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Talisorn	Posted - 2008.01.09 02:37:00 - [1] Edited by: Talisorn on 09/01/2008 02:42:03 Being a recent returnee to EVE after a very long absence, I've only really caught up with what's happening with Ambulation just now. And I have to say I find this very, very exciting. One of the things I found lacking in EVE (that was there in all other MMORPGs) was the "human" element. You may as well just be an AI controlling a ship. You had no real connection with people. Ambulation adds that ... FINALLY! I love the fact they are limiting it to non-combat ... I mean what is station security for? I think they should add in a whole range of emotes ... even /dance, but perhaps limit some of them to places where they would be appropriate (like only being able to /dance in a club or recreation area). I think that as long as there is enough differentiation between stations (and not just 3 variants of each races station layouts), exploration on the macro and micro level will add a whole new element to the game. I'd probably end up quitting all my other MMORPGs. I can't wait for this to come out!!
Talisorn	Posted - 2008.01.09 21:03:00 - [2] Originally by: INTACTized Edited by: INTACTized on 09/01/2008 19:38:59 Originally by: MotherMoon stuff I don't understand why people aren't posting the 1 hour video of this on the eve-online site. Enlighten me with a link. I second the motion! linky linky please!
Talisorn	Posted - 2008.01.10 02:37:00 - [3] Originally by: ACHILEE5 Well, if it means running Vista. CCP can stick the hole deal where the sun dont shine! There are plenty of other games out there, that have little people running around happly using DX9! But realy cant see the point in it all. With the amount of cross dressing bunch of****s that are in EVE. How ya going to know how to chat, when ya don't know what your chatting to I say, at least allow fighting so if it does turn out to be a man in a dress, ya can give him a smack in the mouth lol Translation: I resist change!
Talisorn	Posted - 2008.01.10 21:42:00 - [4] Edited by: Talisorn on 10/01/2008 21:45:38 Originally by: ACHILEE5 Originally by: Talisorn Originally by: ACHILEE5 Well, if it means running Vista. CCP can stick the hole deal where the sun dont shine! There are plenty of other games out there, that have little people running around happly using DX9! But realy cant see the point in it all. With the amount of cross dressing bunch of**s that are in EVE. How ya going to know how to chat, when ya don't know what your chatting to I say, at least allow fighting so if it does turn out to be a man in a dress, ya can give him a smack in the mouth lol Translation: I resist change! Who the ** are you, getting excited that you might go clubing! Get a life Jurk Wow! Defensive!!! I'm someone who is sick of thinking of their character as a SHIP. That is the only view we really with our character just a meaningless portrait. I'd like to see the HUMANITY brought back into the game. So who the hell are you to rail against the people getting excited about that? And I have a wife, two kids a 100k job and spend around 2 hours a night playing. I HAVE a life ..... how much of a life do you have? Oh ... and lern2spel.
Talisorn	Posted - 2008.01.13 22:39:00 - [5] Originally by: SiJira i still find the characters too sexually provocative all the characters seem to resemble a gallente style Even mine? LOL!
Talisorn	Posted - 2008.01.16 02:25:00 - [6] Edited by: Talisorn on 16/01/2008 02:25:20 I'm going to throw something wild and crazy into the mix .... One of the things I'd find really cool would be the ability to walk around your own ship. The current interface could be portrayed as a holographic interface/tactical view (if you can imagine a kind of like a close in view of the chess table in Star Wars, but in a lot more detail). But also have the added bonus of having the equivalent of in-game housing ... except it's mobile. It may not be for everyone, but it would give a much better sense of immersion and scale.
Talisorn	Posted - 2008.01.21 23:05:00 - [7] Edited by: Talisorn on 21/01/2008 23:08:48 Originally by: B1FF Why won't this thread die? Go read the material CCP has released. Ambulation is a completely pointless waste of time. It will not be used. I hope it never sees the light of day. Emphasis on the I. A lot of people want this. A lot of people will enjoy this. The game is not just about *YOU. If CCP want to make more cash and have an even bigger, more popular game, I hope the EXTEND* the concept to within player's own ships, allow people to be invited onto ships and even allow them to ferry players between space stations (like a taxi service). Even better, allow players to view the outside from the inside through windows. This will attract a whole lot of people who just don't get off on viewing their character as a ship. Personally, I love the idea of playing a human character instead. Or is the real reason you don't like the idea is that you feel uncomfortable playing a female character. Just thought you'd only be a portrait? Bit off more than you could chew?
Talisorn	Posted - 2008.01.24 03:06:00 - [8] Originally by: B1FF <snip> Don't add a useless feature to this game. Ok ... let me put it this way (as you won't be convinced it'll benefit you): They're doing it. Get over it. 'nuff said.
Talisorn	Posted - 2008.01.24 21:38:00 - [9] Edited by: Talisorn on 24/01/2008 21:46:30 Originally by: B1FF Maybe it will bring people but no one will use it. It seems like a lot of effort to simply put a bullet point on the side of the "box". How can you say no one will use it? I'll use it. That kind of immediately invalidates your point. Originally by: B1FF Why are people going to use it? There's no game. There's no design. .... <snip> I have no idea how long you've been playng EVE, but I was around when it launched. Back then you could mine, rat, mine, pvp, fly about ... or ummm ... mine. About 80% of the functionality and content that is in the game now was just NOT THERE. But CCP went ahead and released what they had and look at what we have now. EVE is a work in progress. The same can be said of Ambulation. It's a starting point. It has the potential to add that much more to the game. You obviously don't agree ... so we'll just have to leave it at that. CCP have said they are doing it. There's nothing you can do or say that will stop that.
Talisorn	Posted - 2008.01.25 05:00:00 - [10] Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor Originally by: Asymptotic Some possibilities for /dance: <snip> NO DANCING FFS! GIVE US DANCING FFS!!!

Talisorn	Posted - 2008.01.28 22:06:00 - [11] Originally by: Knoppaz Amarr get /pray Hey ... this cranky old ol' Amarr, after 70 years, has finally learned to let his hair (or whatever's left of it) down! Let's boogie!
Talisorn	Posted - 2008.01.30 01:52:00 - [12] Edited by: Talisorn on 30/01/2008 02:00:31 Meh ... when Ambulation is implemented, I'll enjoy it. And from what I gather from the posts here, I won't be the only one. Originally by: Westly Synpa This game is entrily about pvp and having huge consquences for dying what makes you think griefing doesn't play a huge role. Everyone approaches this game in a different way. That's the beauty of the sandbox that CCP have created. It's impossible to say the "game is entrily (sic) about pvp" for that reason. The game I play is not about PvP. It's about doing agent missions, trading, chatting and burning off a couple of hours after coming home from work. I couldn't give a rat's left buttock about anything outside 0.5 space. It's just not for me. But I recognise there are some the "hardcore" players that don't see a benefit of the kind of game I play (probably for the same reasons they see no benefit to Ambulation). I personally see no benefit to me in playing the hardcore PvP game. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. And in the meantime, let CCP do their job making Ambulation.
Talisorn	Posted - 2008.01.30 21:18:00 - [13] Originally by: B1FF Edited by: B1FF on 30/01/2008 12:07:33 Originally by: Talisorn But I recognise there are some the "hardcore" players that don't see a benefit of the kind of game I play (probably for the same reasons they see no benefit to Ambulation). I personally see no benefit to me in playing the hardcore PvP game. It's not that I see no benefit for me it's that I see no benefit for anyone. I see the design as broken. I've made these points. If you'd like to address them I'd be more than happy to respond. Biff. Your points HAVE been addressed by several people. So either you just don't get it or you are just trolling. At this point, with the way it's you are carrying on, I have to believe it's the later. For someone who wanted this thread to die (several pages back) you are doing your best to keep it alive.
Talisorn	Posted - 2008.02.04 02:22:00 - [14] Edited by: Talisorn on 04/02/2008 02:25:54 Edited by: Talisorn on 04/02/2008 02:25:14 Originally by: B1FF Originally by: Fyrewyre At no point did i state it was a bad idea, i said i thought it would be more appealing to a certain player base, just like mining is to people who want to mine. Any change to mining quite literally effects every player. If they were to change the way mining is done, it wouldn't affect me in the slightest. People will still mine. I couldn't care less about HOW it's done ... it just gets done. Same thing with Ambulation. Things will get purchased, regardless of wither they do it by ambulating or not. So why do you really care ... when no matter WHAT you say about it, it's going to be done anyway. Your constant whining about it isn't going to stop it from happening.
Talisorn	Posted - 2008.02.04 21:16:00 - [15] Edited by: Talisorn on 04/02/2008 21:17:09 Originally by: B1FF "Build it and they will come." only works in the movies. You may be correct. I believe you are not. Regardless, we will see WHEN Ambulation is released ... ... won't we B1FF?
Talisorn	Posted - 2008.02.07 21:30:00 - [16] I think we're talking at odds when we're talking immersion in a game. Immersion to me is the ability to switch off for a while and imagine you are somewhere else ... someone else. It comes easy to some people, while others just can't do it at all. While some may disagree, I find that immersion comes easier to those who have a vivid imagination and the ability to roleplay. I've had enormous fun in WoW roleplaying my Dwarf, communicating in nothing but a broken (phoenetically spelt) scottish "accent" and playing a rough and tumble, hard drinking, tough character. I got more laughs and had more fun. But that kind of role-play comes easy to me .... I'm an old school role-player from at least 30 years back. Why do you think my avatar is a angry looking wizened old Ammar? He's a hardened old bugger who's been through the wars. He's not some "pretty boy/girl" just out of the academy! "The academy teaches you nothing that experience cannot". And here in comes the crux of the problem I see with playing a character without any representation of your character. In EVE you play a ship. You don't play a character. I find that too impersonal and stretches the imagination. Ambulation will put the humanity back into the game that has been lacking for so long. Now will this appeal to everybody? NO! Many people approach EVE on purely a number crunching strategic/tactical level. To them their ship is nothing but a group of numbers and percentages that when faced with an opponent becomes odd of success or failure. These people do not play EVE because they are playing a character. Type A personalitys will get nothing out of ambulation. That's not a bad thing, but it's just not their game. (I suspect B1FF is one of these types). Those of us however who prefer to socialise, relax, not necessarily drive to achieve but instead flow with the the game will be happy with Ambulation. But that's my opinion. Roleplayers rejoice! Ambulation is coming.
Talisorn	Posted - 2008.02.13 02:28:00 - [17] Edited by: Talisorn on 13/02/2008 02:28:24 Originally by: Oceanis Sombra By the way. When is that extension plan to be release? I have see 2008. Meaning end of 2008? Who knows. I'm not all that keen for them to rush it to be honest. However long it takes, I guess. Hmmm .... it's been quiet here. Perhaps TOO quiet.
Talisorn	Posted - 2008.03.03 21:27:00 - [18] So are there any updates from CCP regarding Ambulation?
Talisorn TOG Empire	Posted - 2008.03.25 01:13:00 - [19] Edited by: Talisorn on 25/03/2008 01:15:23 Originally by: Cipher7 It's not. But it is billed as a PvP game about internet spaceships. Hmmm ... perhaps you can point out where it says that EVE is a PvP game, rather than a game with PvP in it. There is plenty of things to do if you don't PvP ... and yet people to continue to perpetuate the myth that EVE is just about PvP. Originally by: Queen Killerz Ambulation LET ME KNOW SO I CAN CANCEL ALL MY ACCOUNTS Hurry up an implement ambulation then!!!
Talisorn TOG Empire	Posted - 2008.04.06 22:13:00 - [20] Edited by: Talisorn on 06/04/2008 22:16:06 Originally by: MotherMoon it's a pod dude, your a pod pilot. you get hooked up to every ship system and (while few) crew member neurally. your not a guy in a co.ckpit, your a demi-god in control of a powerful huge machine. It seems that new technology has found a way for you to unhook yourself from the pod and have a bit of a walk around. Thank GOD for that too ... I've been dying to go to the toilet for ages. I've always found the pod concept where your all hooked up an odd explanation. I mean look at your portrait. What's the point of having clothes and jewelery if you're hooked up perpetually to a massive machine. It doesn't make a lot of sense.

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