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Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 892	Posted - 2016.08.26 07:15:49 - [121] - Quote Serene Repose wrote: Only thing that makes these forums horrible are REDDIT people posting here. You REDDITs stay home, you'll never know the difference, but we certainly will. TYVM in advance. You read this Mike, Chribba and Steve Ronuken. Leave this instant. No Mike Azariah's, Chribba's or Steve Ronuken's allowed. Chribba, as you are even a moderator of /r/eve, that must make you literally the worst ever. All you devs too. No posting here if you post on r/eve. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 2706	Posted - 2016.08.26 07:17:19 - [122] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: Not sure if they cleaned it up but forums here were full of hateful spiteful people who were never reined in when breaking rules or making disgusting personal attacks on others. At least on Reddit there is some semblance of control. They also dont arbitrarily lock posts if they dont personally agree with the thread. The irony... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=337596 the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Mephiztopheleze Laphroaig Inc. 899	Posted - 2016.08.26 07:34:49 - [123] - Quote my $0.02: 'General Discussion' subforums on any game's official forums tends to be a hive of trolls and whingers. Nothing new there. In fact, official games forums tend to be rather mundane place for most games in my experience. Now, the NCQ&A subforum here at EVE-O is, imho, a terrific resource for new and veteran players alike. Trolling is kept to a minimum, and players will often call out a troll before the ISDs need to rouse from their slumber. There's plenty of super-helpful posters that will happily and gladly answer the noob'est of inquiries with some wit and accurate information. Huge shoutouts here to Ralph King Griffin, Feyd Rautha Harkonnen and Tau Calabander in particular. NCQ&A represents some of the best posting EVE has to offer. Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 44967	Posted - 2016.08.26 07:42:48 - [124] - Quote Mephiztopheleze wrote: my $0.02: 'General Discussion' subforums on any game's official forums tends to be a hive of trolls and whingers. Nothing new there. In fact, official games forums tend to be rather mundane place for most games in my experience. Now, the NCQ&A subforum here at EVE-O is, imho, a terrific resource for new and veteran players alike. Trolling is kept to a minimum, and players will often call out a troll before the ISDs need to rouse from their slumber. There's plenty of super-helpful posters that will happily and gladly answer the noob'est of inquiries with some wit and accurate information. Huge shoutouts here to Ralph King Griffin, Feyd Rautha Harkonnen and Tau Calabander in particular. NCQ&A represents some of the best posting EVE has to offer. I think I wrote it earlier in the thread, but if not - I think the word troll is overused here, especially in GD. Troll seems to be a word rolled out everytime someone has a different opinion: "don't agree with me, you're just a troll". By the same thinking, if someone is a troll for having an opinion, then the person using the word must also be a troll, because they have an opinion too. I think it's one of those things of the internet. It's easy to throw insults at people, because no thought is involved. However, as soon as a few moments are taken to think about something, other people's opinions start to make sense (within limits anyway). I only play Eve, so can't really comment on other forums, however as far as GD goes, I've always found it to be one of the best places to have a good discussion here. There aren't too many trolls at all and the ones that do appear tend to only last a short while. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire 15510	Posted - 2016.08.26 08:50:15 - [125] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Serene Repose wrote: Only thing that makes these forums horrible are REDDIT people posting here. You REDDITs stay home, you'll never know the difference, but we certainly will. TYVM in advance. You read this Mike, Chribba and Steve Ronuken. Leave this instant. No Mike Azariah's, Chribba's or Steve Ronuken's allowed. Chribba, as you are even a moderator of /r/eve, that must make you literally the worst ever. All you devs too. No posting here if you post on r/eve. I'm using up my weekly quota with this post! GÿàGÿàGÿà Secure 3rd party service GÿàGÿàGÿà Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' Twitter @Chribba

Serene Repose 2784	Posted - 2016.08.26 08:51:19 - [126] - Quote Chribba wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Serene Repose wrote: Only thing that makes these forums horrible are REDDIT people posting here. You REDDITs stay home, you'll never know the difference, but we certainly will. TYVM in advance. You read this Mike, Chribba and Steve Ronuken. Leave this instant. No Mike Azariah's, Chribba's or Steve Ronuken's allowed. Chribba, as you are even a moderator of /r/eve, that must make you literally the worst ever. All you devs too. No posting here if you post on r/eve. I'm using up my weekly quota with this post! Grrrrrrrr We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 17737	Posted - 2016.08.26 09:16:16 - [127] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: I think it's one of those things of the internet. It's easy to throw insults at people, because no thought is required, and when we are playing games or browsing websites, serious thought is a bit removed from what we want to do. We do enough of that in daily life. However, as soon as a few moments are taken to think about something, other people's opinions start to make sense (within limits anyway). And then you can tailor a really funny insult that's both topical and relevant E.G. Infinity Ziona wrote: Not sure if they cleaned it up but forums here were full of hateful spiteful people who were never reined in when breaking rules or making disgusting personal attacks on others. At least on Reddit there is some semblance of control. They also dont arbitrarily lock posts if they dont personally agree with the thread. I think you just bring that out in us. =]\|[=
Solecist Project 32520	Posted - 2016.08.26 10:39:16 - [128] - Quote Well, there goes my forum free day, but I`LL KEEP IT SHORT ... Am i the only one who ever wondered why someone would want a profile pic that looks like a 20 year old woman crying and her face looking like "please stop" ? That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia 8 Golden Rules of EVE
Serene Repose 2785	Posted - 2016.08.26 10:40:42 - [129] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: Not sure if they cleaned it up but forums here were full of hateful spiteful people who were never reined in when breaking rules or making disgusting personal attacks on others. At least on Reddit there is some semblance of control. They also dont arbitrarily lock posts if they dont personally agree with the thread. I'm sorry but there isn't a shred of truth to this set of assertions. And as for Reddit's pristine reputation, they'll forever be remembered in the annals (-us?) of history as the site that ruined the lives of two innocent people 'cause they're just so smart and can track down the Boston Marathon Bombers just by posting innuendo, rumor and supposition convincingly back and forth to one another - unabated. ISD's don't have to use their personal opinions, and to tell you the truth, not much is posted here where opinion makes much difference. Where opinion is relevant to the game, threads are unmolested - except by the posters. Furthermore, to assert there are fewer internet jerks, functional illiterates, mannerless and ill-behaved people on Reddit is an out and out lie. TYVM. Have a nice day! We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Solecist Project 32520	Posted - 2016.08.26 10:48:37 - [130] - Quote Alternatively it could be a face of a drug abuser needing more. Still, why the **** would someone want that? That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia 8 Golden Rules of EVE

Lulu Lunette Savage Moon Society 480	Posted - 2016.08.26 11:20:20 - [131] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: Well, there goes my forum free day, but I`LL KEEP IT SHORT ... Am i the only one who ever wondered why someone would want a profile pic that looks like a 20 year old woman crying and her face looking like "please stop" ? I'm not crying just got some DUST514 in my eye @lunettelulu7
Solecist Project 32524	Posted - 2016.08.26 12:43:09 - [132] - Quote Lulu Lunette wrote: Solecist Project wrote: Well, there goes my forum free day, but I`LL KEEP IT SHORT ... Am i the only one who ever wondered why someone would want a profile pic that looks like a 20 year old woman crying and her face looking like "please stop" ? I'm not crying just got some DUST514 in my eye cringe I wasn't talking about you, silly... you look way older than that! runs xD That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia 8 Golden Rules of EVE
Lulu Lunette Savage Moon Society 482	Posted - 2016.08.26 13:41:26 - [133] - Quote Was born in YC90 tyvm @lunettelulu7
Kenrailae The Scope Gallente Federation 588	Posted - 2016.08.26 13:51:33 - [134] - Quote Lulu Lunette wrote: Solecist Project wrote: Well, there goes my forum free day, but I`LL KEEP IT SHORT ... Am i the only one who ever wondered why someone would want a profile pic that looks like a 20 year old woman crying and her face looking like "please stop" ? I'm not crying just got some DUST514 in my eye cringe THAT.... was bad..... you should be ashamed. And I'm from the area of the States known as the Corn belt...... The Law is a point of View The NPE IS a big deal
Lulu Lunette Savage Moon Society 484	Posted - 2016.08.26 14:27:25 - [135] - Quote Kenrailae wrote: Lulu Lunette wrote: Solecist Project wrote: Well, there goes my forum free day, but I`LL KEEP IT SHORT ... Am i the only one who ever wondered why someone would want a profile pic that looks like a 20 year old woman crying and her face looking like "please stop" ? I'm not crying just got some DUST514 in my eye cringe THAT.... was bad..... you should be ashamed. And I'm from the area of the States known as the Corn belt...... Iowa? @lunettelulu7
Kenrailae The Scope Gallente Federation 589	Posted - 2016.08.26 14:31:02 - [136] - Quote Lulu Lunette wrote: Iowa? Indiana. Corn for days and days and days. Corn and soy beans. The Law is a point of View The NPE IS a big deal
Lulu Lunette Savage Moon Society 486	Posted - 2016.08.26 15:05:46 - [137] - Quote Minnesota here @lunettelulu7
Solecist Project 32540	Posted - 2016.08.26 15:20:10 - [138] - Quote Ain't you cute, you two... <3 That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia 8 Golden Rules of EVE
Kenrailae The Scope Gallente Federation 592	Posted - 2016.08.26 15:25:29 - [139] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: Ain't you cute, you two... <3 You're just jealous you don't get the full Corn experience The Law is a point of View The NPE IS a big deal
Solecist Project 32542	Posted - 2016.08.26 15:27:39 - [140] - Quote Oh I'd love to be a hillbilly like you are ... That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia 8 Golden Rules of EVE

Lulu Lunette Savage Moon Society 488	Posted - 2016.08.26 15:56:52 - [141] - Quote Do you think New Eden has corn? @lunettelulu7
Kenrailae The Scope Gallente Federation 595	Posted - 2016.08.26 16:27:08 - [142] - Quote Lulu Lunette wrote: Do you think New Eden has corn? It has livestock and soil, there has to be something in between those two Stop telling me I'm posting too quick Eve forums! The Law is a point of View The NPE IS a big deal
SmilingVagrant GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2705	Posted - 2016.08.30 03:44:55 - [143] - Quote ISD stifles discussion, they literally over moderated these forums until they weren't fun anymore.
pajedas The Conference Delete 180	Posted - 2016.08.30 20:14:10 - [144] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: Ah, the inflated ego of the average. Well, there's nothing more to add to this. :) And to think, I gave you a yellow dress all those years ago...
SurrenderMonkey Space Llama Industries 2268	Posted - 2016.08.31 16:03:44 - [145] - Quote Saw this, thought of this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6616488#post6616488 "LOL we locked the (surprisingly civil, all things considered) thread of the day because reasons. It'll be back after we fire a few wrecking shots into the thread continuity." Never happens on Reddit. "Help, I'm bored with missions!" http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Pandora Carrollon Dawn of a New Horizon The Republic. 641	Posted - 2016.08.31 20:01:45 - [146] - Quote SmilingVagrant wrote: ISD stifles discussion, they literally over moderated these forums until they weren't fun anymore. I think you are looking at this from an incorrect perspective based on an incorrect assumption. First, the incorrect assumption: "until they weren't fun anymore", implies that the forums are here for fun, like Reddit is. That's a false premise. The forums are here for CCP to get information out and to allow the the EVE community to have an official site to post back and forth with each other. Since this is a site run by a for profit corporation, they will attempt to appeal to the widest audience possible and thus have rules to govern our interaction here. The incorrect perspective: "ISD stifles discussion," and they do not. They moderate the forum posts based on the rules that CCP has set for the forums. They do make mistakes, they are humans and not perfect. On the majority, with thousands of posts per day, they do a reasonable job of something that is difficult at best and impossible most of the time. Having done this job on other boards, I know how hard it is. Please give them some credit. The reality: Reddit is what Reddit was built to do, it's open and pretty much unmoderated. Their vote system performs a similar function to the ISD but it's just as flawed, if not more, than the standard moderated forum system is. Perfectly valid posts can be voted into nothingness just because the person that said it isn't liked there. That makes it something of a popularity contest. You see this all over Reddit. That makes it great Social Media, but a terrible official communications point. The two systems are similar in many respects, but their build purposes were radically different. People keep trying to hold one up above the other, they are both just information sources. You're foolish if you don't pay attention to both, because you can lose vital info if you only pay attention to one. 8 Golden Rules of EVE GÇó EVE is entirely PvP
Syn Shi School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 208	Posted - 2016.09.01 00:27:18 - [147] - Quote You have to do something after you hit F1.
Kalido Raddi Echelon Research The Volition Cult 38	Posted - 2016.09.01 06:54:53 - [148] - Quote On Reddit you can have any opinion you want, as long as you agree with the herd. On the forums you can take a contrary position on an issue and at least have your opinion seen, not downvoted into oblivion. Also, /r/eve is basically terrible at anything except propaganda about the herds preferred side in Sov warfare.
Solecist Project 32766	Posted - 2016.09.01 07:07:44 - [149] - Quote Kalido Raddi wrote: On Reddit you can have any opinion you want, as long as you agree with the herd. On the forums you can take a contrary position on an issue and at least have your opinion seen, not downvoted into oblivion. Also, /r/eve is basically terrible at anything except propaganda about the herds preferred side in Sov warfare. It's funny to see how real the game is. Reddit is full of the sheep governments need to wage war and secure their richness. That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Voxinian 103	Posted - 2016.09.01 13:33:10 - [150] - Quote Viktor Amarr wrote: The rules we have here aren't severe or unrealistic at all nor is the moderation too much or inconsistent. If one can't stay within the reasonable constraints of those rules we have then that's a problem of the poster, not the forum. Consistent moderation? I think that there are some people on this forum that are so used of getting away with 'bad forum behaviour' that every other comment they make is some form of troll attempt or in general demenaing behaviour against new players and players with a different opinion than them. Reading the forum gives me a good idea about why there isn't any/much new blood in the game, no free to play scheme will fix that.



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