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Edea Lorien
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Posted - 2003.12.18 22:16:00 -
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Well im sitting with this thorax, trying to fit it, and i came up with something like this.
High slots:5x medium Ion blasters (or maby take 4 and a smartbomb)
Med slots:Medium Shield booster, MWD, Webber.
Low slots: damage mod, 2 cap relays, 2
diagnostic units.
Or mid slots: Mwd, Webber, Scrambler.
Low slots: Damage mod, armour repairer, some relays/diagnostic units
So what u think ?
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Nightfang
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Posted - 2003.12.19 00:43:00 -
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Sounds really good. At least you understand the part about using blasters instead of trying to fit the beauty with 250s or ... sigh ... lasers.
Ions would be my choice too - great damage output and five of them fits nicely on the Thorax without the need for power upgrades. I use 5 Modal Ions myself.
Med slots are whatever you like, myself I use one C5-L Medium Booster, 1 web and 1 warp disruptor.
Low slots I have 1 dmg mod, 2 cap relays and 2 30 m/s overdrives. Those +60 m/s you get comes in really handy when you need to get in close on other ships and leaves you without shield and cap penalties.
Drones: 4 wasps, 4 praetors. Personal preference :)
Well, that's just my setup!
/Nightfang
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Xian
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Posted - 2003.12.19 00:51:00 -
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looks like we have all the same setup 
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babyblue
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Posted - 2003.12.24 12:34:00 -
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Can someone explain why the blasters would be better than the 250s?
I fit my ship with 3x250mm hybs, 5 power 1s, 1 med shield extender and 1 shield recharger! (oh and 8 heavy drones).
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2003.12.24 13:05:00 -
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That looks nearly identical to my usual set-up. At the moment I only have 3 Neutron Blaster fitted (it's all they sell here) and while they do a lot of damage (250+) I can only fit three.
My lows usually consist of lots of cap relays, a warp stabiliser and a power diagnostic if I need it. At the moment my drones are all Wasps because I got a good deal on them, and I like them because they get to the target quicker.
In response to the person using 250MMs, the problem is they are a ranged weapon and other cruisers have even better ranged weapons (read cruise missiles/torps) so it's generally a better idea not to play them at their own game. Get in close with the MWD, webify them to keep them still, then whip out the blasters and drones.
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hellwarrior
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Posted - 2003.12.24 13:13:00 -
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Can someone explain why the blasters would be better than the 250s?
I fit my ship with 3x250mm hybs, 5 power 1s, 1 med shield extender and 1 shield recharger! (oh and 8 heavy drones).
You obviously don't know about blasters :) They out damage 250mm's per shot, per minute, per w.e. :] Their range is the only draw back.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2003.12.24 15:40:00 -
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I was under the impression that the range was very important when it comes to farming npc¦s. I however would use blasters in pvp.
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Araviel
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Posted - 2003.12.24 18:08:00 -
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Their range is the only draw back.
and their Cap drain [;)], i suggest if you wanna use blasters on a thorax you really should use some cap relays or train up your skills to reduce the need of cap.
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.12.24 19:58:00 -
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Their range is the only draw back.
and their Cap drain [;)], i suggest if you wanna use blasters on a thorax you really should use some cap relays or train up your skills to reduce the need of cap.
Hmm, we are comparing them to 250mm's and lasers... Both use 2.5-6.5 times as much cap.
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Judicator
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Posted - 2003.12.24 21:29:00 -
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My current setup:
3 x 250mm Compressed Coil I
2 x 150mm Dual Prototype I
1 x Y-S8 AB
1 x Medium Converse(Shield booster)
1 x Medium Peroxide Battery
(The above will be changed when I get around to do it, a bit lazy )
1 x Linear Flux Stabiliser I
1 x Fourier Transform
1x Overdrive Injector I
2 x Reactor Control Units
I got some planned things to chekc out, like a sensor booster to lock faster, or a shield amp and such.
Overall this setup works fine against NPC. PvP I would go for blasters.
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Jonas D'Vayr
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Posted - 2003.12.24 23:48:00 -
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250mm Rails are defintely better against Serpentis NPCs as they all have short range weapons. Only today i saw a Thorax with lasers get taken down by some NPCs frigates. If you fit speed modules and long range weapons you can destroy most things before they get close.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2003.12.25 13:48:00 -
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Hi-slots: 3x 250 prototype gauss, 2x dual 150 ( haven't gotten loot variants yet, but then again they're not used often )
mid-slots:c5-l overload medium, y-t8 mwd, invunerability field/tracking comp
low-slots:cap realy, power diagnostic, reactor control, tracking enhancer, damage enhancer
8x ogres in the drone bay
Blasters will get you killed against just about anything, their cap drain, and very small optimal window (1km-6km) makes them a speciality weapon not suited for flying solo.
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Lanu
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Posted - 2003.12.25 15:05:00 -
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Blasters will get you killed against just about anything, their cap drain, and very small optimal window (1km-6km) makes them a speciality weapon not suited for flying solo.
not if you can web him and stay in optimal range launch your drone's you can do ALOT of damage then...
boo
"You are most like the Cat, lazy and quiet. You aren't very exciting yet everyone notices your presence."
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F4ze
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Posted - 2003.12.26 02:31:00 -
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my setup for NPC hunting:
4*250mm
1 Small Notos smartbomb
2 ABs
1 Medium C5-L shieldbooster
1 Magnetic Field Stabilizer
1 Tracking Enhancer
3 Power Diagnostic
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Maggot
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Posted - 2003.12.26 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: Maggot on 26/12/2003 16:15:10
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Blasters will get you killed against just about anything, their cap drain, and very small optimal window (1km-6km) makes them a speciality weapon not suited for flying solo.
This is true for 0.0 space where the spawns are large. However for high sec and also POI spawn points, where you can draw out your prey from its buddies, they are great.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2003.12.26 19:57:00 -
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4xIon Blasters
1xSmartBomb for Missile Defence
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1xMed Shield Booster
1xMWD
1xCap Injector
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2xDmg Mods
1xArmor Repairer
and the 2 left for things u need...
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darth solo
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Posted - 2003.12.26 20:58:00 -
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using blasters means u will have to get up close, lol, good luck, unless its little baby NPCs.
if u are farming NPCs, use 4 250 rails, pref named.
In pvp, id deff go for blasters and drones, but thorax is so soft i wouldnt even think about moving close to a bs, u will prob die on the journey there .
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Edea Lorien
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Posted - 2003.12.27 19:28:00 -
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Well hi agen, i have been toying some with my thorax, and now have it fitted acordingly. (well its for pvp)
Hight slots:
4x Medium Ion Blasters with Antimater ammo
Medium slots:
Named Webbifyer
10MN Microwarpdrive
Medium Capacitor booster with 400 bost charges
Low slots:
Reactor Control unit
Capacitor Power Relay
3x Basic Overdrive Injection systems
So what do you guys think? well the setup may/will change someday, tho is it a good start?
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Lanu
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Posted - 2003.12.27 19:37:00 -
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it's nice i think... but maybe try neutron's instead of ion's
boo
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Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2003.12.27 20:04:00 -
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Ion blasters will give you more damage per cap unit expended, plus they've got a greater rate of fire than neutron blasters. With decent engineering and weapons power skills, you can fit five heavy ion blasters on a Thorax without having to fill your low slots with RCUs. About the only reason you might want to fit neutron blasters over ion blasters would be the (slightly) increased range of the neutrons.
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Edea Lorien
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Posted - 2003.12.27 21:20:00 -
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Well as it is now, i got Enginering, and electronics lv 4 =), but i still dont think i can squize in one more ion i have less then 70 power left =)
And neutrons, they are eating an enormus amount of power =) and i dont think they are worth it atm, but who knows maby ill change my mind =)
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2003.12.28 03:08:00 -
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Edited by: Slithereen on 28/12/2003 03:11:00
Save the blaster configs against small npc frigs, where the faster tracking rate is more useful.
But generally I would say scrap the blaster configs and just go for rails when you deal with the larger NPCs, especially missile spammers in groups.
However, all rail configs get you in big trouble if you happen to meet small NPCs, especially 6k to 15K Serpentis because these NPCs like to get very close and makes it very difficult for the low tracking rails to hit.
Some suggested configs.
a.) Four 250mm rails and one smartbomb --- Very good for missile spammers. This is the only configuration I would recommend for beyond empire 0.0 space now. A little problem when dealing with fast moving NPCs in 0.4 to 0.1 space however.
b.) 3 250mm rails and 2 150mm rails --- I like to use this one but takes up too much ammo. Gets better results with smaller NPCs.
b-a.) 2 250mm rails an 3 150mm rails --- Variation of the above better optimized for smaller NPCs.
c.) 3 250mm rails and 2 focused medium pulse lasers --- good for both long and short distances. Excellent config if you like to save on ammo and deal with smaller NPCs at the same time.
d.) 3 250mm rails and 2 heavy ion blasters --- config for dealing both large and small NPCs.
e.) 2 250mm rails and 3 heavy ion/neutron blasters. Very good for drawing out npcs from a flock then attack them up close.
f.) 2 250mm rails, 1 150mm rails and 2 heavy ions --- less skill demanding for dealing with both large and small NPCs.
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Roba
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Posted - 2003.12.28 05:11:00 -
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Get lvl 5 elect and eng, you will be able to fit 5 neutron blasters.
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dreschke
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Posted - 2003.12.28 08:20:00 -
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Agreed lvl 5 eng, elec, mech, all must haves..
But not to sound totally crazy,,,
I love using modal, anode, particle stream lasers on my thorax,,no ammo needed, crystals vary the rng and even the light anode can hit to 12k with radio..
Pretty much everything else the same except add a low cap charger.. and i have never needed ammo and never run out of cap..
But i only hunt NPC's so that may be why i like the lasers.. Oh and i hate ammo.
Best of Luck
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babyblue
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Posted - 2003.12.28 18:09:00 -
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However, all rail configs get you in big trouble if you happen to meet small NPCs, especially 6k to 15K Serpentis because these NPCs like to get very close and makes it very difficult for the low tracking rails to hit.
That is when I usually launch my drones - when the tiddlers get too close.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2003.12.29 01:26:00 -
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Forgot too mention this earlier since it should come naturally for anyone flying a thorax, bring 8 heavies, ogres prefered if you can afford them. and don't worry about short range guns, ogres eat anything that you could possibly allow to get at such a range rails stop hitting.
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A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX
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Roba
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Posted - 2003.12.29 11:52:00 -
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Agreed lvl 5 eng, elec, mech, all must haves..
But not to sound totally crazy,,,
I love using modal, anode, particle stream lasers on my thorax,,no ammo needed, crystals vary the rng and even the light anode can hit to 12k with radio..
Pretty much everything else the same except add a low cap charger.. and i have never needed ammo and never run out of cap..
But i only hunt NPC's so that may be why i like the lasers.. Oh and i hate ammo.
Best of Luck
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toaster
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Posted - 2003.12.30 20:24:00 -
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That looks nearly identical to my usual set-up. At the moment I only have 3 Neutron Blaster fitted (it's all they sell here) and while they do a lot of damage (250+) I can only fit three.
How do you get 250+ damage? Or is that ur best single shot hit? If it is consistent, what is ur setup, ammo, and range?
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2003.12.31 02:35:00 -
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Granted it was a bit of a lucky shot, but I have had a few 250+ shots with Neutrons armed with AM firing at under 3Km with an X5 Webifier. If the target is big enough, the damage ramps up quite a lot. Just last night I got 271 against a Liquidator...
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0rigin
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Posted - 2003.12.31 11:42:00 -
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Edited by: 0rigin on 31/12/2003 11:43:21
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