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CHoKeD
Minmatar Caffeine Commodities Company
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Posted - 2007.03.12 13:54:00 -
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Edited by: CHoKeD on 12/03/2007 13:51:07 Within a few days at this pace there will be no Matari outposts not under Slaver control within providence. Why?
The slavers have banded as one as started assaulting all the Sov systems and station systems within Providence. The slavers are fighting as one, fighting a divided Matari front. They are bringing capital ships funded by slave trading and funded by the pillaging of OUR people. Thier golden fleets are red with our blood and are now overrunning a beacon of light in the darkness.
ISS has fallen and with that UK's major local ally has fallen. BOS/STFU/UK really cant manage a defense on their own without industrial support. While each of the alliances has industry to support its own pilots during normal times, this is wartimes and losses are high, and they really cant afford to replace the ships and defend against the capitals.
The Matari alliances are divided. EM/NMTZ you are but 15 jumps from an area where you could really help your brethren during this engagement. The same token, UK you are also 15 jumps from an area where you could have really helped your brethren during thier engagements (CVA, PIE, VV and now INFOD). Do you think the slavers are stupid? They see the lack of cooperation between the Matari pilots and its a perfect chance to pounce.
So they do what we have been claiming is our strength all along. They UNITE and we as Matari cant stand up against them. If we can't unite now to repell a capsuleer alliance what the hell is going to happen when the Amarr Empire gets its head on straight again? When they come to "reclaim" our children, our brothers, and our other kin still planetside? If we cannot repell the small amount of pilots UK is facing now, how are we going to repell the endless funds of the Amarr Empire?
So this is the Matari race you all stand for now? This is the great race that banded together REGARDLESS OF POLITICS and regardless of TRIBE to revolt against the biggest Empire at the time? This is the race that claims so much space because one slave beat his slaver with a single yet mighty Khumaak?
So this is it then eh? This is the beginning another dark time for us. Another century enslaved because we are all to stubborn to bond together and to unite under one flag of Matari self preservation. Thats the path we are headed. I know you all see it and are all as disgusted by the self realization truth I am speaking now. There is only one way to stop it, and you all know what must be done.
Only you can change the path. Its never been easy, but now its imperative, or all hope is indeed lost.
----------------------- I fly for my tribe. I die with my tribe. |

Meklon
Caldari Minmatar United Freedom Front Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.03.12 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: CHoKeD
The Matari alliances are divided. EM/NMTZ you are but 15 jumps from an area where you could really help your brethren during this engagement. The same token, UK you are also 15 jumps from an area where you could have really helped your brethren during thier engagements (CVA, PIE, VV and now INFOD). Do you think the slavers are stupid? They see the lack of cooperation between the Matari pilots and its a perfect chance to pounce.
Electus Matari support is already aiding the Ushra'Khan in this latest effort to help fortify one of their outposts - infact we have been giving support for the past few days. We have always had close ties with the U'K and, despite recent political differances between the Republic and the Ushra'Khan, we will not stand and watch as more Matari, whatever their political stance, fight tooth and nail against higher odds.
While I do applaud your call for aid for the Ushra'Khan and her Allies - be sure that the Matari organisations around the cluster are giving it thought. Unfortunatly the strength of politics is always the deciding factor CHoKeD, while I agree that a combined Matari fleet could cleanse this assault, the reality is that once again politics must rise it's ugly face.
I will not pretend to speak for the other Republican Alliances, however, I believe they will bring their own responses in due course. -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======-
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Tomahawk Bliss
INTAKI UNION The OSS
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Posted - 2007.03.12 14:12:00 -
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they started the conflict, why should anyone care? Ushra'Khan don't support the Republic, EM and NZ do. why would they work together?
Besides Ushra'Khan has a history of using non-faction aligned and non-political outsiders to support them like ISS and Imperial Order. they sold their Minmatar identity to the warlords of lawless space a long time ago, your plight is an isk short and day late.
Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think. GLBTA Channel |

Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.12 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 12/03/2007 14:10:38
The U'K have used their outposts as bases to launch terrorist attacks against the Empire.
This will not be tolerated.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Rakiro
Gallente Two Brothers Mining Corp.
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Posted - 2007.03.12 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Rakiro on 12/03/2007 14:11:02 As much as I sympethize with our Matari allies, I think that many of you have lost sight of who you are and what you stand for.
This civil unrest that is spreading through your systems must stop unless you all want to become slaves again. You MUST present a united front before you can even hope to turn aside a dedicated Amarrian offensive.
An Ancient philosopher once said: "We stand as one, lest we perish alone."
-Rakiro |

Tharrn
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.03.12 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 12/03/2007 14:10:38
The U'K have used their outposts as bases to launch terrorist attacks against the Empire.
This will not be tolerated.
And now they are also used to accomodate their newfound pirate and anarchist friends. Unity is currently a haven for the lawless and rabble.
Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
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Hardin
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: CHoKeD
Within a few days at this pace there will be no Matari outposts not under Slaver control within providence.
Although I would like this to be the case I don't think it's strictly true!
While I can understand your need to ignite passion within Minmatar ranks (as more and more of your brothers recognise that the Ammatar path is the right one), you do Ushra'khan a disservice...
They are by no means 'out of the fight' and a lot remains to be settled.
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Darius Shakor
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.12 14:37:00 -
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Edited by: Darius Shakor on 12/03/2007 15:22:34 Edited by: Darius Shakor on 12/03/2007 14:35:59 I would like to point out that NMTZ and Fate Weavers severed relations with us, not the other way around, simply because they did not agree with our views on the republic or the way we as an alliance, and some individuals, chose to express themselves in the heat after Karishal's death. If we do fall in Providence because we are divided then we did not divide anyone and we hold our heads high. It will not stop us from doing what must be done.
And with that said, we have seen aid from many members of EM, NMTZ and some from Fate Weavers as well in the last 24 hours regardless of differences. Those that rise above the differences of opinion on the Republic are coming to help without demands being made of us. Their leaders could learn a lesson or two from them on what it is to be Minmatar.
The CVA attack has caught us in a sudden weak moment. Our leader Maggot is busy planet side this weekend and several other council members are also away on personal business. Also in the last 24 hours we have suffered a major communications breakdown in our primary system (removed - DS) which has delayed our mobilisation. And even if this was not the case, the whole point of a surprise attack is to gain a swift victory on an off balanced enemy. Take this for what it is worth CVA, you have played well in the opening gambit and I commend your skill and organisation.
Where we go from here though is a long and bloody road to hell, regardless of how victorious you are in this siege. You will pay a very high price if you wish to take any of our systems from us. And rest assured we will not break and run at one defeat. You only make us stronger. ------
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Axristos
EPSILON TEAM Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.12 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Darius Shakor Edited by: Darius Shakor on 12/03/2007 14:35:59 Where we go from here though is a long and bloody road to hell, regardless of how victorious you are in this siege. You will pay a very high price if you wish to take any of our systems from us. And rest assured we will not break and run at one defeat. You only make us stronger.
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Hardin
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 14:52:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 12/03/2007 15:35:38
Originally by: Darius Shakor Removed
I would suggest you retract this point. CVA never has and never will indulge in such actions. Even the implication is a slur. We are Amarrians, not common criminals. Your comms/leadership issues were completely coincidental to an operation that was long planned.
See you in space terrorists...
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AMARR VICTOR |

Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2007.03.12 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: CHoKeD
The Matari alliances are divided. EM/NMTZ you are but 15 jumps from an area where you could really help your brethren during this engagement. The same token, UK you are also 15 jumps from an area where you could have really helped your brethren during thier engagements (CVA, PIE, VV and now INFOD). Do you think the slavers are stupid? They see the lack of cooperation between the Matari pilots and its a perfect chance to pounce.
Providence is not the abode of the heathens. More factions recognise that there is no place for the U'K in providence.
Delictum 23216 Official forums |

Darius Shakor
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.12 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin I would suggest you retract this point. CVA never has and never will indulge in such actions.
((Removed. It was not aimed at you and simply thinking aloud about another internal topic.)) ------
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Wren
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.12 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo
Originally by: CHoKeD
The Matari alliances are divided. EM/NMTZ you are but 15 jumps from an area where you could really help your brethren during this engagement. The same token, UK you are also 15 jumps from an area where you could have really helped your brethren during thier engagements (CVA, PIE, VV and now INFOD). Do you think the slavers are stupid? They see the lack of cooperation between the Matari pilots and its a perfect chance to pounce.
Providence is not the abode of the heathens. More factions recognise that there is no place for the U'K in providence.
Only the first few opening notes have been played in this epic arrangement. I'd hate for you to miss a movement, so please pay attention over the coming weeks. ----------------
Wren Says: "Chirpy Chirp Chirp.... DAMNIT" |

Hardin
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Darius Shakor
Originally by: Hardin I would suggest you retract this point. CVA never has and never will indulge in such actions.
((Removed. It was not aimed at you and simply thinking aloud about another internal topic.))
Thank you. I have edited my post also.
While it may be a matter of internal debate within Ushra'khan I can assure you that CVA leadership knew nothing of this. Indeed the first we knew of it was when EVE Tribune reported internal UK communications difficulties.
If by some happenstance there was a CVA member involved (and btw non-leadership members were not informed of our target till after our fleet was formed for security reasons) then they would be publicly flogged, before being executed by firing squad.
------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607
AMARR VICTOR |

Darius Shakor
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.12 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin
If by some happenstance there was a CVA member involved (and btw non-leadership members were not informed of our target till after our fleet was formed for security reasons) then they would be publicly flogged, before being executed by firing squad.
In that case I hope many of your number get rebellious and start breaking your rules. Will make our job that much easier. ------
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Naphtalia
Caldari The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion
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Posted - 2007.03.12 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn
And now they are also used to accomodate their newfound pirate and anarchist friends. Unity is currently a haven for the lawless and rabble.
Be careful what you wish for old man..
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Aran Cole
Minmatar The Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2007.03.12 22:37:00 -
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Vigilance is our shield It protects us from our squalid past Knowledge is our weapon With which we carve a path To an enlightened future _______________________
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Kabajashi San
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.03.13 01:51:00 -
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United we stand, divided we fall.
And if we fall because we are divided and that leads to the Republic thinking about the importance of being united, our death will have had a purpose. And if a hundred of us fall and take one slaver with them, our death will not be in vain. And if we are scattered among the stars and and you will finally have your way with the tomb you are attacking, you will make his legend even bigger for it took an entire fleet to get to it. You feared him in life, you cannot even let him rest when he is dead. So even then our fighting spirit will be legendary and our children and grand children will take pride in us because we stood up for a just cause.
That's what you fail to understand. You cannot win this fight. No matter how many ships you destroy or how many pilots you pod or how many stations you put to pieces - You won't silence us. You won't silence the hope we give to our enslaved brothers and sisters. We will continue to rub in your face the injustice you are spreading. That's the paradoxy you will have to deal with: The more you win on the military side, the more you will lose on the moral side. Because whatever you call us, what you do is simply kill people fighting for the life of their brothers. And if it takes another hundred years to free them, so be it.
You cannot win.
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Graelyn
Amarr The Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2007.03.13 04:10:00 -
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Quote: And if a hundred of us fall and take one slaver with them, our death will not be in vain.
Your proposal is acceptable.
Admiral/Founder - The Aegis Militia |

Karn Mithralia
Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.13 05:07:00 -
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Do not dismiss us so easily.
Taken by suprise our enemies gained a hold on QR, where Karishal's body lays in rest, yet we fight on, and as of my posting Karishal's Defiance outpost remains ours and our labourers work around the clock reinforcing tower defences.
If we should lose QR, then Unity Station stands strong, and far more formidably defended.
It is never over until the fat lady sings.
What we perhaps lack in numbers, we do not lack in determination. We are not cowed. We fight on, come join us, there are slavers to slay. -----------------------------------------
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Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.13 08:44:00 -
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Quote: It is never over until the fat lady sings.
True enough.
Yet today over 300,000 of your partisans were captured or killed by Amarrian forces.
But yes, this war is not nearly over and will not be over until the warmongering terrorists have been reduced to a similar state. The universe will see peace, even if we must slaughter warmongers by the tens of thousands to achieve it.
Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public' |

Revan Neferis
Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.03.13 10:53:00 -
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Returning from vacation and tunning IGS always brings interesting news. Things happening here and there, The Amarr loyalists and the livestock minmatar eating each other for a piece of dead space... how "amusing"
The obstinacy of the indolent and weak is less conquerable than that of the fiery and bold.... Interesting Times.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.13 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Revan Neferis Returning from vacation and tunning IGS always brings interesting news. Things happening here and there, The Amarr loyalists and the livestock minmatar eating each other for a piece of dead space... how "amusing"
The obstinacy of the indolent and weak is less conquerable than that of the fiery and bold.... Interesting Times.
I'm sure that your other half would be very interested to hear you say that.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Revan Neferis
Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.03.13 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Revan Neferis Returning from vacation and tunning IGS always brings interesting news. Things happening here and there, The Amarr loyalists and the livestock minmatar eating each other for a piece of dead space... how "amusing"
The obstinacy of the indolent and weak is less conquerable than that of the fiery and bold.... Interesting Times.
I'm sure that your other half would be very interested to hear you say that.
Again wanting to presume what my beloved and I discuss in our "private intimate" moments or trying to get a share? Don't even start, you may find yourself in an ackward "position".
Continue to kill yourselves, loyalists and Slaves, both considered to me the same cast of inferior beings. Sani Sabik thank you for the purging.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.13 14:28:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 13/03/2007 14:25:13
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Revan Neferis Returning from vacation and tunning IGS always brings interesting news. Things happening here and there, The Amarr loyalists and the livestock minmatar eating each other for a piece of dead space... how "amusing"
The obstinacy of the indolent and weak is less conquerable than that of the fiery and bold.... Interesting Times.
I'm sure that your other half would be very interested to hear you say that.
Again wanting to presume what my beloved and I discuss in our "private intimate" moments or trying to get a share? Don't even start, you may find yourself in an ackward "position".
Continue to kill yourselves, loyalists and Slaves, both considered to me the same cast of inferior beings. Sani Sabik thank you for the purging.
You should do some research and compare the number of SF pods lost during this campaign with the total number of loyalist pods killed by anyone in QR-K85.
It just strikes me as odd that you would be grateful to us for purging your lover's alliance.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Agustus Caesar
Minmatar Caesar and Sons Salvaging
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Posted - 2007.03.13 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Revan Neferis
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Revan Neferis Returning from vacation and tunning IGS always brings interesting news. Things happening here and there, The Amarr loyalists and the livestock minmatar eating each other for a piece of dead space... how "amusing"
The obstinacy of the indolent and weak is less conquerable than that of the fiery and bold.... Interesting Times.
I'm sure that your other half would be very interested to hear you say that.
Again wanting to presume what my beloved and I discuss in our "private intimate" moments or trying to get a share? Don't even start, you may find yourself in an ackward "position".
Continue to kill yourselves, loyalists and Slaves, both considered to me the same cast of inferior beings. Sani Sabik thank you for the purging.
Do you have a point? Or is this your typical cry for attention? If you want to just spam your name across Gal-Net kindly make another thread instead of hijacking this one. -----------------------------
"Our nation, may she always be right, but our nation right or wrong" - Unknown |

Solusar
Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.13 14:55:00 -
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A matari I agree with, first time for everything I suppose.
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.03.13 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
You should do some research and compare the number of SF pods lost during this campaign with the total number of loyalist pods killed by anyone in QR-K85.
It just strikes me as odd that you would be grateful to us for purging your lover's alliance.
Purging?
Odd kind of purging when the capsuleers in question were repeatedly able to make use of advanced cloning and related transhumanist technologies to rejoin the fight; several, indeed, participating in the destruction of a Revelation class dreadnought flying under the flag of the CVA even after having suffered clone-death.*
I don't say this to try and pretend our losses were meaningless. I am not so foolish as to attempt such legerdemain. I simply say it to refute the notion that anything that could meaningfully be described as a 'purging' of the Star Fraction alliance went on.
The Cosmopolite
* Parts of a certain batch of microwarpdrives performed admirably there, I may say. Some people may overestimate the imperialist sentiments of their workers.
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Gaius Kador
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.13 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite Odd kind of purging when the capsuleers in question were repeatedly able to make use of advanced cloning and related transhumanist technologies to rejoin the fight...
Tell that to the families of your crewmembers, anarchist.
You were purged, and we will happily repeat the service. ----------------------------------------------
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.13 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Originally by: Rodj Blake
You should do some research and compare the number of SF pods lost during this campaign with the total number of loyalist pods killed by anyone in QR-K85.
It just strikes me as odd that you would be grateful to us for purging your lover's alliance.
Purging?
Odd kind of purging when the capsuleers in question were repeatedly able to make use of advanced cloning and related transhumanist technologies to rejoin the fight; several, indeed, participating in the destruction of a Revelation class dreadnought flying under the flag of the CVA even after having suffered clone-death.*
I don't say this to try and pretend our losses were meaningless. I am not so foolish as to attempt such legerdemain. I simply say it to refute the notion that anything that could meaningfully be described as a 'purging' of the Star Fraction alliance went on.
The Cosmopolite
* Parts of a certain batch of microwarpdrives performed admirably there, I may say. Some people may overestimate the imperialist sentiments of their workers.
Purging was not my word, I was merely using it in response 
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