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Vector en Dancer Cosmic Disco Zealots 0	Posted - 2016.09.02 12:12:49 - [1] - Quote Good Afternoon, I've recently joined EVE and with the help of my brother I've used some Injectors he gave me to speed up my SP a little. He is currently doing missions for the Republic Fleet but I've noticed alot of the missions are against Serpentis. I was thinking of using a Myrmidon or a Brutix but I cant use Medium T2 Rails/Blasters yet and skilling now for T2 Drones. I am also open to using Amarr ships also if they are better. Personally I love the Hyperion and would eventually like to use that ship for LvL4's if possible. Could anyone help me with a fit? Would 1 x Medium Armor Repairer be sufficient for Lvl 2/3's Regards, Vector
Flitz Farseeker Mass HaVoK KAOS Unlimited 30	Posted - 2016.09.02 12:26:47 - [2] - Quote Myrm over Brutix for missions (although either will handle L3s). If one repper is not enough, you messed up.
Reinhardt Kreiss 43	Posted - 2016.09.02 12:31:21 - [3] - Quote All depends on what you other goals are, if you chose to fly Minmatar ships and now run into Serpentis a whole lot you can just change your ammo for projectiles (Phased Plasma) and you'll be fine. No need to switch to other ships. If you train up Gallente anyway then it's personal preference. Drone ships are very versatile, tend to be easier to use and having drone skills is always handy. Then again turret ships are also very powerful in their own right and any support skill you train for turrets affects all turret types, which makes it easier to cross train later on. Having said that, on most bigger ships you're going to need drone skills, if only rudimentary ones, so training drones early on makes good sense. On T2 weapons, they're not really needed at all unless you want to use T2 ammo. With all other skills being equal the difference between a meta 4 (best named) and T2 turret is 10% increased damage at best, 2% per lvl of specialisation skill which you probably won't get beyond lvl 3 or 4 anyway. So realistically the performance difference between a T2 and a Prototype Gauss rail gun is probably 6% while requiring a lot more power grid, cpu and cap. Just ignore it for now, anyone who told you "T2 or bust" lied to you.
Vector en Dancer Cosmic Disco Zealots 0	Posted - 2016.09.02 12:34:49 - [4] - Quote Flitz Farseeker wrote: Myrm over Brutix for missions (although either will handle L3s). If one repper is not enough, you messed up. Thankyou Flitz. I was thinking:- LOWS Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 2 x Hardeners II (Mission Specific) Medium Armor Repairer II Drone Damage Amp II MIDS 10MN Afterburner II Large Cap Battery Unsure what else to put on the ship? Is the Tank too much?
Reinhardt Kreiss 45	Posted - 2016.09.02 12:48:45 - [5] - Quote [Myrmidon, LVL 3 low SP - Serpentis] Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Prototype Armor Thermal Hardener I Prototype Armor Thermal Hardener I Prototype Armor Kinetic Hardener I Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II 10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner Medium Micro Jump Drive Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery Denny Enduring Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Optimal Range Script Denny Enduring Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Optimal Range Script Civilian Gatling Railgun, Civilian Railgun Charge Medium Knave Scoped Energy Nosferatu Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer Small Tractor Beam I Drone Link Augmentor I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Federation Navy Garde x4 Caldari Navy Warden x3 Hobgoblin I x5 Tracking Speed Script x2
Flitz Farseeker Mass HaVoK KAOS Unlimited 31	Posted - 2016.09.02 12:49:44 - [6] - Quote Vector en Dancer wrote: I was thinking:- LOWS Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 2 x Hardeners II (Mission Specific) Medium Armor Repairer II Drone Damage Amp II MIDS 10MN Afterburner II Large Cap Battery Unsure what else to put on the ship? Is the Tank too much? I tend to over tank my fits: [Myrmidon, 800 Plate] Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II 800mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Drone Damage Amplifier II 10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner Stasis Webifier II Faint Scoped Warp Disruptor Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script Cap Recharger II 250mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M Medium Drone Durability Enhancer I Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Ogre II x4 Salvage Drone I x5 Need to juggle the drones and watch out they dont take aggro. Another option is to replace some of the guns with Drone Links to boost drone range and use MJD to keep your distance and engage with sentries. In this case can have (a lot) less tank and more Drone Damage Amps. Note the tackle is there just in case, although webber can help against frigate rats. This is not a PVP fit.
Reinhardt Kreiss 45	Posted - 2016.09.02 12:51:12 - [7] - Quote Why are you posting a PVP fit in an obvious PVE thread? And a bad one at that?
Flitz Farseeker Mass HaVoK KAOS Unlimited 31	Posted - 2016.09.02 13:01:32 - [8] - Quote Reinhardt Kreiss wrote: Why are you posting a PVP fit in an obvious PVE thread? And a bad one at that? I specifically stated it is NOT a PVP fit. Although I do believe I did once catch a nosy scout in 0.0 with a similar build. PVP fit would have blasters (or autocannons) instead of rails, faction or T2 armmo and either a dual or triple rep setup with cap injectors or full hull tank. Omni-tank fit is purely because I am too lazy to refit, although might switch out one of the EANMs for an Explosive hardener for specific missions.
Vector en Dancer Cosmic Disco Zealots 0	Posted - 2016.09.02 13:55:09 - [9] - Quote Reinhardt Kreiss wrote: [Myrmidon, LVL 3 low SP - Serpentis] Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Prototype Armor Thermal Hardener I Prototype Armor Thermal Hardener I Prototype Armor Kinetic Hardener I Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II 10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner Medium Micro Jump Drive Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery Denny Enduring Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Optimal Range Script Denny Enduring Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Optimal Range Script Civilian Gatling Railgun, Civilian Railgun Charge Medium Knave Scoped Energy Nosferatu Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer Small Tractor Beam I Drone Link Augmentor I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Federation Navy Garde x4 Caldari Navy Warden x3 Hobgoblin I x5 Tracking Speed Script x2 Thankyou very much for the fit. I will check this out tonight. I'll be honest I do like to get up close and personal so I might swap the omni links for nav comps or have one of each. cant use sentries yet so will have to use orge's. Not long tho as I think I plan on going for t2 sentries and then t2 large rails to get a hyperion
Paranoid Loyd 9507	Posted - 2016.09.02 14:00:13 - [10] - Quote Myrm is the safer route, Brutix is more efficient. Waiting for drones to fly to the target is inefficient. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5462745#post5462745 "There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix Fix the Prospect!

Kitty Bear Harbingers of Chaos Inc Black Pearl Alliance 1568	Posted - 2016.09.02 15:32:49 - [11] - Quote Both will be fine. If your plan is - Dominix for L4's : Use the Myrmidon - Hyperion or Megathron for L4's : Use the Brutix You can use Projectiles on the Myrm to reduce cap needs You can even shield tank it
elitatwo Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance 1390	Posted - 2016.09.02 23:15:53 - [12] - Quote This is more of a question of taste, not us. If you like to have the server do the missions for you, you will like the Myrmidon and if you like to fly ships, you will like the Brutix more. Since you are aiming at the Hyperion, my suggestion is the Brutix. Eve Minions is recruiting. Learn from about pvp, learn about ships and how to fly them correctly. Small gang and solo action in high, low and nullsec and w-space alike. We will teach you everything you need and want to know.
Tsukino Stareine Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found 1721	Posted - 2016.09.03 00:05:09 - [13] - Quote I used a sentry myrm to great effect even in level 4 missions. Passive shield tank and artillery in the highs to supplement my drone damage.
Zhilia Mann Tide Way Out Productions 2690	Posted - 2016.09.03 05:21:14 - [14] - Quote Myrm is the safer, easier ship. I'd still take a Brutix. Something along these lines: [Brutix, L3 rails low skill] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Medium Armor Repairer II Armor Thermal Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 10MN Afterburner II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Cap Recharger II 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M [empty high slot] Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Range and speed are part of your tank. Blap things at distance and you'll be in fine shape. Brutix can also shield tank reasonably well: [Brutix, L3 rails shields low skill] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II 10MN Afterburner II Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I Thermal Dissipation Field II Kinetic Deflection Field II 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M [empty high slot] Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I It's light on cap; manage it well. Passive tank is... not especially the best way to go, but ok: [Brutix, L3 rails shields old skool passive low skill] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Power Diagnostic System II Shield Power Relay II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II 10MN Afterburner II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M [empty high slot] Medium Core Defense Field Purger I Medium Core Defense Field Purger I Medium Core Defense Field Purger I That would do the trick in L3s. Cap management becomes basically a non-issue. If you find you're not tanking hard enough, swap a TE for another PDU (or SPR, but that's going to compromise cap).
Vector en Dancer Cosmic Disco Zealots 0	Posted - 2016.09.03 20:49:50 - [15] - Quote So In the end i went for the thorax for lvl 2s and then brutix for lvl 3s and hopefully hyperion for lvl 4s All rail fitted and with light drones for those pesky frigates.. Thankyou all for the help
Tiddle Jr Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 888	Posted - 2016.09.07 02:23:28 - [16] - Quote Why not to try lite version of the Iskshtar? Vexor Navy Issue would do everything for you which Brutix and Myrmidon do but this ship is more flexible. "The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Vector en Dancer Cosmic Disco Zealots 1	Posted - 2016.09.15 13:17:10 - [17] - Quote Tiddle Jr wrote: Why not to try lite version of the Iskshtar? Vexor Navy Issue would do everything for you which Brutix and Myrmidon do but this ship is more flexible. Thankyou I will definately try it out. Heard good things in game about the VNI. "Science is a differential equation. Religion is a boundary condition" GÇ£One day, in retrospect, the years of struggle will strike you as the most beautiful.GÇ¥
erg cz Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords 485	Posted - 2016.09.15 15:00:39 - [18] - Quote Brutix navy issue. You will get tracking bonus, so your guns will finnaly do the job. Mission running means to adapt your damage type to the mission's NPC. For example you will be strugling with lasers against angel cartel NPC. Drones is the gallente and amarr way to adapt the damage type, just like missiles for caldari or projectiles for minmatars. And you will find no better gallente boat to run L4 missions, than Dominix. Its unique drone range bonus let you range tank rats and use almost all your slots to dmagae modules. Later you will want to switch to Rattlesnake or Machariel, but they both utilize gallente battle ship skills. Untill your battlecruiser skills are at least at 4 you are better off with Gnosis for level 3 missions. Even if you can finish mission in other ship it does not mean you should. ISK/time ratio can be very bad if you use Hyperion in missions with lots of ECM. Drones will keep fire even if you lost the lock, same auto-guided missiles. But if you dumped to 10-20 km range during Blockade mission, for example, you are pretty much delayed in hyperion, megathron or any other non-drone / missile ship. Absolutely free trial extension. Just click the link and get your extra week of Eve for free!
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 18094	Posted - 2016.09.15 22:52:44 - [19] - Quote Reinhardt Kreiss wrote: Why are you posting a PVP fit in an obvious PVE thread? And a bad one at that? i pve in pvp fits literally every time i could be arsed . Click me =]\|[=
Paranoid Loyd 9571	Posted - 2016.09.16 00:52:07 - [20] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Reinhardt Kreiss wrote: Why are you posting a PVP fit in an obvious PVE thread? And a bad one at that? i pve in pvp fits literally every time i could be arsed . Yeah but you actually pull the trigger when the opportunity presents itself. "There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix Fix the Prospect!



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