successful high security hulk killing operation that wont help hulk sales very much. Not many people will invest 1 billion isk in a hulk setup to mine scordite with hulks getting popped all over empire
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Jaedar Metron
Artificial Horizons
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.03.18 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: tina townend
I fly a Hulk 600 million for hulk and 360 million on fittings. If theJanitor and his corp have a successful high security hulk killing operation that wont help hulk sales very much. Not many people will invest 1 billion isk in a hulk setup to mine scordite with hulks getting popped all over empire
And this, my friend, will only help the Hulk market. What happens if people flying hulks stop buying them if they get shot and killed?
Exactly. The Hulk sellers will have less customers. Hulks available for sale as a result increases, and therefore, Hulk prices drop.
Bad for the ones with Hulk bpo's, good for the rest of EvE
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Speed Devil
Caldari
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.18 23:25:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Phelan Lore
Originally by: Speed Devil
7 damagemods in the lows
What is this, 2005?
??? 
Originally by: Merkanas
To people who can't understand: there are rules and there are morals, don't get them confused. If rules allow it and you have no moral objection, by all means... have fun. |
Big Al
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2007.03.18 23:31:00 -
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A tech 1 blaster domi (with ogres) will kill an untanked hulk in high sec.
Of course the only flying a hulk with no tank are farmers who don't know better - loot will probably suck.
Good loot pops anyway, so this shouldn't stop you. Grief is a fine motivation.
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AvatarADV
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Posted - 2007.03.19 01:54:00 -
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Who flies a Hulk in high-sec anyway? Sure it's better than a Covetor, but not that much better. (Then again, after the expected tidal wave of Hulk invention, who knows? ;p)
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Pepperami
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.19 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: tina townend
I fly a Hulk 600 million for hulk and 360 million on fittings. If theJanitor and his corp have a successful high security hulk killing operation that wont help hulk sales very much. Not many people will invest 1 billion isk in a hulk setup to mine scordite with hulks getting popped all over empire
hey tina, long time no see. Good to see you're still playing 
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Hannobaal
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2007.03.19 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Speed Devil
Originally by: Phelan Lore
Originally by: Speed Devil
7 damagemods in the lows
What is this, 2005?
???
It's a waste of slots to put that many on there because of the penalties you get. After maybe 3 of them you're not really getting much of anything out of additional damage mods.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.03.19 12:31:00 -
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AND you get a lot more damage in to the target if you plate your ship instead of 7-damage-modding it.
+20-30% survival time beats +10-15% DPS any time of day
3 damage mods and rest plates and extenders should be more than enough on a BS
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But anayway, why would you WANT to blow up miners in highsec ?
Or for that matter, why mine in anything BUT a covetor with T1 stripminers in highsec ?
Does that (max) +35% extra to your VELDSPAR/scordite mining yield justify the risk of getting suicided on in a half bil up to a billion ISK worth of ship plus gear ?
If I'd be a miner, I'd rather take the -25% profit on my mining time for the (maximal) loss of about 10-15 mil ISK in case I get suicided on.
It only takes ONE such suicide on a one-bil fit Hulk at current market price to actually nullify UP TO FIVE HUNDRED HOURS worth of mining (that's almost one month of day-and-night slave labor-like mining) of Scordite in higsec.
Yes, no wonder they call miners STUPID. Because THEY ARE.
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Speed Devil
Caldari
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.19 12:35:00 -
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Edited by: Speed Devil on 19/03/2007 12:32:14
well its fun because of the hatemail :D
and i really dont notice much about longer survival, usually when concord comes its laggy as hell and all i see is my pod then
Originally by: Merkanas
To people who can't understand: there are rules and there are morals, don't get them confused. If rules allow it and you have no moral objection, by all means... have fun. |
Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.03.19 12:47:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 19/03/2007 12:54:35
[infomercial mode engaged]
And "The bestest suicide ship" award goes tooooo.....
*drum roll*
...The ABADDON !
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this beauty of a ship is worth 180 mil insurance payout (so you lose 54 mil after platinum insurance payout), but what a SHIP !
With its majestic godly armor resists, your 4 extra plates are worth as much as 5 (or even 6) plates (depending on skills) compared to any other ships, and it also sports a whooping 8 "lazor turrents" with a damage bonus making it a heavy hitter with an equivalent firepower of up to 10 same turrets on other non-bonused ships.
But wait, there's more ! The 4 midslots and generous powergrid allow you to fit ample extra buffer protection in form of shield extenders (now don't get frisky, you wanted to suicide, so go fit extenders to an amarr ship) alongside 8 of the cheapest pulse laser large turrets (and they're really, really cheap).
And to be honest, you'd better fit a T1 damage control instead of the fourth plate, it gives you more overall points and makes for an even easier fit ... just INCREDIBLE !
With this ship, you might even manage to run out of CAPACITOR before your ship blows up, now that's not something you see every day in a Concordokkened ship ladies and gentlemen.
Abaddon... kills Hulks dead... before CONCORD kills YOU !
*applause*
Buy an Abaddon now, and we will even throw in a disposable frigate full of neutralizers, cap injectors and even a scrambler, for that extra bit of *OOMPH* in breaking that Hulk's tank and those precious extra seconds before CONCORD targets you instead.
*crowd goes wild*
[/infomercial mode off]
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ZelRox
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.19 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
And "The bestest suicide ship" award goes tooooo.....
*drum roll*
...The ABADDON !
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this beauty of a ship is worth 180 mil insurance payout (so you lose 54 mil after platinum insurance payout), but what a SHIP !
With its majestic godly armor resists, your 4 extra plates are worth as much as 5 (or even 6) plates (depending on skills) compared to any other ships, and it also sports a whooping 8 "lazor turrents" with a damage bonus making it a heavy hitter with an equivalent firepower of up to 10 same turrets on other non-bonused ships.
But wait, there's more ! The 4 midslots and generous powergrid allow you to fit ample extra buffer protection in form of shield extenders (now don't get frisky, you wanted to suicide, so go fit extenders to an amarr ship) alongside 8 of the cheapest pulse laser large turrets (and they're really, really cheap).
With this ship, you might even manage to run out of CAPACITOR before your ship blows up, now that's not something you see every day in a Concordokkened ship ladies and gentlemen.
I endorse this post 
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.03.19 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: ZelRox
I endorse this post
I fully endorse the endorsing of this post, and as a special bonus, I'm going to give you a sneak preview of the abaddon infomercial waiting to be aired right as we speak... see edit
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MySkills | Module/Rig stacknerfing explained |
Speed Devil
Caldari
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.19 15:04:00 -
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might asswell buy 3 dominixes
Originally by: Merkanas
To people who can't understand: there are rules and there are morals, don't get them confused. If rules allow it and you have no moral objection, by all means... have fun. |
Ikarushka
Gallente
A.O.U. Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.19 15:19:00 -
[39]
wouldn't it be cheaper to war dec them?)
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Speed Devil
Caldari
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.19 15:22:00 -
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alot of miners are in npc corps, and they have to die someday :)
Originally by: Merkanas
To people who can't understand: there are rules and there are morals, don't get them confused. If rules allow it and you have no moral objection, by all means... have fun. |
Dramaan
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Posted - 2007.03.19 16:18:00 -
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Edited by: Dramaan on 19/03/2007 16:20:55
Edited by: Dramaan on 19/03/2007 16:17:11
why the prices are geting lower for hi end minrals here some qlue:there aremore space in revelasion then it was in rmr ther more alliances in 0.0 then before.
Some allinces that do every ting to get porfit like: trade more minrals for less price and puching the price down.
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Trind2222
Amarr
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.03.19 16:21:00 -
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oops my alt
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