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Vatashago
Gallente
Inner Void
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Posted - 2007.03.08 22:09:00 -
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Alright, so I've been looking at the guides to salvaging and rigs and I'm wondering if it's profitable if you collect all the parts yourself? And if yes, then what rigs are in demand and that I could sell easily?
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Jei'son Bladesmith
Caldari
Bladesmith Mining and Development Consortium
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Posted - 2007.03.08 22:24:00 -
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The rig market has become pretty well saturated that there's really (so far as I've seen) not a huge profit margin to be found, at least not on T1 rigs - after you figure in BP costs, reseach/manufacturing costs, etc, etc. (although considering the huge investment in time and money it takes to invent a T2 rig BPC, I doubt theres really that much profit to be had at the end of the day there either)
That being said I do make a tidy profit salvaging, building rigs for personal/corp use, and selling excess parts, but I think its reached a point where only those who mass-produce rigs can count on a solid profit.
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Humpalot
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Posted - 2007.03.09 00:26:00 -
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As an example I have excellent build skills (perfect in this case). A few weeks ago I built a Capacitor Control Rig for myself off of an unresearched BPO. If I recall correctly it cost me around 26 million to build it myself (counting the prices of the mats at reasonable going rates) versus around 29 million to buy one.
So, 3 million profit is not too bad really. Get that BPO researched and you could do better. Takes about 8 minutes to produce one rig so that is nice and fast too.
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Tayvar Tal
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2007.03.09 02:32:00 -
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I'm new to rigs also. I don't think it's worth building or buying them as a newbie. It seems to me that if you could gather enough parts yourself you could make a big one off profit. As a newbie it seems awfully slow process. Some of the parts themselves are worth a lot and by building a rig, you sacrifice that.
You could buy the parts, but the profit is so low. There are other ways to make a few million ISK that don't take as long such as selling the parts.
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Vatashago
Gallente
Inner Void
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Posted - 2007.03.09 05:12:00 -
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So if I were to collect all the salvage bits myself and bought one of the cheaper BPO's, I could make a one-off bit of money with some effort(ex:salvaging the wrecks myself). Or would I be better off just selling the salvage I find?
And if making rigs on a small-time basis is profitable, what rigs are in high demand now?
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Tulisin Dragonflame
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Posted - 2007.03.09 05:19:00 -
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The cap/PG rigs are in particular demand because they have no downside, Capacitor Control Circuits are very popular.
Also look into armor/shield tank rigs, they're all the rage.
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Matalino
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.09 05:36:00 -
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Edited by: Matalino on 09/03/2007 05:33:32
Unless you have trained Production Efficiency to level 5 already, then you will be better off selling the salvage components. There is not that big of a margin on building the rigs. Also the prices are dropping as the supply of components is increasing and the novelty of rigs decreases, so it is better to sell them now and buy them up again after the price drops some more.
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Redsan
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Posted - 2007.03.09 05:55:00 -
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You can find large run, researched BPCs for most rigs fairly cheap. With PE3, I make more from making a handfull of rigs with salvaged items than I would selling the items. Not a huge profit margin(1 to 5 mil per rig sold), but a definate profit. I tend to make things with salvage and the minerals from reprocessing loot over just selling the salvage and minerals. I don't make a large profit, but I enjoy the aspect of making items people want.
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Tulisin Dragonflame
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Posted - 2007.03.09 06:42:00 -
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I disagree on the needing skills too, rigs are selling way above what their components are costing at the moment, heck even in the same region you can usually save millions by buying the salvaged stuff and hammering it together.
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AvatarADV
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Posted - 2007.03.09 09:26:00 -
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There's also generally a biiiig gap between the current sell prices and the best buy order in most regions, wrt. salvaged parts. Patience and buy orders can yield a much larger profit margin than just going out and buying the parts... 'cos, same goes for selling the parts too, so there's that.
Rig manufacture isn't fantastic money if you have excellent skills and experience, but it also has a much lower barrier to entry than most manufacture - the BPOs are friggin' cheap and you can get the salvage in quantity yourself.
At the same time, people aren't going to tell you what they're manufacturing for a profit, because, er, they're making a profit right now and don't want the competition. If you want to figure out what you can make a profit on, fire up the WSDB rig builder page, the market window, and a calculator, and do some math...
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Tayvar Tal
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2007.03.09 20:18:00 -
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just wondering what's a good number of sales per day for rigs. In my region it seems 1 or 2 is the norm for most items.
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Jefferson Dubois
Midnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.03.09 21:17:00 -
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 Originally by: Tayvar Tal
I'm new to rigs also. I don't think it's worth building or buying them as a newbie. It seems to me that if you could gather enough parts yourself you could make a big one off profit. As a newbie it seems awfully slow process. Some of the parts themselves are worth a lot and by building a rig, you sacrifice that.
You could buy the parts, but the profit is so low. There are other ways to make a few million ISK that don't take as long such as selling the parts.
You need to look harder. I am buying valuable salvage parts in large quantities and reselling them in trade hubs for 60-80% profit. 30-60 million a day flipping one or two salvage types. Volume is the key.
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