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DioKahn
Praetorian Guard Security
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Posted - 2016.09.05 16:40:41 -
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The changes to Watch Lists have affected highsec wars and mercenary work. It's almost annoying just looking for a war target. Camping Jita is not my idea of fun. Locator agents say the same thing whether the target is offline or not. I understand protecting capital pilots in null sec has been the goal of the changes but it's making War boring. I suggest you keep Watch Lists disabled in NULL SEC and working perfectly again in HIGH SEC. Bring back real mercenaries and content to high sec please. |
Serene Repose
2895
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Posted - 2016.09.05 16:45:24 -
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I always get bored when there's no low-hanging fruit.
We must accommodate the idiocracy.
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Solecist Project
32974
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Posted - 2016.09.05 16:46:11 -
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No one forces you to camp in jita. No one.
What's your excuse?
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.09.05 17:11:38 -
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We have been having this discussion for months on end now. If you have something useful to add to the discussion please do so there.
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oiukhp Muvila
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.09.05 18:19:53 -
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DioKahn wrote:The changes to Watch Lists have affected highsec wars and mercenary work. It's almost annoying just looking for a war target. Camping Jita is not my idea of fun. Locator agents say the same thing whether the target is offline or not. I understand protecting capital pilots in null sec has been the goal of the changes but it's making War boring. I suggest you keep Watch Lists disabled in NULL SEC and working perfectly again in HIGH SEC. Bring back real mercenaries and content to high sec please.
Real Mercs wouldn't cry about the effort it takes to find their target.
One would think you want to be spoon-fed.
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Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
468
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Posted - 2016.09.05 21:53:26 -
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I took the removal of the watch list like a 'forced' retirement. Now I just sit around the station complaining about 'the good old days' and waving my cane at passing ships.
This would cure me of the fear...
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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1652
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Posted - 2016.09.05 22:29:00 -
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DioKahn wrote:The changes to Watch Lists have affected highsec wars and mercenary work. It's almost annoying just looking for a war target.
Oh no! You actually need to put in effort!! Oh the humanity!!!
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
511
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Posted - 2016.09.05 23:02:36 -
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@lunettelulu7
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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.09.05 23:35:36 -
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oiukhp Muvila wrote:DioKahn wrote:The changes to Watch Lists have affected highsec wars and mercenary work. It's almost annoying just looking for a war target. Camping Jita is not my idea of fun. Locator agents say the same thing whether the target is offline or not. I understand protecting capital pilots in null sec has been the goal of the changes but it's making War boring. I suggest you keep Watch Lists disabled in NULL SEC and working perfectly again in HIGH SEC. Bring back real mercenaries and content to high sec please. Real Mercs wouldn't cry about the effort it takes to find their target. One would think you want to be spoon-fed. The npc forum alt sure knows what he is talking about. Post with your main or don't talk about things you have no clue of.
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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oiukhp Muvila
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.09.06 08:42:45 -
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Solecist Project wrote:...Post with your main or don't talk about things you have no clue of.
TBH, the reason that I have posted with forum alts for the last 10 years is because it really annoys the regulars when they can't use the poster's KB, Corp History or anything like that when they can't come up with a valid counter point to what has been posted.
This forum should be about ideas and counter ideas not about pompous self-important personalities. |
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Keno Skir
836
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Posted - 2016.09.06 11:06:30 -
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oiukhp Muvila wrote:Solecist Project wrote:...Post with your main or don't talk about things you have no clue of. TBH, the reason that I have posted with forum alts for the last 10 years is because it really annoys the regulars when they can't use the poster's KB, Corp History or anything like that when they can't come up with a valid counter point to what has been posted. This forum should be about ideas and counter ideas not about pompous self-important personalities.
Not sure why you're so worried about people looking at your killboard or what corp you're in.. Unless you just want to hide from the general backlash of what you say here. I kinda figure if you're gonna be inflammatory you gotta use your main, or you're just hiding plain and simple..
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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.09.06 11:10:01 -
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oiukhp Muvila wrote:Solecist Project wrote:...Post with your main or don't talk about things you have no clue of. TBH, the reason that I have posted with forum alts for the last 10 years is because it really annoys the regulars when they can't use the poster's KB, Corp History or anything like that when they can't come up with a valid counter point to what has been posted. This forum should be about ideas and counter ideas not about pompous self-important personalities.
Fact of the matter is that an npc forum alt has no ground to speak on, because every jerk out there will use one and pretend to know what he's talking about. That's the issue regarding npc alts and nothing else. Using a forum alt denies any credibility.
Your personal issue - that you're a coward - has nothing to do with the rest.
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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TheVirus32
Trois Etoiles The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2016.09.06 11:42:57 -
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"mercs" still get plenty of kills sitting in trade hubs and bottlenecks. Hunting down defenseless prey in other systems (T3C fleet meets the mighty hulk! so much excitement, I wonder who's going to win!) is just harder, but then I don't think permadeccing half of new eden's population for easy kills was in CCP's mind when they implemented wardecs.
Think positively, PUSHx and the like now have more customers! Yay? |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
1208
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Posted - 2016.09.06 11:56:46 -
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*sigh* I actually support the openers suggestion, though for completely different reasons.
Remove insurance.
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Nalia White
Tencus
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Posted - 2016.09.06 19:12:59 -
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Solecist Project wrote:oiukhp Muvila wrote:Solecist Project wrote:...Post with your main or don't talk about things you have no clue of. TBH, the reason that I have posted with forum alts for the last 10 years is because it really annoys the regulars when they can't use the poster's KB, Corp History or anything like that when they can't come up with a valid counter point to what has been posted. This forum should be about ideas and counter ideas not about pompous self-important personalities. Fact of the matter is that an npc forum alt has no ground to speak on, because every jerk out there will use one and pretend to know what he's talking about. That's the issue regarding npc alts and nothing else. Using a forum alt denies any credibility. Your personal issue - that you're a coward - has nothing to do with the rest.
don't need to use insults. his statement has some merit to it, why should it bother you that he uses a forum alt? only because you are one of the loudest (and also rudest...) posters here doesn't let you make the rules buddy.
It's easy to ignore comments if you think the poster is not on your "level" btw :) |
March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
1885
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Posted - 2016.09.06 20:42:21 -
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In RL hunter works without anyone notify him 'your target woke up and is leaving it's den'. In Rl you NEED to know who are you hunting BEFORE you start.
Recent (not really 'recent' tho) changes made EVE 'hunters' feel what real hunters can feel.
I don't see much problems here.
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Valkin Mordirc
2470
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Posted - 2016.09.06 21:02:35 -
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March rabbit wrote:In RL hunter works without anyone notify him 'your target woke up and is leaving it's den'. In Rl you NEED to know who are you hunting BEFORE you start.
Recent (not really 'recent' tho) changes made EVE 'hunters' feel what real hunters can feel.
I don't see much problems here.
A real hunter can track his target. A prey leaves behind clues such as tracks, droppings and nesting areas in which a hunter can use to determine where his prey is moving to. Or a hunter can set up bait, using mating calls and scents to attract a target to him.
There is no mechanic in EVE that allows a person to do this. Watchlists combined with a Locater Agent, was the only way to do so.
You obviously have never actively tried to hunt a specific target before other wise you would understand this.
This topic becoming another AFK Cloaking, Ganking is OP, and stop wardecs, Jump Fatigue dead horse.
And like always.
Most people in the merc community understand why he watchlist was taken away. They just want locator agents to be buffed so the really Hunters can keep doing what they did before without a week's worth of prep time.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
17927
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Posted - 2016.09.06 21:43:02 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote:without a week's worth of prep time.
that goes out the window as soon as the war goes live
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
532
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Posted - 2016.09.06 21:47:28 -
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No to your idea, yes to locator agents giving the same message when you're offline that it gives when you're in a WH |
Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
611
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Posted - 2016.09.06 22:07:13 -
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DioKahn wrote:The changes to Watch Lists have affected highsec wars and mercenary work. It's almost annoying just looking for a war target. Camping Jita is not my idea of fun. Locator agents say the same thing whether the target is offline or not. I understand protecting capital pilots in null sec has been the goal of the changes but it's making War boring. I suggest you keep Watch Lists disabled in NULL SEC and working perfectly again in HIGH SEC. Bring back real mercenaries and content to high sec please.
What's your goal with wardecs?
To shoot ships? Best come to low/null - there's tons to shoot, and no watch lists needed because you can shoot anything you see.
To shoot structures? Find a structure, wardec the corp, and shoot the structure - since you don't care about shooting ships, you shouldn't care about watch listing the pilots.
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Solecist Project
33062
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Posted - 2016.09.06 22:57:56 -
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March rabbit wrote:In RL hunter works without anyone notify him 'your target woke up and is leaving it's den'. In Rl you NEED to know who are you hunting BEFORE you start.
Recent (not really 'recent' tho) changes made EVE 'hunters' feel what real hunters can feel.
I don't see much problems here. Dude. In real life it's easy. People can't log off!
Your analogy is invalid!
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
3559
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Posted - 2016.09.06 23:45:28 -
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Maybe consider changing 'why' you declare war. If you are looking to farm cheap kills, of course you are having problems. If you are declaring war for a strategic reason, to push a competitor out of a sector of space, to take their citadel down, etc, then there is no problem. If they log off for the week, victory, if they don't undock, victory.
I'm not against locator agents getting online/offline status notifications, but the main issue comes from the why behind the war, not anything else. |
Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony
732
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Posted - 2016.09.06 23:45:42 -
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Just here to point out it work bothways tho: targets don't logoff as soon as a WT comes online either. So there's that I suppose. |
Keno Skir
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Posted - 2016.09.07 00:08:18 -
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Brokk Witgenstein wrote:Just here to point out it work bothways tho: targets don't logoff as soon as a WT comes online either. So there's that I suppose.
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oiukhp Muvila
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
48
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Posted - 2016.09.07 10:06:38 -
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Keno Skir wrote:oiukhp Muvila wrote:Solecist Project wrote:...Post with your main or don't talk about things you have no clue of. TBH, the reason that I have posted with forum alts for the last 10 years is because it really annoys the regulars when they can't use the poster's KB, Corp History or anything like that when they can't come up with a valid counter point to what has been posted. This forum should be about ideas and counter ideas not about pompous self-important personalities. Not sure why you're so worried about people looking at your killboard or what corp you're in.. Unless you just want to hide from the general backlash of what you say here. I kinda figure if you're gonna be inflammatory you gotta use your main, or you're just hiding plain and simple..
Not worried about it all.
That people who think you need to use you mains to make your words mean anything is the reason I rub their face it in and refuse to post with my main char, and I'm not the only one by far.
I just find it funny when you start seeing all the nested replies from the same few posters starting to say each others' point of view is invalid due to something about their in game characters.
Kind of like when one starts losing an argument they start talking about someone's mother, or on these forums, how bad they and everyone they fly are at internets Pvp.
I actually find it kind of funny when someone demands that I post with my main. Shows how intellectually weak they truly are.
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oiukhp Muvila
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
48
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Posted - 2016.09.07 10:15:39 -
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Solecist Project wrote:oiukhp Muvila wrote:Solecist Project wrote:...Post with your main or don't talk about things you have no clue of. TBH, the reason that I have posted with forum alts for the last 10 years is because it really annoys the regulars when they can't use the poster's KB, Corp History or anything like that when they can't come up with a valid counter point to what has been posted. This forum should be about ideas and counter ideas not about pompous self-important personalities. ...snip... That's the issue regarding npc alts and nothing else. Using a forum alt denies any credibility..
Only to some of the forum regulars who rely on in-game information to try and win their arguments when all else fails. Most rely on what one says regardless of the name and in-game organizations they belong to.
It is kind of amusing to see some get so pissy when you dare to not post with your main though.
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oiukhp Muvila
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
48
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Posted - 2016.09.07 10:26:32 -
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Solecist Project wrote:March rabbit wrote:In RL hunter works without anyone notify him 'your target woke up and is leaving it's den'. In Rl you NEED to know who are you hunting BEFORE you start.
Recent (not really 'recent' tho) changes made EVE 'hunters' feel what real hunters can feel.
I don't see much problems here. Dude. In real life it's easy. People can't log off! Your analogy is invalid!
Actually its not.
RL hunters can go a long time sometimes several seasons to find game they are looking for. It takes a lot of practice and preparation during and outside the seasons.
Sometimes where you find game the week before the season started, your game can decide to completely move out of your area and essentially disappear the first day of the season.
Now granted no RL and in-game analogy will ever be 100% the same but knowing when someone logs into and leaves the game along with being able to track what systems they are in via locating agents was PvP on training wheels.
Now you need to actually undock and personally fly to different systems to see if any of your targets are around. Now information isn't spoon fed to you, you actually need to interact in game beyond sitting in station to find your targets. You know, actually play the game....
I realize those who where used to PvP on easy mode in Hi Sec are annoyed about this, but sometimes you actually need to work for your intel and not have it dropped all nice and neat in your lap.
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Solecist Project
33079
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Posted - 2016.09.07 11:13:09 -
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Please use the appropriate words. You mean "victim" and not "game" andi have no idea how "seasons" fit into this at all.
This is EVE. It's always hunting season!
In RL it is DAMN eas< to find someone and not lose sight of him. They can not log off. They can only go to sleep and then you just need to wait there for them to come out again. In a game it's not that simple, because they could be logged off for weeks or simply use an alt.
Try again, but please put more thought into it.
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
480
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Posted - 2016.09.07 12:06:57 -
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I am posting with my main...and...
This would cure me of the fear...
CCP Explorer liked you forum post. Now my life is complete...
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Solecist Project
33088
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Posted - 2016.09.07 12:15:34 -
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That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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