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ElrondMD
The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project
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Posted - 2007.03.15 10:59:00 -
[31]
Thanks for the heads up, in the form of a popped ARROW member.
I can understand why you dont care to contact alot of northern alliances but its just plain respect. Especially to those that defended your space for you.
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SugarDaddy
Comando Vermelho Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.03.15 12:08:00 -
[32]
Hey Wraith....Im still waiting for the 2bil you guys promissed me. Or you guys dont hold up to your word?
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Wraithstorm
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.03.15 12:14:00 -
[33]
Originally by: ElrondMD Thanks for the heads up, in the form of a popped ARROW member.
I can understand why you dont care to contact alot of northern alliances but its just plain respect. Especially to those that defended your space for you.
First of all bro, you didnt defend anything FOR us. You helped us out, and for that we are grateful. Secondly if you would have paid attention to the Northern Lead channel you would have noticed that we were removed from the MOTD for quite sometime. Furthermore when SMASHKILL NAPed all of you and ESA was left out that to me showed that we werent considered a worthwhile ally to the Northern Coalition.
ARROW are standup guys, and I apologize to you for not contacting you specifically, and informing you of the standings change, however ALOT of your fellow Coalitioners knew of this, why they didnt let the rest of the people in the channel know is beyond me.
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Wraithstorm
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.03.15 12:14:00 -
[34]
Originally by: SugarDaddy Hey Wraith....Im still waiting for the 2bil you guys promissed me. Or you guys dont hold up to your word?
Very funny
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Wraithstorm
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.03.15 12:19:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf So you assumed everyone would know when you did not bother to contact the diplomats of each of the blue standing corps/alliances and did not make any post about standings changes?
Then you shot folks that you had set to blue previously violating non aggression pacts with them because you assumed they knew without being told by you that they were no longer blue?
So exactly why would anyone in the future accept any NAP agreement with your alliance given these facts?
You have no idea what you are talking about, and I am not going to waste my time addressing your post. There are enough people in the community who know me, and my Corporation enough to know that we dont get down like that.
ESA has been through its share of BS in the North, and despite leaving some good friendships behind are happy to be done with it. Im sure we wont be missed
To the D2 poster, its funny how during our entire time in the North we only saw you on the forums.
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SugarDaddy
Comando Vermelho Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.03.15 12:31:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Wraithstorm
Originally by: SugarDaddy Hey Wraith....Im still waiting for the 2bil you guys promissed me. Or you guys dont hold up to your word?
Very funny
Aint funny...
But gl.
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Boliknar
The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.15 13:53:00 -
[37]
Originally by: SugarDaddy
Originally by: Wraithstorm
Originally by: SugarDaddy Hey Wraith....Im still waiting for the 2bil you guys promissed me. Or you guys dont hold up to your word?
Very funny
Aint funny...
But gl.
Please you reset standngs locked us out (without warning) and then failed to get the isk up front...whose fault is that?
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SugarDaddy
Comando Vermelho Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.03.15 14:07:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Boliknar
Originally by: SugarDaddy
Originally by: Wraithstorm
Originally by: SugarDaddy Hey Wraith....Im still waiting for the 2bil you guys promissed me. Or you guys dont hold up to your word?
Very funny
Aint funny...
But gl.
Please you reset standngs locked us out (without warning) and then failed to get the isk up front...whose fault is that?
Totally MY fault, but my goal was not the isk, but it was to **** up the deal StormArmada did to take Vale...and it worked perfectly.
Anyway, back to the topic before they lock it, like I said, GL StormArmada
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Bienurdau Hywoaf
Minmatar Matari Holo News Network
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Posted - 2007.03.15 14:16:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Wraithstorm
Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf So you assumed everyone would know when you did not bother to contact the diplomats of each of the blue standing corps/alliances and did not make any post about standings changes?
Then you shot folks that you had set to blue previously violating non aggression pacts with them because you assumed they knew without being told by you that they were no longer blue?
So exactly why would anyone in the future accept any NAP agreement with your alliance given these facts?
You have no idea what you are talking about, and I am not going to waste my time addressing your post. There are enough people in the community who know me, and my Corporation enough to know that we dont get down like that.
ESA has been through its share of BS in the North, and despite leaving some good friendships behind are happy to be done with it. Im sure we wont be missed
To the D2 poster, its funny how during our entire time in the North we only saw you on the forums.
Well I'm just going by what you wrote here.
I mean there are at least four or five corps/alliances that have posted saying you shot them without informing them of the standings change.
Apparently you don't pay promised monies either....not sure what the 2 billion was for but it is apparent you chose not to pay it and skip town so to speak...
I definately if I was an alliance leader or anyone else would think really hard before NAPing you given this instance in the future. YOu couldn't be sure when you'd just turn coat and start shooting despite any agreements.... Idea: Treaties |
Boliknar
The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.15 14:32:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf
Originally by: Wraithstorm
Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf So you assumed everyone would know when you did not bother to contact the diplomats of each of the blue standing corps/alliances and did not make any post about standings changes?
Then you shot folks that you had set to blue previously violating non aggression pacts with them because you assumed they knew without being told by you that they were no longer blue?
So exactly why would anyone in the future accept any NAP agreement with your alliance given these facts?
You have no idea what you are talking about, and I am not going to waste my time addressing your post. There are enough people in the community who know me, and my Corporation enough to know that we dont get down like that.
ESA has been through its share of BS in the North, and despite leaving some good friendships behind are happy to be done with it. Im sure we wont be missed
To the D2 poster, its funny how during our entire time in the North we only saw you on the forums.
Well I'm just going by what you wrote here.
I mean there are at least four or five corps/alliances that have posted saying you shot them without informing them of the standings change.
Apparently you don't pay promised monies either....not sure what the 2 billion was for but it is apparent you chose not to pay it and skip town so to speak...
I definately if I was an alliance leader or anyone else would think really hard before NAPing you given this instance in the future. YOu couldn't be sure when you'd just turn coat and start shooting despite any agreements....
Just let me say this... we were given advanced warning (not by ESE). So we were not caught off guard, however we would have been if not for our devious ways
Now to address the fact you say you dont want to be involved in politics... Good because, while you are without a doubt one of if not the best FC I have ever flown with, You are also without a doubt the worst diplomat I have ever seen (not meant to be an insult btw). I do wish you guys luck in the big picture and many lost ships when flying against us
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GoldSnake
Macabre Votum Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.03.15 15:51:00 -
[41]
Well, this should be interesting. Any ESE come my way, they get a quick trip back to empire
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Ckrom Cometcrusher
Gallente ASSASSIN SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2007.03.15 16:19:00 -
[42]
Why not just post:
We have gone pirate and used devious means to kill our "Friends". YARR!!!!!!
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Being irate due to excessive veldspar mining in empire, I deleted the Nap list out of boredom and could not be bothered to redo it. SO screw it guys lets go kill our friends and find some 0.0 space to live in later.
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Having no space to call our own, we figured pewpewing on the people who helped us makies sense, and might impress the people who pwned us earlier this year enough for them to reward us with a nap.
Things that went BOOM! |
Schmobag
Southern Cross Incorporated Pure.
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Posted - 2007.03.15 17:08:00 -
[43]
Have fun hugging the Obe gate in P3.
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.15 19:44:00 -
[44]
Better never, than late.
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.15 19:44:00 -
[45]
Better never, than late.
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Wraithstorm
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.03.15 20:28:00 -
[46]
Edited by: Wraithstorm on 15/03/2007 20:24:47
Originally by: Boliknar
Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf
Originally by: Wraithstorm
Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf So you assumed everyone would know when you did not bother to contact the diplomats of each of the blue standing corps/alliances and did not make any post about standings changes?
Then you shot folks that you had set to blue previously violating non aggression pacts with them because you assumed they knew without being told by you that they were no longer blue?
So exactly why would anyone in the future accept any NAP agreement with your alliance given these facts?
You have no idea what you are talking about, and I am not going to waste my time addressing your post. There are enough people in the community who know me, and my Corporation enough to know that we dont get down like that.
ESA has been through its share of BS in the North, and despite leaving some good friendships behind are happy to be done with it. Im sure we wont be missed
To the D2 poster, its funny how during our entire time in the North we only saw you on the forums.
Well I'm just going by what you wrote here.
I mean there are at least four or five corps/alliances that have posted saying you shot them without informing them of the standings change.
Apparently you don't pay promised monies either....not sure what the 2 billion was for but it is apparent you chose not to pay it and skip town so to speak...
I definately if I was an alliance leader or anyone else would think really hard before NAPing you given this instance in the future. YOu couldn't be sure when you'd just turn coat and start shooting despite any agreements....
Just let me say this... we were given advanced warning (not by ESE). So we were not caught off guard, however we would have been if not for our devious ways
Now to address the fact you say you dont want to be involved in politics... Good because, while you are without a doubt one of if not the best FC I have ever flown with, You are also without a doubt the worst diplomat I have ever seen (not meant to be an insult btw). I do wish you guys luck in the big picture and many lost ships when flying against us
Lol, I had to smile at this bro. I agree, my political capacity has definitely spiraled downhill recently. I used to be pretty damn solid at it though. I guess it just gets to you after a while. Now I just want to shoot stuff. Or get killed trying anyways.
Thanks for showing some class on these forums. We'll see you fellas out there. We do genuinally thank all of the entities who helped us while we were part of the Coalition, and apologize once again for any of you who were killed while having us blue. We really did think that the warning order was given amongst yourselves, however I should have made this post as a precaution.
Anyways, once again we look forward to the good fights. HF folks!
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Kronn Blackthorne
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:19:00 -
[47]
what ? Wraithstrom is doin politic ? my a$$ :)
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Amuse
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:28:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Kronn Blackthorne what ? Wraithstrom is doin politic ? my a$$ :)
About as reliable as your politics
Now get your ass back, we miss your dialect on teamspeak
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Chavu
The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:38:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Xendie just so everyone knows the facts here.....
ESA=HYDRA
Good Lord, don't say that. Some of the new corps that joined ESA during the BWF days reformed with some CDC corps to form Hydra. We don't want anything to do with the gigantic blunder that we now call BWF (which is now ISS land???)
This thread should be called "ESA backstabs all of the North, then posts a week later and declares it a standings reset" ESA claiming you told people ahead of time is a huge laugh. Let's see, I have had members of MM, PURE, D2, RZR and those corps flying to the new regions ask me why ESA has been shooting them when they show blue to us. Which is the more logical: that all of the north ignored ESA's warning or that ESA didn't tell anyone to get some easy kills to perk up their KB.
Now everyone go back to thinking that the North is NAP-land, nothing to see here.
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civari
Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:43:00 -
[50]
Hey old friend!
Good luck and have fun. Less blue = more fun!
Video: Fun in Geminate |
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Amuse
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:57:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Chavu
Originally by: Xendie just so everyone knows the facts here.....
ESA=HYDRA
Good Lord, don't say that. Some of the new corps that joined ESA during the BWF days reformed with some CDC corps to form Hydra. We don't want anything to do with the gigantic blunder that we now call BWF (which is now ISS land???)
This thread should be called "ESA backstabs all of the North, then posts a week later and declares it a standings reset" ESA claiming you told people ahead of time is a huge laugh. Let's see, I have had members of MM, PURE, D2, RZR and those corps flying to the new regions ask me why ESA has been shooting them when they show blue to us. Which is the more logical: that all of the north ignored ESA's warning or that ESA didn't tell anyone to get some easy kills to perk up their KB.
Now everyone go back to thinking that the North is NAP-land, nothing to see here.
Concidering the events before we left for the new regions, none of those should have had any reason to keep us blue or even remotely suspect that we would keep them blue.
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Zeebakes
Caldari Bellum Aeternus The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.03.16 00:20:00 -
[52]
Hey Wraith buddy. I see you don't follow your own rules very well about posting ALL losses and kills. And just in case you deleted that lossmail from your Myrm in P3, here it is again.
Cheers Zee
Quote: 2007.03.14 06:19
Victim: Wraithstorm Alliance: Storm Armada Corp: Elite Storm Enterprises Destroyed: Myrmidon System: P3EN-E Security: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Shiv Ertai (laid the final blow) Security: -4.4 Alliance: The Makhai Corp: Direct Intent Ship: Hyperion Weapon: Modal Mega Ion Particle Accelerator I
Name: Scourge Heavy Missile / Guristas
Destroyed items:
Medium Nosferatu I Heavy Electron Blaster II, Qty: 2 Void M, Qty: 130 Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Tracking Disruptor II Medium Armor Repairer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Mobile Small Warp Disruptor I (Cargo) Void M, Qty: 8025 (Cargo)
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Wraithstorm
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.03.16 01:24:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Wraithstorm on 16/03/2007 01:21:07
Originally by: Zeebakes Hey Wraith buddy. I see you don't follow your own rules very well about posting ALL losses and kills. And just in case you deleted that lossmail from your Myrm in P3, here it is again.
Cheers Zee
Quote: 2007.03.14 06:19
Victim: Wraithstorm Alliance: Storm Armada Corp: Elite Storm Enterprises Destroyed: Myrmidon System: P3EN-E Security: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Shiv Ertai (laid the final blow) Security: -4.4 Alliance: The Makhai Corp: Direct Intent Ship: Hyperion Weapon: Modal Mega Ion Particle Accelerator I
Name: Scourge Heavy Missile / Guristas
Destroyed items:
Medium Nosferatu I Heavy Electron Blaster II, Qty: 2 Void M, Qty: 130 Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Tracking Disruptor II Medium Armor Repairer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Mobile Small Warp Disruptor I (Cargo) Void M, Qty: 8025 (Cargo)
Since that kill Ive been logged in a total of about 10 minutes due to work and RL. I have the KM, and I follow the rules I put forth. Its funny how the pilot that actually killed me had enough class in local to say GF, and you can come on here and gloat someone elses killmail.
To the TSO pilot, ESE doesnt need to perk up our killboards bro. We do just fine on our own.
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Wraithstorm
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.03.16 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Chavu
Originally by: Xendie just so everyone knows the facts here.....
ESA=HYDRA
Good Lord, don't say that. Some of the new corps that joined ESA during the BWF days reformed with some CDC corps to form Hydra. We don't want anything to do with the gigantic blunder that we now call BWF (which is now ISS land???)
This thread should be called "ESA backstabs all of the North, then posts a week later and declares it a standings reset" ESA claiming you told people ahead of time is a huge laugh. Let's see, I have had members of MM, PURE, D2, RZR and those corps flying to the new regions ask me why ESA has been shooting them when they show blue to us. Which is the more logical: that all of the north ignored ESA's warning or that ESA didn't tell anyone to get some easy kills to perk up their KB.
Now everyone go back to thinking that the North is NAP-land, nothing to see here.
If you knew the background of HYDRA, and ESA, and how Hydra was formed your foot would be so far in your mouth right now that....Nevermind
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USN CVN72
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.03.16 01:30:00 -
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those that know Wraithstorm he is without a doubt one of the better FC's in the game. I remember one day in band camp that Wraithstorm hated politics. I am glad to see he is still true to his ways...
If i was still on his side i would fly with him to the death thats for sure cause he is an awsome FC...
USN
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tbow10
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.16 02:47:00 -
[56]
Gl wraith i'm sure you'll have some fun with it :). And if you took the time to tell evryone up north they where back to nut you would never get to play :P
wish you all best of luck and hope you enjoy yourselves storm armada :) |
Longlly
The Shadow Order
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Posted - 2007.03.16 03:19:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Xendie just so everyone knows the facts here.....
ESA=HYDRA
However, the above is not a fact.
Hydra does not have any relationship to ESA. We are two separate entities. |
Longlly
The Shadow Order
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Posted - 2007.03.16 03:24:00 -
[58]
Hey Wraith,
GL in your new focus. I had a blast in BWF, enjoyed my time in ESA. TSO wishes your team nothing but the best.
I'll see you in P3 from time to time.
Longlly |
ElrondMD
The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project
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Posted - 2007.03.16 03:31:00 -
[59]
Smashkill isnt NAP'd by nearly all of the Northern Coalition, its only Vale residents, the command channel you speak of has nothing to do with most of the North as well, hence your access being removed.
You've got your wires crossed and now your shooting alot of the parties that supported ESA. There is no way around it.
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Kurupt
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.03.16 03:35:00 -
[60]
So its our problem to make sure EVERY alliance, we were blue with updates the standings before we do anything?
We were removed from the MOTD for the north allies and also removed access to the channel. I'd say thats pretty clear on how any alliance would feel towards the people in the north. Wraith also mentioned we were left out of the SmashKill NAP with the North. There was no backing of any person in the north behind us but we should keep them blue and inform you? Not our job to babysit everyone's standings.
The note about Wraith being a dipolmat I'd say for the most part he has done a good job. As a corp or alliance we have pretty much been everyone with friendies which you can't do if you don't have connections and respect of others. Don't bother mentioning times when we are pulling knives out of our back.
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