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Hana Brenecki
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:14:00 -
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Edited by: Hana Brenecki on 12/03/2007 09:11:24
Three beautiful screenshots.
I've never seen EVE look so good. Ever.
CCP, you know what I'm asking you for. And I don't ask you for much. But I want this. The majority of the community also wants it. Please at least make it an option, and I will love you forever. In fact, I already do love you forever. But do this one thing for me and I'll buy an extra account and never use it just so you can have more of my money, because you will have earnt it. Please consider!
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Meleira Luan
Tiger Trading
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:17:00 -
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What is it that you want exactly? I'm sorry but it is far from apparent.
To fly another ship than a bestower?
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Hana Brenecki
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:18:00 -
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Er, no. Do you notice anything missing from the screenshots? Look closely.
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Antaris Xenal
Gallente
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:19:00 -
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He wants it to be black, and have the nebulas removed, and I agree. They just get in the way imo
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R3dSh1ft
Caldari
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:19:00 -
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you removed the neocom, local and minimised the overview, what exactly you are asking for is far from clear.
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SumDum
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:20:00 -
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How bout instead of guessing games you just spit it out? On my middle screen, that's all I would see anyway, actually I wouldn't even have an overview, it would be on my right monitor.
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Goramath
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:20:00 -
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 Originally by: R3dSh1ft
you removed the neocom, local and minimised the overview, what exactly you are asking for is far from clear.
Quote you with
Originally by: Antaris Xenal
He wants it to be black, and have the nebulas removed, and I agree. They just get in the way imo
And whoola!
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Hana Brenecki
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:20:00 -
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Edited by: Hana Brenecki on 12/03/2007 09:17:41
I really didn't think I would have to spell it out.
The sky is black. Doesn't it look fab?
(I cropped the overview, icons etc around the edges for a different, irrelevant reason.)
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SumDum
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:21:00 -
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???
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R3dSh1ft
Caldari
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:22:00 -
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Originally by: Goramath
Originally by: R3dSh1ft
you removed the neocom, local and minimised the overview, what exactly you are asking for is far from clear.
Quote you with
Originally by: Antaris Xenal
He wants it to be black, and have the nebulas removed, and I agree. They just get in the way imo
And whoola!
if you check the timestamps we posted that at the same time :) and its still not clear no matter what an alt says to me
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SumDum
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:23:00 -
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Yeh, I don't get it. Sounds like I never will.
WTB the last 3 minutes of my life back
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Plasticine Perfection
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:23:00 -
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Removing the nebulae and backgrounds would suit some people, but not others.
I like having them since they add some variety and they provide some reference for locating things in solar systems - e.g. I know that the station I dock at is located left of the sun and just at the corner of the U-shaped bit of nebula.
But given the fact that we're in pods, with all our sensory inputs fed to us through electronics and filtered by advanced computer systems I think we should be able to have the pod render the view however we like.
i.e. make the backgrounds a client-selectable option.
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Goramath
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: R3dSh1ft
Originally by: Goramath
Originally by: R3dSh1ft
you removed the neocom, local and minimised the overview, what exactly you are asking for is far from clear.
Quote you with
Originally by: Antaris Xenal
He wants it to be black, and have the nebulas removed, and I agree. They just get in the way imo
And whoola!
if you check the timestamps we posted that at the same time :) and its still not clear no matter what an alt says to me
The nebula on the background? the big red/green/blue 'gas' clouds that are system wide? look.. there isnt one, its just starry black... its a bug that makes the nebula not load..
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Hana Brenecki
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:24:00 -
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The sky is black.
That's black. Not white. Not coloured. Black.
Just in case you didn't notice.
Black sky looks good. I would like black sky all the time. Or the option of black sky.
Who cares who is an alt and who is not. That doesn't change the issue, which is that I would like black sky. Please.
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R3dSh1ft
Caldari
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:25:00 -
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yeah i can see that.
its still not clear though as the OP seems to think, to us 0.0 pvp types the UI is far more important than the picture in the background :)
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Hana Brenecki
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:26:00 -
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Yeah that is why I cropped bits of the UI. Confidentiality!
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SumDum
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:27:00 -
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Edited by: SumDum on 12/03/2007 09:24:10
Originally by: Hana Brenecki
The sky is black.
That's black. Not white. Not coloured. Black.
Just in case you didn't notice.
Black sky looks good. I would like black sky all the time. Or the option of black sky.
Who cares who is an alt and who is not. That doesn't change the issue, which is that I would like black sky. Please.
And I would like mine in 3d. I have learned to live in disappointment, why can't you? :)
IMO there are a lot of other things that need fixing before removing nebulaes that I don't even notice when someone takes them away.
And for the record, from the tone of the OP, I thought you were complaining that something was broken with your install of Eve or something.
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Hana Brenecki
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:29:00 -
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Edited by: Hana Brenecki on 12/03/2007 09:25:47
It would be an easy thing for them to code, seeing as the nebulas automatically vanish when you go to the map. The code is obviously already there. All that is needed now is a toggle switch...
And maybe I will be dissapointed, but I can at least ask...
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Lonectzn
Pelennor Swarm
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:33:00 -
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Edited by: Lonectzn on 12/03/2007 09:29:14
Yep just a way to disable the nebula would be fantastic - I'd love it.
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Sahjahn
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:34:00 -
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Quote:
Black sky looks good
Black sky eh, i don't know what game you're playing but i'm in space, there is no sky.
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Hana Brenecki
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:37:00 -
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Well, you know what I mean. Black "background", if you want to get technical about it.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:41:00 -
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Edited by: Chribba on 12/03/2007 09:37:09
/signed for option to turn on/off
Until then, teach me o great client haxor 
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Hana Brenecki
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:46:00 -
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I'm no hacker. I don't even know how I did it. But even if I did, I wouldn't go public with the info because I don't want CCP "fixing the bug" until they make the black space an actual proper optional feature of the game.
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Sovy Kurosei
Amarr
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 10:18:00 -
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How to get the black background.
Go into a station. Open map. Exit station. Close map. If I recall you have to close the map before it can auto-close from exiting the station.
Here is a screenshot
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Revolution Rising
Minmatar
Venture Research and Resources
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Posted - 2007.03.12 10:19:00 -
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Yeah dark space for the win.
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Moloc
Antares Fleet Yards
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 10:19:00 -
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Tis already been posted about, and CCP already said they'd 'fix' it....
Jump with your map open I belive was the key.
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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.12 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: Plasticine Perfection
... make the backgrounds a client-selectable option.
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Hana Brenecki
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Posted - 2007.03.12 10:30:00 -
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No comment on how it's done. But if they promise to make it an optional feature of the game, I promise to look into how it's done and help then fix the bug.
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LancerSix
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.12 10:40:00 -
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/signed
Looks awesome without all those nebulae.
I'd definitely like a setting making it possible to turn them off, not like it would be hard to implement in the graphics options screen.
Or, alternatively, make random systems black space. It would add to the diversity of EVE solar systems, which are sometimes lacking slightly.
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RaWBLooD
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Posted - 2007.03.12 10:53:00 -
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im fine with the nebulae, the warping is whats weird, when theres no nebulae and its all light blue and in the back u see it just dissapear behind you like you are in some sort of tube ... looks sloppy.
i love when u look forward tho and the bright sun is ahead of ya.
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Ealiom
Blackhole Entry Point
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Posted - 2007.03.12 10:58:00 -
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The second screenshot looks just so nineties and and dont get me started on your navy blue uniform. Its like so last month girlfriend.
I think that some of the backgrounds need updating - specifically more varying themes
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Sovy Kurosei
Amarr
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 11:04:00 -
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Who would want to pilot the titan when you can pilot the universe. 
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Hana Brenecki
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Posted - 2007.03.12 11:31:00 -
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Edited by: Hana Brenecki on 12/03/2007 11:27:48
I don't mind the way that the warp tube looks. Sure it's a bit rough around the edges but the feeling of being in black space certainly makes up for it. Maybe if they give us black space they'll be tempted to pretty the warp tube up a little. But I'm not fussed. Black space would be enough to make me happy.
And I would have gone a black uniform too but there doesn't seem to be an Achur option for that. Maybe with Ambulation we'll get some more colours to play with...
Black space. yes.
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Sheriff Jones
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Posted - 2007.03.12 11:36:00 -
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Optional? I don't give a rats behind.
But if it's forced, then it's byebye game.
Gods forbid there would be something interesting other then dot dot dot...less dotss...dot...dot...out there.
It looks better this way, the blakcity black blackness is boring as f*ck.
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Hana Brenecki
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Posted - 2007.03.12 11:38:00 -
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Hence why it should be optional.
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Vasiliyan
PAX Interstellar Services
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 11:55:00 -
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I much prefer the current nebulae :( Eve looks great as it is!
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Vasiliyan
PAX Interstellar Services
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 11:55:00 -
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I much prefer the current nebulae :( Eve looks great as it is!
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Crydawner
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Posted - 2007.03.12 11:59:00 -
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seeing the same nebulae circle thing around every system but in a different colour palette does get kinda boring, quick :)
living in a city you'll never get to see a black sky, so i cycle out to the countryside sometimes and find a hill and just go 'ahhhhh'.
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Crydawner
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Posted - 2007.03.12 11:59:00 -
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seeing the same nebulae circle thing around every system but in a different colour palette does get kinda boring, quick :)
living in a city you'll never get to see a black sky, so i cycle out to the countryside sometimes and find a hill and just go 'ahhhhh'.
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Mr Siman
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Posted - 2007.03.12 12:06:00 -
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I'm sure there are plenty of PvPers out there that would be really happy to be able to put the graphics into "barebones tactical mode" which would consist of entire ships being represented by a single wireframe primative.
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Grant Smith
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.03.12 12:17:00 -
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I'd love to see more black space. Though, you are in Gultratren, im sure that system is black on top half and blue on the lower no?
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Hana Brenecki
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Posted - 2007.03.12 12:17:00 -
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Edited by: Hana Brenecki on 12/03/2007 12:20:12
I prefer a completely black space because it feels more immersive and atmospheric. Nothing to do with wanting a 'tactical view'. I'm not much of a PvPer and I don't play the game in a hardcore tactical kind of way. I just like black space, aesthetically. It feels more like you're in actual space, as opposed to in a tank of water that someone put dry ice into. I actually believe that cosmetically speaking, it's better to have darkness punctuated with twinkly stars than fluffy coloured clouds everywhere. But that's just me.
Of course, I respect that others do not think as I do about this. Hence - having it as an option is probably the best way to keep people like me happy and not annoy the rest who actually prefer the fluffy stuff.
The nebulae in different systems aren't exactly identical at the moment - in some nebulae you can actually point your view in a certain direction and have a black sky which works really nicely until you have to move your view. In other nebulae you can't do this as there is literally gaudy colour in all directions.
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Iesha Macabre
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Posted - 2007.03.12 12:23:00 -
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personally I really like the nebulas...there's just too much of them  I think it'd be cooler if the majority was black space, with a few specific nebulas - that way there'd be more of a wow factor for seeing them anyway.
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Zodiaq
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.12 12:38:00 -
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black space... would be so cool - personally got sick of these backgrounds long time ago - make playing harder... many time while npc/mission/pvp had to look around and look for enemy ships and can't find them quick because some 'uber cool' nebulae is in background with same colors as enemy ship making it impossible to distinguish... there is option to turn off sounds (which I use, of course, as sounds in eve are so... boring), should be one similar for backgrounds...
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.03.12 12:41:00 -
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Just give us -some- black systems. They don't have to all be black, it doesn't even have to be an option, but to go into system after system and see rainbow inspired gaseous clouds of oooooh colors is overkill.
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Depp Knight
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.12 13:03:00 -
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Edited by: Depp Knight on 12/03/2007 12:59:52
Hey, I dont want black space, seriously I dont. I do however want space to be a bit darker and have more variety. I would like more site seeing systems in the game and i want more non combat npcs flying around in empire making it look busy. But black space? Hell no, darker yes, but not black.
And who is this majority?
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Tareen Kashaar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.03.12 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Hana Brenecki
Edited by: Hana Brenecki on 12/03/2007 09:17:41
I really didn't think I would have to spell it out.
The sky is black. Doesn't it look fab?
No.
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Maam
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Posted - 2007.03.12 13:05:00 -
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I definitely agree that Eve should have far more options for what you want to turn on / off.
Colourful universe Vs "true" space look.
Deadspace clouds on / off.
Ship textures - I'd like the tactical overview to be able to go into a wireframe combat mode.
Optional, optional, optional - for those who are hard of thinking.
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Leandro Salazar
Bravehearts
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Maam
I definitely agree that Eve should have far more options for what you want to turn on / off.
Colourful universe Vs "true" space look.
Deadspace clouds on / off.
Ship textures - I'd like the tactical overview to be able to go into a wireframe combat mode.
Optional, optional, optional - for those who are hard of thinking.
/signed. And add optional warp sound to the list!
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Valkazm
Amarr
ECP Rogues
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.12 13:36:00 -
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ehhh cant belive i wasted my time reading all that ..
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.12 13:48:00 -
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I'd love an option to disable the background nebula. Would make it so much nicer tbh.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
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Posted - 2007.03.12 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: SumDum
Yeh, I don't get it. Sounds like I never will.
WTB the last 3 minutes of my life back
Sounds like you need to be asking for a lot more time then that.
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Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2007.03.12 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Hana Brenecki
Edited by: Hana Brenecki on 12/03/2007 09:11:24
Three beautiful screenshots.
I've never seen EVE look so good. Ever.
CCP, you know what I'm asking you for. And I don't ask you for much. But I want this. The majority of the community also wants it. Please at least make it an option, and I will love you forever. In fact, I already do love you forever. But do this one thing for me and I'll buy an extra account and never use it just so you can have more of my money, because you will have earnt it. Please consider!
You can already make pretty screenshots for attracting new players with Ctrl+Tab. The rest of us play with a clunky UI, looking at blinking icons that remind us of computer games in the early 1980's ...
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Dread Operative
SniggWaffe
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.12 14:52:00 -
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I like the nebulae but please, satisfy the few that want a black space over me.
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Remedios Sonrisa
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.03.12 15:10:00 -
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/signed
Have been wanting a black background for several months now. It is hard to see some of the white icons with bright nebulae and nearby stars. Sure the background is nice to ogle whilst traveling or doing a lot of AFK tasks, but when you are fighting, they become extraneous.
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St Dragon
NexGen Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.12 15:20:00 -
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I belive CCP ahve stated that nebulas will become optionall soon 
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Flapp
Dog Tags
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Posted - 2007.03.12 19:33:00 -
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/Signed, make it an option.
Not because i like black space too much, but to improve Situational Awareness as seen here.
Don't want to derail the thread, but IMO this would go hand-in-glove with GUI improvements like a transparency slider and no-click-through for the Overview.
Would reduce eye cancer worldwide for sure...
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Hana Brenecki
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Posted - 2007.03.13 06:29:00 -
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CCP have definitely said that we'll have black space with optional nebula soon? Where?
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Foopadoo
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Posted - 2007.03.13 06:44:00 -
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I've said it before and I'll say it again
Fancy skyboxes should be few and far between like a rare treat!
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Roy Batty68
Caldari
Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2007.03.13 06:47:00 -
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You just can't make subtle posts on a forum. Half the people won't get it as can be seen from half the people here... uh, not getting it. 
Anyway, SUPER /SIGNED for the ability to turn on/off the background nebula. I have left areas of eve soley because I could not stand the bright pink or whatever background. There are shades of background that make it almost impossible to tell if your modules are pulsing red. Kind of crap when a graphics feature gets in the way of playability.
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chrisreeves
Gallente
Asgard Protectorate
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.13 06:52:00 -
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This has to do with session changes i.e., undocking, jumping through a gate while either having your map open or closing it just as you change session or split second after changing session.
Someone was offering to sell instructions...lol. I found that the undocking one works best but every time I do it, it happens by chance. If I try to make it happen, it never does.
/signed - I really like the way it looks. The nebula give me a headache sometimes.
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Redpants
Gallente
Dead Eagle
North Star Confederation
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Posted - 2007.03.13 09:45:00 -
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I don't know about shutting backgrounds on or off, but I do think that in the new build of EVE coming down the pipe there should be a MASSIVE amount of variety to the backgrounds. There are hundreds of different types of natural celestial bodies in space that are not accounted for in EVE out in the distance.
Personally I would love for some systems to be entirely black without nebula's or not have the nebulas take up 100% of the area unless you're right up close to them. Which leads to the suggestion that some nebulas should be seen further away and as you jump systems it get's larger and closer. That would also give us better ideas of where geographicly we are in the galaxy.
But the overall point for me is the backgrounds need a much greater variety, black space would be fabulous to come across once and awhile.
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Sixtyniner
The Movement
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Posted - 2007.03.13 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Hana Brenecki
CCP have definitely said that we'll have black space with optional nebula soon? Where?
About a month ago there was a thread about this thing, and I believe Kieron said that he would give the proposition to the designers or such. So hopefully weŚll have an optional, black space :D
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Krexus
Amarr
Reunited
O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.03.13 10:46:00 -
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What about some systems where there is almost no light? you know some suns die and stuff, so there is so little light that you'd only really recognize ships because of their navigation lights.
IMHO that'd be cool, like flying on instruments ( overview ) And ofc make the systems more diverse some with nebs some without etc etc
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Araxmas
Black Lance
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.13 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: Araxmas on 13/03/2007 11:19:12
Originally by: Tareen Kashaar
Originally by: Hana Brenecki
Edited by: Hana Brenecki on 12/03/2007 09:17:41
I really didn't think I would have to spell it out.
The sky is black. Doesn't it look fab?
No.
Seconded
edit: although i must admit I would atleast like them to be different, gets abit dull seeing the same neb. Maybe have like some black or even see little space anomalies in background like the sun being stripped by a black hole or something.
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Denrace
Amarr
JEM Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.13 11:40:00 -
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Edited by: Denrace on 13/03/2007 11:37:22
Eurgh, hideous.
Anybody who enjoys the aesthetics of pure black space in over 5000+ solarsystems must have been beaten into that schema with a gnarled mace.
It looks HORRIBLE.
Massive and epic space-nebula vistas bursting with life and colour - hopefully with some motion in them like massive superstorms(think HW2 i guess) FORTHEFREAKINWIN
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Posted - 2007.03.13 11:41:00 -
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hi
I agree with making space black.
Remove nebulas and such stupid stuff from missions too..
Sun and nebulas are to bright, it hurts player's eyes.
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Drizit
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.03.13 12:10:00 -
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Edited by: Drizit on 13/03/2007 12:06:45
I agree with having the option to have them or not. Those who want them on can still have them and those of us who would prefer them turned off can have our way as well. Is this so much to ask?
I have found the bug is something to do with the new map zoom. I have a screenshot of my Indy against a black sky with "you are here" in a box right on top of it. Since I could see my Indy, I already guessed that's where I was. When you zoom right in to the max magnification on the map, you can almost see your own ship. When you close the map at that point, the client "forgets" to load the nebulae and, in my case "forgets" to remove the labels.
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Pika Chiu
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Posted - 2007.03.13 12:50:00 -
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how about we just remove the graphics alltogether and just play with our overviews, better yet make it a plug in for MS Office!!!
actually i think having it optional is a good idea, sometimes i would like to turn the sky off once in a while.
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Brian Kith
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Posted - 2007.03.13 13:10:00 -
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Sign me up for seeing the cold black depths of space . . . without all the "clouds" and other crud.
I'm fine with it being an "option". Mine will quickly be switched to "off" so I can see space as it truly is.
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Hana Brenecki
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Posted - 2007.03.14 07:39:00 -
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About a month ago there was a thread about this thing, and I believe Kieron said that he would give the proposition to the designers or such. So hopefully weŚll have an optional, black space :D
Okay, that's quite a bit different to what someone else posted in this thread a couple pages ago, saying that it was definitely going to happen.
I do very much hope that they give us the choice. For those whining about how black space would be awful - well that's all the more reason to have it as optional, then you can play it your way, and I'll play it mine. Currently, Elite on the Commodore 64, for all its low resolution pixelness, still has a more convincing feeling of being in 'deep space' than EVE. With the option of black space, that would certainly change in EVE's favour. I will cry if they fix the map bug and don't give us optional black space in return...
*crosses fingers*
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Yes! Black background please! What was the verdict when keiron asked the devs about this? Did he ever say? Did I miss it?
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