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Sovy Kurosei
Amarr
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.17 08:05:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Selnix
Will this also mean that the bubbles will be able to halt a warp that has already been initiated? Being unable to stop a ship simply because it started warp to somewhere else (regardless of how slow it is going at the time) is kinda saddening.
I can see this working only if interdictors are immune to their own bubbles. Otherwise you'll very likely lose your ship and pod from anti-support vessels.
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Awox
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.03.17 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sovy Kurosei
I can see this working only if interdictors are immune to their own bubbles. Otherwise you'll very likely lose your ship and pod from anti-support vessels.
Uhm. If you're too much of a chicken**** to stay and fight then you can always:
a) jump gate
b) MWD away
c) fight, ffs.
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Rab
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Posted - 2007.03.17 08:43:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Phoenix Lord
Originally by: Armin Novastorm
What does "Wrecks that contain loot can now be salvaged without having to remove the loot first. " mean?
Will the loot dissappear? Will it appear in a jetcan? What happens to it?
You can salvage a wreck when it still has loot in it, but after you salvage it, any loot still in it dissapears with the wreck. Thats how i understand it anyway. Unless they changed the fact that wrecks go poof after salvaging.
The loot is left in a jetcan after you salvage the wreck on the test server.
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Juwi Kotch
Gallente
VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
Galactic-Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.17 08:47:00 -
[34]
Many good changes and improvements, but I'm missing one:
Contracts -> A "search over all regions" option was added to the contract search window.
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Sovy Kurosei
Amarr
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.17 09:03:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Awox
Uhm. If you're too much of a chicken**** to stay and fight then you can always:
a) jump gate
b) MWD away
c) fight, ffs.
The first is irrelevent. You can do it regardless if you can or can't warp out. The second and third are possible if you face up against a small gang. 
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RaWBLooD
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Posted - 2007.03.17 09:18:00 -
[36]
Originally by: F2C MaDMaXX
Linkage
All good stuff, go read!
Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.
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Wrayeth
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.03.17 09:37:00 -
[37]
Tux clarifies the nano-nerf:
Originally by: Tuxford
I don't think nano battleship is anything that was ever planned by anyone at CCP it just sort of happend,... twice (or more?). I'd definitly say that they are still viable, of course you would have problems with missile ships but in reality, turret ships aren't going to hit you and they won't get in web range if you're faster.
(Found in this thread.)
As you can see, this doesn't fix the nano situation.
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Laurelle
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Posted - 2007.03.17 09:40:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Juwi Kotch
Many good changes and improvements, but I'm missing one:
Contracts -> A "search over all regions" option was added to the contract search window.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.03.17 09:54:00 -
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No counter to warp bubbles. 
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Deva Blackfire
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.03.17 10:16:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
No counter to warp bubbles.
1. kill enemies
2. MWD
3. use jumpgate
4. smartbomb bubble
4 counters for 1 module? Pretty good.
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.17 10:25:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Sovy Kurosei
The first is irrelevent. You can do it regardless if you can or can't warp out. The second and third are possible if you face up against a small gang.
Just because you can do it always does not make it an any less effecient counter.
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Sovy Kurosei
Amarr
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.17 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Aramendel
Just because you can do it always does not make it an any less effecient counter.
I wasn't arguing that it was an efficient counter, I was saying that it was irrelevent since you can jump regardless if you can or cannot warp in a bubble.
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.17 11:09:00 -
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And I am saying it isn't irrelevent just because you can do it always. Drop the bubble, get to the gate, jump out. Dictor saved.
Where-is-the-problem?
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.17 11:17:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
No counter to warp bubbles.
1. kill enemies
2. MWD
3. use jumpgate
4. smartbomb bubble
4 counters for 1 module? Pretty good.
You forgot:
5: fire your DoomDasy Device.
To youre suggestes solution (not counters)
1: Kill enemies - usually it is 5-10 to 1, useless solution;
2: MWD possible but nerfed in this patch;
3: use jumpgate, 12 km while webbed to 1 m/s;
4: smartbomb bubble: again possible but with little chance of success, as you will be killed very fast by the 5-10 ganktards.
Bubbles have still infinite strenght, and that is wrong.
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.17 11:24:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Aramendel on 17/03/2007 11:27:45
3.) Despite popular opinion you do not get webbed instantly, nor does webbing instantly reduce your speed. Sure, a hauler with 5 cargo extenders and a t1 AB won't make it to the gate. Or a similary fitted ratting BS. Too bad.
Ships who are designed for that however do not have any problems. A blockade runner can do it easily. Childs play for frigates. Most cruisers with a MWD will make it, too. BCs and BSs with a travelling setup should also have enough momentum to bridge the distance to the gate.
The campers bring a specialized ship to make the bubble, you need to bring a specialized ship to avoid it.
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End Yourself
Core Domination
Big Bang Quantum
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Posted - 2007.03.17 11:30:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Venkul Mul
3: use jumpgate, 12 km while webbed to 1 m/s;
Why do people allways have to post about stuff they don't know **** about?!?
You will have passed more than the first half of the 12km til hostiles even got a lock on you if you have an mwd fitted and the rest of it you will close in til the web shows any real effect.
Best chance to lose your ship is most likely to be unlucky and get bumped off gate again before you can jump.
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Ms Scully
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.03.17 12:04:00 -
[47]
Sweet mother, finally a patch worthy of the name! Reads like my kind of eve
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Tradearea
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Posted - 2007.03.17 12:21:00 -
[48]
Quote:
An asteroid seeding issue in the G5KW region has been addressed.
What about the new drone regions around YM- , that have been petitioned multiple times ?
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Tradearea
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Posted - 2007.03.17 12:21:00 -
[49]
Quote:
An asteroid seeding issue in the G5KW region has been addressed.
What about the new drone regions around YM- , that have been petitioned multiple times ?
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2007.03.17 12:36:00 -
[50]
Any word on fixicating non-combat missions?
(You know, the kind of missions, screwed up ever since Dragon Code???)
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2007.03.17 12:36:00 -
[51]
Any word on fixicating non-combat missions?
(You know, the kind of missions, screwed up ever since Dragon Code???)
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Kerfira
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Posted - 2007.03.17 13:04:00 -
[52]
Quote:
Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.
This will make a lot of people very happy (this includes me)....
...and certain alliances will cry a lot....
Oh, the sweet tears 
It's REALLY funny seeing who likes this and who don't.
Anyway, after the gloating bit, back to critique:
1. The number of contracts is still too low, and the limitation of 1m minimum price on auctions doesn't seem to be touched. This is still killing the auction market for low-value items like BPC's that can't be sold otherwise.
2. Global contract search!!! Lovely!! Does this include being able to bid on auctions outside of the region they're located in???
3. Invention. There doesn't seem to be anything that fixes the ridiculous long copy time of cloaks, which is a very limiting factor for inventing on them.
4. Starbases. As other people have pointed out, that they're not at the warp-in point means you risk hitting them and decloaking, meaning you loose your cov-op. Not a nice change..... Move the warp-in point to the center of the grid too....
All in all though, a very good list of fixes
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Kerfira
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Posted - 2007.03.17 13:04:00 -
[53]
Quote:
Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.
This will make a lot of people very happy (this includes me)....
...and certain alliances will cry a lot....
Oh, the sweet tears
It's REALLY funny seeing who likes this and who don't.
Anyway, after the gloating bit, back to critique:
1. The number of contracts is still too low, and the limitation of 1m minimum price on auctions doesn't seem to be touched. This is still killing the auction market for low-value items like BPC's that can't be sold otherwise.
2. Global contract search!!! Lovely!! Does this include being able to bid on auctions outside of the region they're located in???
3. Invention. There doesn't seem to be anything that fixes the ridiculous long copy time of cloaks, which is a very limiting factor for inventing on them.
4. Starbases. As other people have pointed out, that they're not at the warp-in point means you risk hitting them and decloaking, meaning you loose your cov-op. Not a nice change..... Move the warp-in point to the center of the grid too....
All in all though, a very good list of fixes
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.17 13:19:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Kerfira
2. Global contract search!!! Lovely!! Does this include being able to bid on auctions outside of the region they're located in???
Nope.
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Milkminer
InterGalactic Corp.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.17 13:37:00 -
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- Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp.
Ok, so how I read this was if you log off inside a bubble while effected by it then you dont e-warp away.
So does this also effect ships who logoff before uncloaking at a gate. As from what I know and have read it wont.
My reasoning for this is:
If you logoff currently at a gate after you jump in to a bubble you can save your ship via logging off due to the effect of the bubble only works once you uncloak (different type of cloak when exiting a gate from standard). So does this mean that if you start warp a bubble can now disengage it like a scrambler or distruptor? or can this person still go to warp?
Basicly what im getting at is simple behind the waffle. Can you still logoff when cloaked on exit of a gate while in the radius of a bubble? (in light of what ive said above).
This can only be answered by a dev or someone whos tested it, dont read the patch notes and asume u know the answer please.
Originally by: John Moscroft
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Juwi Kotch
Gallente
VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
Galactic-Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.17 14:41:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Laurelle
Originally by: Juwi Kotch
Many good changes and improvements, but I'm missing one:
Contracts -> A "search over all regions" option was added to the contract search window.
You better read it again then
Found it:
Originally by: Patch Notes
In the Available Contracts tab you can change the view filter to global search, this allows you to search in all regions simultaneously.
Thank's for pointing that out! 
/me diggs out his old and dusty professional trader handbook...
Juwi Kotch
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Lurtz
Caldari
Gunrunners and Gamblers
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Posted - 2007.03.18 16:26:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Tirg
And the one that has my carebear heart offering *special services* to the Devs....
"The Hulk is now listed as a variant for T1 mining barges and can be invented as a result. "
Fellow carebear: can you thunk a dev upside the head and tell them to seed Strip Miner I and Ice Harvester I prinst so the t2s there will be inventable?
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Drykor
Minmatar
Stormriders
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.03.18 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Milkminer
Basicly what im getting at is simple behind the waffle. Can you still logoff when cloaked on exit of a gate while in the radius of a bubble? (in light of what ive said above).
I better hope not, or what would the whole point of the fix be exactly?
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