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Crying Assassin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2016.08.24 18:28:37 -
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As above looking for some basic advice on this.
Importantly i will be playing a solo account, after reading a few guides and topics i was going to go down the 2 ship route ie a heron / buzzard for the actual probing and scanning then jump into an incursus for the actual combat side of things, the problem i see is having to drag 2 ships round. My next thought was to use a t3 destroyer jackdaw because of its 95% reduction in cpu requirements for probe launchers.
So seeking advice from more skilled players as to what my best options are to attempt this venture solo, if possible a fit would be great help.
cheers
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Sonya Corvinus
Static-Noise
Upholders
480
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Posted - 2016.08.24 18:43:41 -
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t3ds would definitely work. If you want to go with a jackdaw, I'd do something along these lines:
High
rocket launcher II x5
expanded probe launcher
Mid
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster x2
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
some sort of web
1MN Afterburner
Warp Scrambler
Low
ballistic control unit
damage control
Rigs
small anti-em screen reinforcer
small core defense operational solidifier
probably will need a small processor overclocking unit
Carry a variety of rockets and a decent number of cap boosters in case you draw someone into a real fight
again, any t3d would work, and if you're just going after MTUs I'd probably go with a confessor or hecate, but if you're trained heavily caldari, a jackdaw would do the trick |
Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
356
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Posted - 2016.08.24 18:47:59 -
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There's always that station games fit:
(Svipul)
Autocannon
2 Shiny Medium Shield Extender
4 Shield Power Relay II
AB
Scram
A signature :o
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
17693
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Posted - 2016.08.24 18:51:27 -
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T3d's work a treat, personally I haven't flown the jackdaw but it's certainly going to be tanky enough.
Only problem with them is all people say about them is they're broken and op so it might be a little scary for the task and
If you're after fight's you're going to need to be fairly patient, I spent a whole day flipping with a Magus in lanngisi last week and had no bites at all.
Now I'm fairly well known for killing bigger **** than I have any business even looking at with frigates,
and a few people recognized me so maybe they were a little spooked
but it seemed like everyone in system was an awarebear.
General trend with the bears these days is rampant cowardice,
Anything flashing in their pocket and they run screaming.
Maybe it's me but I'm fairly certain I'm not scary enough for that.
The ship I've had the most significant success with over the years is the Ishkur though Omar (who is considerably better it this than I am swears by the comment) it's ****** enough not to spook the bears but solid enough for surprising pressure if flown well.
If you're just going for the MTU though just bring something don't and blap away
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Crying Assassin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2016.08.24 19:02:23 -
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thanks for the replies my intention to start with is more along the line of just the mtu and maybe provoking a fight, just dipping my toes into the pvp side of things and think this would be a good starting point.
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Roman Manowar
State War Academy
Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2016.08.24 19:57:31 -
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Just be careful and watch your six. Some of the MTU's out there are bait for you.
Once you blow it up, 98% of the time nobody engages you in suspect mode. But there is always that chance someone's been waiting for you.
Most people I've flown with go suspect, then sit at station and wait on people to engage them. But they also have armor rep alts fleeted up off grid waiting to rep them.
It is fun to probe down a mission runner and his MTU and see what their reaction is when I roll into their mission.  |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12879
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Posted - 2016.08.24 20:09:38 -
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When you land on the MTU, align to a safe and set speed to 75% - that way, if it's a trap, you can GTFO and live to MTU-pop another day :)
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
2774
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Posted - 2016.08.24 21:05:28 -
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T3D is a good choice for roaming solo, though you should have near max probing skills as the hull has no bonus on probing strength just fitting. For highsec I have a Stratios ready, but don't expect many to bite here. Switching ships is viable when you are operating in one system.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
17697
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Posted - 2016.08.24 21:31:18 -
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Don't run from a good trap! traps are great fun.
Some of my most memorable fight's were traps.
Eh, scanned down a dominix a few years back and warped in already suspect,
he was gone when I landed but there was a big typhoon and a Proteus smiling at me instead.
The typhoon was practically on the beacon but the port was about 80k off (****ed if I know why)
Anyway the typhoon comes straight at me and lands a point before I can nope out of there
so I set about him reasoning that I would be happy if I gave a good account of myself in my frigate before the port came and smeared me across the system.
It didn't go down like that, I got the typhoon deep into hull as he got a lock on me so I overheat my guns and *BANG*
THE TYPHOON EXPLODES! **** ! OVERHEAT ALL THE THE THINGS! WATCH THE TRANSVERSAL , GET THE ARMOR BACK UP FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUCK THIS OS GONNA BE CLOSE!
So now I'm dancing with a buffer, brawling fit Proteus , webbed to hell and back ,bearly mitigating enough damage to rep back out of hull.I had to keep manually adjusting my orbit to keep him From volleying through me ,
every now and again he would land a good hit , my armor would disappear and I'd dip further into hull and have to claw it back to survive the next one, while trying desperately to manage my cap to keep guns,rep,ab and piddly little meta neut going, if any of them fail I explode
This dance goes on for what seems like forever
Then just as I burnt my repper out his guns stop ... I'm not sure why until he comvos me asking for a ransom,
then I realized that my piddly little meta neut had caped him out and he was helpless.
Sitting there with this White Knight helpless was one of the most satisfying moments I have had here yet.
"This isn't about isk"
To this day it's one of my favorite kills.
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Roman Manowar
State War Academy
Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2016.08.24 23:30:13 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:T3D is a good choice for roaming solo, though you should have near max probing skills as the hull has no bonus on probing strength just fitting. For highsec I have a Stratios ready, but don't expect many to bite here. Switching ships is viable when you are operating in one system.
Are all the T3D tank modes as good as Jackdaw for this? Like a Hecate or Svipul?
Stratios seems nice though, because you can fit it to cloaky hunt too if you wanted. |
Roman Manowar
State War Academy
Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2016.08.24 23:31:32 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:To this day it's one of my favorite kills. What a great story! I would of loved to see your face getting a ransom chat request. LOL
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
2775
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Posted - 2016.08.25 08:05:16 -
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Roman Manowar wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:T3D is a good choice for roaming solo, though you should have near max probing skills as the hull has no bonus on probing strength just fitting. For highsec I have a Stratios ready, but don't expect many to bite here. Switching ships is viable when you are operating in one system. Are all the T3D tank modes as good as Jackdaw for this? Like a Hecate or Svipul? Stratios seems nice though, because you can fit it to cloaky hunt too if you wanted.
With the current (im)balance of the T3Ds the Svipul is the strongest and most flexible T3D. The Jackdaw can fit a monster tank, but is slow as a snail and dishes out half the DPS of the Svipul. Hecate with blaster and active armor tank may be an option.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Solecist Project
32452
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Posted - 2016.08.25 09:02:04 -
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Did you read http://mtuhunter.wordpress.com ?
There's an extensive mtu hunting guide there!
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
8 Golden Rules of EVE
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Crying Assassin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2016.08.25 18:04:15 -
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yes i did read that thanks very informative and easy to take in :)
guys thanks for all the replies if i ever get to a stratios how would you fit that for this kind of entertainment :)
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
17732
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Posted - 2016.08.25 21:43:33 -
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Crying Assassin wrote:yes i did read that thanks very informative and easy to take in :) guys thanks for all the replies if i ever get to a stratios how would you fit that for this kind of entertainment :)
Dual rep e.i. one t2 one anvil, scram ,ab ,dual web's or web and a tracking disruptor
And as many neuts in the highs as you can fit.
Offline the probe launcher when not in use so you get the fitting room back 
Oh, at least one flight of warrior's and one of ogre's, then whatever other drones you fancy.
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
662
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Posted - 2016.08.25 21:49:20 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dual rep e.i. one t2 one anvil
Currently picturing Ralph hammering out new armor plates on his anvil mid-combat and welding them up as the enemy breaks through the old ones...
(Sorry, I couldn't resist)
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
17734
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Posted - 2016.08.25 21:52:08 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dual rep e.i. one t2 one anvil Currently picturing Ralph hammering out new armor plates on his anvil mid-combat and welding them up as the enemy breaks through the old ones... (Sorry, I couldn't resist)
Haha, that pleases me.
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Solecist Project
32503
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Posted - 2016.08.25 21:55:37 -
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Crying Assassin wrote:yes i did read that thanks very informative and easy to take in :) guys thanks for all the replies if i ever get to a stratios how would you fit that for this kind of entertainment :)
I know it's not helpfull, but I always consider speed ...
... so i can fly through crossfire unharmed ...
... while triggering npcs and dropping them onto him.
for this scenario are a speedy y-s8 atron (more lowslots for overdrives, pg)...
... or a slasher (forgot. lol) good options.
you might want to consider it some day. :)
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
8 Golden Rules of EVE
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Vincenzo Arbosa
Locust Assets
78
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Posted - 2016.08.26 03:41:52 -
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It looks like his blog is as abandoned as all of those lonely MTUs out there. A shame, it is pretty good reading, too. His last post mentions going on holiday and returning shortly. Hope all is well for Mr Severus.
o7
"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."-á
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Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
896
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Posted - 2016.08.26 04:09:35 -
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Roman Manowar wrote:Stratios seems nice though.
The Stratios is a very nice ship. Although it has the drawback of being well known as a capable PvP boat. Ralph's advice here is very sound: you don't want to present as something that will smash a carebear's face in.
You want them thinking you're going to be an easy kill, which is why ships like the Ishkur and Incursus are so good for MTU flipping shenanigans. Carebears don't feel as threatened by them, so they're more likely to pull the trigger and give you that delicious teal glow of a Limited Engagement Timer.
Stratios are very popular for hunting 0.0 ratting ships and they see a lot of use in Wormhole space.
Roman Manowar wrote:because you can fit it to cloaky hunt too if you wanted.
I, and most others, wouldn't ever undock a Stratios without a CovOps cloak on it. If you don't want/need the cloak, use a VNI instead.
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
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Cara Forelli
Meticulously Indifferent
2040
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Posted - 2016.08.26 14:41:38 -
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Mephiztopheleze wrote:You want them thinking you're going to be an easy kill, which is why ships like the Ishkur and Incursus are so good for MTU flipping shenanigans.
This is very important. And it's ironic, because battleships actually have a much easier time defending themselves against cruisers than frigates but they're also way less likely to engage you. (T3Ds are also "scary").
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Titan's Lament
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Crying Assassin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2016.08.26 17:46:44 -
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lots of great info and advice, great reading it all. It looks like the 2 ship option may well be the best way to go forward buzzard and incursus, till i get the hang of this.
many thanks
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Pandora Carrollon
Dawn of a New Horizon
The Republic.
612
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Posted - 2016.08.26 21:14:23 -
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Loved Ralph's story.
To add a slight bit too it, about a month or so ago I was sworn off of sig/speed tanking. Folks even said NPC's aren't capable of being affected by it.
Well, as is shown in other threads, I'm a stubborn idiot. I keep trying anyway. I have found that my ENI cruiser can out RAT my Brutix against NPC's in Null. I can speed tank everything but their frigates and destroyers. Those I just blap or drone off. Orbiting a Battleship at 1,000 meters hitting him hard with everything I have and watching him miss with everything he has (my armor happily regenerating to max and then my shields coming up under the fire of those massive weapons, feels kinda neat).
So, don't be so quick to run from a larger foe or to try speed tanking. It works PvP and PvE though slightly different. I'd only run if the odds were really against me, which is fairly common because, like I said, I'm a stubborn idiot.
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
674
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Posted - 2016.08.26 21:21:05 -
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Pandora Carrollon wrote:Loved Ralph's story.
To add a slight bit too it, about a month or so ago I was sworn off of sig/speed tanking. Folks even said NPC's aren't capable of being affected by it.
Well, as is shown in other threads, I'm a stubborn idiot. I keep trying anyway. I have found that my ENI cruiser can out RAT my Brutix against NPC's in Null. I can speed tank everything but their frigates and destroyers. Those I just blap or drone off. Orbiting a Battleship at 1,000 meters hitting him hard with everything I have and watching him miss with everything he has (my armor happily regenerating to max and then my shields coming up under the fire of those massive weapons, feels kinda neat).
So, don't be so quick to run from a larger foe or to try speed tanking. It works PvP and PvE though slightly different. I'd only run if the odds were really against me, which is fairly common because, like I said, I'm a stubborn idiot.
To be fair I don't believe we said sig/speed tanking didn't work...it is *range* tanking that they cheat on....
And all forms of e-war...
But I could be wrong...it has been a while.
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
17756
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Posted - 2016.08.26 22:05:17 -
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npc's use bullshit magic hac's though, sig tanking can be inconsistent when its got no right to be,
which is usually when you really want it not to be
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Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
423
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Posted - 2016.08.27 01:50:55 -
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Gnosis.
That is what I use to hunt MTUs. Works very well, I might add. And yes, it can fit an expanded probe launcher for the pewpew probez.
Winning. 
This would cure me of the fear...
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Sitting Bull Lakota
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
129
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Posted - 2016.08.27 03:21:07 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Don't run from a good trap! traps are great fun.
Some of my most memorable fight's were traps.
Eh, scanned down a dominix a few years back and warped in already suspect,
he was gone when I landed but there was a big typhoon and a Proteus smiling at me instead.
The typhoon was practically on the beacon but the port was about 80k off (****ed if I know why)
Anyway the typhoon comes straight at me and lands a point before I can nope out of there
so I set about him reasoning that I would be happy if I gave a good account of myself in my frigate before the port came and smeared me across the system.
It didn't go down like that, I got the typhoon deep into hull by the time the port git his slow ass over and got a lock on me so I overheat my guns and *BANG*
THE TYPHOON EXPLODES! **** ! OVERHEAT ALL THE THE THINGS! WATCH THE TRANSVERSAL , GET THE ARMOR BACK UP FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUCK THIS OS GONNA BE CLOSE!
So now I'm dancing with a buffer, brawling fit Proteus , webbed to hell and back ,bearly mitigating enough damage to rep back out of hull.I had to keep manually adjusting my orbit to keep him From volleying through me ,
every now and again he would land a good hit , my armor would disappear and I'd dip further into hull and have to claw it back to survive the next one, while trying desperately to manage my cap to keep guns,rep,ab and piddly little meta neut going, if any of them fail I explode
This dance goes on for what seems like forever
Then just as I burnt my repper out his guns stop ... I'm not sure why until he comvos me asking for a ransom,
then I realized that my piddly little meta neut had caped him out and he was helpless.
Sitting there with this White Knight helpless was one of the most satisfying moments I have had here yet.
"This isn't about isk"
To this day it's one of my favorite kills.
This is exactly the kind of thing that perked my ears about EvE. This needs to be a promotional video.
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Taishoku Mayaki
State War Academy
Caldari State
1486
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Posted - 2016.08.27 08:19:17 -
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Just to re-iterate a point the experts have already no doubt made.
Don't fly t3
You will kill plenty of MTU's sure, but not a single PVE'r is going to bother engaging you. And nothing is more disappointing than a killboard full of nothing but MTU's. May as well be ratting. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12892
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Posted - 2016.08.27 12:45:55 -
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Taishoku Mayaki wrote:Just to re-iterate a point the experts have already no doubt made. Don't fly t3You will kill plenty of MTU's sure, but not a single PVE'r is going to bother engaging you. And nothing is more disappointing than a killboard full of nothing but MTU's. May as well be ratting.
That's not a problem if your main purpose doing this is simply to destroy as many of those damned things as possible :)
This dual MASB Jackdaw also works wonders:
[Jackdaw, Belladonita's Ibis]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
'Stalwart' Particle Field Magnifier
EM Ward Amplifier II
Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster
Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Core Defense Field Extender II
Nova Rage Rocket x1890
Navy Cap Booster 50 x239
Sisters Combat Scanner Probe x8
Mjolnir Rage Rocket x2655
You could probably replace the CDFE for something more useful, but it was all I had lying around
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
424
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Posted - 2016.08.28 01:58:33 -
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Taishoku Mayaki wrote:Just to re-iterate a point the experts have already no doubt made. Don't fly t3You will kill plenty of MTU's sure, but not a single PVE'r is going to bother engaging you. And nothing is more disappointing than a killboard full of nothing but MTU's. May as well be ratting.
AmIdoingitrite?
This would cure me of the fear...
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