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Nicolai Serkanner
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:11:24 -
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https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/introducing-clone-states-and-the-future-of-access-to-eve-online/
Thoughts? |
Red fall
Pure Pleassue Seaker
What Alliance
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:16:13 -
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First in the threadnoguh to be |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:22:42 -
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CCP is knocking on the big steel door of "unintended consequences" here. |
Judaa K'Marr
Power-Hug Training Bootcamp
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:24:31 -
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Posting in an epic thread. |
napaCeN
Red Tsunami
Legio De Mortem
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:25:19 -
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its not actualy free to play cause u will have 2 seperate clones, and i really like this idea, the best thing is that u wont have acces to ur main clone(with all skills) until u reactivate, but till then u can still have some fun and not rush to get a plex or rush to buy gametime or so, with this feature everything will be chill :3 and i dont think the basic alpha clones will have more then 2m sp, so yea, i think its great, cant wait for this to hit, a lot more people will try to come and play, knowing taht they dont have anymore just 14/21 days to try something out :D, so yea, its great in my oppinion :) |
Yossarian Toralen
M and M Enterpises
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:26:00 -
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What could go wrong? |
Solecist Project
32748
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:31:31 -
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This means they make enough money from selling cosmetics.
That's not too bad.....
I got to read this again...
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
8 Golden Rules of EVE
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Princess Adhara
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:34:23 -
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Posting in a "Eve is Dying" thread \o/
For real, now... |
Ginger Naari
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:38:52 -
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napaCeN wrote:its not actualy free to play cause u will have 2 seperate clones, and i really like this idea, the best thing is that u wont have acces to ur main clone(with all skills) until u reactivate, but till then u can still have some fun and not rush to get a plex or rush to buy gametime or so, with this feature everything will be chill :3 and i dont think the basic alpha clones will have more then 2m sp, so yea, i think its great, cant wait for this to hit, a lot more people will try to come and play, knowing taht they dont have anymore just 14/21 days to try something out :D, so yea, its great in my oppinion :)
I understand that the basic Alpha clone will have up to 5m sp, but some skills are banned. |
Jack Haakaari
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:39:22 -
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It's gonna end up as people getting 200 alt accounts to go out and bot mine in ventures.
If they get banned, they can now just make more accounts free. |
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Alder Balder
Capital Gains Inc.
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:40:36 -
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There sure will be a lot of bots mining. I think this will be a challenge for the eve economy. |
Solecist Project
32748
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:41:56 -
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I... i...
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... have nothing to say on the matter.
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
8 Golden Rules of EVE
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Jack Haakaari
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:43:02 -
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Alder Balder wrote:There sure will be a lot of bots mining. I think this will be a challenge for the eve economy.
More than that, just the sheer number of nubbers flooding in, doing PI and stuff, without botting even, is gonna stress the market hard. |
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
1600
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:46:49 -
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Yes, I made it before the majority of the tears!
To all the people who called me crazy when I always said EVE would go F2P within 2 years: Suck it, b*tches 
Anyway, on topic; very good development that was bound to happen sooner or later. And executed in the only way that makes sense. Thank you CCP for doing what is best to keep EVE alive for many years to come.
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Dopenose Lameth
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP
The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:47:45 -
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Question: Can i now get 50 free acoounts that are ready-to-go for suicide ganking freighters and the like? Seems bad. |
napaCeN
Red Tsunami
Legio De Mortem
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:48:28 -
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whats the difference now and later for botting with miners or pi staff???
only difference is that now they need to make new accoutns every 14 days, so i dont think thats gonna be a problem. |
MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
328
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:48:53 -
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I honestly can't find anything wrong with this. If ganking is a problem, they already said they'll restrict Safety settings so Alphas can't aggress in high-sec. If the same person keeps running bots, CCP can ban all those Alphas and then ban the Main of the person doing it.
This is yet another huge change to EVE Online that everyone is freaking the **** out about that will eventually just become part of our day-to-day lives in-game and have negligible detrimental effect.
I mean, there's still going to be a threadnaught, but hopefully people will eventually chill out and think reasonably about this.
Rattati Senpai noticed us! See you in the next FPS!
Alts: Saray Wyvern, Mobius Wyvern (Dust 514)
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Dixegu Smith
Storm Technologies
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:50:36 -
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Schocked when i did read the dev-blog title, super-calm when i did finish read the devblog and realized CCP has taken very good care of potential abuses and hopefully WILL.
Thats the only thing I am afraid of, potential abuses of established eve-players. |
InterStellar Architect
InterStellar Architects Corporation
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:51:18 -
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Free to play with a Premium option is not bad. Many games thrive under this model, its like giving people an extended trial period.
For example Blade & Soul, Guild Wars 2, etc. they all do good under the Free to Play model. If they can get people hooked, then people will spend money on the premium subscription and microtransactions.
So they are facing the same challenge, they need to get people hooked.
Any game developer's goal is to get as many players as possible, cater to the mass audience. So CCP needs to ask themselves: how likely will players be hooked in this game? When all you do during PvP is hit F1 - F4, and have to dedicate at least 2 hours for an op. Otherwise you just have to sit on the gate and gate camp.
Eve Online is like the baseball of video games, it's very slow paced.
I've been playing for 5, and probably only 10% of my time has been spent PvP'ing. The most fun I've ever had was playing the market. The biggest adrenaline rush I've had was buying some assets, and watch as it increase 10x in value. PvP in eve pales in Comparison. So basically, I mainly played Eve Online for the market / industrial aspects.
For Player vs. Player, Guild Wars 2 is much more fun than Eve.
For Micromanagement, Dota 2 is much more fun than Eve.
For Strategy, Starcraft is much more fun than Eve.
So Eve Online is not a master in any of these types of gameplay. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
7817
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:52:54 -
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Solecist Project wrote:I... i...
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... have nothing to say on the matter.
I have a lot to say, but it's mostly speculation, and mostly stuff I've said before. I've read the devblog, seen CCP Seagull explain it on YouTube just now, and I can't say I'm not curious as to how this is gonna end up, but my YT comment summarises my feelings on the matter - and so begins the final death knell of EVE Online.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Sonya Corvinus
Static-Noise
Upholders
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:53:31 -
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Jack Haakaari wrote:More than that, just the sheer number of nubbers flooding in, doing PI and stuff, without botting even, is gonna stress the market hard.
While I don't like this idea, they at least aren't allowing any PI skills on these new clones |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:54:16 -
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MidnightWyvern wrote:I honestly can't find anything wrong with this. If ganking is a problem, they already said they'll restrict Safety settings so Alphas can't aggress in high-sec. If the same person keeps running bots, CCP can ban all those Alphas and then ban the Main of the person doing it.
This is yet another huge change to EVE Online that everyone is freaking the **** out about that will eventually just become part of our day-to-day lives in-game and have negligible detrimental effect.
I mean, there's still going to be a threadnaught, but hopefully people will eventually chill out and think reasonably about this.
There are plenty of potential problems. Like proliferating drone ratting alts (assigning drones to a trigger ship) Free Venture mining fleets depressing prices for miners who actually pay for the game. Multiboxing FoF missile Caracal fleets trashing FW lvl 4 missions and killing anything that comes on grid in a wave of auto target fire.
On and On.
CCP and some of yall ain't thinking this one through all the way yet. That's a big problem, lots of CCP guys are PVPrs and don't tend to think in terms of Shekel gathering like many players do.
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Felo Maxun
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
122
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:55:07 -
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Couldn't be more excited. This will help eve become more relevant in the current climate, plus more people to shoot. |
Solecist Project
32749
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:56:44 -
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Now I understand why the golden rules have been posted ...
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
8 Golden Rules of EVE
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
8655
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:56:48 -
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Looks like its time for Doc to follow Tippa and Mr. Garibaldi beyond the Rim. 2016 has been a helluva year for losing people, making bad decisions, and unintended consequences. The EA rot has become terminal.
Especially comical are the following:
CCP wrote:
We have not decided...
We donGÇÖt think clone states will have much impact...
We donGÇÖt expect a significant increase in this kind of activity..
WeGÇÖve deliberately tried to limit this behavior..
Doc's personal favorite:
CCP wrote:
We are creating and implementing concrete plans to make sure we can provide the same level of support for all of our players
CCP, you can barely provide acceptable levels of customer support now. The kinds of players you are trying to attract won't put up with what you consider adequate, and they won't accept your usual platitudes.
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper: 'Hodor'.
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Roenok Baalnorn
Sadistically Sinister
315
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:59:53 -
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Jack Haakaari wrote:It's gonna end up as people getting 200 alt accounts to go out and bot mine in ventures.
If they get banned, they can now just make more accounts free.
Can only use your faction ships, so unless ORE became a race lately, cant use a venture. They would have to use regular frigates and cruisers with no hold. So botting will be quite difficult. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
7818
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Posted - 2016.08.31 15:01:40 -
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I agree with Doc. Free to play is a cancer on gaming, I don't care what form it's in. Subscriptions are cheap, 50c a day. If that's a barrier for entry, then you've got bigger problems than online gaming. But it's not a barrier to entry, what it is is a filter. Jita's about to fill up with a whole lot more throw-away gold spamming accounts, I can guarantee it.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Varcutii Renalard
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Posted - 2016.08.31 15:02:08 -
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CCP, when will you be removing attributes? |
Pandora Carrollon
Dawn of a New Horizon
The Republic.
641
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Posted - 2016.08.31 15:02:40 -
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It won't have any impact on me unless they allow the Alpha clones to multi-box, then I'll get one alpha clone set to do lower end combat/support/logistics while I do other stuff with my main. I'll pay for one account, not two. So I see a type of parity there, but they should probably limit a particular IP address to just 1 Alpha account on at a time or proliferation will go nuts.
My other comment is they have the clone name backwards according to 'pack' structure. The Alpha 'pack' member is the leader and respected one. Omegas are the bottom of the barrel disposable ones. I realize they are doing this because 'Alpha' is first, and thus lowest common denominator, but since the pack concept directly opposes that from the perception they are giving, it's probably a bad naming scheme. They should do it simply with "Basic Clone" and "Advanced Clone".
Otherwise, this has been expected for a long, long time now.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
2736
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Posted - 2016.08.31 15:08:38 -
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Ok, that just happened...
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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