|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 2 post(s) |
Caleb Seremshur
Black Scorpions Inc Infensus
840
|
Posted - 2016.08.26 10:40:58 -
[1] - Quote
I think you'll discover friendo that the tears of dead miners by now are crystalising in to their own ice fields. |
Caleb Seremshur
Black Scorpions Inc Infensus
840
|
Posted - 2016.08.26 12:51:26 -
[2] - Quote
Nevyn Auscent wrote:Drago Shouna wrote: Ahh, the truth is out at last..you just can't go and kill one when you want with a **** fit Catalyst...didums.
Or you know, he's actually right. Mining & Industrial ships should have real fittings. The nitpicking over what the T2 versions should be specialised to is one thing, but the basic fact that mining vessels should not have hard coded stats which fittings barely alter in three different version
I just took a second look at the OP. I don't know what kind of objectives that CCP are hoping to achieve with their mining barges but barely changing them at all isn't going to do very much.
Kicking a dead horse really. Mining and everything related to it from the AFK rock-wand, unworkable ships, mining boosts, POSmodule rorqual and compression is tardy and lame. |
Caleb Seremshur
Black Scorpions Inc Infensus
840
|
Posted - 2016.08.29 16:56:33 -
[3] - Quote
HandelsPharmi wrote:A Ore Strip Miner costs around 150M ISK. Fitting one to a Skiff is maybe the risk worth. But fitting two is a little bit insane.
Are you planning to reduce the prices for the modules? Maybe half them?
Come on man seriously how many people run these things, and of those that do, how many die? It's no secret that there are huge botting networks running miners 24/7... you think that as soon as you enter local these things don't just run away to their safe? |
Caleb Seremshur
Black Scorpions Inc Circle-Of-Two
860
|
Posted - 2016.09.12 00:10:04 -
[4] - Quote
I never realised that mining was a highsec intended activity. It's almost as if nullsec didn't have ore and that the ore in nullsec isn't safer to mine and more valuable. Jee willickers. |
Caleb Seremshur
Black Scorpions Inc Circle-Of-Two
861
|
Posted - 2016.09.12 08:46:36 -
[5] - Quote
Ok so you feel its unfair when 10 people coordinate to kill a ship that might as well be unarmed, that your ship gets killed.
|
Caleb Seremshur
Black Scorpions Inc Circle-Of-Two
861
|
Posted - 2016.09.12 11:46:50 -
[6] - Quote
M8 you can't seriously be suggesting that you, a crab, a cow, a grazing herd animal that refuses to defend itself has any platform to stand on when it gets killed by its natural predators.
Miners form part of the food chain: the bottom. |
Caleb Seremshur
Black Scorpions Inc Circle-Of-Two
861
|
Posted - 2016.09.12 12:39:44 -
[7] - Quote
hahahahahaha you think mining and manufacturing makes you some sort of protected class? No mate, you are advocating immunity for the least interactive mechanic of ship related gameplay. Even links takes more work because you still need to d-scan so you don't get rolled. |
Caleb Seremshur
Black Scorpions Inc Circle-Of-Two
861
|
Posted - 2016.09.12 13:49:16 -
[8] - Quote
I really cannot get over how deranged and entitled what you said is. There are nullsec corporations that regularly run their own mining ops with PVP characters contributing if able to. Even the most rudimentary mining frigate can still put forward materials for building ships.
This has got to be trolling for sure, the clarion call for miners to unionise and stop doing the thing they live off is just laughable. B-5R proved something also - there is so much surplus material lying around that even trillions of isk worth of damage done can be floated on the open market, totally ignoring the thousands of potential supers worth of minerals already set aside for the task in the first case. |
Caleb Seremshur
Black Scorpions Inc Circle-Of-Two
862
|
Posted - 2016.09.13 01:34:54 -
[9] - Quote
Tina Mori wrote:Caleb Seremshur wrote:I never realised that mining was a highsec intended activity. It's almost as if nullsec didn't have ore and that the ore in nullsec isn't safer to mine and more valuable. Jee willickers. It is all a case of Market availability There are all those Hisec trade hubs, ie Jita, Dodixie, etc Now, show me where all the great Nullsec hubs are With nowhere to use all that Nullsec ore, maybe now you mayunderstand why people mine in Hisec Btw, you try getting all that lovely Ore/Minerals back to the hubs, without your freighter being ganked
Your understanding of the game is incredibly shallow if you don't think that it's possible to make it to highsec without being shafted. Jumpfreighters and wormholes being just 2 examples of how to do it, compressed ore being another way of moving more at once.
But now I know you're just being facetious, there's just no way anyone who does mining can be this delusional about how things work out there. |
Caleb Seremshur
Black Scorpions Inc Circle-Of-Two
862
|
Posted - 2016.09.13 01:55:32 -
[10] - Quote
Abadayos wrote:So CCP Fozzie...you ask for our input yet when we give it, it goes ignored completely? The changes proposed have not been modified/changed or anything since the announcement on 8/22.
Not saying any of the proposed ideas here are good or bad, it just makes it look like the 'we appreciate your feedback' is more of a platitude that our feedback is wanted, welcome and taken n board. Seems that you just wanted to community to think their feedback is wanted where as in reality it's not and just ignored. The request for feedback is not a guarantee of its implementation. If you want to make a case for a change to these proposals to be made, then provide something more substantial than the tantrums I am seeing.
Quote:A Small ship should not be able to come in and Blap a heavy Industrial Ship within a few seconds.
Despite all you gangkers out there thinking this is fair, we should at least have a fighting chance to Survive. Hulks and Mackinaws are Useless till this is Fixed.
A main battletank weighing 22 tons should not be able to destroy a 300 ton excavator by your definition of balance, but, I'd bet my bottom dollar on the MBT killing a PC3000 any day of the week. Try using one of those alts you run as a combat ship? The increased survival of your mining barges will eventually pay off the money that your alt isn't making. Or run your mining fleet as a group of overtanked procurers using an even blend of drones so you hit all the weakspots.
Quote:I never said there was no mining I just mentioned a lack of markets to trade the winnings of all that mining So what if there are many Hisec miners? What I don`t understand is all the abuse they get, as they provide all the raw materials for everything built in Hisec. Just don`t say you never buy anything in Hisec, but instead you buy everything from all those wonderful sources in Nullsec.....
Its not the highsec miners that are the problem, its the entitled whining from working class evangalists like you pontificating to the rest of society about how valuable your minimum wage job is. There's a reason why mining is frequently used with bots, because it's a simplistic task that's easily automated, just like checkouts and factory production lines.
Let's be clear: highsec miners are the bottom feeders, the guys at the bottom of the heap doing perhaps the single least impactful occupation in EVE. The only thing you've got going for yourselves is how many highsec miners there are but again the call for your associates to unionise and """punish""" the rest of the game has been made before and never worked out. Too fractitious you are. You will never be anything but the people the rest of the game steps and stamps on.
As for the jackals that constitute CODE, who knows, they serve a useful purpose of thinning the herd of its weakest members. |
|
|
|
|