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Callitari Mundani
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.08.21 13:39:13 -
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Hello,
Niarja & Uedama are "Hi-sec systems", there is already too much ganking around which limits the anti-ganker pilots to reactive actions, I suggest we do these systems lowsec so we could have fun all day long.
Everybody is ganking there, using the stations freely without any issues, sec status is non-sense - let's have a brawl! Cut the hisec connections between the market hubs, that would be GREAT fun! It will open full range of new possibilities for gankers / anti-gankers alike.
Haulers could start to pay for protection, make alliances, etc ... Using the current configuration, gankers are in a great advantage - time to reballance that! |
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
823
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Posted - 2016.08.21 13:41:32 -
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Yeah not going to happen.
Highsec's for everyone, including the routes between trade hubs.
IB4L
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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Callitari Mundani
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.08.21 13:44:27 -
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Lowsec systems are for everyone aswell, making two systems lowsec doesn't mean that theyt won't be for everyone anymore. Your argument is illogical. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
26626
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Posted - 2016.08.21 13:45:32 -
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The main reason that gankers have an advantage is that people are apathetic and/or lazy.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
824
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Posted - 2016.08.21 13:45:57 -
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Callitari Mundani wrote:Lowsec systems are for everyone aswell, making two systems lowsec doesn't mean that won't be for everyone anymore. Your argument is illogical. Yeah, there's tonnes of freighters moving through lowsec systems.
This is just a stupid thread.
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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Hengle Teron
Order In Disorder Curatores Veritatis Alliance
60509
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Posted - 2016.08.21 13:53:08 -
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Anti-ganker calling for a highsec system to be turned lowsec... Now I've seen it all. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2275
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Posted - 2016.08.21 13:58:43 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The main reason that gankers have an advantage is that people are apathetic and/or lazy.
Yesterday I went out with some anti-gankers for some fun, first couple of hours was stopping a Vexor ganker from plying his trade, nothing was ganked while I was sitting there in a Phobus with his loot scooper pre-locked.
After that I heard of an event in Mad, someone had got a warp in with a ganker with 1 ISK KR, so I went to kill him, but he went for a gank and someone took it...
Then I went and sat in a station leaving my alt in Niarja, to find a blackbird pointing a Fenrrir, I jumped into a repping ship then headed there getting my alt into a rep ship too, then I called for a response. We got enough logi in system and on the freighter in time so that when the gank fleet came in the numbers were against them, then the person who was being bumped brought in DST's and a ton of logi. The gankers gave up having lost 4 Stealth Bombers warping around the system. The freighter pilot concerned made a healthy donation to the AG players who first reacted.
Neither he or the AG players were apathetic or lazy, we congratulated him on his play, he played Eve perfectly...
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
447
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Posted - 2016.08.21 14:06:12 -
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I like the idea of a decentralized New Eden so making each trade hub or empire region its own high sec island could be pretty cool
Nerf Jita!
@lunettelulu7
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
26626
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Posted - 2016.08.21 14:06:14 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The main reason that gankers have an advantage is that people are apathetic and/or lazy. Yesterday I went out with some anti-gankers for some fun, first couple of hours was stopping a Vexor ganker from plying his trade, nothing was ganked while I was sitting there in a Phobus with his loot scooper pre-locked. After that I heard of an event in Mad, someone had got a warp in with a ganker with 1 ISK KR, so I went to kill him, but he went for a gank and someone took it... Then I went and sat in a station leaving my alt in Niarja, to find a blackbird pointing a Fenrrir, I jumped into a repping ship then headed there getting my alt into a rep ship too, then I called for a response. We got enough logi in system and on the freighter in time so that when the gank fleet came in the numbers were against them, then the person who was being bumped brought in DST's and a ton of logi. The gankers gave up having lost 4 Stealth Bombers warping around the system. The freighter pilot concerned made a healthy donation to the AG players who first reacted. Neither he or the AG players were apathetic or lazy, we congratulated him on his play, he played Eve perfectly... Did I mention anybody specific?
Despite your little anecdote the fact remains that a large proportion of hisec residents are apathetic and/or lazy.
Congrats on a successful op btw.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2275
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Posted - 2016.08.21 14:10:16 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The main reason that gankers have an advantage is that people are apathetic and/or lazy. Yesterday I went out with some anti-gankers for some fun, first couple of hours was stopping a Vexor ganker from plying his trade, nothing was ganked while I was sitting there in a Phobus with his loot scooper pre-locked. After that I heard of an event in Mad, someone had got a warp in with a ganker with 1 ISK KR, so I went to kill him, but he went for a gank and someone took it... Then I went and sat in a station leaving my alt in Niarja, to find a blackbird pointing a Fenrrir, I jumped into a repping ship then headed there getting my alt into a rep ship too, then I called for a response. We got enough logi in system and on the freighter in time so that when the gank fleet came in the numbers were against them, then the person who was being bumped brought in DST's and a ton of logi. The gankers gave up having lost 4 Stealth Bombers warping around the system. The freighter pilot concerned made a healthy donation to the AG players who first reacted. Neither he or the AG players were apathetic or lazy, we congratulated him on his play, he played Eve perfectly... Did I mention anybody specific? Despite your little anecdote the fact remains that a large proportion of hisec residents are apathetic and/or lazy. Congrats on a successful op btw.
No you did not mention any one specific, I just thought you might appreciate my game play yesterday and thanks for the congrats, I was impressed with the freighter pilot, not many are like that which I agree with.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Solecist Project
32294
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Posted - 2016.08.21 14:21:21 -
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If everyone was ganking there, we'd all be there. Then everyone would be ganking and no one would be the ganked. So no one would be ganking, because everyone would be ganking.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Telegram Sam
Crom's Angels
1521
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Posted - 2016.08.21 14:38:33 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The main reason that gankers have an advantage is that people are apathetic and/or lazy. Yesterday I went out with some anti-gankers for some fun, first couple of hours was stopping a Vexor ganker from plying his trade, nothing was ganked while I was sitting there in a Phobus with his loot scooper pre-locked. After that I heard of an event in Mad, someone had got a warp in with a ganker with 1 ISK KR, so I went to kill him, but he went for a gank and someone took it... Then I went and sat in a station leaving my alt in Niarja, to find a blackbird pointing a Fenrrir, I jumped into a repping ship then headed there getting my alt into a rep ship too, then I called for a response. We got enough logi in system and on the freighter in time so that when the gank fleet came in the numbers were against them, then the person who was being bumped brought in DST's and a ton of logi. The gankers gave up having lost 4 Stealth Bombers warping around the system. The freighter pilot concerned made a healthy donation to the AG players who first reacted. Neither he or the AG players were apathetic or lazy, we congratulated him on his play, he played Eve perfectly... Did I mention anybody specific? Despite your little anecdote the fact remains that a large proportion of hisec residents are apathetic and/or lazy. Congrats on a successful op btw. No you did not mention any one specific, I just thought you might appreciate my game play yesterday and thanks for the congrats, I was impressed with the freighter pilot, not many are like that which I agree with. True, some freighter pilots are hard to assist, because they won't cooperate with the assist. It might be that they're panicked, or maybe they don't quite understand what's going on. Communicating with them can be hard too, because some won't accept chat requests. Which is understandable-- everybody is supposed to be paranoid in EVE.
Anyway, nice write up. Win or lose, AG vs. Ganker sports matches can be really fun for everybody. |
Solecist Project
32295
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Posted - 2016.08.21 14:45:14 -
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Solecist Project wrote:If everyone was ganking there, we'd all be there. Then everyone would be ganking and no one would be the ganked. So no one would be ganking, because everyone would be ganking.
When there is no one to gank, while everyone is ganking, then everyone is getting ganked.
Therefore everyone is the ganked.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Dark Lord Trump
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
84
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Posted - 2016.08.21 14:53:38 -
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Solecist Project wrote:If everyone was ganking there, we'd all be there. Then everyone would be ganking and no one would be the ganked. So no one would be ganking, because everyone would be ganking.
If everyone's a ganker, no one is.
I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
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Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
83
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Posted - 2016.08.21 15:44:55 -
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what is a ganker? i see only L33t pvpers. Pls no racism in highsec! |
Cien Banchiere
Extrinsic Arcadia Distribution
101
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Posted - 2016.08.21 16:45:18 -
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Do you drive through shifty, dangerous parts of your city when you know there is probably an alternate route? Just use your map. Problem fixed. |
Serene Repose
2763
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Posted - 2016.08.21 17:10:02 -
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LOL!! Best way to handle a chokepoint is to dissipate it, not consecrate it!
"CCP! There's an obvious chokepoint!! Let's enshrine it!!" (Heh...heh...heh...that way we can make all the freighters pay us protection money....why have the rest of the map?)
All through the day I Me Mine I Me Mine I Me Mine All through the night I Me Mine I Me Mine I Me Mine
We must accommodate the idiocracy.
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Solecist Project
32295
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Posted - 2016.08.21 17:25:34 -
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Dark Lord Trump wrote:Solecist Project wrote:If everyone was ganking there, we'd all be there. Then everyone would be ganking and no one would be the ganked. So no one would be ganking, because everyone would be ganking.
If everyone's a ganker, no one is. When everyone's a ganker, everyone's ganking gankers.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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TackyTachy1
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
96
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Posted - 2016.08.21 17:41:17 -
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Speaking of the Map I've been watching Uedama and the kills per last hour over there seem to always be off the scale. Thinking of taking my brand new, out of the box Noctis over there and do some salvaging but I've been tied up with other stuff so no go yet.
Ganking? I've been flying Skiffs with full Hammerhead loadouts and so far it's been me three gankers naught, but CCP gonna play with the barges so that could change.
Forum Rep for a bunch of characters, couple corps
and one seriously Lost In Space multiboxer.
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
4614
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Posted - 2016.08.21 18:24:59 -
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A Like for those ridiculous links!
Start the bubble machine!
-Lawrence Welk
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Chapo Muerte
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2016.08.21 20:57:02 -
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TackyTachy1 wrote:Speaking of the Map I've been watching Uedama and the kills per last hour over there seem to always be off the scale. Thinking of taking my brand new, out of the box Noctis over there and do some salvaging but I've been tied up with other stuff so no go yet.
Ganking? I've been flying Skiffs with full Hammerhead loadouts and so far it's been me three gankers naught, but CCP gonna play with the barges so that could change.
Your killboard says otherwise. |
Dom Arkaral
Bite the pillow
579
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Posted - 2016.08.21 23:40:33 -
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Chapo Muerte wrote:TackyTachy1 wrote:Speaking of the Map I've been watching Uedama and the kills per last hour over there seem to always be off the scale. Thinking of taking my brand new, out of the box Noctis over there and do some salvaging but I've been tied up with other stuff so no go yet.
Ganking? I've been flying Skiffs with full Hammerhead loadouts and so far it's been me three gankers naught, but CCP gonna play with the barges so that could change. Your killboard says otherwise. must be "on his powerful nullsec alt" XD How is it that pretty much everything AG says ends up being total lies?
And creating a chokepoint between hubs would be funny to see... just imagina all the supercap gatecamps on those gates XD But yeah great idea lmao
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Solecist Project
32303
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Posted - 2016.08.22 00:03:21 -
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Chapo Muerte wrote:TackyTachy1 wrote:Speaking of the Map I've been watching Uedama and the kills per last hour over there seem to always be off the scale. Thinking of taking my brand new, out of the box Noctis over there and do some salvaging but I've been tied up with other stuff so no go yet.
Ganking? I've been flying Skiffs with full Hammerhead loadouts and so far it's been me three gankers naught, but CCP gonna play with the barges so that could change. Your killboard says otherwise. You could at least try to hide yourself ...
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
832
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Posted - 2016.08.22 01:35:13 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Chapo Muerte wrote:TackyTachy1 wrote:Speaking of the Map I've been watching Uedama and the kills per last hour over there seem to always be off the scale. Thinking of taking my brand new, out of the box Noctis over there and do some salvaging but I've been tied up with other stuff so no go yet.
Ganking? I've been flying Skiffs with full Hammerhead loadouts and so far it's been me three gankers naught, but CCP gonna play with the barges so that could change. Your killboard says otherwise. You could at least try to hide yourself ... But this portrait is from the other side of the face and with a different background.
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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Zanar Skwigelf
Boa Innovations Brothers of Tangra
12
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Posted - 2016.08.22 02:04:32 -
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As long as there is a continuous high sec route between trade hubs making these 2 systems low sec does nothing. AG might as well move to Tama and Rancer to save all those freighters. |
Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X
575
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Posted - 2016.08.22 04:26:14 -
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Changing highsec into lowsec.....LOL !
oh you were serious.......
Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
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Lan Wang
C.Q.B Snuffed Out
3397
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Posted - 2016.08.22 10:22:07 -
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Also move Tama just a couple of jumps closer to jita and that'd be great
Loyalist to Angel Cartel
Your killboard reads like a "how to get farmed 101" - Noah Reese
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Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
0
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Posted - 2016.08.22 14:04:01 -
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Great thread! Goin' places! :D |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1167
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Posted - 2016.08.22 15:10:25 -
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Zanar Skwigelf wrote:As long as there is a continuous high sec route between trade hubs making these 2 systems low sec does nothing. AG might as well move to Tama and Rancer to save all those freighters.
Agreed. It won't change anything. People will either circle the long way around or use citadel's and jump freighters to pass quickly through these systems.
Plus think of all the concord npcs who would be out of a job!
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Lan Wang
C.Q.B Snuffed Out
3398
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Posted - 2016.08.22 15:37:20 -
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Zanar Skwigelf wrote:As long as there is a continuous high sec route between trade hubs making these 2 systems low sec does nothing. AG might as well move to Tama and Rancer to save all those freighters.
that would be funny, wouldnt be much saving happening though
Loyalist to Angel Cartel
Your killboard reads like a "how to get farmed 101" - Noah Reese
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