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MidnightWyvern
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Posted - 2016.08.29 16:17:11 -
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Triggered Liberal wrote:Querns wrote:Triggered Liberal wrote:So RIP my entire community. This seems like a concerted attack on my alliance. Your community is based on offgrid boosting? Yup. We mine while we work. The boosts were what brought us together. Now having to have an orca per belt will tear us apart. Remember the part of the DevBlog that mentioned the new Porpoise Industrial Command Ship? I'm will to bet that's going to be a BC sized ship that can fit Mining Foreman Links. I'm willing to bet they already expected Orca spam to be untenable and that's why they're adding a new ship to balance that out.
Obvioulsy that's 100% speculation, but why else would they need to add another Industrial Command Ship?
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MidnightWyvern
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Posted - 2016.08.29 16:53:41 -
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Linus Gorp wrote:MidnightWyvern wrote:Triggered Liberal wrote:Querns wrote:Triggered Liberal wrote:So RIP my entire community. This seems like a concerted attack on my alliance. Your community is based on offgrid boosting? Yup. We mine while we work. The boosts were what brought us together. Now having to have an orca per belt will tear us apart. Remember the part of the DevBlog that mentioned the new Porpoise Industrial Command Ship? I'm will to bet that's going to be a BC sized ship that can fit Mining Foreman Links. I'm willing to bet they already expected Orca spam to be untenable and that's why they're adding a new ship to balance that out. Obvioulsy that's 100% speculation, but why else would they need to add another Industrial Command Ship? They said already that we're getting an ORE battlecruiser (cost ~40 to 50 million) for exactly that reason. Ah, thanks for the info!
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MidnightWyvern
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Posted - 2016.08.29 17:04:30 -
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Alhira Katserna wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Vidork Drako wrote:Its a very nice change because offgrid boost had no sense. Great job. Now a question who will come back again and again until we got an answer : Q : Will you refund all SP currently allocated in Leadership skills? Lets us know please. A simple yes or no will be enough. No. The skills will all continue to exist (under slightly different names) and will impact the same type of gameplay, so there are no plans to refund any skills with this change. Vidork Drako wrote: Another question : Q : I see you gave a weapon timer to booster, will they also receive a suspect time ?
Nope, just a weapons timer. Tbh not refunding these skills is a kinda **** move. A lot of people only trained Leadership V some even Wing Command V only to pass on boosts under the current system. The majority of them won´t train booster skills once they´re changed and thus you leave them with an useless skill. It's only useless if they NEVER in all their time in EVE ever try to use Command Bursts, which seems kinda unlikely.
I trained my Leadership skills solely for the passive bonuses, and now that they'll be bonusing Command Bursts I'm actually now training this character for Command Destroyers so I can start using them.
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MidnightWyvern
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Posted - 2016.08.29 17:09:46 -
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Draconas109 wrote:I'm going to kindly remind who puts food on your table and a house over your heads.
Your customers who pay cash money to play this game, and when you **** off your customers, they'll take their money with them and go somewhere else.
Just putting that out there. Implying you speak for anyone but yourself.
Getting cold and lonely on that pedestal?
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MidnightWyvern
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Posted - 2016.08.29 17:20:10 -
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Vic Vorlon wrote:This looks like really interesting set of changes. It will a dynamic aspect to fleet fights, wherein you'll have to move around to catch boosts during the fight at regular intervals, instead of them just being "always there". Cool stuff, can't wait to try it!
Idea: ram the enemy boost ship, if you can't kill it, to get it out of position.
To those complaining about its effect on mining; if mining gets more difficult and less people show up to do it, the price of minerals will increase, making mining a more attractive option. I think mining will just find a new balance and group of people will to do it. That's a surprisingly reasonable outlook for the Comments thread of a Dev Blog.
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MidnightWyvern
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Posted - 2016.08.29 17:26:41 -
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Draconas109 wrote:MidnightWyvern wrote:Draconas109 wrote:I'm going to kindly remind who puts food on your table and a house over your heads.
Your customers who pay cash money to play this game, and when you **** off your customers, they'll take their money with them and go somewhere else.
Just putting that out there. Implying you speak for anyone but yourself. Getting cold and lonely on that pedestal? I'm not the only one not thrilled with this change if you'd spend 5 seconds looking at other posts and their likes going up. Because Forum Likes are how we judge good or bad ideas, right? Using a populist approach like that sure worked wonders for Sony Online Entertainment with their still massively successful game Planetside 2.
Oh wait...
Sarcasm aside, how many times have we seen people initially freak out in the Comments thread on the DevBlog and then those same people are playing the game months later, still bitching but not having left like they swore they were going to?
**** changes in online games, man. World of Warcraft has apparently been dumbing down their gameplay more and more with each successive release and they still have millions of subscribers, many of whom regularly swear they're quitting as soon as the next update drops and have been doing so for years without ever actually leaving permanently.
Off-grid boosting was becoming a problem, and in the best case it represented yet another requirement for dedicated afk alts in order to be competetive. Is that really good design? Is that really the best way for people to have FUN in a game? Not being able to know if the small gang that your small gang just engaged with might have a fully tricked out Command Ship running Mindlink-buffed Warfare Links sitting in a safe?
Let's not forget how many times in that DevBlog CCP reiterated that they are going to be changing aspects of that design proposal based on all the player feedback they get. If you don't like the changes, post suggestions for how you'd like them to work and stop just threatening to drop your subscription.
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MidnightWyvern
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Posted - 2016.08.29 17:37:02 -
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Linus Gorp wrote:MidnightWyvern wrote: **** changes in online games, man. World of Warcraft has apparently been dumbing down their gameplay more and more with each successive release and they still have millions of subscribers, many of whom regularly swear they're quitting as soon as the next update drops and have been doing so for years without ever actually leaving permanently.
That's because WoW is just right on their intellectual level, while they're too dumb for pretty much everything else that isn't a WoW clone. WOW. That is a hilarious level of elitism.
Have you made suggestions in this thread on how to modify this new system in a way you feel benefits your playstyle better? If not, you should do that.
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MidnightWyvern
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Posted - 2016.08.29 17:39:34 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Arrendis wrote: 4. Hel if I know.
So call it 1 out of 4!
Promoting ice consumption I guess. And being able to switch to different types of boosts. Yeah, people who run boosts are actually getting buffed in some ways by this change. Being able to change boosts on the fly is a really cool change which has made me interested in a system I previously considered boring and didn't want to dedicate an alt to.
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MidnightWyvern
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Posted - 2016.08.29 18:08:20 -
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Airi Cho wrote:Linus Gorp wrote:MidnightWyvern wrote:Linus Gorp wrote:MidnightWyvern wrote: **** changes in online games, man. World of Warcraft has apparently been dumbing down their gameplay more and more with each successive release and they still have millions of subscribers, many of whom regularly swear they're quitting as soon as the next update drops and have been doing so for years without ever actually leaving permanently.
That's because WoW is just right on their intellectual level, while they're too dumb for pretty much everything else that isn't a WoW clone. WOW. That is a hilarious level of elitism. Have you made suggestions in this thread on how to modify this new system in a way you feel benefits your playstyle better? If not, you should do that. Page 1. Links fittable on Blops. Though I honestly don't really care all that much about getting links. I don't need them. you can blobs bridge a T3 for links? What he said.
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MidnightWyvern
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Posted - 2016.08.29 18:18:22 -
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Sulvorati Kunoki wrote:Currently I can passively boost a fleet from which ever ship I wish to fly. Under the new system it seems I'll have to fly a ship that can take fleet boost modules. For small fleet combat that seems like a big negative change. I don't have any issues with having to be on grid or to have active boosters modules or being made visible as a fleet booster in some way, just would like to be able to do it from whatever ship I choose to fly.
I'm also disappointed that the time I invested in training Leadership skills is being totally nullified without any recompense.
Just use a Command Destroyer. They're very useful already even without the current Warfare Links. Command Bursts are just going to make them even more useful.
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MidnightWyvern
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Posted - 2016.08.29 18:40:01 -
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Sulvorati Kunoki wrote:MidnightWyvern wrote:Sulvorati Kunoki wrote:Currently I can passively boost a fleet from which ever ship I wish to fly. Under the new system it seems I'll have to fly a ship that can take fleet boost modules. For small fleet combat that seems like a big negative change. I don't have any issues with having to be on grid or to have active boosters modules or being made visible as a fleet booster in some way, just would like to be able to do it from whatever ship I choose to fly.
I'm also disappointed that the time I invested in training Leadership skills is being totally nullified without any recompense.
Just use a Command Destroyer. They're very useful already even without the current Warfare Links. Command Bursts are just going to make them even more useful. I don't doubt that they are useful. However the point was that I can currently passive boost in ANY ship and if I choose to I can get in a Command ship and actively boost some more. I don't like the reduction in choice that limits my particular game play. Having said that I'm sure I can adapt. Okay, I see where you're coming from. Yeah, removing options probably looks bad right now, but I'm sure this will be of benefit in the long run. If you think about it, it'll actually allow you to engage in the small-gang PvP you love with less risk of off-grid links ruining your day in exchange for losing those passive skill bonuses.
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