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enotsmirb
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Posted - 2016.09.11 03:56:43 -
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Well let me tell you what happened today with your launcher!
I logged in and my resolution was completely wrong and caused me monitor to go black due to out of sync refresh. I managed to reboot and after screwing with it 3 more times I got in with no sync issues. I am in the middle of clearing out a den in my faction ship and I suddenly lose control of my ship ( launchers wouldn't launch shield boosters wouldn't boost). I lost my ship. 1 bill gone because of your launcher.
Seems your launcher decided after I was already in the game to verify all of the game files using all 12.1Mbps of my internet bandwidth... The game launcher caused it's own program to lag out for christ sake!
Re-think this Your stand alone launcher is not ready. In my case the launcher didn't even check to make sure the client was not running before verifying files. Also why would any launcher/updater not have a qos (quality of service) to ensure it does not use 100% bandwidth? All I can say is good luck because "ain't nobody got time for that"! |
enotsmirb
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Posted - 2016.09.11 04:52:26 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:enotsmirb wrote:Well let me tell you what happened today with your launcher!
I logged in and my resolution was completely wrong and caused me monitor to go black due to out of sync refresh. I managed to reboot and after screwing with it 3 more times I got in with no sync issues. I am in the middle of clearing out a den in my faction ship and I suddenly lose control of my ship ( launchers wouldn't launch shield boosters wouldn't boost). I lost my ship. 1 bill gone because of your launcher.
Seems your launcher decided after I was already in the game to verify all of the game files using all 12.1Mbps of my internet bandwidth... The game launcher caused it's own program to lag out for christ sake!
Re-think this Your stand alone launcher is not ready. In my case the launcher didn't even check to make sure the client was not running before verifying files. Also why would any launcher/updater not have a qos (quality of service) to ensure it does not use 100% bandwidth? All I can say is good luck because "ain't nobody got time for that"! Because verifying files uses bandwidth......
I know right ! I was as shocked as you but sure enough it does. 12.1 Mbps I thought it was downloading an update but it wasn't just verifying. Ps I work for Rexnord corp as a Network admin 17 years. I'm not a software guy but I do know bandwith  |
enotsmirb
Ezekiel 25 17
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Posted - 2016.09.11 05:58:32 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:You might know bandwidth but I'm not sure your reasoning is sound.
Verifying files is a disk usage heavy process as it checks files using a scanning tool and using parity logic to determine whether or not you have 100% file integrity. The only part that would ever take any bandwidth would be the final check at the end to sync with the server and any missing files needed.
Unless this was a fresh install and you were literally forcing the game to download vital assets while you were playing.
And as a network admin, you don't set any kind of QOS or bandwidth caps to deal with such eventualities?
I know some ISPs provide what might as well be a brick in terms of a router (mine certainly does) and refuses to let you use your own so I can totally understand of those functions aren't available to you.
SIr or Madam, ? As far as your statement to using a scanning tool and parity logic... huh? You are over complicating it. The launcher got hung on the very first file it tried to verify ....why because it was in use by the game EXE. So it went into a loop thinking the file was bad or couldnt be deleted/replaced (my assumption) so yes it was trying to download.The launcher said it was verifying. It's real simple to check your bandwidth usage if you have a baseline it's called .... wait for it.... Windows Task manager! It's so advanced and has so, sooo much parity logic stuffs !!! In all fairness the log is huge and has 30-40k lines stating some variation of :
"C:/ProgramData/CCP/EVE/SharedCache//ResFiles/de/dec35e7da6b7aafe_2f17b3e9c4357fc4062f504bea11a017"
2016-09-10T17:27:09.295ZdefaultdebugCouldn't delete"
I think you just like to pick at the wound that was my destroyed soul, I mean FACTION FIT CRUSIER. But tanks for the debate/argument it inspired me to read a 4 megabyte txt file at 2am. sadly the software launcher is still not ready to stand on its own.
P.s I use a Cisco enterprise router 3 generations newer than any equipment comcast has. (because it was free) |
enotsmirb
Ezekiel 25 17
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Posted - 2016.09.11 06:22:56 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:I think that's more permission issues rather than what you might think it is.
I run a 8mbit down connection and leave my launcher open when playing and never experienced such a bandwidth hog like that.
But since you have a decent router, why not set up some QoS rules to prevent this from happening again?
if a file is in use its locked and inaccessible to outside programs in this case the launcher in about 99% of all cases... you are missing the point again... The G-damn launcher did not know the client was running = loss of ship
Why I no set up Qos on Cisco router for my wow/eve/porn computer? ...Because its Cisco IOS ! I like you, I really do but stop talking now.  |
enotsmirb
Ezekiel 25 17
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Posted - 2016.09.11 13:20:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:So you think that because it was trying to delete a file it couldn't....lead to it attempting to download the same file over and over?
Doesn't make sense bro
And get a better router!
You are more than welcome to diagnose my computer software related issues with your godlike Omnipresent, Omnipotent, and Omniscient abilities from the comfort of your own domicile. I am 100% sure you don't need log files and timestamps, error messages, and or even 1 more single clue related to this isolated incident. To conclude ...
No I never said it tried to download the same file over and over. What I wrote was "it went into a loop thinking the file was bad or couldn't be deleted/replaced" The assumption is that the launcher began to repair the client while it was running. Hence the excerpt I referred to(copy N paste) in the logfile.
The problem with your reply arguments is that your only affirmative assumptions you make is that my reasoning isn't sound or the issue is not what I think it is. Or I need a better router...
This thread is not intended to be an episode of mystery diagnosis. The only absolute fact here is **** be broke, **** need be fixed.... Please don't take my sunshine away ((x86)\CCP\EVE\bin\exefile)....
And my enterprise router retails for more than 80% of the cars on the road today and requires a CCNA CCNP skill set that in itself can cost more than most cars on the road today. Bro do you even Cisco? |
enotsmirb
Ezekiel 25 17
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Posted - 2016.09.11 17:14:22 -
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[quote=Tsukino Stareine]I don't thong th-thong thong thong no but I know a router with no QoS functionality is a bad router
Or maybe you just don't know how to configure it. Probably more likely if it cost that much.
It does have QoS functionality you bone head it's a Cisco ENTERPRISE ROUTER! For Bob's sake you just don't get that setting up Qos on a single client home network with enterprise equipment is like going squirrel (small rodent like mammal) hunting with a Lahti L-39 (anti-tank gun).
I don't know how to configure it? 17 years ass hat, 17 years....
This has been so much fun. +1 to get rid of the 100% fully functional stable tried and tested decade old launcher because Qos. (sarcasm) |
enotsmirb
Ezekiel 25 17
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Posted - 2016.09.11 17:37:25 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:There is an art to being passive aggressive and you sir have yet much to learn in its ways.
The 'get a better router!' I thought was clearly a joke, I do in fact work with Cisco routers on a daily basis and while not an expert can definitely tell you that most if not all have some kind of QoS functionality available to them. I only responded in such a way to one particular person because Mr CCNA stepped up to the plate. Of course I would not ask a regular person to crack into firmware of a router.
As to the rest of your post, I reiterate: CCP has no obligation to continue to support legacy and fringe systems. It does not make economic sense. They in fact have done more to make this game compatible than any other company I have ever had the misfortune to part my money with. Most companies just update their minimum requirements and tell you to shove it.
Keeping your equipment functioning and up to date is your OWN responsibility, can you seriously ask developers to somehow cover the situation where someone has not updated their video drivers in over a year in their coding? Of course not. The developers have an outstanding amount of resources available to them to cover as much as they possibly can, but it's not going to catch everyone. That's just cold harsh truth.
While I agree with you that having as many people able to log in to the game as possible is a good thing, you have failed to see the other side of this which is the fact that to even keep this game alive you need to be efficient with how you distribute your resources. Having tech support pick up tons of service tickets all about problems on decade old machines and unofficial ways of logging on is a waste of time and money in the long term.
Standardising platforms allows huge cost savings which can be then diverted into other MUCH more important areas of the game, like more content and improving the interface or CREST or any number of things that will make the game much better without being shackled to a 3rd party multi boxing program that CCP neither has control or influence on.
All in all I think people having problems with their launcher, most of it is PEBKAC with a few genuine instances where something may be up.
LOL You wouldn't even know how to log in to a cisco router back pedler.
"Mr CCNA stepped up to the plate". It was my plate (post) that you stepped up to if I remember right? I'm not a CCNA.
"Keeping your equipment functioning and up to date is your OWN responsibility." Except the issue is the software launcher not the equipment until you decided it was."
"Standardising platforms allows huge cost savings which can be then diverted into other MUCH more important areas blah blah blah." you sure like the tell everyone how important stuffs works.
"All in all I think people having problems with their launcher, most of it is PEBKAC with a few genuine instances where something may be up." oh so just a few instances are genuine... glad you could take the time to diagnose them.
Somebody take my keyboard from me....
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enotsmirb
Ezekiel 25 17
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Posted - 2016.09.13 04:02:00 -
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Could there be another reason CCP wants us to only use the new launcher? Somebody in another post suggested with the game going limited free to play there is going to be a lot of people needing to download the client. What better way for CCP to reduce or forgo additional network costs than to have player clients scale (bittorrent / P2P). Also why is there not an option to automatically close the client after the game starts... They took that out of the new launcher it was in the options menu a few (4) months ago.
Hash tag #JFK conspiracy, Hash tag# Chem trails, Hash tag # lizzard people, Hash tag# New World Order. |
enotsmirb
Ezekiel 25 17
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Posted - 2016.09.13 16:19:24 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Zappity wrote:Why doesn't hitting Enter enter my password in the launcher? It does for me - if the issue is reproducable submit a bug report please, with system details and if you have a special keyboard.
Oh boy.
This is sarcasm right? .... Right? |
enotsmirb
Ezekiel 25 17
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Posted - 2016.09.13 16:27:01 -
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DAMN IT!!
It did it again today. (launcher decided to download the update after I was already in the client). Bug report submitted no ship loss this time. Screen shot included. As you can see in the photo I am in the client while the update is taking place. You can also see that my internet connection is maxed out. It was stuck at verifying 99% until I closed the client and launcher then re-opened it.
From now on I just close the laucher after starting the game... Please add the feature to close the launcher after client starts.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f26/enotsmirb/Launcher%202_zpstebnbjdo.png
The launcher needs help... (or maybe just my launcher needs help.) |
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enotsmirb
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:23:16 -
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Skia Aumer wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:Neither the old Launcher nor the Repair Tool are supported anymore. Are you using the new Launcher? I don't. My desktop is running WinXP. Looks like game over for me, at least for a while.
Dll Error for me on the new launcher.... bye bye Eve |
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