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Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.08.14 04:56:07 -
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Been away from game for a little, heard about what the chodes of CODE have been up to in high sec. It seems to me that due to current game mechanics there is not a whole lot that can be done to combat them.
What can be done?
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Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
319
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Posted - 2016.08.14 07:00:06 -
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Intel tank best tank. They can't shoot what you don't fly in front of them.
As for actually fighting them, you know where they do what they do. Or you could park a bunch of hulks in a Halaima ice belt with a bunch of combat ships nearby. Symbols make very nice targets, and there's a pretty good chance they'll "have" to respond to that.
A signature :o
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Nitshe Razvedka
1102
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Posted - 2016.08.14 07:29:04 -
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-role play wng for delicate petals-
Funny you should ask Crazyphallus (not a dorathy dixer fm any of my alts). The Anti-Ganking Community lost contact with one of our better operatives, his name was Walter E. Kurtz. Recently we started receiving broken transmissions from his last known location deep within Uedrama. He may have some answers:
"I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream; that's my nightmare. Crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight razor... and surviving. "
"We must kill them. We must incinerate them. Pig after pig... cow after cow... village after village... codie after codie... "
" The horror... the horror... "
"I've seen horrors... ganks that you've seen. But you have no right to call me a murderer. You have a right to kill me. You have a right to do that... but you have no right to judge me. It's impossible for words to describe what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror... Horror has a face... and you must make a friend of horror. Horror and moral terror are your friends. If they are not, then they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies!"
"You have to have men who are moral... and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling... without passion... without judgment... without judgment! Because it's judgment that defeats us. "
Recently I sent a young Caldari Captain up river to make contact with Kurtz. His communication schedules' stopped last week.
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Lord-of-Right- Hand-Path
King Osrics' Revenge
12
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Posted - 2016.08.14 11:47:08 -
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we need a great warrior to cut the head off the snake |
Ek-Balam
King Osrics' Revenge
0
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Posted - 2016.08.14 12:00:49 -
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Nitshe Razvedka
1108
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Posted - 2016.08.14 12:43:05 -
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How to stop a Codie ganking old school style, Clint Eastwood style. Roll the holo-reel please.
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Madong Solong
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2016.08.14 14:23:52 -
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Actually it is pretty simple: create corp, declare war, take a ship and... combat them  . But why would you want to do that?
Deepest sympathy,
Solong Madong
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pelon pelonete
Viziam
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2016.08.14 18:40:33 -
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Cockchaos wrote:Been away from game for a little, heard about what the chodes of CODE have been up to in high sec. It seems to me that due to current game mechanics there is not a whole lot that can be done to combat them.
What can be done?
Well you could start by engaging them? After all they are mostly blinky and anyone can just shoot at them.
I engage them on the pipe in between Bale- Hek every time I see them at a gate, not out of despise I actually like them and
understand why they do it, for me its been not only a target of opportunity I also getting into pvp and hey they are already blinky  .
After observing them and their victims I wonder, after all the cans with endless warnings along the pipe they still auto pilot with
absolutely no tank carrying billions of isk? Baffles me, watching pods just slow boating to the gate from 15 and expect others to let them go?
So kudos to the Winnie PoOh and Eva Mavas for putting up with me and saying hi in local. Just want to let you know guys I respect you both, but just as you attack targets of opportunity I just do the same.
Have a nice day. |
Nitshe Razvedka
1110
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Posted - 2016.08.14 19:23:21 -
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Kurtz went off the reservation.
Peon Peonete is developing Stockholm Syndrome.
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pelon pelonete
Viziam
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2016.08.14 19:44:11 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Kurtz went off the reservation. Peon Peonete is developing Stockholm Syndrome.
In order to develop Stockholm syndrome I must be a victim of their actions, I am not yet.
I also don't play the white knight not have any motives besides them being targets of opportunity.
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Nitshe Razvedka
1110
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Posted - 2016.08.14 19:57:06 -
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is what it is peon
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Allise Soprano
The Conference Elite
CODE.
0
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Posted - 2016.08.14 22:33:04 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:is what it is peon
so salty XXD |
Nitshe Razvedka
1112
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Posted - 2016.08.15 00:29:59 -
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You are Jim Jones' peon. Nothing above me but clear sky.
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Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.08.15 04:14:47 -
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Killing the ships they intend to lose is not enough, the chodes of CODE are protected from real damage and asset loss by current game mechanics. Imagine if -10s could only undock from citadels and not npc stations in high sec, or if orca pilots would be flagged when ships they were carrying were used to suicide gank. The Carebare coalition would decimate CODE, destroying the stations that harbor them, and their alts. Suicide ganking would return to what it was in the past, during the good old days. Yes I was a suicide ganker for large profit at one point.
CCP change the mechanics so we can crush CODE haha |
Allise Soprano
The Conference Elite
CODE.
0
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Posted - 2016.08.15 04:18:36 -
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Cockchaos wrote:Killing the ships they intend to lose is not enough, the chodes of CODE are protected from real damage and asset loss by current game mechanics. Imagine if -10s could only undock from citadels and not npc stations in high sec, or if orca pilots would be flagged when ships they were carrying were used to suicide gank. The Carebare coalition would decimate CODE, destroying the stations that harbor them, and their alts. Suicide ganking would return to what it was in the past, during the good old days. Yes I was a suicide ganker for large profit at one point.
CCP change the mechanics so we can crush CODE haha
Just one more nerf please CCP |
Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.08.15 04:57:18 -
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Allise Soprano wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Killing the ships they intend to lose is not enough, the chodes of CODE are protected from real damage and asset loss by current game mechanics. Imagine if -10s could only undock from citadels and not npc stations in high sec, or if orca pilots would be flagged when ships they were carrying were used to suicide gank. The Carebare coalition would decimate CODE, destroying the stations that harbor them, and their alts. Suicide ganking would return to what it was in the past, during the good old days. Yes I was a suicide ganker for large profit at one point.
CCP change the mechanics so we can crush CODE haha Just one more nerf please CCP
lol its a nerf? You guys just dont want to fight for your ability to suicide gank... such chodes. Too comfortable undocking -10 characters from untouchable npc stations. Yall should have to spend some time ratting to be allowed to dock in a high sec unless given permission to dock in a citadel, its ridiculous that -10 characters can operate with impunity from npcs and players in high sec space.
It just goes to show that CODE hides behind alts and current game mechanics, yall would be crushed if players could retaliate. |
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
513
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Posted - 2016.08.15 11:54:52 -
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Cockchaos wrote:Yes I was a suicide ganker for large profit at one point. This would be a lot more convincing if you posted on the character you ganked with...
If you were active at all on it....it is already Kill-On-Sight anyway due to sec status... So not sure why you would choose to hide it... |
Nitshe Razvedka
1118
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Posted - 2016.08.15 12:57:35 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Yes I was a suicide ganker for large profit at one point. This would be a lot more convincing if you posted on the character you ganked with... If you were active at all on it....it is already Kill-On-Sight anyway due to sec status... So not sure why you would choose to hide it...
You and I are the last to talk about forum alts. I am sure he has his reasons to keep his main secret.
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
515
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Posted - 2016.08.15 12:59:44 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Yes I was a suicide ganker for large profit at one point. This would be a lot more convincing if you posted on the character you ganked with... If you were active at all on it....it is already Kill-On-Sight anyway due to sec status... So not sure why you would choose to hide it... You and I are the last to talk about forum alts. I am sure he has his reasons to keep his main secret.
While this is true...every single word he has posted contradicts that claim...
I mean some things you can say on a forum alt - because you can cite evidence elsewhere, or they are obvious....
Claiming that you yourself have done something that is counter to every word you have ever typed...that one doesn't work so well. He would be better off not making the claim if he isn't prepared to prove it. It isn't particularly relevant anyway. |
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
515
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Posted - 2016.08.15 13:04:55 -
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Also they are already using citadels - find the ones friendly to them and go kill them, they are already out there waiting for you. |
Nitshe Razvedka
1118
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Posted - 2016.08.15 13:23:58 -
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Mail me a list and I will personally finance their destruction.
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Dom Arkaral
Bite the pillow
556
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Posted - 2016.08.15 14:45:54 -
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Oh look... another "I'm going to kill CODE." Thread (already the 50th this year?)
No one succeeded, no one will. Despite all the nerfs they're still standing strong, and they're getting stronger lately.
No merc will bother shooting them, because they're free game already (although bonus isk is always fun).
And if you want to hire people to shoot every citadel they dock at, prepare to lose a leg and an arm... Because mercs don't go cheap for those... and we'll, there's about a million already :D
Can't wait to see the Minerbumping episode about your failure (although you won't be the last hahahah)
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Nitshe Razvedka
1119
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Posted - 2016.08.15 15:15:06 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Oh look... another "I'm going to kill CODE." Thread (already the 50th this year?)
No one succeeded, no one will. Despite all the nerfs they're still standing strong, and they're getting stronger lately.
No merc will bother shooting them, because they're free game already (although bonus isk is always fun).
And if you want to hire people to shoot every citadel they dock at, prepare to lose a leg and an arm... Because mercs don't go cheap for those... and we'll, there's about a million already :D
Can't wait to see the Minerbumping episode about your failure (although you won't be the last hahahah)
How is Sue Abott's Code alt doing these days Dom? Singing Falsetto after we emasculated his poco's?
Almost worth burning one of my alts to say: " +Žtre mauvaise joueureuse" on your codie TeamSpeak. But it seems you cop enough from your own team-mates. You are a delicate thing Dom, one would not want to bruise you unnecessarily.
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Sequester Risalo
Semiki Minerals and Missiles Company Ltd.
224
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Posted - 2016.08.15 15:36:35 -
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Ah. Finally a thread not punting merc services. And then such a disappointment: It's about highsec ganking.
Somebody please come up with something original. |
Dom Arkaral
Bite the pillow
556
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Posted - 2016.08.15 15:37:34 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Oh look... another "I'm going to kill CODE." Thread (already the 50th this year?)
No one succeeded, no one will. Despite all the nerfs they're still standing strong, and they're getting stronger lately.
No merc will bother shooting them, because they're free game already (although bonus isk is always fun).
And if you want to hire people to shoot every citadel they dock at, prepare to lose a leg and an arm... Because mercs don't go cheap for those... and we'll, there's about a million already :D
Can't wait to see the Minerbumping episode about your failure (although you won't be the last hahahah) How is Sue Abott's Code alt doing these days Dom? Singing Falsetto after we emasculated his poco's? Almost worth burning one of my alts to say: " +Žtre mauvaise joueureuse" on your codie TeamSpeak. But it seems you cop enough from your own team-mates. You are a delicate thing Dom, one would not want to bruise you unnecessarily.
You can keep your thoughs to yourself, especially since they always are irrelevant and don't contribute to the thread's construction.
You can also diffamate all you want, the hat doesn't fit me 
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Nitshe Razvedka
1119
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Posted - 2016.08.15 15:45:41 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Oh look... another "I'm going to kill CODE." Thread (already the 50th this year?)
No one succeeded, no one will. Despite all the nerfs they're still standing strong, and they're getting stronger lately.
No merc will bother shooting them, because they're free game already (although bonus isk is always fun).
And if you want to hire people to shoot every citadel they dock at, prepare to lose a leg and an arm... Because mercs don't go cheap for those... and we'll, there's about a million already :D
Can't wait to see the Minerbumping episode about your failure (although you won't be the last hahahah) How is Sue Abott's Code alt doing these days Dom? Singing Falsetto after we emasculated his poco's? Almost worth burning one of my alts to say: " +Žtre mauvaise joueureuse" on your codie TeamSpeak. But it seems you cop enough from your own team-mates. You are a delicate thing Dom, one would not want to bruise you unnecessarily. You can keep your thoughs to yourself, especially since they always are irrelevant and don't contribute to the thread's construction. You can also diffamate all you want, the hat doesn't fit me
Calm down codie. Breathe. Now write something coherent.
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
517
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Posted - 2016.08.15 16:07:34 -
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Sequester Risalo wrote:Ah. Finally a thread not punting merc services. And then such a disappointment: It's about highsec ganking.
Somebody please come up with something original.
Maybe a contest? Whoever brings me the most "Sequester Risalo's Frozen Corpse"s at the end of the month gets a prize? |
Dom Arkaral
Bite the pillow
556
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Posted - 2016.08.15 17:51:28 -
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Nitshe
This isn't a thread about me (yet again)
Go harass someone else.. or even better, go outside.
No f**** are given to you
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Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2016.08.15 18:41:30 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Yes I was a suicide ganker for large profit at one point. This would be a lot more convincing if you posted on the character you ganked with... If you were active at all on it....it is already Kill-On-Sight anyway due to sec status... So not sure why you would choose to hide it...
The character does not matter, this was years ago. Before ccp buffed mining vessel ehp due to constant indiscriminate harassment from gankers, I sold expensive mining modules in jita, then hunted down the buyers and destroyed the ships said modules were fitted to. It was easy billions.
I also earned tens of billions killing afk players sitting on gates in jita that auto piloted to system with pricy loot. Then ccp stealth nerfed drops and eventually implemented the dock feature to the autopilot.
Made a lot of players quit, the common frustration of those i hit was that they were unable to retaliate against me. There should be suicide ganking in EVE, ideally for profit, not to harass players because of their chosen play style. It also should be easier for targeted players to retaliate against the gankers. |
Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2016.08.15 18:47:45 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Oh look... another "I'm going to kill CODE." Thread (already the 50th this year?)
No one succeeded, no one will. Despite all the nerfs they're still standing strong, and they're getting stronger lately.
No merc will bother shooting them, because they're free game already (although bonus isk is always fun).
And if you want to hire people to shoot every citadel they dock at, prepare to lose a leg and an arm... Because mercs don't go cheap for those... and we'll, there's about a million already :D
Can't wait to see the Minerbumping episode about your failure (although you won't be the last hahahah)
You imbecile, this thread is more about how the chodes of CODE hide behind current games mechanics and alts.
If your -10 alts had to undock from friendly citadels in high sec only, you would be weakened significantly, and the carebear coalition would swiftly crush CODE. |
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
517
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Posted - 2016.08.15 18:49:08 -
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Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Yes I was a suicide ganker for large profit at one point. This would be a lot more convincing if you posted on the character you ganked with... If you were active at all on it....it is already Kill-On-Sight anyway due to sec status... So not sure why you would choose to hide it... The character does not matter, this was years ago. Before ccp buffed mining vessel ehp due to constant indiscriminate harassment from gankers, I sold expensive mining modules in jita, then hunted down the buyers and destroyed the ships said modules were fitted to. It was easy billions. I also earned tens of billions killing afk players sitting on gates in jita that auto piloted to system with pricy loot. Then ccp stealth nerfed drops and eventually implemented the dock feature to the autopilot. Made a lot of players quit, the common frustration of those i hit was that they were unable to retaliate against me. There should be suicide ganking in EVE, ideally for profit, not to harass players because of their chosen play style. It also should be easier for targeted players to retaliate against the gankers.
Well it is still done for profit - just on a much larger scale than what you did (1000x, give or take)
And I doubt you listened to the people all those years ago who said they should be able to retaliate against you did you? So why is it different now? Just because it won't impact *you* anymore? |
Dom Arkaral
Bite the pillow
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Posted - 2016.08.15 18:51:08 -
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Cockchaos wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Oh look... another "I'm going to kill CODE." Thread (already the 50th this year?)
No one succeeded, no one will. Despite all the nerfs they're still standing strong, and they're getting stronger lately.
No merc will bother shooting them, because they're free game already (although bonus isk is always fun).
And if you want to hire people to shoot every citadel they dock at, prepare to lose a leg and an arm... Because mercs don't go cheap for those... and we'll, there's about a million already :D
Can't wait to see the Minerbumping episode about your failure (although you won't be the last hahahah) You imbecile, this thread is more about how the chodes of CODE hide behind current games mechanics and alts. If your -10 alts had to undock from friendly citadels in high sec only, you would be weakened significantly, and the carebear coalition would swiftly crush CODE.
First off,
I'm far from being an imbecile (but apparently you know me better than myself)
Secondly,
I don't have a -10.0 alt
Thirdly,
Undocking from a citadel or from a station changes nothing.
At worst they can set up fortizars all over the place and gank whoever tries to bash them.
Your arguments are invalid.
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Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2016.08.15 18:54:13 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Oh look... another "I'm going to kill CODE." Thread (already the 50th this year?)
No one succeeded, no one will. Despite all the nerfs they're still standing strong, and they're getting stronger lately.
No merc will bother shooting them, because they're free game already (although bonus isk is always fun).
And if you want to hire people to shoot every citadel they dock at, prepare to lose a leg and an arm... Because mercs don't go cheap for those... and we'll, there's about a million already :D
Can't wait to see the Minerbumping episode about your failure (although you won't be the last hahahah) You imbecile, this thread is more about how the chodes of CODE hide behind current games mechanics and alts. If your -10 alts had to undock from friendly citadels in high sec only, you would be weakened significantly, and the carebear coalition would swiftly crush CODE. First off, I'm far from being an imbecile (but apparently you know me better than myself) Secondly, I don't have a -10.0 alt Thirdly, Undocking from a citadel or from a station changes nothing. At worst they can set up fortizars all over the place and gank whoever tries to bash them. Your arguments are invalid.
You know how I you are dumb? Because you are dumb hahaha
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Dom Arkaral
Bite the pillow
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Posted - 2016.08.15 18:59:39 -
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Cockchaos wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Oh look... another "I'm going to kill CODE." Thread (already the 50th this year?)
No one succeeded, no one will. Despite all the nerfs they're still standing strong, and they're getting stronger lately.
No merc will bother shooting them, because they're free game already (although bonus isk is always fun).
And if you want to hire people to shoot every citadel they dock at, prepare to lose a leg and an arm... Because mercs don't go cheap for those... and we'll, there's about a million already :D
Can't wait to see the Minerbumping episode about your failure (although you won't be the last hahahah) You imbecile, this thread is more about how the chodes of CODE hide behind current games mechanics and alts. If your -10 alts had to undock from friendly citadels in high sec only, you would be weakened significantly, and the carebear coalition would swiftly crush CODE. First off, I'm far from being an imbecile (but apparently you know me better than myself) Secondly, I don't have a -10.0 alt Thirdly, Undocking from a citadel or from a station changes nothing. At worst they can set up fortizars all over the place and gank whoever tries to bash them. Your arguments are invalid. You know how I you are dumb? Because you are dumb hahaha
If you say so
Also Inb4 ban for having that tasteless name
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Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2016.08.15 19:00:36 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Yes I was a suicide ganker for large profit at one point. This would be a lot more convincing if you posted on the character you ganked with... If you were active at all on it....it is already Kill-On-Sight anyway due to sec status... So not sure why you would choose to hide it... The character does not matter, this was years ago. Before ccp buffed mining vessel ehp due to constant indiscriminate harassment from gankers, I sold expensive mining modules in jita, then hunted down the buyers and destroyed the ships said modules were fitted to. It was easy billions. I also earned tens of billions killing afk players sitting on gates in jita that auto piloted to system with pricy loot. Then ccp stealth nerfed drops and eventually implemented the dock feature to the autopilot. Made a lot of players quit, the common frustration of those i hit was that they were unable to retaliate against me. There should be suicide ganking in EVE, ideally for profit, not to harass players because of their chosen play style. It also should be easier for targeted players to retaliate against the gankers. Well it is still done for profit - just on a much larger scale than what you did (1000x, give or take) And I doubt you listened to the people all those years ago who said they should be able to retaliate against you did you? So why is it different now? Just because it won't impact *you* anymore?
I laughed at them then, but I was targeting players with cargo many many times more valuable than their ships. CODE indiscriminately destroys ships with empty cargoholds just because they feel no consequence due to current game mechanics.
I stopped ganking because I dont want anyone quitting EVE these days. Sub numbers are on the decline. I dont want to see suicide ganking nerfed, I just want consequences for all.
Thats how EVE should be. |
Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.08.15 19:07:50 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Oh look... another "I'm going to kill CODE." Thread (already the 50th this year?)
No one succeeded, no one will. Despite all the nerfs they're still standing strong, and they're getting stronger lately.
No merc will bother shooting them, because they're free game already (although bonus isk is always fun).
And if you want to hire people to shoot every citadel they dock at, prepare to lose a leg and an arm... Because mercs don't go cheap for those... and we'll, there's about a million already :D
Can't wait to see the Minerbumping episode about your failure (although you won't be the last hahahah) You imbecile, this thread is more about how the chodes of CODE hide behind current games mechanics and alts. If your -10 alts had to undock from friendly citadels in high sec only, you would be weakened significantly, and the carebear coalition would swiftly crush CODE. First off, I'm far from being an imbecile (but apparently you know me better than myself) Secondly, I don't have a -10.0 alt Thirdly, Undocking from a citadel or from a station changes nothing. At worst they can set up fortizars all over the place and gank whoever tries to bash them. Your arguments are invalid. You know how I you are dumb? Because you are dumb hahaha If you say so Also Inb4 ban for having that tasteless name
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Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Yes I was a suicide ganker for large profit at one point. This would be a lot more convincing if you posted on the character you ganked with... If you were active at all on it....it is already Kill-On-Sight anyway due to sec status... So not sure why you would choose to hide it... The character does not matter, this was years ago. Before ccp buffed mining vessel ehp due to constant indiscriminate harassment from gankers, I sold expensive mining modules in jita, then hunted down the buyers and destroyed the ships said modules were fitted to. It was easy billions. I also earned tens of billions killing afk players sitting on gates in jita that auto piloted to system with pricy loot. Then ccp stealth nerfed drops and eventually implemented the dock feature to the autopilot. Made a lot of players quit, the common frustration of those i hit was that they were unable to retaliate against me. There should be suicide ganking in EVE, ideally for profit, not to harass players because of their chosen play style. It also should be easier for targeted players to retaliate against the gankers. Well it is still done for profit - just on a much larger scale than what you did (1000x, give or take) And I doubt you listened to the people all those years ago who said they should be able to retaliate against you did you? So why is it different now? Just because it won't impact *you* anymore? I laughed at them then, but I was targeting players with cargo many many times more valuable than their ships. CODE indiscriminately destroys ships with empty cargoholds just because they feel no consequence due to current game mechanics. I stopped ganking because I dont want anyone quitting EVE these days. Sub numbers are on the decline. I dont want to see suicide ganking nerfed, I just want consequences for all. Thats how EVE should be.
CODE. has found a way to earn tens of trillions of isk in profit, while simultaneously letting their members indiscriminately gank anything they feel like to pass the time...
I'll grant you they go a bit overboard sometimes, and they get downright creepy when they get really into Role Playing their characters...But it is all part of EVE.
And they do have consequences for ganking - they've simply found ways to compensate for them, as you did when you ganked.
As I have previously stated in this thread - they already use Citadels. We'll see if a certain someone follows through on killing any....
But in either case there is not a consequence in the game that is going to make them give up their 15+ trillion isk cash cow, short of simply making ganking impossible...
Ultimately the problem is not with the game mechanics, and not with CODE.
The problem is that while the gankers have organized and formed a solid Role-Playing organization - and figured out how to not only fund their organization and make it incredibly profitable (at least for the leadership) - they have no counterpart on the "good" side to balance them out. The anti-ganking "organization" is a joke. They are unwilling/unable to actually form a cohesive group, nor are they able to find ways to get people involved, to let them have fun, nor even to fund anything...
What EVE really needs in relation to CODE. is a charismatic leader who can form an active, *fun*, and profitable anti-CODE. What EVE needs is an anti-James 315... a 513 semaJ perhaps?
Sadly you can't just make such a player start playing EVE with an interest in doing such a thing...So we are stuck dealing with CODE. on the one side and dozens/hundreds/thousands of disorganized/scattered subgroups on the other... |
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And if this character turned up then what? organize players to camp CODE alts who will only undock in cheap ships? There is no fun in that. Players want to do more than disrupt CODE, they want to destroy their assets, due to current game mechanics it is not possible.
There is no consequence for ganking, they dont lose anymore sec status, not that it matters because they can dock/undock anywhere, use highsec gates to travel, use their alts, etc. For an organization that earns what you say they earn, their should be some risk involved for them.
I'm not saying that they don't dock in random citadels, what I'm saying is that if they had to operate out of citadels in high securtity space said citadels would burn. That is the direction EVE should be going in with the introduction of structures.
Those who harbor my enemy, are my enemy, and I will attack them as well.
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Posted - 2016.08.15 19:58:44 -
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Cockchaos wrote:And if this character turned up then what? organize players to camp CODE alts who will only undock in cheap ships? There is no fun in that. Players want to do more than disrupt CODE, they want to destroy their assets, due to current game mechanics it is not possible.
There is no consequence for ganking, they dont lose anymore sec status, not that it matters because they can dock/undock anywhere, use highsec gates to travel, use their alts, etc. For an organization that earns what you say they earn, their should be some risk involved for them.
I'm not saying that they don't dock in random citadels, what I'm saying is that if they had to operate out of citadels in high securtity space said citadels would burn. That is the direction EVE should be going in with the introduction of structures.
Those who harbor my enemy, are my enemy, and I will attack them as well.
You can shoot CODE. alt assets.
It's called wardecs.
As for consequences,
Well there's:
-ship lost
-sec status loss
-criminal timer
-anyone can shoot at you
-everyone hates you (see Nitshe)
-****** forum posts
-nerfs every once in a while
And there's many more.
There's more risk now as a ganker than there was when you supposedly ganked.
More opportunities to f. up, more opportunities to fail a gank. But they don't care, they're having fun wrecking people's dreams 
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Posted - 2016.08.15 20:04:03 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Cockchaos wrote:And if this character turned up then what? organize players to camp CODE alts who will only undock in cheap ships? There is no fun in that. Players want to do more than disrupt CODE, they want to destroy their assets, due to current game mechanics it is not possible.
There is no consequence for ganking, they dont lose anymore sec status, not that it matters because they can dock/undock anywhere, use highsec gates to travel, use their alts, etc. For an organization that earns what you say they earn, their should be some risk involved for them.
I'm not saying that they don't dock in random citadels, what I'm saying is that if they had to operate out of citadels in high securtity space said citadels would burn. That is the direction EVE should be going in with the introduction of structures.
Those who harbor my enemy, are my enemy, and I will attack them as well.
You can shoot CODE. alt assets. It's called wardecs. As for consequences, Well there's: -ship lost -sec status loss -criminal timer -anyone can shoot at you -everyone hates you (see Nitshe) -****** forum posts -nerfs every once in a while And there's many more. There's more risk now as a ganker than there was when you supposedly ganked. More opportunities to f. up, more opportunities to fail a gank. But they don't care, they're having fun wrecking people's dreams
Imbecile, vulnerable CODE assets is not in your list, that is the problem. Throw away gank ships do not count.
I agree that there has been a lot of nerfs to gankers, eventually CCP will realize that gankers will always be there as they should, what CCP needs to do is implement ways for players to fight back. All the ehp buffs is worthless, ship hitpoints are not the problem or the solution. Its all about consequence and vulnerability. |
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Posted - 2016.08.15 20:09:15 -
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Cockchaos wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Cockchaos wrote:And if this character turned up then what? organize players to camp CODE alts who will only undock in cheap ships? There is no fun in that. Players want to do more than disrupt CODE, they want to destroy their assets, due to current game mechanics it is not possible.
There is no consequence for ganking, they dont lose anymore sec status, not that it matters because they can dock/undock anywhere, use highsec gates to travel, use their alts, etc. For an organization that earns what you say they earn, their should be some risk involved for them.
I'm not saying that they don't dock in random citadels, what I'm saying is that if they had to operate out of citadels in high securtity space said citadels would burn. That is the direction EVE should be going in with the introduction of structures.
Those who harbor my enemy, are my enemy, and I will attack them as well.
You can shoot CODE. alt assets. It's called wardecs. As for consequences, Well there's: -ship lost -sec status loss -criminal timer -anyone can shoot at you -everyone hates you (see Nitshe) -****** forum posts -nerfs every once in a while And there's many more. There's more risk now as a ganker than there was when you supposedly ganked. More opportunities to f. up, more opportunities to fail a gank. But they don't care, they're having fun wrecking people's dreams Imbecile, vulnerable CODE assets is not in your list, that is the problem. Throw away gank ships do not count. I agree that there has been a lot of nerfs to gankers, eventually CCP will realize that gankers will always be there as they should, what CCP needs to do is implement ways for players to fight back. All the ehp buffs is worthless, ship hitpoints are not the problem or the solution. Its all about consequence and vulnerability.
You won't get much help by calling helpful people imbeciles lmao
You're not very resourceful for a supposedly "ex-ganker"..
The new generation is probably already laughing at your failure
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Posted - 2016.08.15 20:26:38 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Cockchaos wrote:And if this character turned up then what? organize players to camp CODE alts who will only undock in cheap ships? There is no fun in that. Players want to do more than disrupt CODE, they want to destroy their assets, due to current game mechanics it is not possible.
There is no consequence for ganking, they dont lose anymore sec status, not that it matters because they can dock/undock anywhere, use highsec gates to travel, use their alts, etc. For an organization that earns what you say they earn, their should be some risk involved for them.
I'm not saying that they don't dock in random citadels, what I'm saying is that if they had to operate out of citadels in high securtity space said citadels would burn. That is the direction EVE should be going in with the introduction of structures.
Those who harbor my enemy, are my enemy, and I will attack them as well.
You can shoot CODE. alt assets. It's called wardecs. As for consequences, Well there's: -ship lost -sec status loss -criminal timer -anyone can shoot at you -everyone hates you (see Nitshe) -****** forum posts -nerfs every once in a while And there's many more. There's more risk now as a ganker than there was when you supposedly ganked. More opportunities to f. up, more opportunities to fail a gank. But they don't care, they're having fun wrecking people's dreams Imbecile, vulnerable CODE assets is not in your list, that is the problem. Throw away gank ships do not count. I agree that there has been a lot of nerfs to gankers, eventually CCP will realize that gankers will always be there as they should, what CCP needs to do is implement ways for players to fight back. All the ehp buffs is worthless, ship hitpoints are not the problem or the solution. Its all about consequence and vulnerability. You won't get much help by calling helpful people imbeciles lmao You're not very resourceful for a supposedly "ex-ganker".. The new generation is probably already laughing at your failure
Way to avoid the topic, standard.
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Allise Soprano
The Conference Elite
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Posted - 2016.08.15 21:29:26 -
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Delicious salty tears from OP as normal |
Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.08.15 21:45:40 -
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Allise Soprano wrote:Delicious salty tears from OP as normal
Haha I'm not crying, just pointing out that yall operate with impunity due to current game mechanics. Someday things may change, and if they do, CODE will be swiftly crushed :) |
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Posted - 2016.08.15 23:01:16 -
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Cockchaos wrote:And if this character turned up then what? organize players to camp CODE alts who will only undock in cheap ships? There is no fun in that. Players want to do more than disrupt CODE, they want to destroy their assets, due to current game mechanics it is not possible.
There is no consequence for ganking, they dont lose anymore sec status, not that it matters because they can dock/undock anywhere, use highsec gates to travel, use their alts, etc. For an organization that earns what you say they earn, their should be some risk involved for them.
I'm not saying that they don't dock in random citadels, what I'm saying is that if they had to operate out of citadels in high securtity space said citadels would burn. That is the direction EVE should be going in with the introduction of structures.
Those who harbor my enemy, are my enemy, and I will attack them as well.
Hopefully CCP takes note, there are a lot of players who are losing their assets and want to take the fight to CODE, unfortunately they can't, the game mechanics do not allow it, so many simply leave the game.
You might be surprised how many vulnerable assets they actually have...
Look at Nitshe's killboard for example. At least he went out and killed CODE. assets instead of just assuming they didn't have any and making a thread about it...
They may well dock in random citadels (and would continue to do so even if your changes were implemented) - but they don't leave it to random chance in their main pipeline staging areas...They *own* citadels, even if they use alts. Also your changes would do nothing to affect their non-ganking alts/main characters...so still no "real" consequences...
Face it, you can wish all you want, but there is no way to add consequences severe enough it will stop CODE. from ganking short of 100% removing ganking from the game - and CCP is not ready to take that giant leap... |
Cockchaos
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Posted - 2016.08.15 23:14:07 -
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Lets imagine -10 characters could not dock in high sec npc stations. Citadel owners could bar them from docking they would be forced to dock into their own citadels, citadels that are openly friendly to them, or stage out of low sec. That right there would provide assets for the carebear coalition to target, and those losses would not only damage their ability to operate, but also their wallets.
Those changes would not change suicide ganking at all, players could still gank targets, however it would increase consequences and attacker vulnerability because now you must go rat your status back up, or set up a citadel to fight out of.
You are obviously bias towards CODE haha |
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Posted - 2016.08.15 23:16:37 -
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As for what 513 semaJ could do with a well-funded role-playing group of Shining White Knights in the fight against code here are some ideas (and I'm not a particularly creative or inspiring person - a good leader could probably be more creative):
- Camp Code Ganking Characters
- Interdict Code resupply alts (counter-gank)
- Steal/destroy loot from ganks
- Defend the primary ganking systems - keep Freighters alive (most of them don't get alpha'd - they die over 15-20 full seconds during which rr/ecm can come into play)
- Target known CODE. Supporters - they conveniently publish A List
- Spread propaganda to counter their propaganda
- Educate others in how to battle CODE.
- Etc....
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Posted - 2016.08.15 23:19:22 -
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Cockchaos wrote:Lets imagine -10 characters could not dock in high sec npc stations. Citadel owners could bar them from docking they would be forced to dock into their own citadels, citadels that are openly friendly to them, or stage out of low sec. That right there would provide assets for the carebear coalition to target, and those losses would not only damage their ability to operate, but also their wallets.
Those changes would not change suicide ganking at all, players could still gank targets, however it would increase consequences and attacker vulnerability because now you must go rat your status back up, or set up a citadel to fight out of.
You are obviously bias towards CODE haha
I don't know how many more times I can say this: They already own Citadels. Nobody is touching them. Certainly not *you*...
Also suicide alts don't *need* to dock - they could go back to boarding ships out of orcas/bowheads - a minor inconvenience at best.
Quite honestly I don't much care one way or another about CODE. - I kill them when I happen to see them, but I don't hate them and I couldn't care less who they gank. I'm just pointing out the flaws in your theory and not so subtly hinting that if you have the firepower...there are already good places to apply it.... |
Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.08.15 23:26:35 -
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You CODE sympathizers keep posting these lists that contain ways of only disrupting their activities. An organization that earns as much isk as you claim should be at a bit more risk. Game mechanics should allow for complete destruction of all organizations in game. Especially when it comes to CODE, considering the amount of ships they destroy, and the amount of players that leave EVE because of their actions.
I mentioned orcas earlier.
These citadels are owned by alts yes? and if we were to attack them it would change nothing, because -10s can dock anywhere after the citadels were destroyed.
The issue is -10s being able to dock anywhere, and continue to operate without ratting sec status back up or having to do anything at all before attacking more players in high sec. |
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Posted - 2016.08.15 23:28:36 -
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Cockchaos wrote:You CODE sympathizers keep posting these lists that contain ways of only disrupting their activities. An organization that earns as much isk as you claim should be at a bit more risk. Game mechanics should allow for complete destruction of all organizations in game. Especially when it comes to CODE, considering the amount of ships they destroy, and the amount of players that leave EVE because of their actions.
I mentioned orcas earlier.
These citadels are owned by alts yes? and if we were to attack them it would change nothing, because -10s can dock anywhere after the citadels were destroyed.
The issue is -10s being able to dock anywhere, and continue to operate without ratting sec status back up or having to do anything at all before attacking more players in high sec.
You said you wanted to be able to target their assets...
I tell you you can do so...right now...
You say it doesn't matter....not worth it?
This is why nobody is ever going to listen to you... |
Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2016.08.15 23:33:11 -
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Targeting alt citadels does not change the outcome, why is that so hard for you to comprehend hahaha
The problem is with current game mechanics, but like you said, if they are getting stronger, and more players are leaving EVE because of them, eventually CCP will change the mechanics so that players will be able to deal real damage to them. |
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Posted - 2016.08.15 23:34:45 -
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You think people should be able to be completely destroyed, 100%? Fine, I'm unsubscribed already anyway lets do it.
But what you are talking about won't do that. Not even for CODE.
If you want that, you need to implement Walking In Stations as a full-fledged FPS mode - so we can break into people's hangars and murder their clone's while they sleep - and steal/destroy all of their assets in space-dock. And not just -10 players - all players. That is only fair.
Are you prepared for that?
If not, then you should accept the fact that *nobody* can be "completely destroyed" in this game...not CODE., and not *you*. Games have limits, and safe places people can hide in. Deal with it. |
Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.08.15 23:38:13 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:You think people should be able to be completely destroyed, 100%? Fine, I'm unsubscribed already anyway lets do it.
But what you are talking about won't do that. Not even for CODE.
If you want that, you need to implement Walking In Stations as a full-fledged FPS mode - so we can break into people's hangars and murder their clone's while they sleep - and steal/destroy all of their assets in space-dock. And not just -10 players - all players. That is only fair.
Are you prepared for that?
If not, then you should accept the fact that *nobody* can be "completely destroyed" in this game...not CODE., and not *you*. Games have limits, and safe places people can hide in. Deal with it.
Relax buddy, its just a game hahahaha
All im asking for is -10 to not be so untouchable in high sec (not be able to dock everywhere), If i knew you were going to freak out like a teenage girl over internet spaceship video games I would not have said anything hahahaha
Are all you CODE types little girls like this or what hahaha |
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Posted - 2016.08.15 23:38:50 -
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Cockchaos wrote:Targeting alt citadels does not change the outcome, why is that so hard for you to comprehend hahaha
The problem is with current game mechanics, but like you said, if they are getting stronger, and more players are leaving EVE because of them, eventually CCP will change the mechanics so that players will be able to deal real damage to them.
And if you can't kill an alt citadel now you certainly can't kill it when all code operations rely on it...
It is a large, *expensive*, targettable asset that has a lot of their ganking materials tied up in it. Right now.
It is literally a way for you to deal some serious, noticeable damage to CODE.
But you don't care. Because you are all talk. |
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Posted - 2016.08.15 23:40:12 -
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Cockchaos wrote:Relax buddy, its just a game hahahaha
All im asking for is -10 to not be so untouchable in high sec (not be able to dock everywhere), If i knew you were going to freak out like a teenage girl over internet spaceship video games I would not have said anything hahahaha
Are all you CODE types little girls like this or what hahaha
And all I'm telling you is it wouldn't change anything...it is a bad idea.
And I'm still not a CODE. type... You are closer to being in CODE. than I am - pretty sure I've been black-listed  |
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Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2016.08.15 23:49:15 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Targeting alt citadels does not change the outcome, why is that so hard for you to comprehend hahaha
The problem is with current game mechanics, but like you said, if they are getting stronger, and more players are leaving EVE because of them, eventually CCP will change the mechanics so that players will be able to deal real damage to them. And if you can't kill an alt citadel now you certainly can't kill it when all code operations rely on it... It is a large, *expensive*, targettable asset that has a lot of their ganking materials tied up in it. Right now. It is literally a way for you to deal some serious, noticeable damage to CODE. But you don't care. Because you are all talk.
Why would I waste my time organizing that op? They would just move all their **** to the nearest npc station and continue business as usual. I'm only interested in ending business as usual you whiny little girl hahahaha
Your right, it is a bad idea... for all your boyfriends in CODE hahahaha |
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Posted - 2016.08.15 23:52:43 -
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So...all you want to do is talk.
And never do anything.
Ever.
Got it.
Enjoy your trolling - all you are good at these days obviously |
Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.08.16 00:19:48 -
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Now that you are not freaking out like a little girl, I dont even want to talk hahahaha |
Dirty Forum Alt
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Posted - 2016.08.16 00:27:55 -
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Cockchaos wrote:Now that you are not freaking out like a little girl, I dont even want to talk hahahaha
Clearly you have never seen anybody freak out before - once again proving you lied about ever being a ganker.
Also you are then admitting you started this thread purely to troll, in clear violation of forum rules? |
Allise Soprano
The Conference Elite
CODE.
2
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Posted - 2016.08.16 00:35:57 -
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TLDR = OP comes to the forums to complain. wont do anything but complain. anything that is not complaining is too much work.
did I miss anything? |
Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.08.16 00:43:27 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Now that you are not freaking out like a little girl, I dont even want to talk hahahaha Clearly you have never seen anybody freak out before - once again proving you lied about ever being a ganker. Also you are then admitting you started this thread purely to troll, in clear violation of forum rules?
Now that is a stretch hahaha, I started this thread for feedback on what can be done to combat you and your boyfriends, since it seems to me that yall are protected by current game mechanics, and now it is even more clear that is the case.
Clearly i struck a nerve because earlier you were freaking out like a teenaged girl, I know I know, the thought of the Eve community being able to retaliate against you guys is frightening, I dont blame you, if the game mechanics changed you guys would literally be decimated, and decimated quickly lol.
I have forgotten more about ganking than most of yall will ever know. The tens billions of isk I made years ago doing it was not worth the players I drove away, I regret it. Especailly now, seeing the EVE player base shrink. That is why when it is feasible to cause real damage to CODE, I will be heavily involved, like not getting laid for weeks involved, just playing EVE and doing nothing else... for at least a month straight.
So until then, I have to war game disruption Ops, maybe ill follow through maybe I wont.
But at least one thing is clear now, Its current mechanics that allow CODE flourish, and that is it. |
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Posted - 2016.08.16 00:56:03 -
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Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Now that you are not freaking out like a little girl, I dont even want to talk hahahaha Clearly you have never seen anybody freak out before - once again proving you lied about ever being a ganker. Also you are then admitting you started this thread purely to troll, in clear violation of forum rules? Now that is a stretch hahaha, I started this thread for feedback on what can be done to combat you and your boyfriends, since it seems to me that yall are protected by current game mechanics, and now it is even more clear that is the case. Clearly i struck a nerve because earlier you were freaking out like a teenaged girl, I know I know, the thought of the Eve community being able to retaliate against you guys is frightening, I dont blame you, if the game mechanics changed you guys would literally be decimated, and decimated quickly lol. I have forgotten more about ganking than most of yall will ever know. The tens billions of isk I made years ago doing it was not worth the players I drove away, I regret it. Especailly now, seeing the EVE player base shrink. That is why that when it is feasible to cause real damage to CODE, I will be heavily involved, like not getting laid for weeks involved, just playing EVE and doing nothing else... for at least a month straight. So until then, I have to war game disruption Ops, maybe ill follow through maybe I wont. But at least one thing is clear now, Its current mechanics that let CODE flourish, and that is it.
You came here for "feedback" but haven't read a word anybody wrote...Sounds like a troll thread to me...
You still think I'm a supporter of CODE. even...honestly man I tried to help you - I pointed out where CODE. is vulnerable...I gave you things you could do to hurt CODE. right now, in the REAL game...rather than waiting for CCP to magically swoop in and destroy them for you...
Even if I did perhaps get a little insulting once you made it clear you weren't interested in constructive criticism and were only here to troll...That is your own fault. And the saddest part is? I'm the closest thing to an ally you have in this entire thread buddy...think about that... I am the *only* one who even wasted my time trying to give you helpful advice/information...
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Now that you are not freaking out like a little girl, I dont even want to talk hahahaha Clearly you have never seen anybody freak out before - once again proving you lied about ever being a ganker. Also you are then admitting you started this thread purely to troll, in clear violation of forum rules? Now that is a stretch hahaha, I started this thread for feedback on what can be done to combat you and your boyfriends, since it seems to me that yall are protected by current game mechanics, and now it is even more clear that is the case. Clearly i struck a nerve because earlier you were freaking out like a teenaged girl, I know I know, the thought of the Eve community being able to retaliate against you guys is frightening, I dont blame you, if the game mechanics changed you guys would literally be decimated, and decimated quickly lol. I have forgotten more about ganking than most of yall will ever know. The tens billions of isk I made years ago doing it was not worth the players I drove away, I regret it. Especailly now, seeing the EVE player base shrink. That is why that when it is feasible to cause real damage to CODE, I will be heavily involved, like not getting laid for weeks involved, just playing EVE and doing nothing else... for at least a month straight. So until then, I have to war game disruption Ops, maybe ill follow through maybe I wont. But at least one thing is clear now, Its current mechanics that let CODE flourish, and that is it. You came here for "feedback" but haven't read a word anybody wrote...Sounds like a troll thread to me... You still think I'm a supporter of CODE. even...honestly man I tried to help you - I pointed out where CODE. is vulnerable...I gave you things you could do to hurt CODE. right now, in the REAL game...rather than waiting for CCP to magically swoop in and destroy them for you... Even if I did perhaps get a little insulting once you made it clear you weren't interested in constructive criticism and were only here to troll...That is your own fault. And the saddest part is? I'm the closest thing to an ally you have in this entire thread buddy...think about that... I am the *only* one who even wasted my time trying to give you helpful advice/information... You'll fare no better inside the game - so enjoy accomplishing nothing whatsoever.
CCP destroy them for me? uh no, thats not what needs to happen.
You want things to stay the same bud, current mechanics are not helping grow Eve, you are not part of the solution hahahaha
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Cockchaos wrote:CCP destroy them for me? uh no, thats not what needs to happen.
You want things to stay the same bud, current mechanics are not helping grow Eve, you are not part of the solution hahahaha I never claimed to be part of the solution.
I'm not part of the problem either.
Just a neutral observer who tried to give you some helpful advice.
And demanding changes that 100% cripple CODE. sounds an awful lot like asking CCP to destroy them for you to me...
And you made it pretty clear you aren't even interested in hurting them at all if CCP hasn't completely destroyed them for you already...You could be destroying *billions* of their isk in Citadels *right now* - but it isn't worth your time or effort, because CCP hasn't stepped in to take away NPC stations and gates and everything else from them. That *is* what you said. |
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fail OP is fail
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:CCP destroy them for me? uh no, thats not what needs to happen.
You want things to stay the same bud, current mechanics are not helping grow Eve, you are not part of the solution hahahaha I never claimed to be part of the solution. I'm not part of the problem either. Just a neutral observer who tried to give you some helpful advice. And demanding changes that 100% cripple CODE. sounds an awful lot like asking CCP to destroy them for you to me... And you made it pretty clear you aren't even interested in hurting them at all if CCP hasn't completely destroyed them for you already...You could be destroying *billions* of their isk in Citadels *right now* - but it isn't worth your time or efford, because CCP hasn't stepped in to take away NPC stations and gates and everything else from them. That *is* what you said.
Wait, you said earlier that the changes that i feel need to be made would change nothing, now you are saying that they would destroy CODE? Which is it? |
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Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:CCP destroy them for me? uh no, thats not what needs to happen.
You want things to stay the same bud, current mechanics are not helping grow Eve, you are not part of the solution hahahaha I never claimed to be part of the solution. I'm not part of the problem either. Just a neutral observer who tried to give you some helpful advice. And demanding changes that 100% cripple CODE. sounds an awful lot like asking CCP to destroy them for you to me... And you made it pretty clear you aren't even interested in hurting them at all if CCP hasn't completely destroyed them for you already...You could be destroying *billions* of their isk in Citadels *right now* - but it isn't worth your time or efford, because CCP hasn't stepped in to take away NPC stations and gates and everything else from them. That *is* what you said. Wait, you said earlier that the changes that i feel need to be made would change nothing, now you are saying that they would destroy CODE? Which is it?
TBH I think they would adapt and use orcas/bowheads and it wouldn't affect them much - meaning you would still refuse to act and you would come right back here to the forums to demand that CCP remove their ability to board ships from fleet hangars or from space...
But in your mind clearly it would cripple and destroy them - you've made it pretty clear that is what you are demanding that CCP do for you...and that you won't lift a single finger until then. |
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:CCP destroy them for me? uh no, thats not what needs to happen.
You want things to stay the same bud, current mechanics are not helping grow Eve, you are not part of the solution hahahaha I never claimed to be part of the solution. I'm not part of the problem either. Just a neutral observer who tried to give you some helpful advice. And demanding changes that 100% cripple CODE. sounds an awful lot like asking CCP to destroy them for you to me... And you made it pretty clear you aren't even interested in hurting them at all if CCP hasn't completely destroyed them for you already...You could be destroying *billions* of their isk in Citadels *right now* - but it isn't worth your time or efford, because CCP hasn't stepped in to take away NPC stations and gates and everything else from them. That *is* what you said. Wait, you said earlier that the changes that i feel need to be made would change nothing, now you are saying that they would destroy CODE? Which is it? TBH I think they would adapt and use orcas/bowheads and it wouldn't affect them much - meaning you would still refuse to act and you would come right back here to the forums to demand that CCP remove their ability to board ships from fleet hangars or from space... But in your mind clearly it would cripple and destroy them - you've made it pretty clear that is what you are demanding that CCP do for you...and that you won't lift a single finger until then.
I mentioned orcas earlier, every action in EVE should have consequence, its such a simple concept, but you are so bias to CODE you refuse to see that perspective. The orca pilot who dumps the ganker ship into space is just as guilty as the ganker who uses the ship and should be flagged as well, its that simple. |
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Cockchaos wrote:I mentioned orcas earlier, every action in EVE should have consequence, its such a simple concept, but you are so bias to CODE you refuse to see that perspective. The orca pilot who dumps the ganker ship into space is just as guilty as the ganker who uses the ship and should be flagged as well, its that simple.
And how do you propose they track that? Add tracking information to every ship?
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Regardless, we are back to the simple fact that you aren't going to be satisfied until CCP just removes them from the game for you - so stop pretending you want anything else and just come out and say it honestly - you want CCP to 100% remove ganking from the game for you. |
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Regardless, we are back to the simple fact that you aren't going to be satisfied until CCP just removes them from the game for you - so stop pretending you want anything else and just come out and say it honestly - you want CCP to 100% remove ganking from the game for you.
I'm a suicide ganker hahahaha and believe it is an important part of gameplay |
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Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Regardless, we are back to the simple fact that you aren't going to be satisfied until CCP just removes them from the game for you - so stop pretending you want anything else and just come out and say it honestly - you want CCP to 100% remove ganking from the game for you. I'm a suicide ganker hahahaha and believe it is an important part of gameplay
link kb or gtfo
afaik you're just another whiteknight (considering this awful troll alt of yours is 1 day old)
try harder
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Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Regardless, we are back to the simple fact that you aren't going to be satisfied until CCP just removes them from the game for you - so stop pretending you want anything else and just come out and say it honestly - you want CCP to 100% remove ganking from the game for you. I'm a suicide ganker hahahaha and believe it is an important part of gameplay
Bull S***.
edit:
#1 - You are clearly lying. You don't even know how suicide ganking works...
#2 - Even in your lies about being a suicide ganker - you claim to regret it and say it wasn't worth the cost to the game even then. Clearly you do *not* consider it a valuable part of the game, and you think CCP should remove it "for their own good".
You really are a ****ing awful liar... |
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Posted - 2016.08.16 01:24:18 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Regardless, we are back to the simple fact that you aren't going to be satisfied until CCP just removes them from the game for you - so stop pretending you want anything else and just come out and say it honestly - you want CCP to 100% remove ganking from the game for you. I'm a suicide ganker hahahaha and believe it is an important part of gameplay Bull S***.
Already said i support ganking earlier, for profit hahaha, you get so worked up.
That is a good point about an orca dumping a ship, i guess the solution is being able to attack jettisoned ships without getting a flag maybe? Yes that would work. |
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Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Regardless, we are back to the simple fact that you aren't going to be satisfied until CCP just removes them from the game for you - so stop pretending you want anything else and just come out and say it honestly - you want CCP to 100% remove ganking from the game for you. I'm a suicide ganker hahahaha and believe it is an important part of gameplay Bull S***. Already said i support ganking earlier, for profit hahaha, you get so worked up. That is a good point about an orca dumping a ship, i guess the solution is being able to attack jettisoned ships without getting a flag maybe? Yes that would work.
Read my addition above.
Although you *lied* and said you used to be a suicide ganker, you have never said you support ganking - only negative comments about it. |
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Regardless, we are back to the simple fact that you aren't going to be satisfied until CCP just removes them from the game for you - so stop pretending you want anything else and just come out and say it honestly - you want CCP to 100% remove ganking from the game for you. I'm a suicide ganker hahahaha and believe it is an important part of gameplay Bull S***. edit: #1 - You are clearly lying. You don't even know how suicide ganking works... #2 - Even in your lies about being a suicide ganker - you claim to regret it and say it wasn't worth the cost to the game even then. Clearly you do *not* consider it a valuable part of the game, and you think CCP should remove it "for their own good". You really are a ****ing awful liar...
I do regret it, it was not my only source of income, i could have made that isk in other ways that didnt involve driving people to quit because I destroyed a good majority of their wealth. That said its still a valuable part of EVE, and should never be removed, in fact it should be easier. The problem is that players often cant retaliate against their attacker. That's what needs to be fixed. Like i said earlier, the solution isn't more ehp, its player ability to get revenge.
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Cockchaos wrote:I do regret it, it was not my only source of income, i could have made that isk in other ways that didnt involve driving people to quit because I destroyed a good majority of their wealth. That said its still a valuable part of EVE, and should never be removed, in fact it should be easier. The problem is that players often cant retaliate against their attacker. That's what needs to be fixed. Like i said earlier, the solution isn't more ehp, its player ability to get revenge.
And yet when offered the opportunity to get revenge by destroying a multi-billion-isk Citadel...you say that isn't good enough, because it doesn't 100% destroy the Gankers and eradicate them from the game entirely... Make up your mind.
Also the fact still remains that CODE. as an organization ganks *for profit* - so if you support ganking for profit, you support CODE... You can't have it both ways. |
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:I do regret it, it was not my only source of income, i could have made that isk in other ways that didnt involve driving people to quit because I destroyed a good majority of their wealth. That said its still a valuable part of EVE, and should never be removed, in fact it should be easier. The problem is that players often cant retaliate against their attacker. That's what needs to be fixed. Like i said earlier, the solution isn't more ehp, its player ability to get revenge. And yet when offered the opportunity to get revenge by destroying a multi-billion-isk Citadel...you say that isn't good enough, because it doesn't 100% destroy the Gankers and eradicate them from the game entirely... Make up your mind. Also the fact still remains that CODE. as an organization ganks *for profit* - so if you support ganking for profit, you support CODE... You can't have it both ways.
Refer to post #29
I can have it both ways, just because I support suicide ganking does not mean I have to support CODE. Im not a CODE sympathizer like you bud |
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I read post #29 - you lied about how you used to gank people, and said they complained that they couldn't retaliate...
But see, against CODE. - You can't make the complaint that you can't retaliate. Because the painfully simple fact is that you *can* retaliate. They have lots of expensive destroyable assets anchored out in space for *anybody* who wants to retaliate against them.
Seriously, look at the killboard of "Nitshe Razvedka" who posted earlier in this thread. He destroyed *5 billion isk* of CODE. owned assets - and that is just his *alt*.
If people want revenge, they can take revenge. The assets are there, waiting to be destroyed.
The only excuse for not retaliating is that *you don't want to badly enough*. But you *have the option*. Which makes it *your choice* not to retaliate.
Which makes it all the more ridiculously transparent when you demand that CCP remove ganking from the game, because for all your talk you are too pathetic to even attempt any direct retaliation on your own, you want CCP to lead the charge with major mechanics changes to kill them all for you. |
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I mean look man - I don't like CODE. all that much. Their role-play is annoying, and their profit margin makes me jealous.
I sincerely hoped you wanted the retaliation you claimed to want - because I'm happy to help you get that...
But all you want is for CCP to retaliate for you and remove ganking....And well...I can't support that. Deal with it. |
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Posted - 2016.08.16 01:52:33 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:I read post #29 - you lied about how you used to gank people, and said they complained that they couldn't retaliate...
But see, against CODE. - You can't make the complaint that you can't retaliate. Because the painfully simple fact is that you *can* retaliate. They have lots of expensive destroyable assets anchored out in space for *anybody* who wants to retaliate against them.
Seriously, look at the killboard of "Nitshe Razvedka" who posted earlier in this thread. He destroyed *5 billion isk* of CODE. owned assets - and that is just his *alt*.
If people want revenge, they can take revenge. The assets are there, waiting to be destroyed.
The only excuse for not retaliating is that *you don't want to badly enough*. But you *have the option*. Which makes it *your choice* not to retaliate.
Which makes it all the more ridiculously transparent when you demand that CCP remove ganking from the game, because for all your talk you are too pathetic to even attempt any direct retaliation on your own, you want CCP to lead the charge with major mechanics changes to kill them all for you.
Well earlier you said the mechanics changes would have no effect, so why are you saying it would now? are you confused like this about day to day life as well? hahaha
How did I lie about ganking?
Thats great that he is killing there customs offices, and yes those are their assets, however, I want to dismantle CODE, we are not going to dismantle CODE by killing customs offices. All i want are some mechanics changes that you said would have no effect hahahaha |
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Posted - 2016.08.16 01:59:22 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:I mean look man - I don't like CODE. all that much. Their role-play is annoying, and their profit margin makes me jealous.
I sincerely hoped you wanted the retaliation you claimed to want - because I'm happy to help you get that...
But all you want is for CCP to retaliate for you and remove ganking....And well...I can't support that. Deal with it.
You are CODE haha
The changes I think should be made have no effect on suicide ganking, it just makes it easier for the victims to retaliate, but of course thats why you are up in arms. You see how these changes would allow the player base to destroy you and your boyfriends hahhaha |
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Posted - 2016.08.16 02:16:15 -
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Cockchaos wrote:You are CODE haha
The changes I think should be made have no effect on suicide ganking, it just makes it easier for the victims to retaliate, but of course thats why you are up in arms. You see how these changes would allow the player base to destroy you and your boyfriends hahhaha
Once again back to this "retaliation" concept...
How exaclty are you going to retaliate if they aren't allowed to own anything for you to retaliate against?
And now *you* claim the changes will have no effect? I don't think I'm the one confused here...Why are *you* demanding changes that won't affect anything *in your own opinion*? |
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Alrighty, time for me to call it.
You are either a CODE. alt or an imbecile...possibly both.
Also a lousy troll.
4/10 for persistence though
Adios o7 |
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Posted - 2016.08.16 02:23:39 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:You are CODE haha
The changes I think should be made have no effect on suicide ganking, it just makes it easier for the victims to retaliate, but of course thats why you are up in arms. You see how these changes would allow the player base to destroy you and your boyfriends hahhaha Once again back to this "retaliation" concept... How exaclty are you going to retaliate if they aren't allowed to own anything for you to retaliate against? And now *you* claim the changes will have no effect? I don't think I'm the one confused here...Why are *you* demanding changes that won't affect anything *in your own opinion*?
I'm mocking you, you are the one who is flip flopping on the issue hahaha
What are you talking about? them not owning anything, im starting to think im talking to a completely incoherent idiot who cant maintain his argument. |
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Posted - 2016.08.16 02:30:04 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Alrighty, time for me to call it.
You are either a CODE. alt or an imbecile...possibly both.
Also a lousy troll.
4/10 for persistence though
Adios o7
Lol, now you are repeating what I said to you back to me?! Hahahahaha dude, you get worked up way too easy. Dont worry eventually everyone will forget about this thread and you being a CODE alt hahaha
Lets hope CCP does the right thing, and makes these changes soon, I'm really looking forward to demolishing you and all of your boyfriends. |
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This troll thread needs to go.. Nothing has been achieved except the sperging of nonsense from op (who never was a ganker to be fair)
#gmbatphoneengaged
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Dom Arkaral wrote:This troll thread needs to go.. Nothing has been achieved except the sperging of nonsense from op (who never was a ganker to be fair)
#gmbatphoneengaged
So nothing constructive to add? |
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Dom Arkaral wrote:This troll thread needs to go.. Nothing has been achieved except the sperging of nonsense from op (who never was a ganker to be fair)
#gmbatphoneengaged
He used to say the same thing to his baby sister when he could not win an argument with reason or logic. 
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Posted - 2016.08.16 03:09:45 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:This troll thread needs to go.. Nothing has been achieved except the sperging of nonsense from op (who never was a ganker to be fair)
#gmbatphoneengaged
Eventually I'll take it to the Player Features and Ideas Discussion Forum in the hopes CCP will fast track making some changes so we can close the chapter on CODE haha |
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Cockchaos wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:This troll thread needs to go.. Nothing has been achieved except the sperging of nonsense from op (who never was a ganker to be fair)
#gmbatphoneengaged Eventually I'll take it to the Player Features and Ideas Discussion Forum in the hopes CCP will fast track making some changes so we can close the chapter on CODE haha
You can't kill an idea.
As long as there are people supporting the idea (CCP amongst them), the idea will live on.
Have fun succeding in your failures
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Dom said the same to his little sister, before trying to arm wrestle to win.
Needless to say, his sister beats him in arm wrestles.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Posted - 2016.08.16 03:19:07 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:This troll thread needs to go.. Nothing has been achieved except the sperging of nonsense from op (who never was a ganker to be fair)
#gmbatphoneengaged Eventually I'll take it to the Player Features and Ideas Discussion Forum in the hopes CCP will fast track making some changes so we can close the chapter on CODE haha You can't kill an idea. As long as there are people supporting the idea (CCP amongst them), the idea will live on. Have fun succeding in your failures
Just want to level the playing field, thats all. These changes would not kill the idea, they would just make fighting CODE feasible. Then the war between those who support CODE and those who oppose CODE can finally begin. CCP help us create some content. |
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Cockchaos wrote:CCP help us create some content.
They can start by removing faction police. |
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I'm for this if -10s cant dock at NPC stations in high sec |
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Without his masters brain the poor codie can't communicate.
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Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Now that you are not freaking out like a little girl, I dont even want to talk hahahaha Clearly you have never seen anybody freak out before - once again proving you lied about ever being a ganker. Also you are then admitting you started this thread purely to troll, in clear violation of forum rules? Now that is a stretch hahaha, I started this thread for feedback on what can be done to combat you and your boyfriends, since it seems to me that yall are protected by current game mechanics, and now it is even more clear that is the case. Clearly i struck a nerve because earlier you were freaking out like a teenaged girl, I know I know, the thought of the Eve community being able to retaliate against you guys is frightening, I dont blame you, if the game mechanics changed you guys would literally be decimated, and decimated quickly lol. I have forgotten more about ganking than most of yall will ever know. The tens billions of isk I made years ago doing it was not worth the players I drove away, I regret it. Especailly now, seeing the EVE player base shrink. That is why when it is feasible to cause real damage to CODE, I will be heavily involved, like not getting laid for weeks involved, just playing EVE and doing nothing else... for at least a month straight. So until then, I have to war game disruption Ops, maybe ill follow through maybe I wont. But at least one thing is clear now, Its current mechanics that allow CODE flourish, and that is it.
CCP has taken CODE's side and until that problem is fixed the mechanics will not change.
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Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.08.16 20:13:39 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Now that you are not freaking out like a little girl, I dont even want to talk hahahaha Clearly you have never seen anybody freak out before - once again proving you lied about ever being a ganker. Also you are then admitting you started this thread purely to troll, in clear violation of forum rules? Now that is a stretch hahaha, I started this thread for feedback on what can be done to combat you and your boyfriends, since it seems to me that yall are protected by current game mechanics, and now it is even more clear that is the case. Clearly i struck a nerve because earlier you were freaking out like a teenaged girl, I know I know, the thought of the Eve community being able to retaliate against you guys is frightening, I dont blame you, if the game mechanics changed you guys would literally be decimated, and decimated quickly lol. I have forgotten more about ganking than most of yall will ever know. The tens billions of isk I made years ago doing it was not worth the players I drove away, I regret it. Especailly now, seeing the EVE player base shrink. That is why when it is feasible to cause real damage to CODE, I will be heavily involved, like not getting laid for weeks involved, just playing EVE and doing nothing else... for at least a month straight. So until then, I have to war game disruption Ops, maybe ill follow through maybe I wont. But at least one thing is clear now, Its current mechanics that allow CODE flourish, and that is it. CCP has taken CODE's side and until that problem is fixed the mechanics will not change.
How so?
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Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony
The Wraithguard.
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Posted - 2016.08.17 05:27:12 -
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Ahhhh there you go! Was looking for a CODE related thread and as I suspected, I didn't have to look far.
Storytime.
As I were delivering a load of isotopes, I happened to see a Fenrir sitting 70km off the gate. Weird. And a bumping Mach. Using #brain I quickly added 1 and 1 together; I was however already in warp when I decided to help the poor sod out of his misery. No big deal; warped my blockade runner back to the gate in question and started counterbumping until I saw the Fenrir warp off.
It was not the machariel nor the blackbird that creeped me out though: it was the bystanders. Did none of them have a MWD? Were they all in such a hurry to go places they couldn't be arsed for a lousy minute to help a buddy out? Were they afraid interfering would get themselves ganked in the process?
The whole thing left a foul taste in my mouth. It happens because You let it happen. Ye who stand there and do nothing. Ye who forumwhine but did not lift a finger to aid a random stranger. You don't need any kind of organisation at all to beat them. No intel channels, no corporation, no nothing. Just shoot them/jam them/bump them... it's so damn easy you know?
Night night kiddoes. Storytime's over. |
Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony
The Wraithguard.
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Posted - 2016.08.17 06:04:49 -
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Addendum. I think --and I could be mistaken--, but I think CODE would love nothing more than some uncertainty; than people trying to thwart their attempts. Gives them something exciting to play with. They'd more likely than not welcome the challenge. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Second-Dawn
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Posted - 2016.08.17 06:29:31 -
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Brokk Witgenstein wrote:Ahhhh there you go! Was looking for a CODE related thread and as I suspected, I didn't have to look far.
Storytime.
As I were delivering a load of isotopes, I happened to see a Fenrir sitting 70km off the gate. Weird. And a bumping Mach. Using #brain I quickly added 1 and 1 together; I was however already in warp when I decided to help the poor sod out of his misery. No big deal; warped my blockade runner back to the gate in question and started counterbumping until I saw the Fenrir warp off.
It was not the machariel nor the blackbird that creeped me out though: it was the bystanders. Did none of them have a MWD? Were they all in such a hurry to go places they couldn't be arsed for a lousy minute to help a buddy out? Were they afraid interfering would get themselves ganked in the process?
The whole thing left a foul taste in my mouth. It happens because You let it happen. Ye who stand there and do nothing. Ye who forumwhine but did not lift a finger to aid a random stranger. You don't need any kind of organisation at all to beat them. No intel channels, no corporation, no nothing. Just shoot them/jam them/bump them... it's so damn easy you know?
Night night kiddoes. Storytime's over.
That must have been a really bad bumper, or he was told of a better target elsewhere. Some bumpers just bump freighters for practice and try to get a ransom, others to see if they can get AG to come and waste their time.
Having a blackbird there probably indicated that they were after someone else who had done a courier scam contract and that person had docked up.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2016.08.17 08:21:16 -
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Brokk Witgenstein wrote:Ahhhh there you go! Was looking for a CODE related thread and as I suspected, I didn't have to look far.
Storytime.
As I were delivering a load of isotopes, I happened to see a Fenrir sitting 70km off the gate. Weird. And a bumping Mach. Using #brain I quickly added 1 and 1 together; I was however already in warp when I decided to help the poor sod out of his misery. No big deal; warped my blockade runner back to the gate in question and started counterbumping until I saw the Fenrir warp off.
It was not the machariel nor the blackbird that creeped me out though: it was the bystanders. Did none of them have a MWD? Were they all in such a hurry to go places they couldn't be arsed for a lousy minute to help a buddy out? Were they afraid interfering would get themselves ganked in the process?
The whole thing left a foul taste in my mouth. It happens because You let it happen. Ye who stand there and do nothing. Ye who forumwhine but did not lift a finger to aid a random stranger. You don't need any kind of organisation at all to beat them. No intel channels, no corporation, no nothing. Just shoot them/jam them/bump them... it's so damn easy you know?
Night night kiddoes. Storytime's over.
Between the gankers and the people who won't do anything about it this is why I say the community is sick and or toxic (and some say apathetic) . Try recruiting for AG sometime. When I use the term "sperging" and disparage people with one eye on their killoard or their wallet at all costs - even including their own enjoyment of the game - I'm not being dramatic.
(Admittedly it's not being fair to people who truly suffer from autism the ones I known would not play Eve and don't act like most Eve players. I use the term loosely. )
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Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2016.08.17 10:15:49 -
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Brokk Witgenstein wrote:Ahhhh there you go! Was looking for a CODE related thread and as I suspected, I didn't have to look far.
Storytime.
As I were delivering a load of isotopes, I happened to see a Fenrir sitting 70km off the gate. Weird. And a bumping Mach. Using #brain I quickly added 1 and 1 together; I was however already in warp when I decided to help the poor sod out of his misery. No big deal; warped my blockade runner back to the gate in question and started counterbumping until I saw the Fenrir warp off.
It was not the machariel nor the blackbird that creeped me out though: it was the bystanders. Did none of them have a MWD? Were they all in such a hurry to go places they couldn't be arsed for a lousy minute to help a buddy out? Were they afraid interfering would get themselves ganked in the process?
The whole thing left a foul taste in my mouth. It happens because You let it happen. Ye who stand there and do nothing. Ye who forumwhine but did not lift a finger to aid a random stranger. You don't need any kind of organisation at all to beat them. No intel channels, no corporation, no nothing. Just shoot them/jam them/bump them... it's so damn easy you know?
Night night kiddoes. Storytime's over.
Disrupting CODE is a waste of time, I don't blame the player base for not doing more. If mechanics ever change so that -10 characters are not sheltered in NPC stations in high sec, the player base will put so much pressure on CODE that the amount of ganking they do will be a small fraction of what it is now, and could be in the future if they continue to grow. |
Dom Arkaral
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Posted - 2016.08.17 11:27:22 -
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Some of you folks don't seem to realize that CODE. is instrumental in making the economy roll.
No ganking = no new stuff that needs to be made = overstock (more than it already is) = the economy will crash = more players quit (more than the few that couldn't handle losing a 30m ship boo-hoo)
They're part of the economic system, and disrupting that healthy system is something CCP can't do (unless they want to kill EVE hahah). Just like living organisms, take one that's at the core and everything else goes with it... and you don't want that
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Posted - 2016.08.17 11:50:38 -
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Dracvlad wrote:That must have been a really bad bumper, or he was told of a better target elsewhere. Some bumpers just bump freighters for practice and try to get a ransom, others to see if they can get AG to come and waste their time.
Having a blackbird there probably indicated that they were after someone else who had done a courier scam contract and that person had docked up. Or Brokk is just decent at manually piloting his ship... Even a pure-bumping fit machariel needs a pretty good run-up to get a good bump in, and is pretty easy to disrupt. You just have to figure out the intercept point to put yourself between him and the freighter and deflect him.
Additionally the fact that it was a fenrir reduced the amount of time he needed to disrupt the bumper for.
Whether there was an actual gank incoming or not...well - quite possibly not, we may never know...but he still demonstrated a simple technique for disrupting a freighter-bumper - and he didn't need a fancy bumping ship to do it, he just did it in his blockade runner...
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Between the gankers and the people who won't do anything about it this is why I say the community is sick and or toxic (and some say apathetic) . Try recruiting for AG sometime. When I use the term "sperging" and disparage people with one eye on their killoard or their wallet at all costs - even including their own enjoyment of the game - I'm not being dramatic.
(Admittedly it's not being fair to people who truly suffer from autism the ones I known would not play Eve and don't act like most Eve players. I use the term loosely. ) I'm not going to get into the whole ganking issue with you aside from saying that at least for the vast majority of the EVE community it is apathy rather than any active toxicity or sickness. People just *don't care* - and it is a *game* - there isn't really any reason for most of them to care about somebody else being killed *in a game*.
If you want to fight gankers more power to you - but if you want others to join you you need to find a way to give them some motivation - because currently they just don't have it. This could be profit, fun, or whatever else you can think of - but people need a *reason* to get involved. Right now the anti-ganking movement is running purely on fear/anger/rage/outrage/hatred...and that is both limited to a pretty small segment of the EVE population and not a good motivator to get people to put themselves out on the front lines to combat ganking long-term.
As for people who actually suffer from autism - I've met some of them who *do* play EVE, and in my own limited experience they have actually made very good PvPers - and would be excellent anti-gankers *if* one got them interested in it.
Cockchaos wrote:*repeating again*
#1 - Reasons aside - both Dom Arkaral and Herzog Wolfhammer are correct - CCP is never going to implement your changes
#2 - You refuse to disrupt code in any way, and also refuse to cost them billions of isk destroying their Citadels right now...I find it very hard to believe that you would ever be willing to combat code even if CCP did make every change you recommend...You are still all talk, no action. |
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Posted - 2016.08.17 12:38:31 -
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Yay, another Rebel Commander steps up to ..........hmmmm........wait a sec.......nevermind, false alarm.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Faylee Freir
Facetious Indifference
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Posted - 2016.08.17 12:44:24 -
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Quote:Or Brokk is just decent at manually piloting his ship... Even a pure-bumping fit machariel needs a pretty good run-up to get a good bump in, and is pretty easy to disrupt. You just have to figure out the intercept point to put yourself between him and the freighter and deflect him.
Additionally the fact that it was a fenrir reduced the amount of time he needed to disrupt the bumper for.
I will help you out since you seem to be a bit ignorant. There are 2 ways to approach bumping freighters and those are speed and agility. You can center your bumping around speed and use high-grade snakes, and a proper Machariel fit up for maximum velocity and you bump them further than you would in an agility fit. With this method you will probably end up using a 10k runup to the freighter. This is probably how most bumpers fit because its just been the standard. There is a balance point in your inerta modifier that you want to try and keep, but most people think speed is king... And it is good in a lot of situations but i prefer the next setup.
Next you have agility setups which use mid-grade nomads, while the Machariel fit mostly stays the same. With this setup your Machariel literally turns on a dime while still putting out some serious speed. I use a 3-4k runup with this setup and is a ton of fun. This is more for keeping the freighter consistantly unaligned which is what prevents warping.
There are so many styles and techniques that different pilots have, bumping is really an art. Yeah you get the casual pleb that nust fits a **** stabber or mach and thinks hes a bumper... But theres a lot of skill and practice that goes into a top-tier bumper. I hate to honk my own horn again, but managing to hyperdunk all by myself while managing low-velocity bumps on a live freighter trying to get away is a thrill and a challenge.
Quote:#2 - You refuse to disrupt code in any way, and also refuse to cost them billions of isk destroying their Citadels right now...I find it very hard to believe that you would ever be willing to combat code even if CCP did make every change you recommend...You are still all talk, no action. When will people catch on that Code freighter ganking days are virtually over with the banning of Loyalanon? Yeah you see the Kusions, but his multibox ganks are shadowed by the frequency of miniluv ganks. Code have been reduced back to industrial and miner ganking and dont rely on citadels. Now ganking groups like miniluv DO uss citadels are vsrious times but the cost of one is negligable. You have to burn through 3 timers just to kill one and in that time its cheap for them to anchor a replacement. Citadels arent even a major or important asset for them so youre better off just disrupting their activities.
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Posted - 2016.08.17 13:06:22 -
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Faylee Freir wrote:Quote:Or Brokk is just decent at manually piloting his ship... Even a pure-bumping fit machariel needs a pretty good run-up to get a good bump in, and is pretty easy to disrupt. You just have to figure out the intercept point to put yourself between him and the freighter and deflect him.
Additionally the fact that it was a fenrir reduced the amount of time he needed to disrupt the bumper for. I will help you out since you seem to be a bit ignorant. There are 2 ways to approach bumping freighters and those are speed and agility. You can center your bumping around speed and use high-grade snakes, and a proper Machariel fit up for maximum velocity and you bump them further than you would in an agility fit. With this method you will probably end up using a 10k runup to the freighter. This is probably how most bumpers fit because its just been the standard. There is a balance point in your inerta modifier that you want to try and keep, but most people think speed is king... And it is good in a lot of situations but i prefer the next setup. Next you have agility setups which use mid-grade nomads, while the Machariel fit mostly stays the same. With this setup your Machariel literally turns on a dime while still putting out some serious speed. I use a 3-4k runup with this setup and is a ton of fun. This is more for keeping the freighter consistantly unaligned which is what prevents warping. There are so many styles and techniques that different pilots have, bumping is really an art. Yeah you get the casual pleb that nust fits a **** stabber or mach and thinks hes a bumper... But theres a lot of skill and practice that goes into a top-tier bumper. I hate to honk my own horn again, but managing to hyperdunk all by myself while managing low-velocity bumps on a live freighter trying to get away is a thrill and a challenge. Quote:#2 - You refuse to disrupt code in any way, and also refuse to cost them billions of isk destroying their Citadels right now...I find it very hard to believe that you would ever be willing to combat code even if CCP did make every change you recommend...You are still all talk, no action. When will people catch on that Code freighter ganking days are virtually over with the banning of Loyalanon? Yeah you see the Kusions, but his multibox ganks are shadowed by the frequency of miniluv ganks. Code have been reduced back to industrial and miner ganking and dont rely on citadels. Now ganking groups like miniluv DO use citadels at various times but the cost of one is negligable. You have to burn through 3 timers just to kill one and in that time its cheap for them to anchor a replacement. Citadels arent even a major or important asset for them so youre better off just disrupting their activities. Not sure why you of all people have this vested interest in claiming that CODE. is dead recently...
And the OP refuses to disrupt CODE. in any way, shape, or form. it isn't worth his time. So if you want someone to do that I'm afraid you'll have to do it yourself Faylee.
As for the impact of Loyalanon getting himself banned: Zkill says that CODE.'s freighter ganking has dropped from 2 trillion per month to 1 trillion per month. It had a negligible impact on the game when Loyal was playing, and it has half of a negligible impact on the game now that he is gone... So what? |
Faylee Freir
Facetious Indifference
Vendetta Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2016.08.17 13:12:53 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:Quote:Or Brokk is just decent at manually piloting his ship... Even a pure-bumping fit machariel needs a pretty good run-up to get a good bump in, and is pretty easy to disrupt. You just have to figure out the intercept point to put yourself between him and the freighter and deflect him.
Additionally the fact that it was a fenrir reduced the amount of time he needed to disrupt the bumper for. I will help you out since you seem to be a bit ignorant. There are 2 ways to approach bumping freighters and those are speed and agility. You can center your bumping around speed and use high-grade snakes, and a proper Machariel fit up for maximum velocity and you bump them further than you would in an agility fit. With this method you will probably end up using a 10k runup to the freighter. This is probably how most bumpers fit because its just been the standard. There is a balance point in your inerta modifier that you want to try and keep, but most people think speed is king... And it is good in a lot of situations but i prefer the next setup. Next you have agility setups which use mid-grade nomads, while the Machariel fit mostly stays the same. With this setup your Machariel literally turns on a dime while still putting out some serious speed. I use a 3-4k runup with this setup and is a ton of fun. This is more for keeping the freighter consistantly unaligned which is what prevents warping. There are so many styles and techniques that different pilots have, bumping is really an art. Yeah you get the casual pleb that nust fits a **** stabber or mach and thinks hes a bumper... But theres a lot of skill and practice that goes into a top-tier bumper. I hate to honk my own horn again, but managing to hyperdunk all by myself while managing low-velocity bumps on a live freighter trying to get away is a thrill and a challenge. Quote:#2 - You refuse to disrupt code in any way, and also refuse to cost them billions of isk destroying their Citadels right now...I find it very hard to believe that you would ever be willing to combat code even if CCP did make every change you recommend...You are still all talk, no action. When will people catch on that Code freighter ganking days are virtually over with the banning of Loyalanon? Yeah you see the Kusions, but his multibox ganks are shadowed by the frequency of miniluv ganks. Code have been reduced back to industrial and miner ganking and dont rely on citadels. Now ganking groups like miniluv DO use citadels at various times but the cost of one is negligable. You have to burn through 3 timers just to kill one and in that time its cheap for them to anchor a replacement. Citadels arent even a major or important asset for them so youre better off just disrupting their activities. Not sure why you of all people have this vested interest in claiming that CODE. is dead recently... And the OP refuses to disrupt CODE. in any way, shape, or form. it isn't worth his time. So if you want someone to do that I'm afraid you'll have to do it yourself Faylee. As for the impact of Loyalanon getting himself banned: Zkill says that CODE.'s freighter ganking has dropped from 2 trillion per month to 1 trillion per month. It had a negligible impact on the game when Loyal was playing, and it has half of a negligible impact on the game now that he is gone... So what?
Oh you must have me wrong. I have no issues with ganking. I think ganking is in a good place of balance, nor do i have any moral issues with it.
I suggest you look at the number of freighters being killed during Loyals reign. He was known for ganking literally everything, even if it was empty. So thats where 95% of these AG come from. The fact that you say freighter ganking values dropped 1 trillion isk after his banning and the fact that a ton of his kills were empty or negligable in value nust shows the sheer magnitude of his operation.
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Posted - 2016.08.17 13:19:13 -
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Faylee Freir wrote:Oh you must have me wrong. I have no issues with ganking. I think ganking is in a good place of balance, nor do i have any moral issues with it.
I suggest you look at the number of freighters being killed during Loyals reign. He was known for ganking literally everything, even if it was empty. So thats where 95% of these AG come from. The fact that you say freighter ganking values dropped 1 trillion isk after his banning and the fact that a ton of his kills were empty or negligable in value nust shows the sheer magnitude of his operation.
Except that baltec's red frog data clearly shows that loyal had no impact on their freighter losses - at all. If anything, hauling sensible amounts of loot under 1 billion isk got *more dangerous* after Loyal got himself banned - not less dangerous.
This would actually tend to indicate that Loyal focused primarily on freighters that had more money in them, and was *more* selective.
Clearly he had an impact - it seems he generated around 50% of the isk destroyed through freighter ganking during his brief reign in that arena.... But all available data would indicate that he was only a threat to large-scale haulers moving way too much isk per trip - his threat to empty/low-value freighters has been blown wildly out of proportion based on a couple of events where they interdicted all freighter traffic that they could, which didn't even make a noticeable ripple in the game as a whole. |
Dom Arkaral
Bite the pillow
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Posted - 2016.08.17 13:26:51 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:Oh you must have me wrong. I have no issues with ganking. I think ganking is in a good place of balance, nor do i have any moral issues with it.
I suggest you look at the number of freighters being killed during Loyals reign. He was known for ganking literally everything, even if it was empty. So thats where 95% of these AG come from. The fact that you say freighter ganking values dropped 1 trillion isk after his banning and the fact that a ton of his kills were empty or negligable in value nust shows the sheer magnitude of his operation. Except that baltec's red frog data clearly shows that loyal had no impact on their freighter losses - at all. If anything, hauling sensible amounts of loot under 1 billion isk got *more dangerous* after Loyal got himself banned - not less dangerous. This would actually tend to indicate that Loyal focused primarily on freighters that had more money in them, and was *more* selective. Clearly he had an impact - it seems he generated around 50% of the isk destroyed through freighter ganking during his brief reign in that arena.... But all available data would indicate that he was only a threat to large-scale haulers moving way too much isk per trip - his threat to empty/low-value freighters has been blown wildly out of proportion based on a couple of events where they interdicted all freighter traffic that they could, which didn't even make a noticeable ripple in the game as a whole.
Loyal had little to no impact on Red Frog, because they were using all the Intel at their disposal, and all the tools as well.
They're intelligent haulers, unlike many
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Here is the actual Data.
I don't blame you for missing it - it is buried in that threadnought.
But the Red Frog data shows that the risk to low-value freighters more than doubled after Loyalanon got himself banned - from 0.11% to 0.25%
Both negligible - because ganking is in a good place - but as close to clear proof as we could ever hope to get in this game that Loyal had no appreciable impact on risk to low-value freighters. |
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Posted - 2016.08.17 13:29:18 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Loyal had little to no impact on Red Frog, because they were using all the Intel at their disposal, and all the tools as well.
They're intelligent haulers, unlike many
Red Frog hauling strategy is to go AFK and add the cost of ganked freighters to their pricing. This is public knowledge - and was heavily pointed out by baltec and others during the previously referenced discussion.
I know it is inconvenient for people trying to hail Loyal as some sort of a hero - but he didn't affect anything for the vast majority of haulers.
Within the ganking community he still *doubled* the *value* of freighters killed with his presence - as I say he had a HUGE impact within the ganking community.
Just no significant impact to *the rest* of EVE - particularly not to low-value freighter pilots. |
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Posted - 2016.08.17 13:40:42 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:Oh you must have me wrong. I have no issues with ganking. I think ganking is in a good place of balance, nor do i have any moral issues with it.
I suggest you look at the number of freighters being killed during Loyals reign. He was known for ganking literally everything, even if it was empty. So thats where 95% of these AG come from. The fact that you say freighter ganking values dropped 1 trillion isk after his banning and the fact that a ton of his kills were empty or negligable in value nust shows the sheer magnitude of his operation. Except that baltec's red frog data clearly shows that loyal had no impact on their freighter losses - at all. If anything, hauling sensible amounts of loot under 1 billion isk got *more dangerous* after Loyal got himself banned - not less dangerous. This would actually tend to indicate that Loyal focused primarily on freighters that had more money in them, and was *more* selective. Clearly he had an impact - it seems he generated around 50% of the isk destroyed through freighter ganking during his brief reign in that arena.... But all available data would indicate that he was only a threat to large-scale haulers moving way too much isk per trip - his threat to empty/low-value freighters has been blown wildly out of proportion based on a couple of events where they interdicted all freighter traffic that they could, which didn't even make a noticeable ripple in the game as a whole.
No you have it backwards. I mean yeah Loyal wouldnt turn down a whale, but he was ganking almost everything. I also wouldnt believe Red Frog entirely since its not unlikely that they would want to save face. I think you would be part of the minority that thought that Loyal didnt have a significant impant on the number of freighters killed when compared to other ganking groups.
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Faylee Freir
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Loyal had little to no impact on Red Frog, because they were using all the Intel at their disposal, and all the tools as well.
They're intelligent haulers, unlike many Red Frog hauling strategy is to go AFK and add the cost of ganked freighters to their pricing. This is public knowledge - and was heavily pointed out by baltec and others during the previously referenced discussion. I know it is inconvenient for people trying to hail Loyal as some sort of a hero - but he didn't affect anything for the vast majority of haulers. Within the ganking community he still *doubled* the *value* of freighters killed with his presence - as I say he had a HUGE impact within the ganking community. Just no significant impact to *the rest* of EVE - particularly not to low-value freighter pilots.
AG was basically born from the ashes of Loyalanons freighter ganks which is a huge testament in and of itself. Have you ever witnessed a gank flert? Im curious.
Also, you can thank me for correcting you on bumping. With my help you can be great.
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Faylee Freir wrote:AG was basically born from the ashes of Loyalanons freighter ganks which is a huge testament in and of itself. Have you ever witnessed a gank flert? Im curious.
Also, you can thank me for correcting you on bumping. With my help you can be great.
Looking at zkill - Loyal was only actually active for around 1.5 months.....total....in his role of leading ganks against all freighters...
So yes, the stats are skewed since he was only active for such a very short period. And as I wasn't particularly active this past February, maybe I just missed it entirely
Regardless his reign was so incredibly brief it hardly counts - it didn't last long enough to become a "trend" - it was just an isolated single event that is never likely to be repeated.
I was also under the impression that anti-ganking has existed longer than 8 months...
As for bumping though - sure - if you want to hail Brokk as a paragon of epic pilotting - who defeated an EZ-Mode machariel who would have been intouchable using nothing more than a clumsy hauler...I'll go with it. Yay Brokk - nobody else could possibly match your skill o7
edit: It also appears that Loyal burned himself out and quit playing for all intents and purposes *before* he managed to get himself banned - so there is that as well. He was dead and gone even before he was actually....gone... |
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:AG was basically born from the ashes of Loyalanons freighter ganks which is a huge testament in and of itself. Have you ever witnessed a gank flert? Im curious.
Also, you can thank me for correcting you on bumping. With my help you can be great. Looking at zkill - Loyal was only actually active for around 1.5 months.....total....in his role of leading ganks against all freighters... So yes, the stats are skewed since he was only active for such a very short period. And as I wasn't particularly active this past February, maybe I just missed it entirely Regardless his reign was so incredibly brief it hardly counts - it didn't last long enough to become a "trend" - it was just an isolated single event that is never likely to be repeated. I was also under the impression that anti-ganking has existed longer than 8 months... As for bumping though - sure - if you want to hail Brokk as a paragon of epic pilotting - who defeated an EZ-Mode machariel who would have been intouchable using nothing more than a clumsy hauler...I'll go with it. Yay Brokk - nobody else could possibly match your skill o7 edit: It also appears that Loyal burned himself out and quit playing for all intents and purposes *before* he managed to get himself banned - so there is that as well. He was dead and gone even before he was actually....gone... edit #2 - actually red frog hasn't even released their stats for 2016 at all - so we don't have any statistics for the 1.5 months he was active, at all. Yet.
Loyal has been very active since the toon's creation.. he was already doing large scale freighter ganks over 18 months ago, once or twice a week, every week. Then he went on that amazingly fun rampage that lasted a couple of months, then he got banned.
Even though he's not with us anymore, his impact is set in the history of New Eden, whilst all the anti gankers have been long forgotten hehehe
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Loyal has been very active since the toon's creation.. he was already doing large scale freighter ganks over 18 months ago, once or twice a week, every week. Then he went on that amazingly fun rampage that lasted a couple of months, then he got banned.
Even though he's not with us anymore, his impact is set in the history of New Eden, whilst all the anti gankers have been long forgotten hehehe
Loyal was "active" in the sense that he ganked 1000 random things a month for most of his EVE career, yes.
Almost every single freighter he killed was in the end of January 2016 and the entire month of February 2016...He may have killed a couple before then, but no significant numbers.
Then he dropped to only 450 kills in March, and only 27 in April before he got himself banned...his lowest activity levels since he started the character.
If you exclude January/February of *this year* - Loyal would have no legacy at all - he would be just one of the more active CODE. members.
I would argue that Helicity's Hulkageddon events had *far* more impact on ganking of freighters (and hulks/other mining ships of course) than Loyal's month or so - and Loyal was merely copying a past legend for a brief moment of glory.
@ Faylee - yes, I've seen a gank fleet parked on a gate waiting for *me* specifically, in my jump freighter. The fleet was comprised of assorted Goons/CODE. members - who shockingly enough had high enough sec status they didn't get shot in the 0.5 system (at the time anyway). Fortunately for me I'm not an idiot, so there is no killmail to show for the incident.
No however, I never saw Loyal's fleets. Nor do I particularly care. |
Faylee Freir
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Posted - 2016.08.17 14:16:44 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:AG was basically born from the ashes of Loyalanons freighter ganks which is a huge testament in and of itself. Have you ever witnessed a gank flert? Im curious.
Also, you can thank me for correcting you on bumping. With my help you can be great. Looking at zkill - Loyal was only actually active for around 1.5 months.....total....in his role of leading ganks against all freighters... So yes, the stats are skewed since he was only active for such a very short period. And as I wasn't particularly active this past February, maybe I just missed it entirely Regardless his reign was so incredibly brief it hardly counts - it didn't last long enough to become a "trend" - it was just an isolated single event that is never likely to be repeated. I was also under the impression that anti-ganking has existed longer than 8 months... As for bumping though - sure - if you want to hail Brokk as a paragon of epic pilotting - who defeated an EZ-Mode machariel who should have been untouchable using nothing more than a clumsy hauler...I'll go with it. Yay Brokk - nobody else could possibly match your skill o7 edit: It also appears that Loyal burned himself out and quit playing for all intents and purposes *before* he managed to get himself banned - so there is that as well. He was dead and gone even before he was actually....gone... edit #2 - actually red frog hasn't even released their stats for 2016 at all - so we don't have any statistics for the 1.5 months he was active, at all. Yet.
Seems like your info is wrong. Come back when you get it right.
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Posted - 2016.08.17 14:17:41 -
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Faylee Freir wrote:Seems like your info is wrong. Come back when you get it right.
I'd better not see you referencing any stats from zkill then - if it is all wrong.
Vendetta has *ZERO* validated kills - per you |
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Posted - 2016.08.17 14:19:07 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Loyal has been very active since the toon's creation.. he was already doing large scale freighter ganks over 18 months ago, once or twice a week, every week. Then he went on that amazingly fun rampage that lasted a couple of months, then he got banned.
Even though he's not with us anymore, his impact is set in the history of New Eden, whilst all the anti gankers have been long forgotten hehehe Loyal was "active" in the sense that he ganked 1000 random things a month for most of his EVE career, yes. Almost every single freighter he killed was in the end of January 2016 and the entire month of February 2016...He may have killed a couple before then, but no significant numbers. Then he dropped to only 450 kills in March, and only 27 in April before he got himself banned...his lowest activity levels since he started the character. If you exclude January/February of *this year* - Loyal would have no legacy at all - he would be just one of the more active CODE. members. I would argue that Helicity's Hulkageddon events had *far* more impact on ganking of freighters (and hulks/other mining ships of course) than Loyal's month or so - and Loyal was merely copying a past legend for a brief moment of glory. @ Faylee - yes, I've seen a gank fleet parked on a gate waiting for *me* specifically, in my jump freighter. The fleet was comprised of assorted Goons/CODE. members - who shockingly enough had high enough sec status they didn't get shot in the 0.5 system (at the time anyway). Fortunately for me I'm not an idiot, so there is no killmail to show for the incident. No however, I never saw Loyal's fleets. Nor do I particularly care.
Loyal left his mark long before january/February of this year. Those two months only made sure of it.
On a side note, the fleets were a sight to see, both from inside and from outside.
I miss those 60-man velator fleets lol
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Faylee Freir
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Posted - 2016.08.17 14:20:50 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Loyal has been very active since the toon's creation.. he was already doing large scale freighter ganks over 18 months ago, once or twice a week, every week. Then he went on that amazingly fun rampage that lasted a couple of months, then he got banned.
Even though he's not with us anymore, his impact is set in the history of New Eden, whilst all the anti gankers have been long forgotten hehehe Loyal was "active" in the sense that he ganked 1000 random things a month for most of his EVE career, yes. Almost every single freighter he killed was in the end of January 2016 and the entire month of February 2016...He may have killed a couple before then, but no significant numbers. Then he dropped to only 450 kills in March, and only 27 in April before he got himself banned...his lowest activity levels since he started the character. If you exclude January/February of *this year* - Loyal would have no legacy at all - he would be just one of the more active CODE. members. I would argue that Helicity's Hulkageddon events had *far* more impact on ganking of freighters (and hulks/other mining ships of course) than Loyal's month or so - and Loyal was merely copying a past legend for a brief moment of glory. @ Faylee - yes, I've seen a gank fleet parked on a gate waiting for *me* specifically, in my jump freighter. The fleet was comprised of assorted Goons/CODE. members - who shockingly enough had high enough sec status they didn't get shot in the 0.5 system (at the time anyway). Fortunately for me I'm not an idiot, so there is no killmail to show for the incident. No however, I never saw Loyal's fleets. Nor do I particularly care. edit: And in the minds of many I suspect that Loyal will be remembered for the behaviour that got him banned from the game, more than for his in-game achievements. A truly ignoble end to someone who admittedly does appear to have been a decent leader for a time and possibly had some potential to impact the game in some way.
I can personally attest that Loyal was very active during my ganking prime from July/August till the end of the year. So youre wrong.
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Faylee Freir
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:Seems like your info is wrong. Come back when you get it right. I'd better not see you referencing any stats from zkill then - if it is all wrong. Vendetta has *ZERO* validated kills - per you
Tbis has nothing to do with Vendetta or the fact that you seem to be only focusing on 2016.
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Posted - 2016.08.17 14:25:47 -
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Faylee Freir wrote:I can personally attest that Loyal was very active during my ganking prime from July/August till the end of the year. So youre wrong.
And yet Z-Kill says he only ganked 2,045 freighters and 163 Jump Freighters in his entire 6-year EVE career - and he killed over 4,500 ships in January/February 2016 alone. Even if we assume that half of those are pods and some weren't freighters...that is still the *vast* majority of his freighter kills right there.
So while he may have been "active" at other times - he certainly wasn't killing "every freighter"....or even any significant number of freighters. |
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Posted - 2016.08.17 14:27:10 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:I can personally attest that Loyal was very active during my ganking prime from July/August till the end of the year. So youre wrong. And yet Z-Kill says he only ganked 2,045 freighters and 163 Jump Freighters in his entire 6-year EVE career - and he killed over 4,500 ships in January/February 2016 alone. Even if we assume that half of those are pods and some weren't freighters...that is still the *vast* majority of his freighter kills right there. So while he may have been "active" at other times - he certainly wasn't killing "every freighter"....or even any significant number of freighters.
Go ask AG who they hate more, Loyalanon or Warrakini. They probably wont know who Warrakini is.
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Posted - 2016.08.17 14:32:38 -
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Faylee Freir wrote:Go ask AG who they hate more, Loyalanon or Warrakini. They probably wont know who Warrakini is.
Loyal went out of his way to make a specific enemy of AG - and was banned for crossing the line in doing so....so they are hardly a fair group to ask.
And I don't know who Warrakini is either - should I? I'm afraid I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of every player who has ever played EVE.... |
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:Go ask AG who they hate more, Loyalanon or Warrakini. They probably wont know who Warrakini is. Loyal went out of his way to make a specific enemy of AG - and was banned for crossing the line in doing so....so they are hardly a fair group to ask. And I don't know who Warrakini is either - should I? I'm afraid I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of every player who has ever played EVE....
Cute. Ever heard of Goonswarm?
Anyway. Beachtime. You enjoy whatever it is that Dirty Forum Alts do.
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Posted - 2016.08.17 14:44:54 -
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To be clear - I'm only disputing your assertion that Loyal had an actual, meaningful impact on freighter traffic in the actual game.
I'm not disputing that he was well-known, or that he had a disproportionately large *psychological* impact on hauler traffic and anti-gankers....I'm just pointing out that aside from a bit over a month of *this year* he had no particular impact on actual freighter traffic at all - and he burned himself out of the game in just over a month of actually doing so.
Ganking has always been manageable and had a minimal impact on the game (outside of isolated "special events" that occur maybe once per year)...and Loyal did *not* change that.
Additionally, since you guys replied before I had added it in as an edit on my previous post, I'll move this up here:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:And in the minds of many I suspect that Loyal will be remembered for the behaviour that got him banned from the game, more than for his in-game achievements. A truly ignoble end to someone who admittedly does appear to have been a decent leader for a time and possibly had some potential to impact the game in some way.
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Posted - 2016.08.17 14:47:13 -
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Faylee Freir wrote:Cute. Ever heard of Goonswarm?
Anyway. Beachtime. You enjoy whatever it is that Dirty Forum Alts do.
I've heard of them, I've killed some of their members, I really have no particular interest in their politics or history. So if he is related to them in some meaningful way - that would by why I've never heard of him
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As a specific example: Kusion is averaging around 4 freighter kills per day, every single day.
He already has 50% of the total freighter kills amassed by Loyalanon over the course of Loyal's *6* years - even though he has only been active for around 2 years... And in 1-2 more years he will *pass* Loyal's total - 2 years faster than Loyal got there, even with his enormous spree early this year.
And maybe that is a legacy of Loyal - since he got Kusion started....
But *you yourself* say that Kusion is not having a significant impact on freighter traffic - even though he is killing them at a significantly higher average rate than Loyal did.
That is my point. |
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
As for bumping though - sure - if you want to hail Brokk as a paragon of epic pilotting - who defeated an EZ-Mode machariel who should have been untouchable using nothing more than a clumsy hauler...I'll go with it. Yay Brokk - nobody else could possibly match your skill o7
Weird. I was under the impression I either got one lucky bump off, enough for that sandcrawler to get away. Or I distracted him. Or he thought maybe more were coming- idk.
He was definitely doing a much better job at it than I was; but we did find ourselves 17km off the Fenrir when it warped off. Somehow.
The point is, there were others nearby that could have helped and were in more suitable ships to do it. Right after Drac's post I wondered "yup, perhaps that's what it must have been: training" but we'll never know, do we? ZKill does not show "wasn't-killed-mail".
The take away all from this? I'm not sure whether it was one of my bumps that stopped him or at least made him miss but I *do* take offense to "clumsy hauler". U WOT M8? I've got nano thank you very much |
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Brokk Witgenstein wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
As for bumping though - sure - if you want to hail Brokk as a paragon of epic pilotting - who defeated an EZ-Mode machariel who should have been untouchable using nothing more than a clumsy hauler...I'll go with it. Yay Brokk - nobody else could possibly match your skill o7
Weird. I was under the impression I either got one lucky bump off, enough for that sandcrawler to get away. Or I distracted him. Or he thought maybe more were coming- idk. He was definitely doing a much better job at it than I was; but we did find ourselves 17km off the Fenrir when it warped off. Somehow. The point is, there were others nearby that could have helped and were in more suitable ships to do it. Right after Drac's post I wondered "yup, perhaps that's what it must have been: training" but we'll never know, do we? ZKill does not show "wasn't-killed-mail". The take away all from this? I'm not sure whether it was one of my bumps that stopped him or at least made him miss but I *do* take offense to "clumsy hauler". U WOT M8? I've got nano thank you very much
Couldnt say as i would have had to witness it. The fact that you were counter bumping in a hauler is testament to the fact that players CAN and often times DO combat bumping effectively.
The sad thing is that if you had a proper setup Machariel with a full set of mid-grade nomads you very well could prove all of AG wrong and become real efficient at saving freighters from bumps. The problem is that most people are too lazy playing the victim card to actually do anything... So in their eyes bumping and ganking are imbalanced.
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Posted - 2016.08.17 18:16:29 -
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Faylee Freir wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:I can personally attest that Loyal was very active during my ganking prime from July/August till the end of the year. So youre wrong. And yet Z-Kill says he only ganked 2,045 freighters and 163 Jump Freighters in his entire 6-year EVE career - and he killed over 4,500 ships in January/February 2016 alone. Even if we assume that half of those are pods and some weren't freighters...that is still the *vast* majority of his freighter kills right there. So while he may have been "active" at other times - he certainly wasn't killing "every freighter"....or even any significant number of freighters. Go ask AG who they hate more, Loyalanon or Warrakini. They probably wont know who Warrakini is.
We know who they are.
And loyal will be best remembered, by me, for his chimping out when we denied him some fat loot with a cheap ship.
This is why we can't help but notice that there were five Hulkageddons spaced over a couple of years, why hyperdunking got an OK for a long time until it was not OK, and bumping has gone on forever and a prescribed fix for it has not even occurred yet, but as soon as we started popping freighter wrecks the change came in a matter of months.
BTW the best bumper IMO was Sigfried Cohenburg. He was only surpassed by Brad Neece who made short range ganks with blasters obsolete.
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:I can personally attest that Loyal was very active during my ganking prime from July/August till the end of the year. So youre wrong. And yet Z-Kill says he only ganked 2,045 freighters and 163 Jump Freighters in his entire 6-year EVE career - and he killed over 4,500 ships in January/February 2016 alone. Even if we assume that half of those are pods and some weren't freighters...that is still the *vast* majority of his freighter kills right there. So while he may have been "active" at other times - he certainly wasn't killing "every freighter"....or even any significant number of freighters. Go ask AG who they hate more, Loyalanon or Warrakini. They probably wont know who Warrakini is. We know who they are. And loyal will be best remembered, by me, for his chimping out when we denied him some fat loot with a cheap ship. This is why we can't help but notice that there were five Hulkageddons spaced over a couple of years, why hyperdunking got an OK for a long time until it was not OK, and bumping has gone on forever and a prescribed fix for it has not even occurred yet, but as soon as we started popping freighter wrecks the change came in a matter of months. BTW the best bumper IMO was Sigfried Cohenburg. He was only surpassed by Brad Neece who made short range ganks with blasters obsolete.
Thing is, wreck changes affected everyone.
Not just gankers.
not just highsec
But you guys cried so hard when it happened, 'twas gloriously funny
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Posted - 2016.08.17 18:29:33 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:I can personally attest that Loyal was very active during my ganking prime from July/August till the end of the year. So youre wrong. And yet Z-Kill says he only ganked 2,045 freighters and 163 Jump Freighters in his entire 6-year EVE career - and he killed over 4,500 ships in January/February 2016 alone. Even if we assume that half of those are pods and some weren't freighters...that is still the *vast* majority of his freighter kills right there. So while he may have been "active" at other times - he certainly wasn't killing "every freighter"....or even any significant number of freighters. Go ask AG who they hate more, Loyalanon or Warrakini. They probably wont know who Warrakini is. We know who they are. And loyal will be best remembered, by me, for his chimping out when we denied him some fat loot with a cheap ship. This is why we can't help but notice that there were five Hulkageddons spaced over a couple of years, why hyperdunking got an OK for a long time until it was not OK, and bumping has gone on forever and a prescribed fix for it has not even occurred yet, but as soon as we started popping freighter wrecks the change came in a matter of months. BTW the best bumper IMO was Sigfried Cohenburg. He was only surpassed by Brad Neece who made short range ganks with blasters obsolete.
I dont fault you for remembering Loyalanon in whatever way you want.
Im curious, elaborate on why Hyperdunking needed patching out. I had plenty of them stopped just by simply bringing one T1 logi or by simply bumping my Bowhead away.
Dont see how bumping is a problem when its easy to counter bump a freighter as we saw here in this thread. All you need to do as a mining ship is simply orbit the asteroids. Could also fit a higgs anchor rig.
The wreck ehp change was because of the inability for capital wrecks to be looted due to them being destroyed shortly after the ship popping.
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Brokk Witgenstein
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Posted - 2016.08.17 18:31:15 -
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Faylee Freir wrote:
Dont see how bumping is a problem when its easy to counter bump a freighter as we saw here in this thread. All you need to do as a mining ship is simply orbit the asteroids. Could also fit a higgs anchor rig.
It's not easy. What you saw in this thread was I wasn't even sure it worked OR the bumper screwed up. Either that or someone hand me a medal please cause I'm the real McCoy.
What I was saying, was more along the lines of "Hey! Somebody give us a hand here please?" |
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Posted - 2016.08.17 18:37:41 -
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Brokk Witgenstein wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:
Dont see how bumping is a problem when its easy to counter bump a freighter as we saw here in this thread. All you need to do as a mining ship is simply orbit the asteroids. Could also fit a higgs anchor rig.
It's not easy. What you saw in this thread was I wasn't even sure it worked OR the bumper screwed up. Either that or someone hand me a medal please cause I'm the real McCoy. What I was saying, was more along the lines of "Hey! Somebody give us a hand here please?"
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Posted - 2016.08.17 18:47:35 -
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Brokk Witgenstein wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:
Dont see how bumping is a problem when its easy to counter bump a freighter as we saw here in this thread. All you need to do as a mining ship is simply orbit the asteroids. Could also fit a higgs anchor rig.
It's not easy. What you saw in this thread was I wasn't even sure it worked OR the bumper screwed up. Either that or someone hand me a medal please cause I'm the real McCoy. What I was saying, was more along the lines of "Hey! Somebody give us a hand here please?"
Its easier than you think. If you wanna learn how ro bump i can show you some stuff.
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Faylee Freir wrote:
Its easier than you think. If you wanna learn how ro bump i can show you some stuff.
I know how to bump, I know how to manual pilot and I know how impact (mass x velocity) gets transfered. I was just in the wrong ship to make a meaningful difference. A distraction, a slight course correction were the best I could do. Thanks for the offer anyway tho.
Now, I've been thinking, the main issue with gang prevention is the narrow window of opportunity. It all happens in under 30 seconds; not enough time to even warp over there. It really has to come from the people already on grid who see it happen before their very eyes-- not a problem in a busy pipe, one would think.
Yet, the anonymous crowd does not launch drones, does not fire up their guns, the falcon flying through does not stop to jam 5-6 catalysts ... it's sad.
I've heard it said Highsec folks bring it upon themselves and I'd have to agree. The same applies to miners by the way: do you know how much DPS a flock of Procurers puts out? I can't figure out for the life of me why they don't just shoot the darn things. Nobody else is going to be there in time to save their skin but those already on grid. THEY are the ones who need to step up -- not someone else.
You can't expect a bunch of unpaid Griffins to preemptively patrol the belts, or have anti-bumpers near every gate "just in case". So you have to work with what you've got. That makes it a little harder than the theoretical "it's easy". It's only easy if you're in the right ship prepared for what's about to go down. Less so when in "whatever" ship responding to events as they transpire.
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Brokk Witgenstein wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:
Its easier than you think. If you wanna learn how ro bump i can show you some stuff.
I know how to bump, I know how to manual pilot and I know how impact (mass x velocity) gets transfered. I was just in the wrong ship to make a meaningful difference. A distraction, a slight course correction were the best I could do. Thanks for the offer anyway tho. Now, I've been thinking, the main issue with gang prevention is the narrow window of opportunity. It all happens in under 30 seconds; not enough time to even warp over there. It really has to come from the people already on grid who see it happen before their very eyes-- not a problem in a busy pipe, one would think. Yet, the anonymous crowd does not launch drones, does not fire up their guns, the falcon flying through does not stop to jam 5-6 catalysts ... it's sad. I've heard it said Highsec folks bring it upon themselves and I'd have to agree. The same applies to miners by the way: do you know how much DPS a flock of Procurers puts out? I can't figure out for the life of me why they don't just shoot the darn things. Nobody else is going to be there in time to save their skin but those already on grid. THEY are the ones who need to step up -- not someone else. You can't expect a bunch of unpaid Griffins to preemptively patrol the belts, or have anti-bumpers near every gate "just in case". So you have to work with what you've got. That makes it a little harder than the theoretical "it's easy". It's only easy if you're in the right ship prepared for what's about to go down. Less so when in "whatever" ship responding to events as they transpire.
Youre very right. Which is why these threads are the same old arguments posted by different people (or alts) that result in the same usual crowds going back and forth. Ultimately theres nothing none of us can do to persuade another if were all not willing to discuss things rationally. The issue is that most people are too lazy to help themselves, much less stay educated in mechsnics.
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In other random news, an Iteron Mark V slipped right past a CODE. ganker (even though he did manage to scan the cargo and knew what was inside) carrying 13 billion isk in assorted blueprints/loot......And another non-CODE. affiliated ganker picked up the slack and got him.
So at least one side of the conflict can work together when the others mess up and miss things.
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Faylee Freir wrote:Quote:Or Brokk is just decent at manually piloting his ship... Even a pure-bumping fit machariel needs a pretty good run-up to get a good bump in, and is pretty easy to disrupt. You just have to figure out the intercept point to put yourself between him and the freighter and deflect him.
Additionally the fact that it was a fenrir reduced the amount of time he needed to disrupt the bumper for. I will help you out since you seem to be a bit ignorant. There are 2 ways to approach bumping freighters and those are speed and agility. You can center your bumping around speed and use high-grade snakes, and a proper Machariel fit up for maximum velocity and you bump them further than you would in an agility fit. With this method you will probably end up using a 10k runup to the freighter. This is probably how most bumpers fit because its just been the standard. There is a balance point in your inerta modifier that you want to try and keep, but most people think speed is king... And it is good in a lot of situations but i prefer the next setup. Next you have agility setups which use mid-grade nomads, while the Machariel fit mostly stays the same. With this setup your Machariel literally turns on a dime while still putting out some serious speed. I use a 3-4k runup with this setup and is a ton of fun. This is more for keeping the freighter consistantly unaligned which is what prevents warping. There are so many styles and techniques that different pilots have, bumping is really an art. Yeah you get the casual pleb that nust fits a **** stabber or mach and thinks hes a bumper... But theres a lot of skill and practice that goes into a top-tier bumper. I hate to honk my own horn again, but managing to hyperdunk all by myself while managing low-velocity bumps on a live freighter trying to get away is a thrill and a challenge. Quote:#2 - You refuse to disrupt code in any way, and also refuse to cost them billions of isk destroying their Citadels right now...I find it very hard to believe that you would ever be willing to combat code even if CCP did make every change you recommend...You are still all talk, no action. When will people catch on that Code freighter ganking days are virtually over with the banning of Loyalanon? Yeah you see the Kusions, but his multibox ganks are shadowed by the frequency of miniluv ganks. Code have been reduced back to industrial and miner ganking and dont rely on citadels. Now ganking groups like miniluv DO use citadels at various times but the cost of one is negligable. You have to burn through 3 timers just to kill one and in that time its cheap for them to anchor a replacement. Citadels arent even a major or important asset for them so youre better off just disrupting their activities.
I was going to reply with some of the detail on Macherial fits, but I am missing some specific knowledge which was putting the fits to use. So I hoped for someone who actually bumped professionally would reply in the right level of detail., I have to say that was an excellent post on bumping, but then again I knew taht you were in CODE at one point...
The assessment of CODE is interesting, I was noting the fall off in activity which seems to have got worse over the last couple of weeks, I had also noted the more Miniluv focus and the move to suupport the Goon war in Delve with ganks around Palas.
I get the impression that there are a lowish number of people ganking mining ships at the moment.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Faylee Freir wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:I can personally attest that Loyal was very active during my ganking prime from July/August till the end of the year. So youre wrong. And yet Z-Kill says he only ganked 2,045 freighters and 163 Jump Freighters in his entire 6-year EVE career - and he killed over 4,500 ships in January/February 2016 alone. Even if we assume that half of those are pods and some weren't freighters...that is still the *vast* majority of his freighter kills right there. So while he may have been "active" at other times - he certainly wasn't killing "every freighter"....or even any significant number of freighters. Go ask AG who they hate more, Loyalanon or Warrakini. They probably wont know who Warrakini is.
I certainly know who warrarkini is, he was the one I watched the most, he also was doing the recent ganking for Miniluv around Palas in support of the Goon attack on Delve. I know that he was heavily involved in funding Miniluv with carrier ratting in Deklin, plus he was doing a lot of the logistics. He was a multi-boxer using the tool which I have forgotten the name of, and when use of that was banned, he had difficulty adjusting from what I heard.
Loyalanon was killing empty freighters, Red Frog put up their rates because of him. He was really very very active..
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Dracvlad wrote:Loyalanon was killing empty freighters, Red Frog put up their rates because of him. He was really very very active..
Well perhaps he is the reason red frogs losses went from 0.11% to 0.25% - but the fact remains that Kusion is ganking more freighters per day on average than Loyal did, right now - and the impact is still negligible in regards to hauling as a whole.
Also Red Frog is happy to have an excuse to raise their prices - I doubt they dropped it when Loyal got banned either |
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Yes I was a suicide ganker for large profit at one point. This would be a lot more convincing if you posted on the character you ganked with... If you were active at all on it....it is already Kill-On-Sight anyway due to sec status... So not sure why you would choose to hide it... The character does not matter, this was years ago. Before ccp buffed mining vessel ehp due to constant indiscriminate harassment from gankers, I sold expensive mining modules in jita, then hunted down the buyers and destroyed the ships said modules were fitted to. It was easy billions. I also earned tens of billions killing afk players sitting on gates in jita that auto piloted to system with pricy loot. Then ccp stealth nerfed drops and eventually implemented the dock feature to the autopilot. Made a lot of players quit, the common frustration of those i hit was that they were unable to retaliate against me. There should be suicide ganking in EVE, ideally for profit, not to harass players because of their chosen play style. It also should be easier for targeted players to retaliate against the gankers. Well it is still done for profit - just on a much larger scale than what you did (1000x, give or take) And I doubt you listened to the people all those years ago who said they should be able to retaliate against you did you? So why is it different now? Just because it won't impact *you* anymore? I laughed at them then, but I was targeting players with cargo many many times more valuable than their ships. CODE indiscriminately destroys ships with empty cargoholds just because they feel no consequence due to current game mechanics. I stopped ganking because I dont want anyone quitting EVE these days. Sub numbers are on the decline. I dont want to see suicide ganking nerfed, I just want consequences for all. Thats how EVE should be.
CODE. has found a way to earn tens of trillions of isk in profit, while simultaneously letting their members indiscriminately gank anything they feel like to pass the time...
I'll grant you they go a bit overboard sometimes, and they get downright creepy when they get really into Role Playing their characters...But it is all part of EVE.
And they do have consequences for ganking - they've simply found ways to compensate for them, as you did when you ganked.
As I have previously stated in this thread - they already use Citadels. We'll see if a certain someone follows through on killing any....
But in either case there is not a consequence in the game that is going to make them give up their 15+ trillion isk cash cow, short of simply making ganking impossible...
Ultimately the problem is not with the game mechanics, and not with CODE.
The problem is that while the gankers have organized and formed a solid Role-Playing organization - and figured out how to not only fund their organization and make it incredibly profitable (at least for the leadership) but also how to make it fun for their members - they have no counterpart on the "good" side to balance them out. The anti-ganking "organization" is a joke. They are unwilling/unable to actually form a cohesive group, nor are they able to find ways to get people involved, to let them have fun, nor even to fund anything...
What EVE really needs in relation to CODE. is a charismatic leader who can form an active, *fun*, and profitable anti-CODE. What EVE needs is an anti-James 315... a 513 semaJ perhaps?
Sadly you can't just make such a player start playing EVE with an interest in doing such a thing...So we are stuck dealing with CODE. on the one side and dozens/hundreds/thousands of disorganized/scattered subgroups on the other...[/quote] This !
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I feel like I already read the exact same reply in another post
But, good points (too bad you'll get marked as a supporter like Dirty Forum Alt, even though you're not on CODE.'s side)
All the organized AG left to have fun elsewhere in game, so all that remains is as organized as a kindergarten class lol
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Runner Chase wrote:they have no counterpart on the "good" side to balance them out
Funny, those quotes around good. Don't think there's a "good" side here-- the freighters are probably carrying PL's next Fortizar, GoonMoo, a provicende invasion fleet or replenishing Snuff's doomsday supply. Good is such a relative term eh? |
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For the record guys - his quote tags just got messed up - the only word he added to my original post there was "This!"
It is amazing how often those nested quotes break themselves on these forums... |
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:For the record guys - his quote tags just got messed up - the only word he added to my original post there was "This!"
It is amazing how often those nested quotes break themselves on these forums...
Ahh that explains it lol :Silly face:
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Well some CO2 players had a war dec on one of the Miniluv medium Citadels, me and a few lads tried to turn up to pick off their neutral logi, however we were late because for some odd reason I just could not log in for about 40 minutes, we got there too late and the only fun I had was enticing the Gankers to try to gank my Proteus which failed, funny part was that I had just told the OGB to drop links and dock so was getting the links back up, but as I was after burning away the thrashers were out of optimal and did not get through shields. Was fun though and the AG chaps appreciated it even though we failed to help the attack on the Citadel.
A lot of secondary Miniluv characters went into the corp that owned the Citadel, I have the names somewhere, they actually had a sizeable fleet, but if someone like VMG went for it, they would die in a ball of fire.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Dracvlad wrote:Well some CO2 players had a war dec on one of the Miniluv medium Citadels, me and a few lads tried to turn up to pick off their neutral logi, however we were late because for some odd reason I just could not log in for about 40 minutes, we got there too late and the only fun I had was enticing the Gankers to try to gank my Proteus which failed, funny part was that I had just told the OGB to drop links and dock so was getting the links back up, but as I was after burning away the thrashers were out of optimal and did not get through shields. Was fun though and the AG chaps appreciated it even though we failed to help the attack on the Citadel.
A lot of secondary Miniluv characters went into the corp that owned the Citadel, I have the names somewhere, they actually had a sizeable fleet, but if someone like VMG went for it, they would die in a ball of fire.
If mini luv decides to pull in 200 dudes, it'll take a lot more than just VMG to kill them.
VMG excel at what they do, but numbers win most of the time
There is no counter to that argument.
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Dom Arkaral wrote:I feel like I already read the exact same reply in another post But, good points (too bad you'll get marked as a supporter like Dirty Forum Alt, even though you're not on CODE.'s side) All the organized AG left to have fun elsewhere in game, so all that remains is as organized as a kindergarten class lol
IDK I just got back to playing a week ago ? and I already lost an ore freighter, I was slipping and lost my ship in hek . I looked at local and it became obvious I was not the only victom and something about code ? I clicked the link for the blog and read, very interesting.
I don't care about being targeted for being anti CODE, Sign me up !
I like to manufacture, but willing to play any role in the resistance .
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Well some CO2 players had a war dec on one of the Miniluv medium Citadels, me and a few lads tried to turn up to pick off their neutral logi, however we were late because for some odd reason I just could not log in for about 40 minutes, we got there too late and the only fun I had was enticing the Gankers to try to gank my Proteus which failed, funny part was that I had just told the OGB to drop links and dock so was getting the links back up, but as I was after burning away the thrashers were out of optimal and did not get through shields. Was fun though and the AG chaps appreciated it even though we failed to help the attack on the Citadel.
A lot of secondary Miniluv characters went into the corp that owned the Citadel, I have the names somewhere, they actually had a sizeable fleet, but if someone like VMG went for it, they would die in a ball of fire. If mini luv decides to pull in 200 dudes, it'll take a lot more than just VMG to kill them. VMG excel at what they do, but numbers win most of the time There is no counter to that argument.
True, it would be like a certain Hard Knocks Citizen event that cost VMG a few losses a couple of months back...
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Dracvlad wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Well some CO2 players had a war dec on one of the Miniluv medium Citadels, me and a few lads tried to turn up to pick off their neutral logi, however we were late because for some odd reason I just could not log in for about 40 minutes, we got there too late and the only fun I had was enticing the Gankers to try to gank my Proteus which failed, funny part was that I had just told the OGB to drop links and dock so was getting the links back up, but as I was after burning away the thrashers were out of optimal and did not get through shields. Was fun though and the AG chaps appreciated it even though we failed to help the attack on the Citadel.
A lot of secondary Miniluv characters went into the corp that owned the Citadel, I have the names somewhere, they actually had a sizeable fleet, but if someone like VMG went for it, they would die in a ball of fire. If mini luv decides to pull in 200 dudes, it'll take a lot more than just VMG to kill them. VMG excel at what they do, but numbers win most of the time There is no counter to that argument. True, it would be like a certain Hard Knocks Citizen event that cost VMG a few losses a couple of months back...
Or the massacre 3 months back? CD and idk (90 some dudes) who else went up against 200 guys in t1 ships and nados
Isk war was lost that day lol
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Runner Chase wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:I feel like I already read the exact same reply in another post But, good points (too bad you'll get marked as a supporter like Dirty Forum Alt, even though you're not on CODE.'s side) All the organized AG left to have fun elsewhere in game, so all that remains is as organized as a kindergarten class lol IDK I just got back to playing a week ago ? and I already lost an ore freighter, I was slipping and lost my ship in hek . I looked at local and it became obvious I was not the only victom and something about code ? I clicked the link for the blog and read, very interesting. I don't care about being targeted for being anti CODE, Sign me up ! I like to manufacture, but willing to play any role in the resistance .
Ironically he meant the OP would label you as being *part* of CODE. - not that anyone would label you as anti-CODE.
But the OP seems to have given up - or at least fallen asleep.
Dracvlad might be able to get you in touch with whatever passes for the organized anti-ganking people these days - I can't, sadly - but good luck o7 |
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Runner Chase wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:I feel like I already read the exact same reply in another post But, good points (too bad you'll get marked as a supporter like Dirty Forum Alt, even though you're not on CODE.'s side) All the organized AG left to have fun elsewhere in game, so all that remains is as organized as a kindergarten class lol IDK I just got back to playing a week ago ? and I already lost an ore freighter, I was slipping and lost my ship in hek . I looked at local and it became obvious I was not the only victom and something about code ? I clicked the link for the blog and read, very interesting. I don't care about being targeted for being anti CODE, Sign me up ! I like to manufacture, but willing to play any role in the resistance . Ironically he meant the OP would label you as being *part* of CODE. - not that anyone would label you as anti-CODE. But the OP seems to have given up - or at least fallen asleep. Dracvlad might be able to get you in touch with whatever passes for the organized anti-ganking people these days - I can't, sadly - but good luck o7
Morning CODE Forum Alt, have not given up, there just isn't much to talk about.
Current game mechanics protect you and your boyfriends from the EVE community. I don't want ganking nerfed, I don't want bumping nerfted, I dont want CODE nerfed. The changes I would like to see do not prevent CODE from operating how they are now. I want gankers to have to go do some ratting before they can conduct business as usual, I want gankers to not be sheltered in high sec by NPC stations, not full docking restrictions, just partial. In short, I want there to be some consequences for criminal activity in high sec, consequences that put criminals at risk of losing assets other than throw away gank ships.
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I dont officially speak for VMG but i can say that i personally believe that if you blow up a miniluv alt citadel it will have negligable effect since they are easily replaced.
I also wanted to talk about the wreck ehp change and others complaining about the "buff to ganking". Popping freighter wrecks was 100% uncounterable and could be done in a cheap Thrasher. You can ask miniluv how 1 person dedicated themselves to popping a ton of miniluv gank wrecks for almost and month and almost bankrupted them. Buffing wreck ehp not only benefitted gankers, but was good for everyone that was interested in looting wrecks. Not only was it beneficial to everyone but its good and proper balance to a mechanic that had no direct counter.
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Faylee Freir wrote:I dont officially speak for VMG but i can say that i personally believe that if you blow up a miniluv alt citadel it will have negligable effect since they are easily replaced.
I also wanted to talk about the wreck ehp change and others complaining about the "buff to ganking". Popping freighter wrecks was 100% uncounterable and could be done in a cheap Thrasher. You can ask miniluv how 1 person dedicated themselves to popping a ton of miniluv gank wrecks for almost and month and almost bankrupted them. Buffing wreck ehp not only benefitted gankers, but was good for everyone that was interested in looting wrecks. Not only was it beneficial to everyone but its good and proper balance to a mechanic that had no direct counter.
Destroying alt citadels will have no effect, not because they are easily replaced but because there is no reason to replace them, just move all the dog **** to the nearest NPC station, and conduct business as usual. The citadel becomes an asset when one must rat sec status back up to access NPC stations in high sec.
I agree with you regarding the wrecks, like I have said before, ganking should be easier, the ehp buffs to ships in the past were a mistake.
The problem with ganking is the gankers are often untouchable, there is no consequences for ganking at the moment. The only worry of the ganker is disruption ops. That is what needs to change. |
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Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Runner Chase wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:I feel like I already read the exact same reply in another post But, good points (too bad you'll get marked as a supporter like Dirty Forum Alt, even though you're not on CODE.'s side) All the organized AG left to have fun elsewhere in game, so all that remains is as organized as a kindergarten class lol IDK I just got back to playing a week ago ? and I already lost an ore freighter, I was slipping and lost my ship in hek . I looked at local and it became obvious I was not the only victom and something about code ? I clicked the link for the blog and read, very interesting. I don't care about being targeted for being anti CODE, Sign me up ! I like to manufacture, but willing to play any role in the resistance . Ironically he meant the OP would label you as being *part* of CODE. - not that anyone would label you as anti-CODE. But the OP seems to have given up - or at least fallen asleep. Dracvlad might be able to get you in touch with whatever passes for the organized anti-ganking people these days - I can't, sadly - but good luck o7 Morning CODE Forum Alt, have not given up, there just isn't much to talk about. Current game mechanics protect you and your boyfriends from the EVE community. I don't want ganking nerfed, I don't want bumping nerfted, I dont want CODE nerfed. The changes I would like to see do not prevent CODE from operating how they are now. I want gankers to have to go do some ratting before they can conduct business as usual, I want gankers to not be sheltered in high sec by NPC stations, not full docking restrictions, just partial. In short, I want there to be some consequences for criminal activity in high sec, consequences that put criminals at risk of losing assets other than throw away gank ships. Of course you gankers dont want to fight for your ability to gank
Ganking happened before CCP allowed us to buy tags. While your suggestions would make the activity more of a pain, ganking is an activity thats 100% based on RNG, requires abnormal amounts of dedication and preparation, and relies on players being dumb and/or greedy... So why punish us further?
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Faylee Freir wrote:I dont officially speak for VMG but i can say that i personally believe that if you blow up a miniluv alt citadel it will have negligable effect since they are easily replaced.
I also wanted to talk about the wreck ehp change and others complaining about the "buff to ganking". Popping freighter wrecks was 100% uncounterable and could be done in a cheap Thrasher. You can ask miniluv how 1 person dedicated themselves to popping a ton of miniluv gank wrecks for almost and month and almost bankrupted them. Buffing wreck ehp not only benefitted gankers, but was good for everyone that was interested in looting wrecks. Not only was it beneficial to everyone but its good and proper balance to a mechanic that had no direct counter.
Yes it was something that could be counted, and the gankers did a few times, it is however not easily counted. The real issue of this was the lack of understanding by CCP on the emergent game play occurring within the AG group, some of the players were actually starting to create gank characters. Who knows where this would have developed if CCP had given this a bit more time to develop.
So what I find is the sudden action by Endie in pushing for it as AG starts ganking freighter wrecks, then CCP realising what they had done and then buffing the EHP of freighters to balance off against it and then gankers going on about the massive nerf to ganking by this balance. If CCP had looked at the situation and understood what was going on or even talked to someone from AG they might have actually thought about it and scaled it in, but no.
And I would not be surprised if the person who did this had not even mentioned the fact that Ag was starting to gank freighter wrecks.
The issue most of all was that AG is a bit part militia with people mainly spending bits of SP when they can spare it on toons that they only just managed to push themselves to use for ganking wrecks. It killed it stone cold dead. Now of course I will get all the normal stuff about step up your game fail AG and the like, but the thing was only a very few AG players were doing it and bang. Do the gankers have to win like that. And the answer is yes...
So yes I agree with the logic of the change, but how it happened stinks...
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2016.08.17 21:28:17 -
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Sure ratting is a pain, but it would force gankers to undock in something other than a throw away ship so the players who's assets were destroyed could have a chance at some revenge. It's not a punishment, it's only fair. When I was a ganker I spent time ratting, that's how it should be. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7953
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Posted - 2016.08.17 21:34:35 -
[162] - Quote
Dracvlad wrote:...or even talked to someone from AG...
There's a wall between CCP and AG, and a bridge between the easy kill community and CCP. That's why the kill-farming ruse called "RvB" was able to go on so long, as just one example.
I still think there are factions in the organization at odds with each other. So there's hope. But I do miss the days when CODE. "always" won in space and we had a good time giving it try. Knowing they will win in the office removes motivation to try - and I'll bet the gankers themselves will become disenchanted when they realize all that HTFU cred they felt earlier was a lie.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
549
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Posted - 2016.08.17 22:13:05 -
[163] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:There's a wall between CCP and AG, and a bridge between the easy kill community and CCP. That's why the kill-farming ruse called "RvB" was able to go on so long, as just one example.
I dunno how to break this to you....but RvB is still around - so a bit premature to be talking about them purely in the past tense.
As for the "bridge" between CCP and the player who kill people (in all their forms) - that is the style of play that most of the CCP devs enjoyed back when they were allowed to openly play EVE *and* be a dev. It isn't some big conspiracy - they are just naturally inclined to favour their own personally preferred play-style within the game...
The bright side for you is there are fewer of those devs left, and new ones coming in who aren't as steeped in that side of the game - there may be hope for you yet on that front - time will tell. |
Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2016.08.17 22:37:56 -
[164] - Quote
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:There's a wall between CCP and AG, and a bridge between the easy kill community and CCP. That's why the kill-farming ruse called "RvB" was able to go on so long, as just one example. I dunno how to break this to you....but RvB is still around - so a bit premature to be talking about them purely in the past tense. As for the "bridge" between CCP and the players who kill people (in all their forms) - that is the style of play that most of the CCP devs enjoyed back when they were allowed to openly play EVE *and* be a dev. It isn't some big conspiracy - they are just naturally inclined to favour their own personally preferred play-style within the game... The bright side for you is there are fewer of those devs left, and new ones coming in who aren't as steeped in that side of the game - there may be hope for you yet on that front - time will tell. edit: Oh and OP - I'm *still* not CODE. - and you are *still* an idiot whose suggestion is doomed to be ignored
Yes I was born with more balls than brains, and I expect my suggestions to be ignored, however, you have to admit that these changes do no harm to suicide ganking. You must also admit that these changes would create some content as well, and give players the ability to go after those that suicide gank their assets. If you say otherwise, you are an idiot. |
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
549
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Posted - 2016.08.17 23:00:02 -
[165] - Quote
Cockchaos wrote:Yes I was born with more balls than brains, and I expect my suggestions to be ignored, however, you have to admit that these changes do no harm to suicide ganking. You must also admit that these changes would create some content and give players the ability to deal damage to those who suicide ganked their assets. If you say otherwise, you are an idiot.
If it didn't affect them at all it would be pointless of you to bother requesting it....
Also as I keep pointing out to you - you can *already* deal damage to them....you simply refuse to.
To be honest from my perspective it would be worth seeing CCP implement your silly changes *just* so I could mock you when you came up with new excuses why you were unwilling to do anything.... But CCP still won't do so, so it is a moot point. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7954
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Posted - 2016.08.17 23:35:29 -
[166] - Quote
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:There's a wall between CCP and AG, and a bridge between the easy kill community and CCP. That's why the kill-farming ruse called "RvB" was able to go on so long, as just one example. I dunno how to break this to you....but RvB is still around - so a bit premature to be talking about them purely in the past tense. As for the "bridge" between CCP and the players who kill people (in all their forms) - that is the style of play that most of the CCP devs enjoyed back when they were allowed to openly play EVE *and* be a dev. It isn't some big conspiracy - they are just naturally inclined to favour their own personally preferred play-style within the game... The bright side for you is there are fewer of those devs left, and new ones coming in who aren't as steeped in that side of the game - there may be hope for you yet on that front - time will tell. edit: Oh and OP - I'm *still* not CODE. - and you are *still* an idiot whose suggestion is doomed to be ignored
You protest too much.
As for developers playing the game their way and bias to those ends, well I think everybody can admit the game was better when the developers actually played it at all.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
551
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Posted - 2016.08.17 23:39:30 -
[167] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:You protest too much.
As for developers playing the game their way and bias to those ends, well I think everybody can admit the game was better when the developers actually played it at all.
It had its issues, but yes - it was.
I think things would have gone a different way had they made an example of the devs who cheated and put in safeguards to prevent future occurrences...but had *not* banned devs from actively playing. |
Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2016.08.17 23:56:43 -
[168] - Quote
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Yes I was born with more balls than brains, and I expect my suggestions to be ignored, however, you have to admit that these changes do no harm to suicide ganking. You must also admit that these changes would create some content and give players the ability to deal damage to those who suicide ganked their assets. If you say otherwise, you are an idiot. If it didn't affect them at all it would be pointless of you to bother requesting it.... Also as I keep pointing out to you - you can *already* deal damage to them....you simply refuse to. To be honest from my perspective it would be worth seeing CCP implement your silly changes *just* so I could mock you when you came up with new excuses why you were unwilling to do anything.... But CCP still won't do so, so it is a moot point.
Why are you so against putting mechanics in place that don't change ones ability to suicide gank, and also gives the EVE community the means to retaliate against those who suicide ganked them??? Oh wait, thats right, you are a CODE alt hahahaha
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
551
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Posted - 2016.08.17 23:58:47 -
[169] - Quote
Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Yes I was born with more balls than brains, and I expect my suggestions to be ignored, however, you have to admit that these changes do no harm to suicide ganking. You must also admit that these changes would create some content and give players the ability to deal damage to those who suicide ganked their assets. If you say otherwise, you are an idiot. If it didn't affect them at all it would be pointless of you to bother requesting it.... Also as I keep pointing out to you - you can *already* deal damage to them....you simply refuse to. To be honest from my perspective it would be worth seeing CCP implement your silly changes *just* so I could mock you when you came up with new excuses why you were unwilling to do anything.... But CCP still won't do so, so it is a moot point. Why are you so against putting mechanics in place that don't change ones ability to suicide gank, and also gives the EVE community the means to retaliate against those who suicide ganked them??? Oh wait, thats right, you are a CODE alt hahahaha
I honestly don't think you can read...
I bolded/underlined part of my post that you *just quoted* - see if you can find 2 whole brain cells to rub together and *try* to read it... |
Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2016.08.18 00:00:18 -
[170] - Quote
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Yes I was born with more balls than brains, and I expect my suggestions to be ignored, however, you have to admit that these changes do no harm to suicide ganking. You must also admit that these changes would create some content and give players the ability to deal damage to those who suicide ganked their assets. If you say otherwise, you are an idiot. If it didn't affect them at all it would be pointless of you to bother requesting it.... Also as I keep pointing out to you - you can *already* deal damage to them....you simply refuse to. To be honest from my perspective it would be worth seeing CCP implement your silly changes *just* so I could mock you when you came up with new excuses why you were unwilling to do anything.... But CCP still won't do so, so it is a moot point. Why are you so against putting mechanics in place that don't change ones ability to suicide gank, and also gives the EVE community the means to retaliate against those who suicide ganked them??? Oh wait, thats right, you are a CODE alt hahahaha I honestly don't think you can read... I bolded/underlined part of my post that you *just quoted* - see if you can find 2 whole brain cells to rub together and *try* to read it...
You don't actually mean that though, that's why I ignored it. You and I both know that you and your boyfriends would be crushed if these changes were made.
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Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2016.08.18 00:01:28 -
[171] - Quote
It's so funny to me how worked up you get about this, we both know why you do though hahahahaha
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
551
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Posted - 2016.08.18 00:06:51 -
[172] - Quote
In point of fact I have remained calm throughout this entire thread...
But as we have illustrated you are an idiot who can't read, so I suppose I understand your confusion. |
Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2016.08.18 00:09:46 -
[173] - Quote
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:In point of fact I have remained calm throughout this entire thread...
But as we have illustrated you are an idiot who can't read, so I suppose I understand your confusion.
Debatable hahahaha
Yes, blessed with more balls than brains, you are good at pointing out the obvious, terrible at hiding the fact that you are a CODE alt hahahaha
What blows your cover is that you don't want the player base to be able to retaliate against gankers. |
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
551
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Posted - 2016.08.18 00:15:47 -
[174] - Quote
Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:In point of fact I have remained calm throughout this entire thread...
But as we have illustrated you are an idiot who can't read, so I suppose I understand your confusion. Debatable hahahaha Yes, blessed with more balls than brains, you are good at pointing out the obvious, terrible at hiding the fact that you are a CODE alt hahahaha What blows your cover is that you don't want the player base to be able to retaliate against gankers.
Well, I wasn't aware I needed to hide something that is self evidently not true...
Should I try harder to hide the fact that I am also the owner of CCP? Or the fact that every CEO of every corporation in EVE is actually *my alt*? Perhaps I should be trying to hide the fact that you've been permanently banned from EVE? I mean with most people I don't have to hide these things, because they are self evidently not true....But with you that seems to equate to proof positive...
Also - since we have clearly established that you *have no balls* and are too chicken to do a single ****ing thing....does that mean you actually have a *negative* supply of brains? That actually explains a lot... |
Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2016.08.18 00:18:23 -
[175] - Quote
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:In point of fact I have remained calm throughout this entire thread...
But as we have illustrated you are an idiot who can't read, so I suppose I understand your confusion. Debatable hahahaha Yes, blessed with more balls than brains, you are good at pointing out the obvious, terrible at hiding the fact that you are a CODE alt hahahaha What blows your cover is that you don't want the player base to be able to retaliate against gankers. Well, I wasn't aware I needed to hide something that is self evidently not true... Should I try harder to hide the fact that I am also the owner of CCP? Or the fact that every CEO of every corporation in EVE is actually *my alt*? Perhaps I should be trying to hide the fact that you've been permanently banned from EVE? I mean with most people I don't have to hide these things, because they are self evidently not true....But with you that seems to equate to proof positive... Also - since we have clearly established that you *have no balls* and are too chicken to do a single ****ing thing....does that mean you actually have a *negative* supply of brains? That actually explains a lot...
Wtfuck are you babbling about lol, stay on topic please. |
Nitshe Razvedka
1233
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Posted - 2016.08.18 03:20:52 -
[176] - Quote
CrazyRooster is after my pot-stiring-award. Must get a DNA check.
(might have been that wild ni in Tama)
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Dom Arkaral
Bite the pillow
561
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Posted - 2016.08.18 03:24:22 -
[177] - Quote
Cockchaos wrote:
Yes I was born with more balls than brains
I highly doubt that, especially since:
You're talking on an alt (like you were scared of repercussions),
You obviously never ganked (your limited knowledge on how to stop something you supposedly did, dead giveaway),
You do a lot of big talk, but you're unable to do anything you say
Stop trying to be a victim when you're nothing but an excuse.
Adapt or Die
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Nitshe Razvedka
1233
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Posted - 2016.08.18 03:31:30 -
[178] - Quote
Dom, I leave you in good hands with the OP. try and find your safe place .
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Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2016.08.18 03:31:52 -
[179] - Quote
Dom Arkaral wrote:Cockchaos wrote:
Yes I was born with more balls than brains
I highly doubt that, especially since: You're talking on an alt (like you were scared of repercussions), You obviously never ganked (your limited knowledge on how to stop something you supposedly did, dead giveaway), You do a lot of big talk, but you're unable to do anything you say Stop trying to be a victim when you're nothing but an excuse. Adapt or Die
Hahahaha, more balls than brains regarding real life bud. Balls don't cross over to an internet spaceship game, however, my stupidity does.
For now I'm using this character to talk on the forums, eventually I will use my newest main most likely, I bio massed my main main, the one I used to gank years ago.
I have not said I would do anything, the purpose of this post is to point out that gankers operate with impunity in high sec due to current game mechanics. I'm not all that interested in disrupting CODE, more interested in CCP changing mechanics so they undock in something other than a throw away gank ship.
...idiot. |
Dom Arkaral
Bite the pillow
561
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Posted - 2016.08.18 09:23:01 -
[180] - Quote
Cockchaos wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Cockchaos wrote:
Yes I was born with more balls than brains
I highly doubt that, especially since: You're talking on an alt (like you were scared of repercussions), You obviously never ganked (your limited knowledge on how to stop something you supposedly did, dead giveaway), You do a lot of big talk, but you're unable to do anything you say Stop trying to be a victim when you're nothing but an excuse. Adapt or Die Hahahaha, more balls than brains regarding real life bud. Balls don't cross over to an internet spaceship game, however, my stupidity does. For now I'm using this character to talk on the forums, eventually I will use my main.... actually I dont know which character is my main at this point, I biomassed my main main, the toon I used to gank with years ago while you were busy grinding your moon elf up in World of Warcraft. I have not said I would do anything until it is feasible to do more than disrupt CODE, the purpose of this post is to point out that gankers operate with impunity in high sec due to current game mechanics. I'm hoping things change, so members of CODE have to undock in something other than throw away gank ships. ...you imbecile
Go on with the name calling, it's really showing your toxic cause.
Keep on asking for CCP to do the player's job for you, it'll never happen.
Good luck in your endeavors... If you ever grow a pair to actually do something else than whining on the forums lmao
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Estuary Algaert
Petulant Luddite GmbH
2
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Posted - 2016.08.19 15:10:36 -
[181] - Quote
Cockchaos wrote:
...gankers operate with impunity in high sec due to current game mechanics. I'm hoping things change, so members of CODE have to undock in something other than throw away gank ships.
We (as in gankers) do not operate with impunity, our assets are just a vulnerable or more so as everyone else's in HS, it is just a question of what someone is willing to do with what they have.
As to not using throw away ships, removal of CONCORD from non-rookie systems would do that nicely. Concord forces the use of disposable ships since once used for ganking they are forfeit, so naturally we would want to use the cheapest thing possible to get the job done; Simple. In place of CONCORD action the aggressor would get flagged for 15 minutes and be unable to dock, log, leave system, cloak, reship, or refit. Sadly though, this would cause a whole slew of new opportunities to be continually missed by the AG community but I feel this would be quite fun. 
Also, regarding the OP, does anyone else get the image of them twirling a moustache and flourishing a cape every time they "hahaha"?
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1840
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Posted - 2016.08.20 06:47:51 -
[182] - Quote
Estuary Algaert wrote:
Also, regarding the OP, does anyone else get the image of them twirling a moustache and flourishing a cape every time they "hahaha"?
Nah.
More like this..:)
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Nitshe Razvedka
1271
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Posted - 2016.08.20 07:52:37 -
[183] - Quote
Mike, How is Lemmiwinks the hamster ? I hear he's not the same since you marooned him in Uranus.
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Elite Harvester
Elite Harvesters
64
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Posted - 2016.08.20 09:51:22 -
[184] - Quote
Dracvlad wrote:talked to someone from AG
The rare coherent thought that an Anti-Ganking member has is usually drowned out by their near-constant spy witch hunts and threats of real life violence anyway. It would have been wasted effort on CCP's part for little to no gain.
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Jagd Wilde
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
16
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Posted - 2016.08.20 19:46:41 -
[185] - Quote
Cockchaos wrote:Allise Soprano wrote:Delicious salty tears from OP as normal Haha I'm not crying, just pointing out that yall operate with impunity due to current game mechanics. Someday things may change, and if they do, CODE will be swiftly crushed :)
soon?
and, whats stopping you from "crushing" them now? all you need is an awox alt and a little imagination, not more nerfs.
but you would rather CCP make it even easier?
now you not even trying, you don't deserve EVE.
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1842
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Posted - 2016.08.20 22:29:23 -
[186] - Quote
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Mike, How is Lemmiwinks the hamster ? I hear he's not the same since you marooned him in Uranus. Some would hesitate to publicly acknowledge they fly in a corporation full of gerbils, but you put it out there. Good on you Mike for being a progressive trailblazer. 
???
I'm a hamster, not a gerbil.
I hear the gerbils hang out in a wormhole somewhere.
Go find them and let us know how it goes, eh?
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
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Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Runner Chase
BLOODY STEEL
1
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Posted - 2016.08.21 02:59:25 -
[187] - Quote
Idk about nerfing, I don't like changes. I have been gone a couple years and I come back and see Code in chat showing kills ect. and They have a blog yada yada I lose my ship. It definetly got my attention and I have getting killed down to an art it seems, I don't think I have a kill myself at all I don't get into pvp, But code made it interesting and I like it its fun. Capitulating and paying them off so I can mine would not be fun. I'm not sure why these high sec corps do not recruit and train pvp players to defend them ? My other corps had them and we didn't have near the danger they have now so I'm not sure whats going on or heard of any Anti Gankers or what ever they're called ingame either. Recruit some pvp players to your corp is all I can think. |
Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
407
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Posted - 2016.08.21 04:00:06 -
[188] - Quote
The salt in this thread is enough to surpass the saltiness of the Great Salt Lake in Utah. Wow...
This would cure me of the fear...
CCP Explorer liked you forum post. Now my life is complete...
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Nitshe Razvedka
1278
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Posted - 2016.08.21 04:10:00 -
[189] - Quote
I agree, nothing like codie salt.
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Nitshe Razvedka
1278
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Posted - 2016.08.21 04:18:52 -
[190] - Quote
Mike Adoulin wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Mike, How is Lemmiwinks the hamster ? I hear he's not the same since you marooned him in Uranus. Some would hesitate to publicly acknowledge they fly in a corporation full of gerbils, but you put it out there. Good on you Mike for being a progressive trailblazer. ??? I'm a hamster, not a gerbil. I hear the gerbils hang out in a wormhole somewhere. Go find them and let us know how it goes, eh?
Yes you started with little gerbils and where are you now - hamsters. Much of a muchness. Gerbils - Hamsters.
Seems your hobby is growing larger, that's all.
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Jacques d'Orleans
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
2824
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Posted - 2016.08.21 04:49:31 -
[191] - Quote
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:I agree, nothing like codie salt.
The thread is named "Taking the fight to CODE.", so when exactly are you taking said fight to CODE, because shooting POCO's isn't fighting. A fight it is when your oponent actually can fight back. Even the voices in your head should know that, you pompous wazzock.
Let me say it this way.
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Nitshe Razvedka
1278
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Posted - 2016.08.21 07:03:39 -
[192] - Quote
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:I agree, nothing like codie salt. The thread is named "Taking the fight to CODE.", so when exactly are you taking said fight to CODE, because shooting POCO's isn't fighting. A fight it is when your oponent actually can fight back. Even the voices in your head should know that, you pompous wazzock.
I'll just leave you the poco backstory so you can cry some more.
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Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2016.08.21 07:19:19 -
[193] - Quote
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:I agree, nothing like codie salt. The thread is named "Taking the fight to CODE.", so when exactly are you taking said fight to CODE, because shooting POCO's isn't fighting. A fight it is when your oponent actually can fight back. Even the voices in your head should know that, you pompous wazzock.
CODE is the our opponent and at the moment we cant fight back, we can just disrupt. |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
736
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Posted - 2016.08.21 12:08:25 -
[194] - Quote
Cockchaos wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:I agree, nothing like codie salt. The thread is named "Taking the fight to CODE.", so when exactly are you taking said fight to CODE, because shooting POCO's isn't fighting. A fight it is when your oponent actually can fight back. Even the voices in your head should know that, you pompous wazzock. CODE is the our opponent and at the moment we cant fight back, we can just disrupt.
Bullshit.
You can fight back you just cant or wont use the methods required to do it. Youve always had them available to you but you're such a bunch of paranoid disorganised idiots that you constantly fail and never seem to realise why.
And since you trumpeted that POCO kill so much I have a counter proposal.
Hey CODE guys if you want to make some catalyst money somewhere I guarantee those people will never try to stop you why not look up our extensive lowsec POCO network, we just added 50 more offices to the 1000+ we already own so theres bound to be one near you somewhere. Ask in Shadow Cartels public channel for contact details.
And believe me AGs, you are welcome to try and take them from us.
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Nitshe Razvedka
1294
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Posted - 2016.08.21 12:41:02 -
[195] - Quote
Transfer your poco's to Code. Put your poco's where your mouth is.
Once the Poco's are transferred jobs on.
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Nitshe Razvedka
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Posted - 2016.08.21 13:19:02 -
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*looking at his watch*
Been 10 minutes now, Poco's still have not been transferred yet.
Knew this one was all pisss n wind.
( Miss them old poco's don't ya Sue, cried when you were knackered. )
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
737
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Posted - 2016.08.21 13:40:48 -
[197] - Quote
I'm sorry you seem to have me, a person suggesting a mutually beneficial business arrangement, confused with a CODE supporter. I knew AGs were dumb but thats pretty special even for them.
Also I find it highly ironic that you mentioned **** and wind when you're the living embodiment of it.
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Nitshe Razvedka
1294
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Posted - 2016.08.21 14:02:31 -
[198] - Quote
Darek Castigatus wrote:I'm sorry you seem to have me, a person suggesting a mutually beneficial business arrangement, confused with a CODE supporter. I knew AGs were dumb but thats pretty special even for them.
Also I find it highly ironic that you mentioned **** and wind when you're the living embodiment of it.
Never mentioned "a mutually beneficial business arrangement", you came here for a dik measuring contest. You came up short.
I heard from your ex gf from Tama its nothing tobe ashamed of.
Now your crying, that's what you get when you whip it out every where.
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Dom Arkaral
Bite the pillow
579
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Posted - 2016.08.21 15:00:55 -
[199] - Quote
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Darek Castigatus wrote:I'm sorry you seem to have me, a person suggesting a mutually beneficial business arrangement, confused with a CODE supporter. I knew AGs were dumb but thats pretty special even for them.
Also I find it highly ironic that you mentioned **** and wind when you're the living embodiment of it.
Never mentioned "a mutually beneficial business arrangement", you came here for a dik measuring contest. You came up short. I heard from your ex gf from Tama its nothing tobe ashamed of. Now your crying, that's what you get when you whip it out every where.
The filter bypassing is stronk with you nitshie
You seem to suffer from dumbness and accute idiocy
Saying the same crappy arguments over and over again, whilst never contributing to the OP.
The new AG are a bunch of idiots that need CCP to do everything for them.
You put the old guard (jen, rham and the others) to shame, because they tried to do something about it (and succeeded sometimes too)
@op
CCP won't do anything against content
the world will still be turning even if you think "one more nerf"(tm) is needed
And if you still think that they absolutely need to nerf because your levels of absolute laziness are above your level of creativity, you need to uninstall eve (and system32 at the same time)
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Nitshe Razvedka
1294
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Posted - 2016.08.21 16:42:06 -
[200] - Quote
Dom Arkaral wrote:The filter bypassing is stronk with you nitshie You seem to suffer from dumbness and accute idiocy Saying the same crappy arguments over and over again, whilst never contributing to the OP. The new AG are a bunch of idiots that need CCP to do everything for them. You put the old guard (jen, rham and the others) to shame, because they tried to do something about it (and succeeded sometimes too) @op CCP won't do anything against content the world will still be turning even if you think "one more nerf"(tm) is needed And if you still think that they absolutely need to nerf because your levels of absolute laziness are above your level of creativity, you need to uninstall eve (and system32 at the same time)
Dom, I am as much an AG as Bumble is a codie.
What wore Jen & Coy down was the constant Codie BS mantra's on the Forums. ( I have the greatest respect for Jen, even though she slaps me down on her channel)
However, I like nothing more than scooping up all the Code rhetoric I can find, then shovelling it down their throat. ( philosophical differences )
I have NEVER called for nerfs nor buffs. I have stated there is no profit motive for AG's.
Listen carefully to what the OP has said ref citadels, that is neither a nerf nor buff, but gives their owners CHOICE. (You never know they may not let foul mouthed AG's in. ) Big difference. I agree with the OP on this proposal.
If your lack of insight makes you look stupid Dom, it is what it is.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Second-Dawn
2278
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Posted - 2016.08.21 16:50:11 -
[201] - Quote
Darek Castigatus wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:I agree, nothing like codie salt. The thread is named "Taking the fight to CODE.", so when exactly are you taking said fight to CODE, because shooting POCO's isn't fighting. A fight it is when your oponent actually can fight back. Even the voices in your head should know that, you pompous wazzock. CODE is the our opponent and at the moment we cant fight back, we can just disrupt. Bullshit. You can fight back you just cant or wont use the methods required to do it. Youve always had them available to you but you're such a bunch of paranoid disorganised idiots that you constantly fail and never seem to realise why. And since you trumpeted that POCO kill so much I have a counter proposal. Hey CODE guys if you want to make some catalyst money somewhere I guarantee those people will never try to stop you why not look up our extensive lowsec POCO network, we just added 50 more offices to the 1000+ we already own so theres bound to be one near you somewhere. Ask in Shadow Cartels public channel for contact details. And believe me AGs, you are welcome to try and take them from us.
Why don't you go and shoot CODE seeing as you are so professional?
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Second-Dawn
2278
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Posted - 2016.08.21 17:04:35 -
[202] - Quote
Elite Harvester wrote:Dracvlad wrote:talked to someone from AG The rare coherent thought that an Anti-Ganking member has is usually drowned out by their near-constant spy witch hunts and threats of real life violence anyway. It would have been wasted effort on CCP's part for little to no gain.
I find this rather odd, first of all I have never made a RL threat against anyone in Eve. Never burned a witch at the stake over Eve, or dunked them in a pond to see if they float either. I don't know where you get this rubbish from, I guess you are just projecting like most ganker nerds...
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Cockchaos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2016.08.21 18:59:05 -
[203] - Quote
To all you ganker sympathizers
If CODE is lazy, makes a mistake, or does not bring enough DPS all they lose is
A few millions in throw away gank ships
When care bears are lazy, make a mistake, or don't bring enough remote reps, they lose hundreds of billions
Unbalanced gameplay
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pelon pelonete
Viziam
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2016.08.21 19:07:03 -
[204] - Quote
Cockchaos wrote:To all you ganker sympathizers
If CODE is lazy, makes a mistake, or does not bring enough DPS all they lose is
A few millions in throw away gank ships
When care bears are lazy, make a mistake, or don't bring enough remote reps, they lose hundreds of billions
Unbalanced gameplay
Then deploy cheap mining ships with T1 tank and T1 drones and fixed.
No need to buy a T2 mining ship with no tank to protect your investment because you want 3 more mining cycles to fill the ore bay.
But that would make too much sense and people are greedy.
Remember don't fly what you cant afford?
I engage CODE with mostly T1 fitted ships, so If loose one its just as cheap as what I have killed. |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
740
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Posted - 2016.08.21 19:35:58 -
[205] - Quote
Dracvlad wrote:Darek Castigatus wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:I agree, nothing like codie salt. The thread is named "Taking the fight to CODE.", so when exactly are you taking said fight to CODE, because shooting POCO's isn't fighting. A fight it is when your oponent actually can fight back. Even the voices in your head should know that, you pompous wazzock. CODE is the our opponent and at the moment we cant fight back, we can just disrupt. Bullshit. You can fight back you just cant or wont use the methods required to do it. Youve always had them available to you but you're such a bunch of paranoid disorganised idiots that you constantly fail and never seem to realise why. And since you trumpeted that POCO kill so much I have a counter proposal. Hey CODE guys if you want to make some catalyst money somewhere I guarantee those people will never try to stop you why not look up our extensive lowsec POCO network, we just added 50 more offices to the 1000+ we already own so theres bound to be one near you somewhere. Ask in Shadow Cartels public channel for contact details. And believe me AGs, you are welcome to try and take them from us. Why don't you go and shoot CODE seeing as you are so professional?
Because I dont give a **** about them, they have zero effect on my game or my ability to play. I'm merely making a suggestion that would bring us some extra business and maybe some pew if a miracle happened and the AGs actually got organised and ventured out of highsec.
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Elite Harvester
Elite Harvesters
75
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Posted - 2016.08.21 20:38:53 -
[206] - Quote
Cockchaos wrote:When care bears are lazy, make a mistake, or don't bring enough remote reps, they lose hundreds of billions
Could you... uh... send me a list of these carebears that are carrying hundreds of billions in loot? I need it uh... f-for science. Yeah! That's it! Science!
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Second-Dawn
2278
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Posted - 2016.08.21 20:42:36 -
[207] - Quote
Darek Castigatus wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Darek Castigatus wrote:Bullshit.
You can fight back you just cant or wont use the methods required to do it. Youve always had them available to you but you're such a bunch of paranoid disorganised idiots that you constantly fail and never seem to realise why.
And since you trumpeted that POCO kill so much I have a counter proposal.
Hey CODE guys if you want to make some catalyst money somewhere I guarantee those people will never try to stop you why not look up our extensive lowsec POCO network, we just added 50 more offices to the 1000+ we already own so theres bound to be one near you somewhere. Ask in Shadow Cartels public channel for contact details.
And believe me AGs, you are welcome to try and take them from us. Why don't you go and shoot CODE seeing as you are so professional? Because I dont give a **** about them, they have zero effect on my game or my ability to play. I'm merely making a suggestion that would bring us some extra business and maybe some pew if a miracle happened and the AGs actually got organised and ventured out of highsec.
I am a bit amused to see a low sec pirate group suggesting that a hisec militia group that fights ganking in hisec should go and blap the pox ridden POCO's of Shadow Cartel in low sec. That does not make any sense whatsoever.
Also in terms of your previous post it was hot air, you lot have no way of fighting CODE, you would be damn useless at it.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Chapo Muerte
The Conference Elite
CODE.
0
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Posted - 2016.08.21 20:48:03 -
[208] - Quote
Just remember mining permits are on sale right now for 10 million ISK!
Contact your local code representative today to purchase yours now
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Dom Arkaral
Bite the pillow
579
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Posted - 2016.08.21 23:09:29 -
[209] - Quote
Dracvlad wrote:Darek Castigatus wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Darek Castigatus wrote:Bullshit.
You can fight back you just cant or wont use the methods required to do it. Youve always had them available to you but you're such a bunch of paranoid disorganised idiots that you constantly fail and never seem to realise why.
And since you trumpeted that POCO kill so much I have a counter proposal.
Hey CODE guys if you want to make some catalyst money somewhere I guarantee those people will never try to stop you why not look up our extensive lowsec POCO network, we just added 50 more offices to the 1000+ we already own so theres bound to be one near you somewhere. Ask in Shadow Cartels public channel for contact details.
And believe me AGs, you are welcome to try and take them from us. Why don't you go and shoot CODE seeing as you are so professional? Because I dont give a **** about them, they have zero effect on my game or my ability to play. I'm merely making a suggestion that would bring us some extra business and maybe some pew if a miracle happened and the AGs actually got organised and ventured out of highsec. I am a bit amused to see a low sec pirate group suggesting that a hisec militia group that fights ganking in hisec should go and blap the pox ridden POCO's of Shadow Cartel in low sec. That does not make any sense whatsoever. Also in terms of your previous post it was hot air, you lot have no way of fighting CODE, you would be damn useless at it.
SC are hunters, hunting CODE. or their assets wouldn't be much of a problem for them... unlike you they do more ingame pvp than forum pvp
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Forum Alts Anonymous
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Posted - 2016.08.21 23:26:10 -
[210] - Quote
Dom Arkaral wrote:SC are hunters, hunting CODE. or their assets wouldn't be much of a problem for them... unlike you they do more ingame pvp than forum pvp Ironically (given the proposed target) security status would probably be their biggest obstacle...
It would be....interesting...though... To see a large pirate/criminal empire hunting a different kind of criminal empire - in high sec where both sides would take more dps from the faction navy than from each other  |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
740
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Posted - 2016.08.21 23:50:54 -
[211] - Quote
Dracvlad wrote:Darek Castigatus wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Darek Castigatus wrote:Bullshit.
You can fight back you just cant or wont use the methods required to do it. Youve always had them available to you but you're such a bunch of paranoid disorganised idiots that you constantly fail and never seem to realise why.
And since you trumpeted that POCO kill so much I have a counter proposal.
Hey CODE guys if you want to make some catalyst money somewhere I guarantee those people will never try to stop you why not look up our extensive lowsec POCO network, we just added 50 more offices to the 1000+ we already own so theres bound to be one near you somewhere. Ask in Shadow Cartels public channel for contact details.
And believe me AGs, you are welcome to try and take them from us. Why don't you go and shoot CODE seeing as you are so professional? Because I dont give a **** about them, they have zero effect on my game or my ability to play. I'm merely making a suggestion that would bring us some extra business and maybe some pew if a miracle happened and the AGs actually got organised and ventured out of highsec. I am a bit amused to see a low sec pirate group suggesting that a hisec militia group that fights ganking in hisec should go and blap the pox ridden POCO's of Shadow Cartel in low sec. That does not make any sense whatsoever. Also in terms of your previous post it was hot air, you lot have no way of fighting CODE, you would be damn useless at it.
Why would we want to fight CODE, their antics and the utter uselessness of the people trying to fight them are hilarious.
Its almost as amusing as the people who think I'm a CODE supporter just because I think most antigankers are complete idiots, or the guys who think that because I said 'hey I saw some of your POCOs died, come and use ours instead' and warned we would defend them if people tried to kill them that I'm somehow demanding people come and fight us.
Do as you wish, we'll carry on giving zero fucks about your opinions just like always.
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Nitshe Razvedka
1298
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Posted - 2016.08.22 00:05:42 -
[212] - Quote
I like turtles.
No, We'll carry on giving zero roots about your opinions just like always.
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Runner Chase
BLOODY STEEL
1
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Posted - 2016.08.22 03:29:11 -
[213] - Quote
Cockchaos wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:I agree, nothing like codie salt. The thread is named "Taking the fight to CODE.", so when exactly are you taking said fight to CODE, because shooting POCO's isn't fighting. A fight it is when your oponent actually can fight back. Even the voices in your head should know that, you pompous wazzock. CODE is the our opponent and at the moment we cant fight back, we can just disrupt. Perhaps that's the how we do it, if all your piece's are guarded and you have a strategy.
We need to unite but more important we need escorts soaring around protecting us in each system, on duty.
I don't know squat about pvp but I aint chicken. I'm sure even if a small portion of the miners decided to pick up pitch forks and torches we could make a difference.
We need someone with a creative imagination on the blog side of the story to help draw in support.
idk just throwing anything at the wall here lol.
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Runner Chase
BLOODY STEEL
1
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Posted - 2016.08.22 03:44:15 -
[214] - Quote
Darek Castigatus wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Darek Castigatus wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Darek Castigatus wrote:Bullshit.
You can fight back you just cant or wont use the methods required to do it. Youve always had them available to you but you're such a bunch of paranoid disorganised idiots that you constantly fail and never seem to realise why.
And since you trumpeted that POCO kill so much I have a counter proposal.
Hey CODE guys if you want to make some catalyst money somewhere I guarantee those people will never try to stop you why not look up our extensive lowsec POCO network, we just added 50 more offices to the 1000+ we already own so theres bound to be one near you somewhere. Ask in Shadow Cartels public channel for contact details.
And believe me AGs, you are welcome to try and take them from us. Why don't you go and shoot CODE seeing as you are so professional? Because I dont give a **** about them, they have zero effect on my game or my ability to play. I'm merely making a suggestion that would bring us some extra business and maybe some pew if a miracle happened and the AGs actually got organised and ventured out of highsec. I am a bit amused to see a low sec pirate group suggesting that a hisec militia group that fights ganking in hisec should go and blap the pox ridden POCO's of Shadow Cartel in low sec. That does not make any sense whatsoever. Also in terms of your previous post it was hot air, you lot have no way of fighting CODE, you would be damn useless at it. Why would we want to fight CODE, their antics and the utter uselessness of the people trying to fight them are hilarious. Its almost as amusing as the people who think I'm a CODE supporter just because I think most antigankers are complete idiots, or the guys who think that because I said 'hey I saw some of your POCOs died, come and use ours instead' and warned we would defend them if people tried to kill them that I'm somehow demanding people come and fight us. Do as you wish, we'll carry on giving zero fucks about your opinions just like always.
Ha :) it is hilarious we all like to laugh don't we ?
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Chapo Muerte
The Conference Elite
CODE.
0
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Posted - 2016.08.22 04:09:57 -
[215] - Quote
Runner Chase wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:I agree, nothing like codie salt. The thread is named "Taking the fight to CODE.", so when exactly are you taking said fight to CODE, because shooting POCO's isn't fighting. A fight it is when your oponent actually can fight back. Even the voices in your head should know that, you pompous wazzock. CODE is the our opponent and at the moment we cant fight back, we can just disrupt. Perhaps that's the how we do it, if all your piece's are guarded and you have a strategy. We need to unite but more important we need escorts soaring around protecting us in each system, on duty. I don't know squat about pvp but I aint chicken. I'm sure even if a small portion of the miners decided to pick up pitch forks and torches we could make a difference. We need someone with a creative imagination on the blog side of the story to help draw in support. idk just throwing anything at the wall here lol.
You guys had Gorilla Vengaza who would write a somewhat funny blog poking fun at Code. However he got tired and burnt out from all the toxicity and negativity within Anti-ganking and left to join Code where he was welcomed with open arms and had the most fun hes ever had.
However the sheer negativity and toxic attitude within AG drove him away. If you changed the environment within anti-ganking and made it fun - even a bit of roleplay added to it you could have something fun - but good luck with that. |
Runner Chase
BLOODY STEEL
1
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Posted - 2016.08.22 04:11:34 -
[216] - Quote
Cockchaos wrote:Been away from game for a little, heard about what the chodes of CODE have been up to in high sec. It seems to me that due to current game mechanics there is not a whole lot that can be done to combat them.
What can be done?
Alliance's need to be forged between the high sec corps and then We hunt them, they're Blinky anyways ?!!" wtf are we talking here.. use jump clones, jump into a fighter fleet up and go looking for Code, kill them where they stand ! Then blog about it,.
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Chapo Muerte
The Conference Elite
CODE.
0
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Posted - 2016.08.22 04:17:35 -
[217] - Quote
Runner Chase wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Been away from game for a little, heard about what the chodes of CODE have been up to in high sec. It seems to me that due to current game mechanics there is not a whole lot that can be done to combat them.
What can be done?
Alliance's need to be forged between the high sec corps and then We hunt them, they're Blinky anyways ?!!" wtf are we talking here.. use jump clones, jump into a fighter fleet up and go looking for Code, kill them where they stand ! Then blog about it,.
Still waiting on alliances to be forged between any antiganker corp/alliance that isn't the npc corp.
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Runner Chase
BLOODY STEEL
1
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Posted - 2016.08.22 04:23:58 -
[218] - Quote
Chapo Muerte wrote:Runner Chase wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:I agree, nothing like codie salt. The thread is named "Taking the fight to CODE.", so when exactly are you taking said fight to CODE, because shooting POCO's isn't fighting. A fight it is when your oponent actually can fight back. Even the voices in your head should know that, you pompous wazzock. CODE is the our opponent and at the moment we cant fight back, we can just disrupt. Perhaps that's the how we do it, if all your piece's are guarded and you have a strategy. We need to unite but more important we need escorts soaring around protecting us in each system, on duty. I don't know squat about pvp but I aint chicken. I'm sure even if a small portion of the miners decided to pick up pitch forks and torches we could make a difference. We need someone with a creative imagination on the blog side of the story to help draw in support. idk just throwing anything at the wall here lol. You guys had Gorilla Vengaza who would write a somewhat funny blog poking fun at Code. However he got tired and burnt out from all the toxicity and negativity within Anti-ganking and left to join Code where he was welcomed with open arms and had the most fun hes ever had. However the sheer negativity and toxic attitude within AG drove him away. If you changed the environment within anti-ganking and made it fun - even a bit of roleplay added to it you could have something fun - but good luck with that.
I've had a few sorry for the double posting.
YeSssss !
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Runner Chase
BLOODY STEEL
1
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Posted - 2016.08.22 04:28:13 -
[219] - Quote
Chapo Muerte wrote:Runner Chase wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Been away from game for a little, heard about what the chodes of CODE have been up to in high sec. It seems to me that due to current game mechanics there is not a whole lot that can be done to combat them.
What can be done?
Alliance's need to be forged between the high sec corps and then We hunt them, they're Blinky anyways ?!!" wtf are we talking here.. use jump clones, jump into a fighter fleet up and go looking for Code, kill them where they stand ! Then blog about it,. Still waiting on alliances to be forged between any antiganker corp/alliance that isn't the npc corp.
Haha :D I don't even know what you ment by that is how much idk about the game... just fffft right over my head I guess.
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The Butthole Licker
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.08.22 05:00:19 -
[220] - Quote
Chapo Muerte wrote:Runner Chase wrote:Cockchaos wrote:Been away from game for a little, heard about what the chodes of CODE have been up to in high sec. It seems to me that due to current game mechanics there is not a whole lot that can be done to combat them.
What can be done?
Alliance's need to be forged between the high sec corps and then We hunt them, they're Blinky anyways ?!!" wtf are we talking here.. use jump clones, jump into a fighter fleet up and go looking for Code, kill them where they stand ! Then blog about it,. Still waiting on alliances to be forged between any antiganker corp/alliance that isn't the npc corp.
Under current game mechanics, no one wants to chase you and your boyfriends around in the throw away gank ships yall undock in, It is a wasted of time. We want to dish out real damage.
And if the mechanics ever change, you guys wont have to wait long for the coalition to be organized, and your gank operations will be of a small fraction of what they are today.
We will crush CODE.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Second-Dawn
2283
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Posted - 2016.08.22 05:23:53 -
[221] - Quote
Dom Arkaral wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Darek Castigatus wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Darek Castigatus wrote:Bullshit.
You can fight back you just cant or wont use the methods required to do it. Youve always had them available to you but you're such a bunch of paranoid disorganised idiots that you constantly fail and never seem to realise why.
And since you trumpeted that POCO kill so much I have a counter proposal.
Hey CODE guys if you want to make some catalyst money somewhere I guarantee those people will never try to stop you why not look up our extensive lowsec POCO network, we just added 50 more offices to the 1000+ we already own so theres bound to be one near you somewhere. Ask in Shadow Cartels public channel for contact details.
And believe me AGs, you are welcome to try and take them from us. Why don't you go and shoot CODE seeing as you are so professional? Because I dont give a **** about them, they have zero effect on my game or my ability to play. I'm merely making a suggestion that would bring us some extra business and maybe some pew if a miracle happened and the AGs actually got organised and ventured out of highsec. I am a bit amused to see a low sec pirate group suggesting that a hisec militia group that fights ganking in hisec should go and blap the pox ridden POCO's of Shadow Cartel in low sec. That does not make any sense whatsoever. Also in terms of your previous post it was hot air, you lot have no way of fighting CODE, you would be damn useless at it. SC are hunters, hunting CODE. or their assets wouldn't be much of a problem for them... unlike you they do more ingame pvp than forum pvp
Actually this weekend we had a lot of success stopping the freigter gankers and when they did kill one the loot fairy was especially kind to AG. Most of them logged off in disgust after they failed to gank a JF, which managed to get into warp as their gank fleet arrived and then cynoed out when it jumped into Kaap. The best part was one of the gankers getting really salty when we saved an Orca...
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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The Butthole Licker
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.08.22 05:29:52 -
[222] - Quote
Good to hear it, but all you are doing is disrupting them. Considering the amount of assets they destroy, the mechanics should be put in place so that we can do real damage to them.
And if they fight for their ability to gank, and succeed, than they deserve to be killing jump freighters everyday. But for now, we cant see if that is the case. They are protected and operate with impunity from real consequence. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Second-Dawn
2283
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Posted - 2016.08.22 05:42:37 -
[223] - Quote
Darek Castigatus wrote:Why would we want to fight CODE, their antics and the utter uselessness of the people trying to fight them are hilarious.
Its almost as amusing as the people who think I'm a CODE supporter just because I think most antigankers are complete idiots, or the guys who think that because I said 'hey I saw some of your POCOs died, come and use ours instead' and warned we would defend them if people tried to kill them that I'm somehow demanding people come and fight us.
Do as you wish, we'll carry on giving zero fucks about your opinions just like always.
I just think you are a useless troll, on one hand you talk about CODE not affecting you, which is evident you are in lowsec, the next thing you decide that AG should man up and blap your POCO's in lowsec. You are obviously butthurt over something, but I can't quite work out why you would think AG would 'man up' and have interest in your POCO's, it just seems utterly inane to me and I have you marked as a shrill for CODE.
I certainly give zero fecks about you and your opinions, yet another loud mouth HTFU poster shrilling for CODE.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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