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Aux Aliette DED 25	Posted - 2016.07.24 16:36:05 - [1] - Quote Good afternoon capsuleers, In recent weeks we've seen an increase in reports regarding personal attacks, nationalist abuse, baiting, racism and unfounded allegations made against a number of GalNET users. This is a short and direct reminder for those capsuleers who choose to utilize the Intergalactic Summit that there are rules in place, and these rules will be adhered to. While the Communications Relay Committee tends to take a more passive approach to moderation of the Intergalactic Summit, favoring open freedom of speech and expression, it would appear that a number of independent pilots have taken in upon themselves to take advantage of this. Please be aware that failure to adhere to the rules laid out by the Communications Relay Committee may result in your pilot CISC being suspended from accessing the Intergalactic Summit either temporarily or permanently, depending on the severity of the breach of communications policy. In addition to this, temporary or permanent suspension of flight status may also be invoked by the DED in extraordinary cases where warranted. The Communications Relay Committee encourages anyone who feels that a breach of the rules has taken place to report it through the proper channels. However, please be aware that repeated, targeted reporting against individuals whose viewpoints you do not agree with will be treated as a breach of the CRC Communications policy, and will be actioned as is appropriate. Please ensure you read and fully understand the CRC Communications policy before utilizing the Intergalactic Summit further. There will be no questions answered regarding this reminder at this time, however this thread will remain open for discussion. Regards, Aux Aliette IGS Communications Director Communications Relay Committee Directive Enforcement Department CONCORD Assembly IGS Communications Director-á \|\|-á Directive Enforcement Department-á \|\|-á CONCORD Assembly
Charles Cambridge Schmidt Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 145	Posted - 2016.07.24 16:41:24 - [2] - Quote Cool! Thanks. It's gotten pretty bad. Maybe this will improve the quality of the Summit. Just maybe. I don't care what you think, as long as it's about me.
Vizage Capital Allied Industrial Distribution Evictus. 216	Posted - 2016.07.24 16:46:01 - [3] - Quote Oh well this is welcomed news. Hopefully it signals a change in course for the igs and not just a Stern reminder.
Halfrek Foley Hematology Advancement Program Bleeders 57	Posted - 2016.07.24 17:06:19 - [4] - Quote Charles Cambridge Schmidt wrote: Cool! Thanks. It's gotten pretty bad. Maybe this will improve the quality of the Summit. Just maybe. Only the quality of posts can improve the quality. This will just force less people to post here. So while it may improve quality for ded and freedom supporters, by eliminating any opposite perspectives, it will degrade to less frequent and less quality posts in general.
Vizage Capital Allied Industrial Distribution Evictus. 219	Posted - 2016.07.24 18:06:57 - [5] - Quote At no point in that post is there anything that hints at opposition suppression. All it says is get your point across in a polite manner. If you can't do that then I suggest etiquette classes.
Steffanie Saissore Tyrathlion Interstellar Rote Kapelle 489	Posted - 2016.07.24 19:36:44 - [6] - Quote Halfrek Foley wrote: Only the quality of posts can improve the quality. This will just force less people to post here. So while it may improve quality for ded and freedom supporters, by eliminating any opposite perspectives, it will degrade to less frequent and less quality posts in general. People are allowed to have contrarian opinions and are free to express them, in a polite and meaningful way. That is not being referred to by the OP. Also, claiming that the enforcing of established rules will decrease the number of active posters is a fallacy. The number of active posters has declined because of the ongoing breeches of etiquette as well as breaking the established rules as set forth by the Communications Relay Committee. Please realize that posting to this forum is a privilege and not a right and that your privilege can be revoked if you are found in breech of those rules. Feel free to disagree with people, but keep it polite and on point. We travel in the dark of the new moon, A starry highway traced on the map of the sky
Ria Nieyli 45756	Posted - 2016.07.24 20:02:56 - [7] - Quote Are people that abuse the report system going to be subjected to the same penalties as abberant posters? "slang" is shortened language for "shortened language"
Halfrek Foley Hematology Advancement Program Bleeders 57	Posted - 2016.07.24 21:55:41 - [8] - Quote Steffanie Saissore wrote: Halfrek Foley wrote: Only the quality of posts can improve the quality. This will just force less people to post here. So while it may improve quality for ded and freedom supporters, by eliminating any opposite perspectives, it will degrade to less frequent and less quality posts in general. People are allowed to have contrarian opinions and are free to express them, in a polite and meaningful way. That is not being referred to by the OP. Also, claiming that the enforcing of established rules will decrease the number of active posters is a fallacy. The number of active posters has declined because of the ongoing breeches of etiquette as well as breaking the established rules as set forth by the Communications Relay Committee. Please realize that posting to this forum is a privilege and not a right and that your privilege can be revoked if you are found in breech of those rules. Feel free to disagree with people, but keep it polite and on point. Our corporation only follows Covenant Law, the DED has no say in what we do. As a director of Hematology Advancement Program, I am prohibiting any of our members from further posting in the DED controlled Intergalactic Summit forum and chat channel. Any member breaking our rules will be dealt with by the fullest extent of Covenant Law! So the number of active posters from us will decline because of the DED's proposed enforcement!
Jaret Victorian Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium 454	Posted - 2016.07.24 22:29:11 - [9] - Quote Halfrek Foley wrote: Our corporation only follows Covenant Law, the DED has no say in what we do. That's cute. Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Follow us on GalNet!
Sanguina Dieudonne Amok. Goonswarm Federation 90	Posted - 2016.07.25 01:30:11 - [10] - Quote Halfrek Foley wrote: Our corporation only follows Covenant Law, the DED has no say in what we do. As a director of Hematology Advancement Program, I am prohibiting any of our members from further posting in the DED controlled Intergalactic Summit forum and chat channel. Any member breaking our rules will be dealt with by the fullest extent of Covenant Law! So the number of active posters from us will decline because of the DED's proposed enforcement! A wise choice. One I fully support.

Jason Galente Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 647	Posted - 2016.07.25 03:00:40 - [11] - Quote Thank you. Pretty sad that this was really necessary, and I suspect the small handful of people causing this problem for the rest of us (one unnamed person in particular) are too stubborn to change and we will eventually not be seeing them around if enforcement ramps up. And, it's sad to say it, but nothing of value will be lost. Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended. *At any cost*
Jason Galente Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 647	Posted - 2016.07.25 03:02:50 - [12] - Quote Halfrek Foley wrote: So the number of active posters from us will decline because of the DED's proposed enforcement! Bye Felicia. Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended. *At any cost*
Utari Onzo Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1245	Posted - 2016.07.25 05:59:00 - [13] - Quote Steffanie Saissore wrote: Also, claiming that the enforcing of established rules will decrease the number of active posters is a fallacy. The number of active posters has declined because of the ongoing breeches of etiquette as well as breaking the established rules as set forth by the Communications Relay Committee. Please realize that posting to this forum is a privilege and not a right and that your privilege can be revoked if you are found in breech of those rules. Feel free to disagree with people, but keep it polite and on point. Couldn't agree more. The blatant level of toxicity and pettiness that's regularly on display on these forums has severely curtailed my enjoyment of it. Thing is, this goes just as much towards the usual suspects as those that poke at them with sticks to get a rise out of them. If moderation improves, or at the very least actually starts happening (as I have seen very few examples of moderation here despite multiple threads entering the realm of farce and poison) then I might enjoy the place more. "Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2737	Posted - 2016.07.25 09:08:50 - [14] - Quote I believe there are several provocative discussion threads that shall be locked and/or deleted from the IGS front page. I hope the situation will improve now. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Che Biko Alexylva Paradox 851	Posted - 2016.07.25 14:18:12 - [15] - Quote Halfrek Foley wrote: So the number of active posters from us will decline because of the DED's proposed enforcement! Yeah, I'm sure it has nothing to do with this: Halfrek Foley wrote: As a director of Hematology Advancement Program, I am prohibiting any of our members from further posting in the DED controlled Intergalactic Summit forum and chat channel. Any member breaking our rules will be dealt with by the fullest extent of Covenant Law! _ Utari Onzo wrote: If moderation improves, or at the very least actually starts happening (as I have seen very few examples of moderation here despite multiple threads entering the realm of farce and poison) then I might enjoy the place more. Well, I'm thinking that we may have a considerable part to play in this: Aux Aliette wrote: While the Communications Relay Committee tends to take a more passive approach to moderation of the Intergalactic Summit [..] The Communications Relay Committee encourages anyone who feels that a breach of the rules has taken place to report it through the proper channels. Some people may have stopped reporting as much as they used to. I'm frequenting another forum for capsuleers, where a situation occured that looks a bit similar to me: people complained about a lack of moderation, the mods responded that they were not getting reports of bad posts. Coordination Channel for Consolidated Space Rescue Cooperation Open Letter to the Aidonis Foundation Directorate
Claudia Osyn Non-Hostile Target 2016	Posted - 2016.07.27 21:24:33 - [16] - Quote I, Claudia Amelia Testarossa Wingate Lillithella Osyn MDCXXXIV, Goddess of the IGS, most beloved by some, source of ire for others, hereby endorse this reminder and support the actions of my minions. A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Slayer Liberator Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 79	Posted - 2016.07.28 00:40:20 - [17] - Quote Claudia Osyn wrote: I, Claudia Amelia Testarossa Wingate Lillithella Osyn MDCXXXIV, Goddess of the IGS, most beloved by some, source of ire for others, hereby endorse this reminder and support the actions of my minions. I am humbled to be in your presence
Makoto Priano Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium 8508	Posted - 2016.07.28 14:51:12 - [18] - Quote Wow. I wish Aliette showed as much regard for the people Kim constantly harasses, hounds, and drives away as for Kim. Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
Slayer Liberator Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 80	Posted - 2016.07.28 16:03:12 - [19] - Quote Makoto Priano wrote: Wow. I wish Aliette showed as much regard for the people Kim constantly harasses, hounds, and drives away as for Kim. Me too
Makoto Priano Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium 8516	Posted - 2016.07.28 16:07:52 - [20] - Quote After some additional thought, let's see how this plays out. It may be that Aliette intends a new effort in Summit moderation, and Galente kept running while Kim's actually quieted down. Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?

Steffanie Saissore Tyrathlion Interstellar Rote Kapelle 495	Posted - 2016.07.28 16:09:24 - [21] - Quote Halfrek Foley wrote: Our corporation only follows Covenant Law, the DED has no say in what we do. As a director of Hematology Advancement Program, I am prohibiting any of our members from further posting in the DED controlled Intergalactic Summit forum and chat channel. Any member breaking our rules will be dealt with by the fullest extent of Covenant Law! So the number of active posters from us will decline because of the DED's proposed enforcement! You do realize that by posting to this forum, you agree to abide by the rules set forth by the DED? But please, by all means, continue to believe that you are not held accountable to the DED rules. We travel in the dark of the new moon, A starry highway traced on the map of the sky
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2737	Posted - 2016.07.28 19:12:40 - [22] - Quote I would like to express gratitude to CONCORD for their operation and closure of disturbing thread. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
iyammarrok Mining Company The Suicidal Spaceship Squadron 440	Posted - 2016.07.28 21:05:03 - [23] - Quote Aux, Speak to Graelyn. There is some insight to be gained there. -Tertianus Rethelior. Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.
Aux Aliette DED 34	Posted - 2016.07.29 10:31:06 - [24] - Quote A reminder to those who complain about biased CRC moderation: Aux Aliette wrote: The Communications Relay Committee encourages anyone who feels that a breach of the rules has taken place to report it through the proper channels. However, please be aware that repeated, targeted reporting against individuals whose viewpoints you do not agree with will be treated as a breach of the CRC Communications policy, and will be actioned as is appropriate. Those that have been reported have been actioned as is appropriate. IGS Communications Director-á \|\|-á Directive Enforcement Department-á \|\|-á CONCORD Assembly
Makoto Priano Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium 8528	Posted - 2016.07.29 17:20:15 - [25] - Quote Is it possible to ask of the disposition of previous reports, such as those I made approximately a week ago? Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
Vizage Capital Allied Industrial Distribution Evictus. 235	Posted - 2016.07.29 19:48:04 - [26] - Quote Aux Aliette wrote: A reminder to those who complain about biased CRC moderation: Aux Aliette wrote: The Communications Relay Committee encourages anyone who feels that a breach of the rules has taken place to report it through the proper channels. However, please be aware that repeated, targeted reporting against individuals whose viewpoints you do not agree with will be treated as a breach of the CRC Communications policy, and will be actioned as is appropriate. Those that have been reported have been actioned as is appropriate. I'm a little confused by this. Do you mean to say that if someone reports a person who repeatedly breaches the CRC communications policy is effectively shielded from being reported on over and over? I find this a little troubling as you are discouraging people from reporting offences for fear that their reporting could be considered an offence in-and-of itself. Could you possibly clarify this rule a little more. Would a person who report a person for multiple similar offences risk punishment themselves? This seems wildly nonconstructive to what you are trying to achieve with this new initiative. Regard, K. Amsel
Ria Nieyli 45806	Posted - 2016.07.29 20:31:57 - [27] - Quote And people shall carry on, none the wiser. "slang" is shortened language for "shortened language"
Che Biko Alexylva Paradox 858	Posted - 2016.08.11 15:26:39 - [28] - Quote Due in no small part to their proclivity for pushing the boundaries, Gallente artistry has become so elaborate that, to many members of New Eden's other nations, it seems virtually unintelligible. As an example, in many Gallente narratives, the story is embedded withing layers of satire-upon-meaning-upon-satire and predicated upon subtle movement and form. As a result, the whole endeavor of the audience becomes less about following the plot and more about how to interpret the piece based on the nuances of its presentation. For this reason, whereas a typical Gallente may sit rapt over the latest Gallente holoreel, a non-Gallente might watch the same thing and perceive little to have happened at all. Furthermore, in mamy Gallente works these convolutions will turn in on themselves several times, creating meta layers of meaning that Gallente love to mull over, but which seem like vacuous pretension to those less interested in the intricacies of analysis. Hmm, Aux Aliette sounds Gallente...looks Gallente...but seemingly he either has become so cosmopolitan that he's lost some touch with Gallente artistry, or he is so busy that he did not have time to do a proper analysis. Funny to see Tuulinen having a better grasp on that. Coordination Channel for Consolidated Space Rescue Cooperation Open Letter to the Aidonis Foundation Directorate
Arkoth 24 Phayder 227	Posted - 2016.08.11 21:07:03 - [29] - Quote Jason Galente wrote: And, it's sad to say it, but nothing of value will be lost. What an irony. Evelopedia via Wayback Machine \| Open petition against Evelopedia closure
Claudia Osyn Non-Hostile Target 2030	Posted - 2016.08.11 23:55:11 - [30] - Quote Che Biko wrote: Hmm, Aux Aliette sounds Gallente...looks Gallente...but seemingly he either has become so cosmopolitan that he's lost some touch with Gallente artistry, or he is so busy that he did not have time to do a proper analysis. Funny to see Tuulinen having a better grasp on that. That because when I created him I forgot to add any depth of personality, humor, and the ability to make or understand emotionally based decisions. So he's effectively a bot designed to lock threads and ban people.... I did leave the ability to develop those things, but it seems it didn't take. My apologies, it's to late to fix now though. A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.



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