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Dalchi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.07.29 07:32:53 -
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Hi there guys im planning on ganking a bit in wormholes with a T3 cruiser along with my astero scout and was wondering which T3 would be best for my situtation. (It does not need to be fit AT ALL for PVE ONLY PVP...).
As of right now I have a Proteus fit up for the job but wondering if it was even the best option for the job. Fit is below.
Proteus Fit
High -Covert Ops Cloaking Device II -Expanded Probe Launcher II ( 8x Sister's combat scanner probe's. ) -Heavy Neutron Blaster II -Heavy Neutron Blaster II -Heavy Neutron Blaster II -Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Medium -Republic Fleet Warp Scrambler -Federation Navy Stasis Webifier -10 MN Afterburner II
Low -Shadow Serpentis Armor Explosive Hardener -Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane -Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane -1600mm Steel Plates II -Magnetic Field Stabilizer II -Magnetic Field Stabilizer II -Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Rigs -Medium Trimark Armor Pump II -Medium Trimark Armor Pump II -Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Notes:
-Cold - 421 DPS (With Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M) -Hot - 484 DPS
-138k EHP (Can switch out a MFS II For a 800mm Steel plate reducing DPS to 374 (cold) but increasing tank to 174k EHP)
If you do think this fit and T3 is fine for what i'm doing also let me know! Much appreciated |
Braxton Tscharke
Anomalous Existence Low-Class
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Posted - 2016.07.29 07:53:11 -
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Have you looked at a Stratios? Good active or buffer tank with utility high slots for days. Get about 450deeps with heavys and gecko's have decent tracking for heavys.
I think your fit is fine, just giving you some options. Just remember sooner or later you will get baited and someone will take your corpse to share with their friends. No need to lose that sp if you dont need too. |
Dalchi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.07.29 08:53:26 -
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Hey just looked at the stratios in Pyfa with a neut and passive tank with about 458 dps and 76k EHP, and this might actually be better, the tank is sacrificed for neuting power and DPS but thats fine considering i will have the suprise factor and be able to choose my targets also wont be losing any SP, so thanks i might actually go for the stratios instead. 678m Fit btw compared to 721m Proteus
Also i can get more DPS out of 4 ogres then 2 geckos so no need to waste 80m extra :) |
Obil Que
Star Explorers Reckoning Star Alliance
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Posted - 2016.07.29 12:44:14 -
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Dalchi wrote:Hey just looked at the stratios in Pyfa with a neut and passive tank with about 458 dps and 76k EHP, and this might actually be better, the tank is sacrificed for neuting power and DPS but thats fine considering i will have the suprise factor and be able to choose my targets also wont be losing any SP, so thanks i might actually go for the stratios instead. 678m Fit btw compared to 721m Proteus Also i can get more DPS out of 4 ogres then 2 geckos so no need to waste 80m extra :)
The Geckos apply their DPS better though in practice. I think you'll find you like them better. |
Jack Miton
Un.Reasonable
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Posted - 2016.07.29 13:32:24 -
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Stratios is best, geckos are MUCH better than ogres. If going Proteus, fit the augmented sub for 25m drone bandwidth.
PS: how did you manage to get less than 500dps out of a Proteus? That takes some skill!
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Michael1995
Lazerhawks
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Posted - 2016.07.29 14:14:41 -
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The Stratios is the best T3.
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Foedus Latro
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
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Posted - 2016.07.29 15:01:59 -
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Your fit gets destroyed by anything with a medium neut on it. For hunting, proteus is the best t3 imo but a stratios is going to be more cost effective and better as Mr. Miton says.
Just a wormhole guy
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Foedus Latro
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
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Posted - 2016.07.29 15:03:11 -
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Michael1995 wrote:The Stratios is the best T3.
Mike please include Isogen 5 in your wormhole CFC list. I paid my due months ago. K thx
Just a wormhole guy
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Dalchi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.07.29 22:35:52 -
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Foedus Latro wrote:Your fit gets destroyed by anything with a medium neut on it. For hunting, proteus is the best t3 imo but a stratios is going to be more cost effective and better as Mr. Miton says.
I will be using dual small cap boosters :) 39x 400 cap boosters
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Dalchi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.07.29 22:42:43 -
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Here is the Stratios Fit (Ignore the bling, ISK is not a problem to me)
High -Covert Ops Cloaking Device II -Sisters Core Probe Launcher -Medium Energy Neutralizer II -Medium Energy Neutralizer II -Small Energy Neutralizer II
Med -50mn Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive -Republic Fleet Warp Disrupter -Federation Navy Stasis Webifier -Small Capacitor Booster II -Small Capacitor Booster II
Low -Corpii A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating -Dark Blood Armor Explosive Hardener -Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane -Drone Damage Amplifier II -Imperial Navy 160mm Steel Plates
Rig -Medium Trimark Armor Pump II -Medium Trimark Armor Pump II -Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Drones -Warrior II 15x -Hammerhead 12x -Gecko 3x -Hammerhead SD-600 5x
Cargo -Navy Capacitor Booster 400 (39x) -Mobile Depot -Armor Rep -Shield Booster -Hull Rep
Notes--- -Should i be using AB instead of MWD? |
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Matt Benneth
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.07.30 16:54:35 -
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I would go dual prop, faction scram, web and small cap booster. You will have to manage your cap a bit more, but dual prop is great for negating missile damage or disengaging from combat when things don't go well. If you gonna go only AB then warp disruptor doesn't make make much sense. |
Jack Miton
Un.Reasonable
4923
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Posted - 2016.07.31 05:44:33 -
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This is the fit I use, yet to let me down, unless you count being an idiot and letting myself get talked into jumping into lowsec by Foedus...
Quote:[Stratios, Nemo] 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Damage Control II Drone Damage Amplifier II
50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive 10MN Afterburner II Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Medium Gremlin Compact Energy Neutralizer Medium Gremlin Compact Energy Neutralizer Medium Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe 'Smokescreen' Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Gecko x2 Ogre II x4 Curator II x4 Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5
If you don't want the dual prop and want a bit more tank you could do this fit, would possibly be correct to do so:
Quote:[Stratios, Nemo] Imperial Navy 1600mm Steel Plates Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Damage Control II Drone Damage Amplifier II
50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier Dark Blood Small Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400 Dark Blood Small Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Energy Neutralizer II Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe 'Smokescreen' Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Gecko x2 Ogre II x4 Curator II x4 Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5
PS: It fits a T2 cloak fine, i'm just too lazy to swap it out on my fit.
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Asika Koraka
Dragon Factory Peoples United Republic Empire
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Posted - 2016.07.31 09:29:13 -
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Michael1995 wrote:The Stratios is the best T3. i treat stratios as tech 5 cruiser because it has very good statistics and yes better 4 ogres than 2 gecko can confirm that |
NoobMan
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
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Posted - 2016.07.31 15:15:27 -
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If you are looking to join a W-space corp later down the line the Legion would be your best bet to skill towards.
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Jack Miton
Un.Reasonable
4923
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Posted - 2016.07.31 23:20:51 -
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Asika Koraka wrote:yes better 4 ogres than 2 gecko can confirm that if you want half the speed, half the tracking and much less HP, sure...
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Linix Jouhinen
The Enclave Frontiers Holesale Operations
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Posted - 2016.08.03 16:42:16 -
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Gecko's all the way. Way not isk efficient in market but if you dont lose them, its the winner overall. DPS, speed, tracking, HP. |
Braxton Tscharke
Anomalous Existence Low-Class
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Posted - 2016.08.05 10:23:19 -
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Since we are all whipping them out and slapping them around a bit. Here's mine..
[Stratios, Stratios] Damage Control II Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Drone Damage Amplifier II
50MN Microwarpdrive II 10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Sisters Core Probe Launcher Medium Gremlin Compact Energy Neutralizer Medium Gremlin Compact Energy Neutralizer Medium Ghoul Compact Energy Nosferatu
Medium Nanobot Accelerator II Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
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Merchant Rova
Pathway to the Next
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Posted - 2016.08.24 15:29:26 -
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Get a Strat if you don't really know how to PvP, no need to lose SP
That said, Proky Cloakyus is probably the best though I have refit my C3gu to a rapid light cloaky PvP ship. Railgu/Blengu is not bad but not good. I have thought about making a superweb tackle loki, but to be fair medium projectiles blow. As for the Legion I think it would be ok but I haven't looked at any fits
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