Demangel
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.19 23:52:00 -
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Sucky thing is, I LOVE the myrm, and gallente ships but was never into drone speccing.
The problem arrises when I discover that drone ships are now in.
While thats great and all and it's nice to see gallente kicking butt for once, I want balance, and whats more I want to use guns darnit.
I prefer to use drones as backup, added damage, utility.
This made the thorax, Brutix, and megathron natural ships for me to gravitate toward.
However some things have made my preffered style of fighting, second rate...
Nos: This is the big balance killer IMHO for drone ships versus turret ships. As drone ships do not rely on guns, they can do away with them altogether... They can still dish out good or great DPS with drones, kill your cap with nos, and eat your incoming fire with tank like nobodies business... It's a lethal tripple threat. This I consider to be part of the real problem with drone ships. Nos doesn't benefit any other ship type the way it does a drone ship. While a drone ship DOES give up DPS to use nos, a turret ship has to give up a LOT more DPS to use nos than a drone ship does. It's not that I don't think drone ships should be able to make such great use of nos, it's just that nos shouldn't be so powerful. Remember, no other ship gains the benefits a drone ship does from nos use.
Drone size: Another issue lies with the fact that drone ships are the only ships remaining in even that can fit weapons of a class larger than the ship and still be viable. You can't fit even 4x large blasters on a brutix can you? I know I can't. But a myrm can fit 4 heavy +5 lights, or 5 heavies right out of the box. Heavies are BS scale drones... Ishkur being another example, able to fit cruiser sized drones on a frigate. But the Myrm unlike the ishkur, has a drone damage and HP bonus identical to the domi. This means it's capable of dishing out BS level damage easily... Although it has fewer drones, thats not as big an issue as it sounds, as a drone user, I can tell you, at close range, unless your in an insta lock ship, or a smartie settup, I can keep my drones alive a LONG time... Every second you spend trying to lock them down, I'm ticking away on my fingers before I rescoop em and relaunch em... Does that diminish my DPS, sure... but it also robs you of your chance to take em down... And at close range, I can rescoop and relaunch pretty quickly.
So how do we fix this? TBH I think the only fix thats really needed, is to nerf nos, and see how the cookie crumbles from there. Afterward, it should be easier to see exactly what the problems are.
To put it another way, to nerf the myrm without first seeing the effects of a nos nerf, could put the ship into the stinkhouse... BEcause a nos nerf simply HAS to be on the horizon... it's too loudly whined about, and really is an issue... Minor compared to nanophoons, but still an issue.
So nerf the nos, my guess is the myrm will still be overpowered in some regards, but not by the landslide it will be if you nerf the mrym, THEN nos...
And for the record: Higher Tier ships are SUPPOSED to be more advanced. Hence the higher tier designation. Thats not the same as saying the thorax is superior in every way to a vexor... At least it shouldn't mean the same thing.
As far as gallente and tiers go:
Lower tier has traditionaly meant: Drone boat with gun support.
Higher tier has meant: gun boat with drone support.
With the new BC's, the oposite has occured. So I don't think I would be horribly upset if the drone ship became the brutix, and the gunship became the myrm. It could be as simple as:
Swap the 10% to drone damage and HP bonus to the brutix.
Swap the drone bays completely.
Do some magic with the slots so the brutix has a drone boat slot layout, and the mrym the gun slot layout.
Give the myrm a meaningful damage bonus to hybrids (with the same bonuses for example as the hype). Course then all races would need a similar change... or both ships will become garbage.
Galaxion > If you drove a car shaped like a thorax women would call you
Demangel > Dude... I would call..
Demangel > wait that sounded g@y I bet.
Galaxion > Just a bit.
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