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Ethidium Bromide ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.14 12:01:00 - [61] it is very interesting how many people feel the urge to comment on something they weren't even part of. it is very interesting how SF do forum work for U'K as they were not able to help with defending. oh wait, that means you tried to help someone who claims space.... hm... SF i ask you how does that go with your 'who claims space needs to be killed' philosophy? Originally by: George Petsch Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.14 12:16:00 - [62] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Rodj Blake Why would I want a precise location check on someone who is irrelevant? Why indeed? Time will tell if you consider our location as irrelevent as well. Enjoy your exile. Gaven laughs You are sounding like Lion El'Johnson now, except when he made such nonsensical statements he actually had a war with an Amarrian organization. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Keerie Jeanmot Gallente Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.03.14 12:26:00 - [63] Originally by: Ethidium Bromide it is very interesting how many people feel the urge to comment on something they weren't even part of. it is very interesting how SF do forum work for U'K as they were not able to help with defending. oh wait, that means you tried to help someone who claims space.... hm... SF i ask you how does that go with your 'who claims space needs to be killed' philosophy? When language has been butchered and bled of meaning, how do we understand "claim space philosophy"? When freedom means occupation, when liberty means chains, when reform means repression, when words like "empowerment" and "peacekeeping" make your blood run cold - why, then, SF philosophy could mean whatever you want it to mean. Why is that such a big deal? Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.14 12:31:00 - [64] Originally by: Sidyous The Cosmopolite has not quite reached the same level of spouting nonsense that Revan or Russo did before her. For the moment I think she will make a good substitute to sit on the bench seen as Revan is still around with her mad ramblings. It is good having them around though as it gives my slaves something to laugh at in their spare time (and yes I do allow them the occasional hour to themselves), helps keeps morale high and they feel a lot better surrounded by people who actually have goals and direction than a bunch of anarchists who can't seem stick to their ideals and are essentially homeless. You do realise that Cosmopolite is actually a man don't you? I ask because I begin to wonder if you idenkit-amarri-nationalist people are just reading pre-prepared prompt sheets or something. You lack in creativity everything of value it seems. Star Fraction is recruiting
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.14 12:34:00 - [65] Originally by: Ethidium Bromide it is very interesting how many people feel the urge to comment on something they weren't even part of. And this coming from the Amarri bloc is the height of hilarity really. I mean its not that we in the Star Fraction haven't had to put up with your innane logic-defiling outbursts of puling chicanary on every single one of our previous campaign threads is it? (oops, maybe it is) Star Fraction is recruiting
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.14 12:54:00 - [66] Since you seem so keen to contribute to this thread Jasmine, perhaps we could have your reaction to the news that Ushra'Khan no longer hold sovereignty over QR-K85? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.03.14 13:22:00 - [67] Originally by: Rodj Blake Since you seem so keen to contribute to this thread Jasmine, perhaps we could have your reaction to the news that Ushra'Khan no longer hold sovereignty over QR-K85? I don't know about Jasmine, but certainly I'll open a bottle of the finest champagne to celebrate this fact. Hundred thousands of sub-humans killed, resources and industry destroyed, Amarr loyalist scum troops put on the ground now to hold and occupy the stinky minmatar location, sanctity of their connection home broken every passing day, and a whole civilization pushed back years and years! Simply delicious.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.14 13:39:00 - [68] Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 14/03/2007 13:38:38 I do wonder how long your liaison with the Star Fraction will last when you praise an event which they were willing to pay a heavy price in blood to try to prevent. edit: for clarity. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.14 13:53:00 - [69] Staying true to ones ideology and acting consistently are perhaps the greatest "proof" of ones dedication to any goal. The loyalty and consistent actions of the Amarrian loyalists in defending our home against terrorism and the fact we've never waned from that goal is proof we are who we say we are. The benefit is that our word actually means something as you always know where we stand and how we'll react. The Amarrians will not say one thing and do another. We will not abandon our ideology when it's "in the way" of doing something we want to do. We will not abandon our ideology and our morality when it suits us and use any excuse to justify any action. We are who we say we are. Isn't it greating being Amarr. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.03.14 13:58:00 - [70] Edited by: Revan Neferis on 14/03/2007 13:55:59 Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 14/03/2007 13:38:38 I do wonder how long your liaison with the Star Fraction will last when you praise an event which they were willing to pay a heavy price in blood to try to prevent. edit: for clarity. My "liason" with SF comes since the Verisum times and will last as long as both entities decides it's profitable for us. I don't care what the Free Captains of SF do in their time when not operating in business relations with Bloodveil, as I wouldn't tolerate Free Captains of SF telling me how I should conduct the matters of faith inside my Temple. Now, if you ask me personally to indulge you with details of my personal relation with their most enchanting Lady Jade, be sure that the way you refered to this as "price of blood" paid by SF enticed me in some ways. I'll take this "Price of Blood" as a sacrifice to the Universe and will bless the gift with Sani Sabik style: for every ship she may consider as at miminum a "loss" I'll replace it with another ship of higher status to her personal hangars. Praised be the Bloodsheed. Edit to fix: (( quoted twice))
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.14 14:20:00 - [71] Originally by: Archbishop Staying true to ones ideology and acting consistently are perhaps the greatest "proof" of ones dedication to any goal. The loyalty and consistent actions of the Amarrian loyalists in defending our home against terrorism and the fact we've never waned from that goal is proof we are who we say we are. The benefit is that our word actually means something as you always know where we stand and how we'll react. The Amarrians will not say one thing and do another. We will not abandon our ideology when it's "in the way" of doing something we want to do. We will not abandon our ideology and our morality when it suits us and use any excuse to justify any action. We are who we say we are. Isn't it greating being Amarr. Archbishop Interestingly, SF also maintains it ideology. Its just that their ideology has more thought and depth in it than the motivations of a story character created by a 13 year old for his school project. Just because you don't understand it as your narrow mind can only perceive in a shallow, 2 dimensional, scriptureÆsque fashion, does not make the SF any less true to its ideals. -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.14 14:31:00 - [72] Originally by: Sable Schroedinger Originally by: Archbishop Staying true to ones ideology and acting consistently are perhaps the greatest "proof" of ones dedication to any goal. The loyalty and consistent actions of the Amarrian loyalists in defending our home against terrorism and the fact we've never waned from that goal is proof we are who we say we are. The benefit is that our word actually means something as you always know where we stand and how we'll react. The Amarrians will not say one thing and do another. We will not abandon our ideology when it's "in the way" of doing something we want to do. We will not abandon our ideology and our morality when it suits us and use any excuse to justify any action. We are who we say we are. Isn't it greating being Amarr. Archbishop Interestingly, SF also maintains it ideology. Its just that their ideology has more thought and depth in it than the motivations of a story character created by a 13 year old for his school project. Just because you don't understand it as your narrow mind can only perceive in a shallow, 2 dimensional, scriptureÆsque fashion, does not make the SF any less true to its ideals. In my experience, if someone talks like a flip-flopper and acts like a flip-flopper then they almost certainly are a flip-flopper. But enough of that, perhaps you would care to answer the question that I presented to Jasmine earlier? She appears to have gone strangely quiet since then. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.14 14:42:00 - [73] Originally by: Rodj Blake Since you seem so keen to contribute to this thread Jasmine, perhaps we could have your reaction to the news that Ushra'Khan no longer hold sovereignty over QR-K85? Speaking for the Star Fraction, we regard this as unwelcome news. It is a matter of regret that the Defiance Operation allies were unable to prevent this. The Freecaptains of the Star Fraction do not regret for one second our involvement in the matter. We express continued support for the Ushra'Khan in their struggle with the forces of imperial tyranny represented by the CVA, other Amarrian paramilitaries and the lickspittle vassals of the Amarrian bloc. On the question of ideological consistency, those who are truly interested in deciding for themselves whether the actions of the Freecaptains in this matter were in line with our ideals or not are invited to consult some notes on the Political Philosophy of The Star Fraction which reflect the long-held and maintained core ideology of the movement. Those who are merely interested in scoring cheap political points will, I am sure, continue to make unsupported and straightforwardly incorrect comments as to the ideology of the Star Fraction and what following it implies. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Recruitment
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.14 14:45:00 - [74] I understand the Free Captains have a phrase: "wardec or stfu." Words of wisdom as far as this old soldier is concerned. Words more potent and more meaningful than rabid intergal hijacking in the face of defeat at loyalist hands. Not happy with how the campaign in QR turned out? Do something about it. Or shut up. Garreck shrugs Or continue your trademark hypocrisy.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:12:00 - [75] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/03/2007 15:08:28 Originally by: The Cosmopolite Speaking for the Star Fraction, we regard this as unwelcome news. It is a matter of regret that the Defiance Operation allies were unable to prevent this. The Freecaptains of the Star Fraction do not regret for one second our involvement in the matter. We express continued support for the Ushra'Khan in their struggle with the forces of imperial tyranny represented by the CVA, other Amarrian paramilitaries and the lickspittle vassals of the Amarrian bloc. On the question of ideological consistency, those who are truly interested in deciding for themselves whether the actions of the Freecaptains in this matter were in line with our ideals or not are invited to consult some notes on the Political Philosophy of The Star Fraction which reflect the long-held and maintained core ideology of the movement. Yes, your charter is a very interesting read. I particularly enjoyed this part: Originally by: SF Charter * We believe that policing other peopleÆs safety as a matter of course is akin to mutually regressive servitude; since the protector is obligated to defend the indefensible (since ignorance and vulnerability invites oppression) and the protected is maintained in a status of nanve victim-hood that establishes an entirely unacceptable caste divide between fellow residents of the frontier. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:20:00 - [76] Originally by: Garreck Or continue your trademark hypocrisy. You'd best check your own hypocrisy before accusing others. Please note who first mentioned the Star Fraction on this thread and who has repeatedly asked the Star Fraction to comment in this thread. So tell him to shut up or render the Amarrian Bloc hypocritical by complaining that we are commenting on IGS when other Amarr Empire loyalists are asking us to comment. As for the defeat, we acknowledge it. We took part knowing full well it was a possibility and we do not seek to evade the consequences of our actions. I repeat that we do not regret our actions and, while we regret the outcome of the battle for QR-K85, we will take our lessons from the experience and you can be sure we will pay attention to them in the future. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Recruitment
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:24:00 - [77] Originally by: Rodj Blake Yes, your charter is a very interesting read. I particularly enjoyed this part: Originally by: SF Charter * We believe that policing other peopleÆs safety as a matter of course is akin to mutually regressive servitude; since the protector is obligated to defend the indefensible (since ignorance and vulnerability invites oppression) and the protected is maintained in a status of nanve victim-hood that establishes an entirely unacceptable caste divide between fellow residents of the frontier. I am so glad you enjoyed that section and I am sure you will appreciate that it is in no way in conflict with any actions we have recently taken. Anyone less sophisticated or in tune with the subtleties of our ideology than the paramilitary, Blake, is invited to attempt to show how we have acted contrary to the letter or spirit of the statement he quotes. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Recruitment
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:27:00 - [78] Originally by: The Cosmopolite Originally by: Rodj Blake Yes, your charter is a very interesting read. I particularly enjoyed this part: Originally by: SF Charter * We believe that policing other peopleÆs safety as a matter of course is akin to mutually regressive servitude; since the protector is obligated to defend the indefensible (since ignorance and vulnerability invites oppression) and the protected is maintained in a status of nanve victim-hood that establishes an entirely unacceptable caste divide between fellow residents of the frontier. I am so glad you enjoyed that section and I am sure you will appreciate that it is in no way in conflict with any actions we have recently taken. Anyone less sophisticated or in tune with the subtleties of our ideology than the paramilitary, Blake, is invited to attempt to show how we have acted contrary to the letter or spirit of the statement he quotes. The Cosmopolite Yes, because of course intervening in a war in order to protect the assets and personnel of the side with which you feel an affinity is in no way policing their safety. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:28:00 - [79] Originally by: Rodj Blake But enough of that, perhaps you would care to answer the question that I presented to Jasmine earlier? She appears to have gone strangely quiet since then. I do apologise for taking longer than an hour to reply Rodj. I'm afraid I use my primary clone implant slot for an Infowar mindlink rather than a direct Neural spike to the Galactic Summit "new posts feed". (each to their own though). So you were asking where we were? Getting ready to humiliate the Emperor's finest in the capital system of the Amarr old chap - Where else? Star Fraction is recruiting
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:32:00 - [80] Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 14/03/2007 15:29:23 Originally by: Rodj Blake Yes, because of course intervening in a war in order to protect the assets and personnel of the side with which you feel an affinity is in no way policing their safety. It is in no way policing the safety of anyone as a matter of course or standing policy and it in no way reflects an obligation between the parties that operates without consideration by both parties of their interests and how they interact in a particular instance. Assenting to lend forces to a struggle which we see as worthy and with at least one outcome which we would see as in our interests is not to enter into a state of becoming either a 'protector' or rendering as 'nanve victims' those we fight alongside as equals in the field of battle . I thank you for the opportunity to clarify these points. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Recruitment
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:33:00 - [81] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Rodj Blake But enough of that, perhaps you would care to answer the question that I presented to Jasmine earlier? She appears to have gone strangely quiet since then. I do apologise for taking longer than an hour to reply Rodj. I'm afraid I use my primary clone implant slot for an Infowar mindlink rather than a direct Neural spike to the Galactic Summit "new posts feed". (each to their own though). So you were asking where we were? Getting ready to humiliate the Emperor's finest in the capital system of the Amarr old chap - Where else? Actually, no, I wasn't asking where you were. Like I say, you're irrelevant. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:33:00 - [82] Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 14/03/2007 15:37:55 Originally by: The Cosmopolite Originally by: Garreck Or continue your trademark hypocrisy. You'd best check your own hypocrisy before accusing others. Please note who first mentioned the Star Fraction on this thread and who has repeatedly asked the Star Fraction to comment in this thread. So tell him to shut up or render the Amarrian Bloc hypocritical by complaining that we are commenting on IGS when other Amarr Empire loyalists are asking us to comment. As for the defeat, we acknowledge it. We took part knowing full well it was a possibility and we do not seek to evade the consequences of our actions. I repeat that we do not regret our actions and, while we regret the outcome of the battle for QR-K85, we will take our lessons from the experience and you can be sure we will pay attention to them in the future. The Cosmopolite I assume you are talking about Revan. It seems to me that her erratic and amusing involvement in this thread is the only reason SF was mentioned at all. You might want to consider that her relationship with your organization means that people associate you with her antics before trying to suggest something like the above. edit: And Jasmine,your presence is utterly irrelevant until such a time as we see a war declaration from your organization, and when we see such an act it will become a minor annoyance at worst. The Star Fraction no threat to the Empire and as such is only a target of opportunity. I would also suggest that you save your bragging until you have something to brag about, moving ships to Amarr under CONCORD protection is hardly a feat. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Wren Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:33:00 - [83] Fool, they are not policing our saftey, they were trying to block the expansion of slavers and their archaic oppressive beliefs. Try to 'get' what is going on before speaking. ---------------- Wren Says: "Chirpy Chirp Chirp.... DAMNIT"
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:36:00 - [84] Originally by: Rodj Blake Actually, no, I wasn't asking where you were. Like I say, you're irrelevant. You spend a lot of time trying to convince yourself of that fact - getting jittery Rodj? Star Fraction is recruiting
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:36:00 - [85] Originally by: Wren Fool, they are not policing our saftey, they were trying to block the expansion of slavers and their archaic oppressive beliefs. Try to 'get' what is going on before speaking. Whereas allying yourselves with pirates and anarchists is presumably the epitome of progressive thinking? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:37:00 - [86] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Rodj Blake Actually, no, I wasn't asking where you were. Like I say, you're irrelevant. You spend a lot of time trying to convince yourself of that fact - getting jittery Rodj? Not at all. After the events of the last few days, I'm feeling quite chipper. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:38:00 - [87] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine So you were asking where we were? Getting ready to humiliate the Emperor's finest in the capital system of the Amarr old chap - Where else? I won a bet it seems. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Pezzle Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:45:00 - [88] CVA space will remain open to all non hostiles. Indeed, even in times of conflict the CVA has not wavered from this policy. Anyone who wishes to visit or move into the area may do so as long as they are willing to obey a few simple rules. This applies to ALL races. Contact the CVA should you have questions. Thank you.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:45:00 - [89] Gaven laughs Someone actually was silly enough to bet against you on this one? Its been utterly obvious for at least a week now. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Solusar Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:46:00 - [90] So you are going to camp the Emperor station in Amarr. I think Privateers already have rights to that one, so expect some competition for those kills.

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