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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.07.21 14:31:33 -
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Back in March, we announced adding support for Wine as an alternative to Cider, the wrapper used to run the EVE client on OS X. The feedback we have received has been very positive, with most players reporting improved stability and performance. We are now planning to stop supporting Cider in September, so we encourage everybody that hasn't done so already to switch to Wine. The latest launcher prompts you to make the switch to Wine, making this process quite straight-forward.
What is Wine? As stated on www.winehq.org Wine is a compatibility layer capable of running Windows application on several POSIX-compliant operating systems, such as Linux, Mac OSX and BSD. Instead of simulating internal Windows logic like a virtual machine or emulator, Wine translates Windows API calls into POSIX calls on-the-fly, eliminating the performance and memory penalties of other methods and allowing you to cleanly integrate Windows applications into your desktop.
Wine options You shouldn't have to change any Wine options, and these may change at any time as we get feedback. For now, the main option is what version of Wine should be used - we provide daily builds from the Wine git repository (git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git). If you select 'Use dev versions' you can choose any of a number of recent daily builds, or to always use the latest one. If you leave the dev versions checkbox unchecked, you can select from stable builds that have had some testing. The WINEDEBUG field allows you to set a value for the WINEDEBUG environment variable that controls debugging output from Wine. This can be useful for tracking down issues, but should in general be left empty.
What if it doesn't work? Go to Preferences and select Cider for the wrapper, then everything should work as it did before. Please do tell us about it, either by posting in the feedback thread or by filing a bug report. Our goal is to improve the Mac experience and we need your feedback on this to do that.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
1082
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Posted - 2016.07.21 14:32:21 -
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Known issues
- Launcher needs to be restarted after changing wrapper type
- Launcher needs to be restarted after changing Wine version
- There are stability issues with busy scenes at high resolutions. This actually applies to Cider as well.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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ashahara
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2016.07.21 17:08:29 -
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I'm having pretty much a faultless experience under wine , long may it continue. |
Wanttaebolt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.07.21 19:38:20 -
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Wine is great on my 13" Macbook whilst running fullscreen. However when I switch to windowed mode (which I have to do to look at my browser or multi box) the default Mac resolution kicks in meaning my window is too big for the screen. I can reduce the resolution however this messes up all my windows and looks horrible.
On Cider I could have native mac res with a high res eve window, however I could not stretch or resize this window on the fly.
I can't seem to increase my Macbook resolution to the same as I run Eve at. Google has not helped and now I only got a month to find a solution before Cider support is ended.
Can anyone help? |
Io Achari
Rainbow Company
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Posted - 2016.07.22 06:37:05 -
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Wanttaebolt wrote:Wine is great on my 13" Macbook whilst running fullscreen. However when I switch to windowed mode (which I have to do to look at my browser or multi box) the default Mac resolution kicks in meaning my window is too big for the screen. I can reduce the resolution however this messes up all my windows and looks horrible.
On Cider I could have native mac res with a high res eve window, however I could not stretch or resize this window on the fly.
I can't seem to increase my Macbook resolution to the same as I run Eve at. Google has not helped and now I only got a month to find a solution before Cider support is ended.
Can anyone help?
i'm having the same problem with fixed window mode |
Plodding
The First Foundation SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2016.07.22 08:39:01 -
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Part of my screen help to you https://yadi.sk/i/bRvrEU3OtXLir or mb not, have the same option on 13"?
At first look client is much higher performance, thx for this update |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
1083
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Posted - 2016.07.22 09:39:14 -
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Wanttaebolt wrote:Wine is great on my 13" Macbook whilst running fullscreen. However when I switch to windowed mode (which I have to do to look at my browser or multi box) the default Mac resolution kicks in meaning my window is too big for the screen. I can reduce the resolution however this messes up all my windows and looks horrible.
On Cider I could have native mac res with a high res eve window, however I could not stretch or resize this window on the fly.
I can't seem to increase my Macbook resolution to the same as I run Eve at. Google has not helped and now I only got a month to find a solution before Cider support is ended.
Can anyone help? Do you have a Retina display?
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Lucas Ballard
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.07.22 21:40:17 -
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Cider has been glitchy for me, with the game locking up randomly from time to time. (I've lost two sets of Sisters probes as a result, though the devs have been nice and given them back to me.
However I am having a MUCH WORSE experience with WINE on my mid-2011 Thunderbolt iMac. Twice now I have tried to use it, and both times the same exact same issue occurs:
* I login and arrive at my station, and after I open my Beta Map to plan a route, there is a sound alert, and my mouse cursor changes to a question mark. * Then less than 10 seconds later, I get the beach ball of death. The screen is locked on the station and I cannot interact with it, though the music is still playing. * I can use Alt-Tab to select other apps that might be open, but the screen never changes. I can use Alt-Tab to quit other applications, including the game client. However I am unable to quit the WINE Launcher. * I am unable to get back to anything else, including the Finder, and I am forced to do a hard restart of the machine.
I have just submitted a bug report, and I will try again later to see if I can do it a third time and get a screenshot or two.
HELP?
Model Name:iMac Model Identifier:iMac12,2 Processor Name:Intel Core i7 Processor Speed:3.4 GHz Number of Processors:1 Total Number of Cores:4 L2 Cache (per Core):256 KB L3 Cache:8 MB Memory:16 GB Boot ROM Version:IM121.0047.B23 SMC Version (system):1.72f1
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Jimmy Shimmer
Retired Orphans of Eve
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Posted - 2016.07.22 22:31:10 -
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Mid-2011 iMac here, 3.4GHz i7. Graphics is AMD Radeon HD 6970M.
Game is super smooth on Cider - 45+ FPS with all graphics on and maxed except antialiasing. Switched to Wine, left defaults. Looked on in station, maybe a tad slower, but after undocking graphics run full speed about a second, pause, then run normal a second, then pause, etc. FPS counter actually shows "peaks" occurring at that time. The slight frame rate drop is disappointing but the glitching/pausing breaks the game. If you need additional logs/data please let me know. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
1084
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Posted - 2016.07.22 23:44:44 -
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Jimmy Shimmer wrote:Mid-2011 iMac here, 3.4GHz i7. Graphics is AMD Radeon HD 6970M.
Game is super smooth on Cider - 45+ FPS with all graphics on and maxed except antialiasing. Switched to Wine, left defaults. Looked on in station, maybe a tad slower, but after undocking graphics run full speed about a second, pause, then run normal a second, then pause, etc. FPS counter actually shows "peaks" occurring at that time. The slight frame rate drop is disappointing but the glitching/pausing breaks the game. If you need additional logs/data please let me know. Please file a bug report from within the game - that'll include logs and system specs.
Could you try some different settings, in particular turning off post-processing? Let me know what effect, if any, that has. Also try a smaller window size.
Most players see improved performance from what I've seen so far, so I'm interested in finding out what makes your experience different.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
1084
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Posted - 2016.07.22 23:48:22 -
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Lucas Ballard wrote:Cider has been glitchy for me, with the game locking up randomly from time to time. (I've lost two sets of Sisters probes as a result, though the devs have been nice and given them back to me.
However I am having a MUCH WORSE experience with WINE on my mid-2011 Thunderbolt iMac. Twice now I have tried to use it, and both times the same exact same issue occurs:
* I login and arrive at my station, and after I open my Beta Map to plan a route, there is a sound alert, and my mouse cursor changes to a question mark. * Then less than 10 seconds later, I get the beach ball of death. The screen is locked on the station and I cannot interact with it, though the music is still playing. * I can use Alt-Tab to select other apps that might be open, but the screen never changes. I can use Alt-Tab to quit other applications, including the game client. However I am unable to quit the WINE Launcher. * I am unable to get back to anything else, including the Finder, and I am forced to do a hard restart of the machine.
I have just submitted a bug report, and I will try again later to see if I can do it a third time and get a screenshot or two.
HELP?
Model Name:iMac Model Identifier:iMac12,2 Processor Name:Intel Core i7 Processor Speed:3.4 GHz Number of Processors:1 Total Number of Cores:4 L2 Cache (per Core):256 KB L3 Cache:8 MB Memory:16 GB Boot ROM Version:IM121.0047.B23 SMC Version (system):1.72f1
Could you try running at a lower resolution, and lower graphics settings, in particular the post-processing and anti-aliasing? It sounds like it might be running out of memory, this would help confirm it. Please add this information to the bug report.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Jimmy Shimmer
Retired Orphans of Eve
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Posted - 2016.07.23 01:19:46 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote: Please file a bug report from within the game - that'll include logs and system specs.
Could you try some different settings, in particular turning off post-processing? Let me know what effect, if any, that has. Also try a smaller window size.
Most players see improved performance from what I've seen so far, so I'm interested in finding out what makes your experience different.
Switched Wine versions a couple of times, back on the default "latest" choice and weird pausing/glitching is gone, so not sure what that was about. Frame rate is still about 10-15fps lower. Will play with graphics options but normally all are set to "High" except antialiasing. Will file a bug report as requested. |
Daxx D'arkon
DAWGS Corp. I N F A M O U S
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Posted - 2016.07.23 04:06:23 -
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I updated from Cider to Wine today.
Fullscreen mode works great. It's noticeably faster and smoother on my macbook pro 15" retina at 2880x1800.
When I run windowed mode with a smaller resolution so that I can work with my other windows, the client begins to glitch. If I try to drag and move a window to reposition it, it will jerk and stutter as it moves across the screen. While in empty space, clicking in space and dragging it to reposition the camera will also display the same jerky stutter or shaking. One time, while moving the camera, it got stuck or something and the screen starting spinning in circles very fast until I tried to move the camera somewhere else. Very dizzy. I was unable to recreate this.
Going to fullscreen seems to resolve these issues instantly. |
Selena Na'sharr
Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance
12
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Posted - 2016.07.23 12:51:30 -
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I've switched to Wine the other day and it works great, except for 2 things: * Bookmark ordening seems to be different for special characters (I used to put an asterisk in front of important bookmarks to place them at top, but now they end up at the bottom of the list. * the sensitivity of setting the scanning probe resolution using ALT-scrolling is off the chart and isn't usable as a result. |
Kelmantis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.07.23 13:20:51 -
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When changing desktops it minimises the client when in full screen mode |
Plodding
The First Foundation SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2016.07.23 21:04:02 -
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Hello, Few days ago I switched to Wine client press Yes button when clauncher ask me, but today when I start Eve Launcher and start the game client, it start in old mode. Before https://yadi.sk/i/UX2eN47ztZgqX today https://yadi.sk/i/wmwCLDD_tZgsP Would you explain me how always lunch with wine? Thanks |
Wanttaebolt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.07.23 23:17:15 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Wanttaebolt wrote:Wine is great on my 13" Macbook whilst running fullscreen. However when I switch to windowed mode (which I have to do to look at my browser or multi box) the default Mac resolution kicks in meaning my window is too big for the screen. I can reduce the resolution however this messes up all my windows and looks horrible.
On Cider I could have native mac res with a high res eve window, however I could not stretch or resize this window on the fly.
I can't seem to increase my Macbook resolution to the same as I run Eve at. Google has not helped and now I only got a month to find a solution before Cider support is ended.
Can anyone help? Do you have a Retina display?
Yes, I have a Retina display |
Bodaaa
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
7
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Posted - 2016.07.24 04:40:29 -
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Wanttaebolt wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Wanttaebolt wrote:Wine is great on my 13" Macbook whilst running fullscreen. However when I switch to windowed mode (which I have to do to look at my browser or multi box) the default Mac resolution kicks in meaning my window is too big for the screen. I can reduce the resolution however this messes up all my windows and looks horrible.
On Cider I could have native mac res with a high res eve window, however I could not stretch or resize this window on the fly.
I can't seem to increase my Macbook resolution to the same as I run Eve at. Google has not helped and now I only got a month to find a solution before Cider support is ended.
Can anyone help? Do you have a Retina display? Yes, I have a Retina display
This has kept me from switching to Wine as well. Hope it can be fixed.
15" MPBR |
Lucas Ballard
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.07.24 23:23:30 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote: Could you try running at a lower resolution, and lower graphics settings, in particular the post-processing and anti-aliasing? It sounds like it might be running out of memory, this would help confirm it. Please add this information to the bug report.
I tried it again, and switched the graphics to a lower setting, turned post-processing to low, and already had anti aliasing disabled. Changes took effect, and then the second I opened the map, the cursor was a question mark again, and the client locked up as before.
Tried again, found that everything was fine with the lower settings, until I opened the Map Beta. Crashed as before. Tried again, turned settings back up, tweaked a couple of things, and it ran just fine... UNTIL I opened the Map Beta. Then it instantly changed the cursor to a question mark and got the beach ball of death.
It seemed to be tied to the Map Beta. Every time I tried to access it when I am docked this happened.
BUT I realized that I have a gaming mouse with the default Ctrl + F10 for the Map Beta shortcut set to a button. So on a lark I changed that, in case there was a conflict of some sort.
When I changed the keystroke binding to something else and changed the command in EVE, the problem went away.
So somehow there was a conflict with the command using the mouse software and WINE. Should not happen, but it was happening. Now the problem appears to be resolved. I am going to play with WINE now and see how it runs and will report on how that goes. But for now the mystery crash is gone. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
1086
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Posted - 2016.07.25 10:45:52 -
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It seems I forgot to persist the changed settings - I'll have to release another launcher update today. I'm sorry for the inconvenience.
You can also change this manually in the launcher Preferences.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Gavascon
need more power inc. Murder By Numbers Alliance
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Posted - 2016.07.25 13:32:47 -
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switched to wine this morning. firstly, thanking CCP for taking the time to preserve all window and overview settings during the conversion. saved a lot of time - much appreciated.
secondly, am running 2 clients. entered "windowed" mode and quickly noticed the top portion of each window has been cut off - about 1/2 inch worth. this is a huge disadvantage. is there any way to fix this? |
Mags Trigelian
Running with Dogs Stella Nova
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Posted - 2016.07.25 14:31:42 -
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I usually run my two accounts in window mode in separate spaces. This worked fine until recently and allowed for easy swiping between sessions.
As of week 29 '16 my wine sessions sometimes freeze followed by a wine error. This seems to affect the 2nd wine session more than it does the first but both suffer from this problem.
Possible causes: a recent game patch OR the most recent osx update.
The problem does not seem occur when I run in Fixed Window mode but the disadvantage is that any window I have open has an impact on he game's framerate.
I have already raised a bug report for this (which sadly I cannot find unless I raise another bug i guess :-)
osx 10.11.6. dev version option switched off latest wine version, tried older ones but the same problem occurs
Can you please advise ?
o7
Mags.
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Outlaws Star
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.07.25 17:53:51 -
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Pressed yes today, and the client won't start the game at all. Tried installing a new client, didn't work. I can't see where to to turn off wine in any other client menus. Downloaded steam, to see if the client would work from there, it didn't.
http://i.imgur.com/b0DK2Pc.png
Getting that every time i try to start the game.
Specs.
http://imgur.com/gXgRMNC.
I literally run eve on this macbook and that is it! Plus I'm stuck in a hotel pretty bored! HALP. |
Thoren Vaille
American Federation of Musicians Local 148-462
14
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Posted - 2016.07.25 19:10:52 -
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Looks great. Big visual improvement over the Cider client.
Unfortunately, after cmd-tabbing out of the game and back in, I see a huge performance hit from 40fps down to something between 10-15 depending on what's on screen. Warping is the worst.
Will try some settings to figure out why, but here's the reproduction steps:
1. Open the game in Wine 2. Cmd-tab to any other window (usually to check zkill or something) 3. Cmd-tab back to the game 4. Suffer massive performance hit
Model Name:iMac Model Identifier:iMac13,2 Processor Name:Intel Core i7 Processor Speed:3.4 GHz Number of Processors:1 Total Number of Cores:4 L2 Cache (per Core):256 KB L3 Cache:8 MB Memory:8 GB
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who1 eva
KEQ Industrial Complex
10
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Posted - 2016.07.25 19:53:42 -
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Actually, it's worse then that. Selecting "wine latest" as my version of wine, "Window mode" not only has a ~1/2 inch thickness worth of screen missing at the top but then your mouse pointer needs to be about another ~1/2 inch below what you want to click on in order to select anything. So for buttons, you have to click below the button in order to actually press it. Similarly, all UI interactions have to factor in this offset. This effectively makes the game unplayable in this mode.
In "fixed window" mode, you can use the mouse pointer correctly but on my 2015 Macbook Pro with Retina display, I'm struggling to find a resolution that works as well as what I had under Cider. The laptop has a 2560 x 1600 resolution but I have to use 1280 x 768 in "fixed window" mode to make it work which is too low resolution to be enjoyable.
Any hints on how to play Eve in Wine on my MacPro in window mode with at least as good an experience as I have using Cider?
Thanks!
who1 eva
Gavascon wrote:switched to wine this morning. firstly, thanking CCP for taking the time to preserve all window and overview settings during the conversion. saved a lot of time - much appreciated.
secondly, am running 2 clients. entered "windowed" mode and quickly noticed the top portion of each window has been cut off - about 1/2 inch worth. this is a huge disadvantage. is there any way to fix this?
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
1086
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Posted - 2016.07.25 19:57:50 -
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who1 eva wrote:Actually, it's worse then that. Selecting "wine latest" as my version of wine, "Window mode" not only has a ~1/2 inch thickness worth of screen missing at the top but then your mouse pointer needs to be about another ~1/2 inch below what you want to click on in order to select anything. So for buttons, you have to click below the button in order to actually press it. Similarly, all UI interactions have to factor in this offset. This effectively makes the game unplayable in this mode. In "fixed window" mode, you can use the mouse pointer correctly but on my 2015 Macbook Pro with Retina display, I'm struggling to find a resolution that works as well as what I had under Cider. The laptop has a 2560 x 1600 resolution but I have to use 1280 x 768 in "fixed window" mode to make it work which is too low resolution to be enjoyable. Any hints on how to play Eve in Wine on my MacPro in window mode with at least as good an experience as I have using Cider? Thanks! who1 eva Gavascon wrote:switched to wine this morning. firstly, thanking CCP for taking the time to preserve all window and overview settings during the conversion. saved a lot of time - much appreciated.
secondly, am running 2 clients. entered "windowed" mode and quickly noticed the top portion of each window has been cut off - about 1/2 inch worth. this is a huge disadvantage. is there any way to fix this? I have seen this mouse offset once, haven-Št been able to reproduce it and it resolved itself when I resized the window. If you drag the window edges to resize, does that fix the mouse offset?
I need to investigate issues with the resolution on Retina displays - need to get my hands on a Macbook Pro with such a display.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Xenon Aspirse
I.K.O.N
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Posted - 2016.07.25 21:29:34 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Back in March, we announced adding support for Wine as an alternative to Cider, the wrapper used to run the EVE client on OS X. The feedback we have received has been very positive, with most players reporting improved stability and performance. We are now planning to stop supporting Cider in September, so we encourage everybody that hasn't done so already to switch to Wine. The latest launcher prompts you to make the switch to Wine, making this process quite straight-forward. What is Wine?As stated on www.winehq.org Wine is a compatibility layer capable of running Windows application on several POSIX-compliant operating systems, such as Linux, Mac OSX and BSD. Instead of simulating internal Windows logic like a virtual machine or emulator, Wine translates Windows API calls into POSIX calls on-the-fly, eliminating the performance and memory penalties of other methods and allowing you to cleanly integrate Windows applications into your desktop. Wine optionsYou shouldn't have to change any Wine options, and these may change at any time as we get feedback. For now, the main option is what version of Wine should be used - we provide daily builds from the Wine git repository (git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git). If you select 'Use dev versions' you can choose any of a number of recent daily builds, or to always use the latest one. If you leave the dev versions checkbox unchecked, you can select from stable builds that have had some testing. The WINEDEBUG field allows you to set a value for the WINEDEBUG environment variable that controls debugging output from Wine. This can be useful for tracking down issues, but should in general be left empty. What if it doesn't work?Go to Preferences and select Cider for the wrapper, then everything should work as it did before. Please do tell us about it, either by posting in the feedback thread or by filing a bug report. Our goal is to improve the Mac experience and we need your feedback on this to do that. EDIT: The last launcher update failed to persist the Wine preference - there is a second update where you may be prompted again - apologies for the inconvenience. Worst decision of my life to switch, Eve is at the moment not loading up. When I click the arrow to play it just appears green and the square appears. The green line under my name also appears and the Launcher is fully responsive (Not crashing) |
Milton Davis
The Meaning of Haste
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Posted - 2016.07.26 04:32:20 -
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I made the switch to Wine today and I'm seeing some graphical artifacts, along with a major performance hit. The artifacts only appear with Shader Quality set to High. While the performance problem isn't constant with shaders turned down, my frame rate drops around 60% every 15 seconds before jumping back up to full speed (regardless of interval setting).
As for the artifacts, this is what I've noticed so far:
- It appears as though the depth buffer isn't being respected, particularly with anything to do with lights or reflections. This occurs inside stations and in space.
- There are rendering artifacts in the smoke in stations.
Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/MEelk4X.png (smoke artifacts circled)
I've tried deleting the wine folders in the Shared Cache and verifying integrity. I haven't had an issue with stability yet; hasn't crashed for a half hour.
OS X 10.11.5 iMac 27" Late 2013 i5 3.4GHz GTX 775M w/ nVidia Web Driver version 346.03.10f02 (haven't tested with native Apple drivers yet) Edit: I just noticed that it's not detecting my graphics card correctly, though Cider does. Wine is reporting it as "NVIDIA GeForce 6800 1"
Topic watched; let me know if I can provide any more info to help. |
who1 eva
KEQ Industrial Complex
10
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Posted - 2016.07.26 07:24:03 -
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Yes, I can confirm that. Moving the window does not change anything but resizing resolves the offset problem. But then quitting and restarting results in the offset problem coming back.
Hope that helps! If you have anything more you'd like me to try, feel free to ask and I'll see what I can do...
--who1 eva
I have seen this mouse offset once, haven-Št been able to reproduce it and it resolved itself when I resized the window. If you drag the window edges to resize, does that fix the mouse offset?
I need to investigate issues with the resolution on Retina displays - need to get my hands on a Macbook Pro with such a display.[/quote]
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Gavascon
need more power inc. Murder By Numbers Alliance
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Posted - 2016.07.26 13:26:01 -
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i stumbled across a 99% solution to the 1/2 inch issue.
1) opened system preferences 2) clicked on "dock" to open sub-menu 3) checked the box to hide it
that gave 1/2 inch at the bottom of the screen dragged eve client window to the bottom to fill the screen problem almost solved.
now cursor is off by 1 line when highlighting anything. not perfect by any measure, but much better than before. |
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