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Cloora APEX Unlimited	Posted - 2007.03.09 18:42:00 - [1] Taken from our corp forums, names will be left out to protect thier identity. Quote: Well, we may be getting a wardec from the Privateers in the near future. They're pretty PO'd at me... Background: Undocked from Motsu, there's a Priv in a thorax with a can sitting next to him labelled "Free loot" and a pair of poor n00b wrecks of Kessies. Being the upstanding (heh!) state citizen I am, I docked and refitted for PvP, undocked, puttered over to the can, and "borrowed" the contents (whee. Cap Booster 800s. Joy.) His buddy in a BS undocked (eep) and I opened fire on the thorax, whom left of course, and then turned on the BS and warped off when things seemed to not go well I know PA doesn't really hold up to any ethical standards but come on! n00b baiting is grienfing! I thought you guys were interesting in 'quality PvP" ======================================== Production Assistant of APEX Unlimited I don't want to be forced to Jet Can mine or buy a hauler alt to mine effectivly. BIGGER CARGO HOLDS IN BARGES NOW!
The Trouble	Posted - 2007.03.09 18:45:00 - [2] Edited by: The Trouble on 09/03/2007 18:42:19 YAWN Can't you add this to the multitude of other threads? We know PA do all that they can to get their fix of "PvP". Can we stop now? EDIT: 1st in a BoD Thread!
Cougem Defile. Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.09 18:48:00 - [3] Yeh, nice one. This never went on befoe PA was formed, did it? sigh Some losers join us because they are griefers. Some people join us for consensual fair PvP. I am one of the latter, some are not. Nice thread mate, really was enlightening. How about you stop generalising between players and start making threads that are remotely interesting and original.
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.09 19:06:00 - [4] Gah! For a second there I thought the Phoenix Alliance had come back from the ashes (again)to take over the north. Blog at: The Jammy Blog
Sir Kad Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.09 19:08:00 - [5] Originally by: Grimster Gah! For a second there I thought the Phoenix Alliance had come back from the ashes (again)to take over the north. bah...Me too!
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.03.09 19:08:00 - [6] I suggest a petition, a thread in here really wont go anywhere useful.. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
Cloora APEX Unlimited	Posted - 2007.03.09 19:25:00 - [7] Edited by: Cloora on 09/03/2007 19:23:54 EDIT for some reason it posted blank at first. I am not trying to generalize. Sorry if it appears that way. Maybe PA leaders (do they have organized leaders for that alliance?) need to scrutinize who they let in instead of if they can foot the war bill and thats it. People like that really bring shame on the PA name. And I assume that members of PA want to have fun but not want to be labeled as griefers like that. Self-policing FTW! ======================================== Production Assistant of APEX Unlimited I don't want to be forced to Jet Can mine or buy a hauler alt to mine effectivly. BIGGER CARGO HOLDS IN BARGES NOW!
Sir Howard Gallente SAS. The Foundation.	Posted - 2007.03.09 19:32:00 - [8] Originally by: Cloora Taken from our corp forums, names will be left out to protect thier identity. Quote: Well, we may be getting a wardec from the Privateers in the near future. They're pretty PO'd at me... Background: Undocked from Motsu, there's a Priv in a thorax with a can sitting next to him labelled "Free loot" and a pair of poor n00b wrecks of Kessies. Being the upstanding (heh!) state citizen I am, I docked and refitted for PvP, undocked, puttered over to the can, and "borrowed" the contents (whee. Cap Booster 800s. Joy.) His buddy in a BS undocked (eep) and I opened fire on the thorax, whom left of course, and then turned on the BS and warped off when things seemed to not go well I know PA doesn't really hold up to any ethical standards but come on! n00b baiting is grienfing! I thought you guys were interesting in 'quality PvP" Well first off to be that guy that has to correct everything, I'm assuming this happened in high sec because #1 its Privateers #2 they were using the can trick to agro people.(and no that I look Motus is .8) So what you quoted could never had happened. He could have never been able to fire on both the thorax and the megathron let alone "open fire on the thorax". He looted from the can, the owner of the can would have then had to fire on him so he could return fire. I'm assuming that person is the privateer in the thorax as he was engaged first and then warped off, so for him to say he turned around and shot at the mega is somehow wrong. Yes I realize this really has nothing to do with topic of the post but...its fishy and I had to point that out lol "This is a bad idea wrapped in a horrible plan and shipped in a retarded box"
Cloora APEX Unlimited	Posted - 2007.03.09 20:02:00 - [9] Originally by: Sir Howard Well first off to be that guy that has to correct everything, I'm assuming this happened in high sec because #1 its Privateers #2 they were using the can trick to agro people.(and no that I look Motus is .8) So what you quoted could never had happened. He could have never been able to fire on both the thorax and the megathron let alone "open fire on the thorax". He looted from the can, the owner of the can would have then had to fire on him so he could return fire. I'm assuming that person is the privateer in the thorax as he was engaged first and then warped off, so for him to say he turned around and shot at the mega is somehow wrong. Yes I realize this really has nothing to do with topic of the post but...its fishy and I had to point that out lol Maybe you don't know how can aggro works? My corp mate steals from Thorax's can, Thorax's corp now has aggro on my friend. Thorax tells Mega to undock. While Mega undocks my friend fires at Thorax, Thorax warps off and then Mega gets owned too. How can that not happen? ======================================== Production Assistant of APEX Unlimited I don't want to be forced to Jet Can mine or buy a hauler alt to mine effectivly. BIGGER CARGO HOLDS IN BARGES NOW!
Rooker Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.03.09 20:05:00 - [10] No mystery. When you take from a can, every person in the corporation can attack you. We found a Privateer trap somewhere near Amarr one day. Privateer noob sitting in a shuttle outside a station. Pop that shuttle and an Ishkur decloaks and spits out T2 drones. We really should go back and thank that guy for the free drones ;) -- Inertial Stabilizers and Nanofibers - The new Warp Core Stab. Carebears can PvP again \o/ --

LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.03.09 20:13:00 - [11] Please don't use PA for privateers. Some older players might get emo. -------- .....
Hellaciouss Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.09 20:26:00 - [12] Edited by: Hellaciouss on 09/03/2007 20:24:17 Originally by: LUKEC Please don't use PA for privateers. Some older players might get emo. First in a now-BoB-thread. Hi Ma! But to the OP: Nothing new. You could petition for griefing but CCP really doesn't care. It's the same with placing multiple cans at undock point to keep people from warping and it griefs people they aren't war dec'ed against. It's been petitioned and CCP doesn't do anything about it. Tonight's the night the world begins again...
Kay Brack Gallente Superior Unified Ruling Federation	Posted - 2007.03.09 22:29:00 - [13] Originally by: LUKEC Please don't use PA for privateers. Some older players might get emo. Yeah PA was an alliance and you can create some confusion by refering to privateers by those initials.
Hamatitio Caldari Fate.	Posted - 2007.03.09 23:10:00 - [14] PA IS NOT PRIVATEERS. this is like the 3rd time i've had to correct people. Call them privateers, or prvtrs, or something... if you are honestly too lazy to type 8 more letters, then you should not be making a forum post. kthnx.bye. 50% of my posts get ISDokkened :(
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.09 23:51:00 - [15] Originally by: LUKEC Please don't use PA for privateers. Some older players might get emo. That'll be me Blog at: The Jammy Blog
Cloora APEX Unlimited	Posted - 2007.03.10 00:26:00 - [16] ok well really why do I care if you get all emo if I call privateers PA? who is supposed to be PA? Give me some history k thnx! Tell me so I CAN care. :D ======================================== Production Assistant of APEX Unlimited I don't want to be forced to Jet Can mine or buy a hauler alt to mine effectivly. BIGGER CARGO HOLDS IN BARGES NOW!
jernej Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.03.10 00:49:00 - [17] Originally by: Cloora ok well really why do I care if you get all emo if I call privateers PA? who is supposed to be PA? Give me some history k thnx! Tell me so I CAN care. :D PA is Phoenix Alliance and was once a big 0.0 alliance, but that is not something you would really have to care about. If you call Privateers PA then every dude with a clue will know that you are a n00b and that is something you CAN care about. cheers <- one of the emo dudes -- Plz sign my thread
hired goon Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.10 02:00:00 - [18] Don't call Privateers PA. -omg-
hybridundertaker Amarr Beagle Corp	Posted - 2007.03.10 03:01:00 - [19] glad to be in a thread where BoB and d2 agree on something. EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH SUPPORTER
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.10 05:02:00 - [20] I somehow expect that everyone who has been watching EVE politics for more than the last year agrees with them. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'

Darken Two Gallente Hybonashi Industries Kith of Venal	Posted - 2007.03.10 05:21:00 - [21] Stop calling them PA. PA are the Phoneix Alliance (ahhhh..memories). Privateers are not frickin PA. Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
GPszith Gallente Gypsy Productions	Posted - 2007.03.10 05:48:00 - [22] Originally by: Cougem Yeh, nice one. This never went on befoe PA was formed, did it? sigh Some losers join us because they are griefers. Some people join us for consensual fair PvP. I am one of the latter, some are not. Nice thread mate, really was enlightening. How about you stop generalising between players and start making threads that are remotely interesting and original. You guys joined a corp..of your own free will.and can leave at any point in time..however people "shouldn't generalize" huh? Privateers have the rep they have for a reason. Good or bad that's how it is. I don't personally hate, like or care about Privateers but that's kind of a silly expectation. You will always be judged by the people you associate yourself with. Expecting anything else is just naive. -GPszith wtb a sig
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.10 06:38:00 - [23] Edited by: Le Skunk on 10/03/2007 06:38:25 As has been said before, Privateer Alliance members come from a wide variety of background and the players gain enjoyment in varied ways. Some may employ the noob can routine i dont know and i dont care. Its not my cup of tea, its not the cup of tea of most of the alliance, but as long as they dont grief an alliance mate they are free to stay in the privatter alliance. The freedom provided to our members is one of our founding principals. Some of our peeps even run missions GHARGH! This freedom however can lead to some people using practices which the wider eve community deems as unethical. If you want to tar all privateers with the same brush thats up to you. Its not our probelem. However, I note: Nobody says WOW YOUR IN AN ALLAINCE WITH insert uber pvp player so you must be a uber pvper too! but you will say WOW YOUR IN AN ALLIANCE WITH insert unscrupulous player so you must be an unscrupulous player too. Its illoigcal but pfft ive been on these forums long enough to realise thats not uncommon :) As for the guy who says a privater shuttle was used as bait outside a station, well what the hell were you dooing trying to gank a poor afk shuttle in the first place. You heartless griefer!! SKUNK
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.03.10 07:04:00 - [24] Originally by: Sir Kad Originally by: Grimster Gah! For a second there I thought the Phoenix Alliance had come back from the ashes (again)to take over the north. bah...Me too! Me three... Then come to find out its just about PRVTR...pfft. _________________________ ~Thor Xian, Star Commander Got Corp?
Aioa Planetary Assault Systems	Posted - 2007.03.10 07:24:00 - [25] Since when has Motsu been a starter system? Sure, its full of 'noobs' but most of those 'noobs' fly CNRs The players there are fair game. The End.
Dao 2 Suicidal-Kushan-Pirates	Posted - 2007.03.10 07:41:00 - [26] Originally by: Grimster Gah! For a second there I thought the Phoenix Alliance had come back from the ashes (again)to take over the north. i wish :*( ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal
Templer Relleg x13 Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.10 07:48:00 - [27] Originally by: Le Skunk As for the guy who says a privater shuttle was used as bait outside a station, well what the hell were you dooing trying to gank a poor afk shuttle in the first place. You heartless griefer!! SKUNK And people say that we only gank, and run if we cant win! Look mom, we fight using shuttles! And for those who attacks our shuttles, at least we try to get a fair fight!!
Mephistos Just-fun Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.10 07:53:00 - [28] Good ol' PA. One day maybe someone will re-raise then banner, then every alliance and their mother will band together to crush it :p
Slave 775 Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.10 08:45:00 - [29] Originally by: hybridundertaker glad to be in a thread where BoB and d2 agree on something. Funny BoB and D2 agree upon something. We should charge them for this kind of therapy.
Wonder Mike The Sugarhill Gang	Posted - 2007.03.10 09:03:00 - [30] PA = Phoenix Alliance Tards = Privaters Alliance

Templer Relleg x13 Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.10 10:24:00 - [31] Originally by: Ventosus geez, not another: "Some Privateer did something, now they all are like that" thread If the forum says so, it must be true!
The Slayer Caldari The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion	Posted - 2007.03.10 11:18:00 - [32] Originally by: Templer Relleg Originally by: Ventosus geez, not another: "Some Privateer did something, now they all are like that" thread If the forum says so, it must be true! Its a bit of the old "Fly with the crows get shot with the crows" type situation. Someone in your corp is noob baiting so your entire corp is flagged as noob baiters. Happens all the time. Dont want it to happen? Remove the noob baiters from your corp! Problem solved! Also - I honestly went "No snip way" in the middle of a crowded office when I saw a PA thread. That took some explaining. PA IS DEAD AND STAYING THAT WAY!!! Avoid trying to evade the profanity-filter please. -Ivan K
Templer Relleg x13 Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.10 13:54:00 - [33] Originally by: The Slayer Someone in your corp is noob baiting so your entire corp is flagged as noob baiters. Happens all the time. Dont want it to happen? Remove the noob baiters from your corp! Problem solved! Im not in the privateers corp. Im in x13, and we dont have noob baiters afaik. But as far as i understand, the idea of privateers is freedom.
Cloora APEX Unlimited	Posted - 2007.03.10 20:46:00 - [34] Ok I edited the title. But seriously, I don't really care if people think I'm a n00b. Because I am one right now and I am not going to try to act like I have been playing EVE for 3 years if I haven't. good day to you too. ======================================== Production Assistant of APEX Unlimited I don't want to be forced to Jet Can mine or buy a hauler alt to mine effectivly. BIGGER CARGO HOLDS IN BARGES NOW!
kill0rbunny Chimera Intelligence Agency	Posted - 2007.03.10 21:24:00 - [35] Originally by: Cloora Ok I edited the title. But seriously, I don't really care if people think I'm a n00b. Because I am one right now and I am not going to try to act like I have been playing EVE for 3 years if I haven't. good day to you too. So you say privateers are n00b baiters cause one of them did so. In the Video Karma you can clearly see a bob alt scamming. So guess in your logic all Bobbits have to be scammers. Pathetic. Killboard
Sir Howard Gallente SAS. The Foundation.	Posted - 2007.03.10 21:52:00 - [36] Originally by: Cloora Originally by: Sir Howard Well first off to be that guy that has to correct everything, I'm assuming this happened in high sec because #1 its Privateers #2 they were using the can trick to agro people.(and no that I look Motus is .8) So what you quoted could never had happened. He could have never been able to fire on both the thorax and the megathron let alone "open fire on the thorax". He looted from the can, the owner of the can would have then had to fire on him so he could return fire. I'm assuming that person is the privateer in the thorax as he was engaged first and then warped off, so for him to say he turned around and shot at the mega is somehow wrong. Yes I realize this really has nothing to do with topic of the post but...its fishy and I had to point that out lol Maybe you don't know how can aggro works? My corp mate steals from Thorax's can, Thorax's corp now has aggro on my friend. Thorax tells Mega to undock. While Mega undocks my friend fires at Thorax, Thorax warps off and then Mega gets owned too. How can that not happen? Or maybe its you who dont know how agro works, if someone steals from your can only YOU have rights to attack him ..not your entire corp "This is a bad idea wrapped in a horrible plan and shipped in a retarded box"
heheheh Singularity.	Posted - 2007.03.11 01:02:00 - [37] OP is just another upset victim, everything he says about Privateers is not true, he just repeats what others have said over and over, why do people with no real knowledge of their subject matter continue to post ?
heheheh Singularity.	Posted - 2007.03.11 01:02:00 - [38] Originally by: Wonder Mike PA = Phoenix Alliance Tards = Privaters Alliance PA = Privateers Pheonix alliance = slaves to their fat CEO.
Dhaikin Lharoud Caldari Silent Solitude	Posted - 2007.03.11 02:43:00 - [39] Sleep with dogs, and you will get fleas ... or ugly children The feeble excuse well, some Privateers do it, but I don't ..... control your people or deal with the fleas Any alliance that uses lame tactics gets their fair share of flames, dont think you are exempt because you will take in anyone DL
gerku Serial Killers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.11 12:08:00 - [40] turds tards *****'s , ..... we make industrial corp's happy because they need 2 build more ships in empire because we destroy the most off em ( pvp quality ?? wutts that ) ?????

Tree Fiddy Caldari Heretic Entity	Posted - 2007.03.11 16:49:00 - [41] Edited by: Tree Fiddy on 11/03/2007 16:45:32 Did you know that an anagram of "Privateers alliance" is: "A split anal receiver" I shall say no more... I say I ain't giving you no tree fiddy you goddamned Loch Ness monster.
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.03.11 18:03:00 - [42] Originally by: Tree Fiddy Edited by: Tree Fiddy on 11/03/2007 16:45:32 Did you know that an anagram of "Privateers alliance" is: "A split anal receiver" I shall say no more... Well now... _________________________ ~Thor Xian, Star Commander Got Corp?
Cloora APEX Unlimited	Posted - 2007.03.12 16:47:00 - [43] Originally by: Sir Howard Originally by: Cloora Originally by: Sir Howard Well first off to be that guy that has to correct everything, I'm assuming this happened in high sec because #1 its Privateers #2 they were using the can trick to agro people.(and no that I look Motus is .8) So what you quoted could never had happened. He could have never been able to fire on both the thorax and the megathron let alone "open fire on the thorax". He looted from the can, the owner of the can would have then had to fire on him so he could return fire. I'm assuming that person is the privateer in the thorax as he was engaged first and then warped off, so for him to say he turned around and shot at the mega is somehow wrong. Yes I realize this really has nothing to do with topic of the post but...its fishy and I had to point that out lol Maybe you don't know how can aggro works? My corp mate steals from Thorax's can, Thorax's corp now has aggro on my friend. Thorax tells Mega to undock. While Mega undocks my friend fires at Thorax, Thorax warps off and then Mega gets owned too. How can that not happen? Or maybe its you who dont know how agro works, if someone steals from your can only YOU have rights to attack him ..not your entire corp No you are wrong. Please use the search function and see all teh threads on how can flagging works. Your corp all gets aggro rights. And for all the people saying I am upset I got popped. Please read the thread VERY carefully! Especially the OP where I said I wasn't even involved. And I should use the proper terminology. I am a newb not a n00b. My fault. I would never make such a mistake as I never ignore the pop ups. Please read the whole thread thanks! ======================================== Production Assistant of APEX Unlimited I don't want to be forced to Jet Can mine or buy a hauler alt to mine effectivly. BIGGER CARGO HOLDS IN BARGES NOW!


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