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Callitari Mundani
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2016.08.21 13:39:13 -
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Hello,
Niarja & Uedama are "Hi-sec systems", there is already too much ganking around which limits the anti-ganker pilots to reactive actions, I suggest we do these systems lowsec so we could have fun all day long.
Everybody is ganking there, using the stations freely without any issues, sec status is non-sense - let's have a brawl! Cut the hisec connections between the market hubs, that would be GREAT fun! It will open full range of new possibilities for gankers / anti-gankers alike.
Haulers could start to pay for protection, make alliances, etc ...
Using the current configuration, gankers are in a great advantage - time to reballance that! |
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
823
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Posted - 2016.08.21 13:41:32 -
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Yeah not going to happen.
Highsec's for everyone, including the routes between trade hubs.
IB4L
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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Callitari Mundani
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2016.08.21 13:44:27 -
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Lowsec systems are for everyone aswell, making two systems lowsec doesn't mean that theyt won't be for everyone anymore. Your argument is illogical. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
26626
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Posted - 2016.08.21 13:45:32 -
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The main reason that gankers have an advantage is that people are apathetic and/or lazy.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
824
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Posted - 2016.08.21 13:45:57 -
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Callitari Mundani wrote:Lowsec systems are for everyone aswell, making two systems lowsec doesn't mean that won't be for everyone anymore. Your argument is illogical.
Yeah, there's tonnes of freighters moving through lowsec systems.
This is just a stupid thread.
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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Hengle Teron
Order In Disorder
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
60509
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Posted - 2016.08.21 13:53:08 -
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Anti-ganker calling for a highsec system to be turned lowsec...  Now I've seen it all. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Second-Dawn
2275
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Posted - 2016.08.21 13:58:43 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The main reason that gankers have an advantage is that people are apathetic and/or lazy.
Yesterday I went out with some anti-gankers for some fun, first couple of hours was stopping a Vexor ganker from plying his trade, nothing was ganked while I was sitting there in a Phobus with his loot scooper pre-locked.
After that I heard of an event in Mad, someone had got a warp in with a ganker with 1 ISK KR, so I went to kill him, but he went for a gank and someone took it...
Then I went and sat in a station leaving my alt in Niarja, to find a blackbird pointing a Fenrrir, I jumped into a repping ship then headed there getting my alt into a rep ship too, then I called for a response. We got enough logi in system and on the freighter in time so that when the gank fleet came in the numbers were against them, then the person who was being bumped brought in DST's and a ton of logi. The gankers gave up having lost 4 Stealth Bombers warping around the system. The freighter pilot concerned made a healthy donation to the AG players who first reacted.
Neither he or the AG players were apathetic or lazy, we congratulated him on his play, he played Eve perfectly...
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
447
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Posted - 2016.08.21 14:06:12 -
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I like the idea of a decentralized New Eden so making each trade hub or empire region its own high sec island could be pretty cool
Nerf Jita!
@lunettelulu7
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
26626
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Posted - 2016.08.21 14:06:14 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The main reason that gankers have an advantage is that people are apathetic and/or lazy. Yesterday I went out with some anti-gankers for some fun, first couple of hours was stopping a Vexor ganker from plying his trade, nothing was ganked while I was sitting there in a Phobus with his loot scooper pre-locked. After that I heard of an event in Mad, someone had got a warp in with a ganker with 1 ISK KR, so I went to kill him, but he went for a gank and someone took it... Then I went and sat in a station leaving my alt in Niarja, to find a blackbird pointing a Fenrrir, I jumped into a repping ship then headed there getting my alt into a rep ship too, then I called for a response. We got enough logi in system and on the freighter in time so that when the gank fleet came in the numbers were against them, then the person who was being bumped brought in DST's and a ton of logi. The gankers gave up having lost 4 Stealth Bombers warping around the system. The freighter pilot concerned made a healthy donation to the AG players who first reacted. Neither he or the AG players were apathetic or lazy, we congratulated him on his play, he played Eve perfectly... Did I mention anybody specific?
Despite your little anecdote the fact remains that a large proportion of hisec residents are apathetic and/or lazy.
Congrats on a successful op btw.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Second-Dawn
2275
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Posted - 2016.08.21 14:10:16 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The main reason that gankers have an advantage is that people are apathetic and/or lazy. Yesterday I went out with some anti-gankers for some fun, first couple of hours was stopping a Vexor ganker from plying his trade, nothing was ganked while I was sitting there in a Phobus with his loot scooper pre-locked. After that I heard of an event in Mad, someone had got a warp in with a ganker with 1 ISK KR, so I went to kill him, but he went for a gank and someone took it... Then I went and sat in a station leaving my alt in Niarja, to find a blackbird pointing a Fenrrir, I jumped into a repping ship then headed there getting my alt into a rep ship too, then I called for a response. We got enough logi in system and on the freighter in time so that when the gank fleet came in the numbers were against them, then the person who was being bumped brought in DST's and a ton of logi. The gankers gave up having lost 4 Stealth Bombers warping around the system. The freighter pilot concerned made a healthy donation to the AG players who first reacted. Neither he or the AG players were apathetic or lazy, we congratulated him on his play, he played Eve perfectly... Did I mention anybody specific? Despite your little anecdote the fact remains that a large proportion of hisec residents are apathetic and/or lazy. Congrats on a successful op btw.
No you did not mention any one specific, I just thought you might appreciate my game play yesterday and thanks for the congrats, I was impressed with the freighter pilot, not many are like that which I agree with.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Solecist Project
32294
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Posted - 2016.08.21 14:21:21 -
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If everyone was ganking there, we'd all be there.
Then everyone would be ganking and no one would be the ganked.
So no one would be ganking, because everyone would be ganking.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Telegram Sam
Crom's Angels
1521
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Posted - 2016.08.21 14:38:33 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The main reason that gankers have an advantage is that people are apathetic and/or lazy. Yesterday I went out with some anti-gankers for some fun, first couple of hours was stopping a Vexor ganker from plying his trade, nothing was ganked while I was sitting there in a Phobus with his loot scooper pre-locked. After that I heard of an event in Mad, someone had got a warp in with a ganker with 1 ISK KR, so I went to kill him, but he went for a gank and someone took it... Then I went and sat in a station leaving my alt in Niarja, to find a blackbird pointing a Fenrrir, I jumped into a repping ship then headed there getting my alt into a rep ship too, then I called for a response. We got enough logi in system and on the freighter in time so that when the gank fleet came in the numbers were against them, then the person who was being bumped brought in DST's and a ton of logi. The gankers gave up having lost 4 Stealth Bombers warping around the system. The freighter pilot concerned made a healthy donation to the AG players who first reacted. Neither he or the AG players were apathetic or lazy, we congratulated him on his play, he played Eve perfectly... Did I mention anybody specific? Despite your little anecdote the fact remains that a large proportion of hisec residents are apathetic and/or lazy. Congrats on a successful op btw. No you did not mention any one specific, I just thought you might appreciate my game play yesterday and thanks for the congrats, I was impressed with the freighter pilot, not many are like that which I agree with.
True, some freighter pilots are hard to assist, because they won't cooperate with the assist. It might be that they're panicked, or maybe they don't quite understand what's going on. Communicating with them can be hard too, because some won't accept chat requests. Which is understandable-- everybody is supposed to be paranoid in EVE.
Anyway, nice write up. Win or lose, AG vs. Ganker sports matches can be really fun for everybody. |
Solecist Project
32295
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Posted - 2016.08.21 14:45:14 -
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Solecist Project wrote:If everyone was ganking there, we'd all be there.
Then everyone would be ganking and no one would be the ganked.
So no one would be ganking, because everyone would be ganking.
When there is no one to gank, while everyone is ganking, then everyone is getting ganked.
Therefore everyone is the ganked.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Dark Lord Trump
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
84
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Posted - 2016.08.21 14:53:38 -
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Solecist Project wrote:If everyone was ganking there, we'd all be there.
Then everyone would be ganking and no one would be the ganked.
So no one would be ganking, because everyone would be ganking.
If everyone's a ganker, no one is.
I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
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Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
83
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Posted - 2016.08.21 15:44:55 -
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what is a ganker?
i see only L33t pvpers. Pls no racism in highsec!  |
Cien Banchiere
Extrinsic Arcadia Distribution
101
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Posted - 2016.08.21 16:45:18 -
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Do you drive through shifty, dangerous parts of your city when you know there is probably an alternate route? Just use your map. Problem fixed. |
Serene Repose
2763
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Posted - 2016.08.21 17:10:02 -
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LOL!! Best way to handle a chokepoint is to dissipate it, not consecrate it!
"CCP! There's an obvious chokepoint!! Let's enshrine it!!"
(Heh...heh...heh...that way we can make all the freighters pay us protection money....why have the rest of the map?)
All through the day I Me Mine I Me Mine I Me Mine
All through the night I Me Mine I Me Mine I Me Mine
We must accommodate the idiocracy.
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Solecist Project
32295
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Posted - 2016.08.21 17:25:34 -
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Dark Lord Trump wrote:Solecist Project wrote:If everyone was ganking there, we'd all be there.
Then everyone would be ganking and no one would be the ganked.
So no one would be ganking, because everyone would be ganking.
If everyone's a ganker, no one is.
When everyone's a ganker, everyone's ganking gankers.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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TackyTachy1
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
96
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Posted - 2016.08.21 17:41:17 -
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Speaking of the Map I've been watching Uedama and the kills per last hour over there seem to always be off the scale. Thinking of taking my brand new, out of the box Noctis over there and do some salvaging but I've been tied up with other stuff so no go yet.
Ganking? I've been flying Skiffs with full Hammerhead loadouts and so far it's been me three gankers naught, but CCP gonna play with the barges so that could change.
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
4614
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Posted - 2016.08.21 18:24:59 -
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A Like for those ridiculous links!
Start the bubble machine!
-Lawrence Welk
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Chapo Muerte
The Conference Elite
CODE.
0
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Posted - 2016.08.21 20:57:02 -
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TackyTachy1 wrote:Speaking of the Map I've been watching Uedama and the kills per last hour over there seem to always be off the scale. Thinking of taking my brand new, out of the box Noctis over there and do some salvaging but I've been tied up with other stuff so no go yet.
Ganking? I've been flying Skiffs with full Hammerhead loadouts and so far it's been me three gankers naught, but CCP gonna play with the barges so that could change.
Your killboard says otherwise. |
Dom Arkaral
Bite the pillow
579
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Posted - 2016.08.21 23:40:33 -
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Chapo Muerte wrote:TackyTachy1 wrote:Speaking of the Map I've been watching Uedama and the kills per last hour over there seem to always be off the scale. Thinking of taking my brand new, out of the box Noctis over there and do some salvaging but I've been tied up with other stuff so no go yet.
Ganking? I've been flying Skiffs with full Hammerhead loadouts and so far it's been me three gankers naught, but CCP gonna play with the barges so that could change. Your killboard says otherwise.
must be "on his powerful nullsec alt"
XD
How is it that pretty much everything AG says ends up being total lies?
And creating a chokepoint between hubs would be funny to see... just imagina all the supercap gatecamps on those gates XD
But yeah great idea lmao
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Solecist Project
32303
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Posted - 2016.08.22 00:03:21 -
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Chapo Muerte wrote:TackyTachy1 wrote:Speaking of the Map I've been watching Uedama and the kills per last hour over there seem to always be off the scale. Thinking of taking my brand new, out of the box Noctis over there and do some salvaging but I've been tied up with other stuff so no go yet.
Ganking? I've been flying Skiffs with full Hammerhead loadouts and so far it's been me three gankers naught, but CCP gonna play with the barges so that could change. Your killboard says otherwise.
You could at least try to hide yourself ... 
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
832
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Posted - 2016.08.22 01:35:13 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Chapo Muerte wrote:TackyTachy1 wrote:Speaking of the Map I've been watching Uedama and the kills per last hour over there seem to always be off the scale. Thinking of taking my brand new, out of the box Noctis over there and do some salvaging but I've been tied up with other stuff so no go yet.
Ganking? I've been flying Skiffs with full Hammerhead loadouts and so far it's been me three gankers naught, but CCP gonna play with the barges so that could change. Your killboard says otherwise. You could at least try to hide yourself ...
But this portrait is from the other side of the face and with a different background.
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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Zanar Skwigelf
Boa Innovations
Brothers of Tangra
12
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Posted - 2016.08.22 02:04:32 -
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As long as there is a continuous high sec route between trade hubs making these 2 systems low sec does nothing. AG might as well move to Tama and Rancer to save all those freighters. |
Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X
575
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Posted - 2016.08.22 04:26:14 -
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Changing highsec into lowsec.....LOL !
oh you were serious.......
Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
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Lan Wang
C.Q.B
Snuffed Out
3397
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Posted - 2016.08.22 10:22:07 -
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Also move Tama just a couple of jumps closer to jita and that'd be great
Loyalist to Angel Cartel
Your killboard reads like a "how to get farmed 101" - Noah Reese
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Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
0
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Posted - 2016.08.22 14:04:01 -
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Great thread! Goin' places! :D |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
1167
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Posted - 2016.08.22 15:10:25 -
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Zanar Skwigelf wrote:As long as there is a continuous high sec route between trade hubs making these 2 systems low sec does nothing. AG might as well move to Tama and Rancer to save all those freighters.
Agreed. It won't change anything. People will either circle the long way around or use citadel's and jump freighters to pass quickly through these systems.
Plus think of all the concord npcs who would be out of a job!
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Lan Wang
C.Q.B
Snuffed Out
3398
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Posted - 2016.08.22 15:37:20 -
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Zanar Skwigelf wrote:As long as there is a continuous high sec route between trade hubs making these 2 systems low sec does nothing. AG might as well move to Tama and Rancer to save all those freighters.
that would be funny, wouldnt be much saving happening though
Loyalist to Angel Cartel
Your killboard reads like a "how to get farmed 101" - Noah Reese
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Elenahina
agony unleashed
Agony Empire
1033
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Posted - 2016.08.22 18:24:30 -
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Solecist Project wrote:If everyone was ganking there, we'd all be there.
Then everyone would be ganking and no one would be the ganked.
So no one would be ganking, because everyone would be ganking.
<3 this
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
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Pandora Carrollon
Dawn of a New Horizon
The Republic.
579
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Posted - 2016.08.22 19:25:55 -
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The OP's fundamental logic doesn't bear out, in several ways that had been stated. However, one thing to keep in mind:
If everyone is having fun ganking and counter ganking, (I flew the Ikao > Uedama route last night and there were about 100 Concord on the gate, or it was a SEA of them so something big happened) then I suggest that content was had, people played and the systems worked perfectly by design.
Now, if you want to re-do the entire game, put DMZ's of Null Sec around all the Empires and see what fun that creates...
Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game
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Dornier Pfeil
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2016.08.22 19:48:20 -
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Callitari Mundani wrote:Hello,
Niarja & Uedama are "Hi-sec systems", there is already too much ganking around which limits the anti-ganker pilots to reactive actions, I suggest we do these systems lowsec so we could have fun all day long.
Everybody is ganking there, using the stations freely without any issues, sec status is non-sense - let's have a brawl! Cut the hisec connections between the market hubs, that would be GREAT fun! It will open full range of new possibilities for gankers / anti-gankers alike.
Haulers could start to pay for protection, make alliances, etc ...
Using the current configuration, gankers are in a great advantage - time to reballance that!
Why don't we just get rid of all of Empire space altogether. Null Everywhere! After all we wouldn't want your SecStat to suffer being proactive and all. |
Pandora Carrollon
Dawn of a New Horizon
The Republic.
590
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Posted - 2016.08.23 15:24:47 -
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Dornier Pfeil wrote:Why don't we just get rid of all of Empire space altogether. Null Everywhere! After all we wouldn't want your SecStat to suffer being proactive and all.
Certainly something that has been said before, but if you think what that will do to the player base, you might be unhappy with the results of that proposition. You'd lose at least 25% of the player base overnight, probably more.
Less than half of the current HiSec population probably would be willing to make that adjustment. They are in HiSec for a reason. It doesn't exist for giggles.
LoSec also serves a purpose. It allows for relatively safe transport of goods while still allowing good ship to ship PvP off the gates and stations. The LoSec population would more easily adjust to such a change but even then, you'd be wiping out several current play styles.
Null is the wild west and it's all about player control.
So, I don't think you'll be seeing the security zones drop any time soon.
Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game
-- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
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HeXxploiT
Little Red X
233
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Posted - 2016.08.24 00:51:43 -
[35] - Quote
Callitari Mundani wrote:Hello,
Niarja & Uedama are "Hi-sec systems", there is already too much ganking around which limits the anti-ganker pilots to reactive actions, I suggest we do these systems lowsec so we could have fun all day long.
Everybody is ganking there, using the stations freely without any issues, sec status is non-sense - let's have a brawl! Cut the hisec connections between the market hubs, that would be GREAT fun! It will open full range of new possibilities for gankers / anti-gankers alike.
Haulers could start to pay for protection, make alliances, etc ...
Using the current configuration, gankers are in a great advantage - time to reballance that!
Gankers don't pvp they gank. Make it lowsec and they'll all just move to other highsec systems. |
TackyTachy1
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
97
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Posted - 2016.08.24 02:12:42 -
[36] - Quote
Chapo Muerte wrote:TackyTachy1 wrote:Speaking of the Map I've been watching Uedama and the kills per last hour over there seem to always be off the scale. Thinking of taking my brand new, out of the box Noctis over there and do some salvaging but I've been tied up with other stuff so no go yet.
Ganking? I've been flying Skiffs with full Hammerhead loadouts and so far it's been me three gankers naught, but CCP gonna play with the barges so that could change. Your killboard says otherwise.
Apparently you didn't read the part where it says "Designated rep for....,
TT1 is my forium alt and his killboard (or lack thereof) has nothing to do with the rest of the crew. Other characters, kills, location, all that is intel, classified and you don't get to see all that. Next time read the sig, or not. Thing about ganking is if you don't like them there are numerous quiet little systems with belts heavy with ore bearing asteroids, with nary a ganker in sight. But you gotta look, and be prepared to move on if/when they show up. Either that or just blow'em to hell up.
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Caleb Seremshur
Black Scorpions Inc
Infensus
839
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Posted - 2016.08.24 02:35:01 -
[37] - Quote
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Yeah not going to happen.
Highsec's for everyone, including the routes between trade hubs.
IB4L
That's incredibly weak reasoning and I see no reason to believe that caldari and gallente would share a hisec border at all considering the state of blackrise and placid.
But you do what does you m8. |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
3544
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Posted - 2016.08.24 03:05:04 -
[38] - Quote
Lulu Lunette wrote:I like the idea of a decentralized New Eden so making each trade hub or empire region its own high sec island could be pretty cool
Nerf Jita!
This would actually buff Jita, and kill all the other hubs. And everyone would live in Caldari highsec.
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
869
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Posted - 2016.08.24 07:14:47 -
[39] - Quote
Caleb Seremshur wrote:Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Yeah not going to happen.
Highsec's for everyone, including the routes between trade hubs.
IB4L That's incredibly weak reasoning and I see no reason to believe that caldari and gallente would share a hisec border at all considering the state of blackrise and placid. But you do what does you m8.
You're right, lore should totally dominate gameplay and AG types like the OP should totally expect that CCP change highsec systems used by others, into lowsec systems because they request it without thinking about how it wouldn't actually benefit them.
Totally.
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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Solecist Project
32392
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Posted - 2016.08.24 11:53:43 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Caleb Seremshur wrote:Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Yeah not going to happen.
Highsec's for everyone, including the routes between trade hubs.
IB4L That's incredibly weak reasoning and I see no reason to believe that caldari and gallente would share a hisec border at all considering the state of blackrise and placid. But you do what does you m8. You're right, lore should totally dominate gameplay and AG types like the OP should totally expect that CCP change highsec systems used by others, into lowsec systems because they request it without thinking about how it wouldn't actually benefit them. Totally.
I honestly doubt it's an antiganker. The name "antiganker" is, btw, hilarious. ^_^
Even if, i doubt he actually understands what he asks for.
It would be a slaughterhouse.
Gates permacamped.
It would be glorious!
... and they'd be sitting in stations chestbeating ...
... just like they do on forums ...
... while everyone else ******* dies! 
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
8 Golden Rules of EVE
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
5801
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Posted - 2016.08.24 14:04:53 -
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Callitari Mundani wrote:Hello,
Niarja & Uedama are "Hi-sec systems", there is already too much ganking around which limits the anti-ganker pilots to reactive actions, I suggest we do these systems lowsec so we could have fun all day long.
Everybody is ganking there, using the stations freely without any issues, sec status is non-sense - let's have a brawl! Cut the hisec connections between the market hubs, that would be GREAT fun! It will open full range of new possibilities for gankers / anti-gankers alike.
Haulers could start to pay for protection, make alliances, etc ...
Using the current configuration, gankers are in a great advantage - time to reballance that!
When I come back from other sci-fi games to check EvE... I always wonder (since 9 years now!)... how in HELL could a self-proclaimed SANDBOX MMO have NPCs dictating how to play in every solar system?
Who's the "differently-smart" guy who even invented this dumb idea?
I am still of the same idea I posted years ago in the (strictly to ignore) "ideas" subforum: EvE needs no "sec", danger or lack thereof should come from players across the whole universe, except maybe 1 "heaven" strictly ZERO kill starter system where to learn the first 30 minutes of gameplay. Then off you go, brave newbie, into a dangerous, huge new world.
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March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron
The-Culture
1876
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Posted - 2016.08.24 14:10:53 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Even if, i doubt he actually understands what he asks for. It would be a slaughterhouse. Gates permacamped. It would be glorious! ... and they'd be sitting in stations chestbeating ... ... just like they do on forums ... ... while everyone else ******* dies!
In reality what will happen:
- regular freighters will be only used for intra-high-sec deliveries
- all inter-zone couriers will be done with JFs, using closest high-sec stations to transfer cargo between freighters and JFs.
- given route will not be used at all
And effects:
- courier prices will grow
- amount of killed freighters in high-sec will fall
- amount of killed JFs in low-sec will grow a little (those guys know their stuff)
- ... ?
Actually it is not at all what OP predicts.
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Riverwind Malukker
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2016.08.24 15:39:47 -
[43] - Quote
Maybe we should just make Jita and Amarr low secs? That way everyone can just use their jump freighters to cyno onto the station and dock up. And if you need to go shopping just ask your buddy to log in his Titan to bridge you to the trade station.
I think this is a great idea, CCPlease? |
Omar Alharazaad
Nefarious Porpoise
3072
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Posted - 2016.08.24 16:22:37 -
[44] - Quote
Riverwind Malukker wrote:Maybe we should just make Jita and Amarr low secs? That way everyone can just use their jump freighters to cyno onto the station and dock up. And if you need to go shopping just ask your buddy to log in his Titan to bridge you to the trade station.
I think this is a great idea, CCPlease?
Oh god yes please do this.
The tsunami of tears would be epic.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
637
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Posted - 2016.08.24 16:26:52 -
[45] - Quote
Omar Alharazaad wrote:Riverwind Malukker wrote:Maybe we should just make Jita and Amarr low secs? That way everyone can just use their jump freighters to cyno onto the station and dock up. And if you need to go shopping just ask your buddy to log in his Titan to bridge you to the trade station.
I think this is a great idea, CCPlease? Oh god yes please do this. The tsunami of tears would be epic.
Just make sure there is no warning - we don't want those market noobs to shift their assets before the sec status protections go away.
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
112
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Posted - 2016.08.24 16:28:13 -
[46] - Quote
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:Riverwind Malukker wrote:Maybe we should just make Jita and Amarr low secs? That way everyone can just use their jump freighters to cyno onto the station and dock up. And if you need to go shopping just ask your buddy to log in his Titan to bridge you to the trade station.
I think this is a great idea, CCPlease? Oh god yes please do this. The tsunami of tears would be epic. Just make sure there is no warning - we don't want those market noobs to shift their assets before the sec status protections go away.
tomorrow then? at DT |
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
638
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Posted - 2016.08.24 16:58:48 -
[47] - Quote
Soel Reit wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:Riverwind Malukker wrote:Maybe we should just make Jita and Amarr low secs? That way everyone can just use their jump freighters to cyno onto the station and dock up. And if you need to go shopping just ask your buddy to log in his Titan to bridge you to the trade station.
I think this is a great idea, CCPlease? Oh god yes please do this. The tsunami of tears would be epic. Just make sure there is no warning - we don't want those market noobs to shift their assets before the sec status protections go away. tomorrow then? at DT
Sounds like a plan.
One way or another - we can be sure that if CCP acts on this swiftly nobody will consider Ganking to be "the biggest" problem in EVE come tomorrow after DT o7
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Galaxy Mule
New Order Logistics
CODE.
8
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Posted - 2016.08.24 19:33:52 -
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\o/ posting in a stealth CODE. hate thread! |
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
641
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Posted - 2016.08.24 19:36:40 -
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Galaxy Mule wrote:\o/ posting in a stealth CODE. hate thread!
The OP said it was because you gank there too much - how is that stealthy? 
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Solecist Project
32427
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Posted - 2016.08.24 21:22:13 -
[50] - Quote
March rabbit wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Even if, i doubt he actually understands what he asks for. It would be a slaughterhouse. Gates permacamped. It would be glorious! ... and they'd be sitting in stations chestbeating ... ... just like they do on forums ... ... while everyone else ******* dies! In reality what will happen: - regular freighters will be only used for intra-high-sec deliveries - all inter-zone couriers will be done with JFs, using closest high-sec stations to transfer cargo between freighters and JFs. - given route will not be used at all And effects: - courier prices will grow - amount of killed freighters in high-sec will fall - amount of killed JFs in low-sec will grow a little (those guys know their stuff) - ... ? Actually it is not at all what OP predicts.
but i want it! wantitwantitwantit!
I-¦m having the Wantsies, omg. :O
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
8 Golden Rules of EVE
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
2702
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Posted - 2016.08.25 05:33:59 -
[51] - Quote
3/10 for getting 3 pages. I don't believe even AG is so one-dimensional to not immediately see the problem with this idea.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony
The Wraithguard.
659
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Posted - 2016.08.25 05:47:23 -
[52] - Quote
Welcome back Ima  |
Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony
The Wraithguard.
659
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Posted - 2016.08.25 05:50:27 -
[53] - Quote
Callitari Mundani wrote:Hello,
Niarja & Uedama are "Hi-sec systems", there is already too much ganking around which limits the anti-ganker pilots to reactive actions, I suggest we do these systems lowsec so we could have fun all day long.
Everybody is ganking there, using the stations freely without any issues, sec status is non-sense - let's have a brawl! Cut the hisec connections between the market hubs, that would be GREAT fun! It will open full range of new possibilities for gankers / anti-gankers alike.
Haulers could start to pay for protection, make alliances, etc ...
Using the current configuration, gankers are in a great advantage - time to reballance that!
Actually, we'd just jumpfreighter from Jita/Amarr to Uedama station, and warp back to the safety of highsec from there.
It'd be even easier LOL |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
2703
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Posted - 2016.08.25 05:50:56 -
[54] - Quote
Brokk Witgenstein wrote:Welcome back Ima
Thanks Brokk 
Will try to behave myself this time around
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Solecist Project
32452
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Posted - 2016.08.25 08:56:22 -
[55] - Quote
Ima Wreckyou wrote:Brokk Witgenstein wrote:Welcome back Ima Thanks Brokk Will try to behave myself this time around I've noticed your absence!
Did you get the B?
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
8 Golden Rules of EVE
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Yarosara Ruil
537
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Posted - 2016.08.25 09:58:24 -
[56] - Quote
On one hand, it doesn't make sense to have a choke point in Uedema without an alternative route within Highsec.
On the other hand, it is after all the Caldari-Galente border, and it is completely logical for it to be a den of scum and villainy in a system that everyone needs to go through on their way to Jita.
CODE are not pirates, they are highway men! Now everything makes sense, forever! |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
2705
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Posted - 2016.08.25 15:54:15 -
[57] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:
I've noticed your absence!
Did you get the B?
Yeah, I was a naughty girl Got some time to cool off
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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erg cz
Eleutherian Guard
Villore Accords
477
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Posted - 2016.08.25 16:17:13 -
[58] - Quote
Add all bordering systems to faction warfare. Yes, including Jita itself (its only 2 jumps from gallente territory anyway)
From what I know, FW overhaul will make the war 4-sided, so even caldari will fight amarr, so Niarja and Kaaputenen will also become low sec.
But that all belongs to "suggestions" section of the forums.
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Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions
404 Hole Not Found
1699
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Posted - 2016.08.25 17:11:46 -
[59] - Quote
I can only see one reason why this person wants this to happen.
So he can smartbomb catalyst blobs without being concorded XD |
Merchant Rova
Pathway to the Next
2
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Posted - 2016.08.25 17:31:44 -
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this is a bad thread
"Haulers could start to pay for protection, make alliances, etc ... " will never happen. People say it will happen, but it never does
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