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BillLee Gallente FM Corp Insomnia.	Posted - 2007.03.17 13:07:00 - [1] No I didn't spell wrong. Why do certain people refer to Battleship as BB and not BS? The damn word doesn't even contain a second B!
defiler Caldari Mad Hermit	Posted - 2007.03.17 13:08:00 - [2] Always wondered about this myself. Maybe they think it's impolite to say BS to someone? :) *Mad Hermit - Minding our own business since 2004.*
Zaolen Ying Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.03.17 13:11:00 - [3] its from the navy designation for ship classes. BB = Battleship BC = Battlecruiser FF = Frigate DD = Destroyer AF = Assault Frigate and so on =) -Z
Ishquar Teh'Sainte Darwin With Attitude	Posted - 2007.03.17 13:11:00 - [4] BB is the notation for battleship-class hulls by the US navy ___________________ -Skellibjalla- Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit.
Burt Gummer	Posted - 2007.03.17 13:11:00 - [5] Edited by: Burt Gummer on 17/03/2007 13:08:36 That's because in reality, a naval Battleship is 'classed' as a BB, a Destroyer is a DD, a frigate a FF, and a carrier a CV, it's just the way it is done, don't ask me why. Edit: 2 people beat me to it...
Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.03.17 13:14:00 - [6] It's because... Oh...wait... What they said. ----- Don't add a pool to sell a house. Fix the windows. Fixed it. Happy? Quite . -HornFrog
Ask Unbeatable Gallente HighTech Marines Ltd. FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.17 13:16:00 - [7] That is a Templar, an Amarr class fighter drone used by carriers
Rei Toai Faaip De Oiad	Posted - 2007.03.17 13:17:00 - [8] a BB is a battleship, it's used by the US navy __________________________________ I don't want to talk about it I don't want to talk about it I don't want to talk about it I don't want to know.
defiler Caldari Mad Hermit	Posted - 2007.03.17 13:17:00 - [9] Yes, I'm aware of the navy designations. Question is, why does the navy call it BB? BB sounds cute and cuddly, hardly fitting... *Mad Hermit - Minding our own business since 2004.*
Fswd	Posted - 2007.03.17 13:27:00 - [10] How about BB gun? --- So I flame and troll when the occasion calls for it. So what are you gonna do about it?

Mastin Dragonfly Amarr Navy Runners	Posted - 2007.03.17 13:30:00 - [11] Originally by: defiler Yes, I'm aware of the navy designations. Question is, why does the navy call it BB? BB sounds cute and cuddly, hardly fitting... Battleboat, duh...
Mastin Dragonfly Amarr Navy Runners	Posted - 2007.03.17 13:43:00 - [12] Edited by: Mastin Dragonfly on 17/03/2007 13:39:38 Some googling lead me to this: Nomenclature History Warships in the United States Navy were first designated and numbered in system originating in 1895. Under this system, ships were designated as "Battleship X", "Cruiser X", "Destroyer X", "Torpedo Boat X" and so forth where X was the series hull number as authorized by the US Congress. These designations were usually abbreviated as "B-1", "C-1", "D-1", "TB-1," etc. This system became cumbersome by 1920, as many new ship types had been developed during World War I that needed new categories assigned, especially in the Auxiliary ship area. On 17 July 1920, the designation system was revised so that all ships were now designated with a two letter code and a hull number, with the first letter being the ship type and the second letter being the sub-type. For example, the destroyer tender USS Melville, first commissioned as "Destroyer Tender No. 2" in 1915, was now re-designated as "AD-2" with the "A" standing for Auxiliary, the "D" for Destroyer (Tender) and the "2" meaning the second ship in that series. Ship types that did not have a subclassification simply repeated the first letter. So, Battleships became "BB-X" and Destroyers became "DD-X" with X being the same number as previously assigned. Ships that changed classifications were given new hull numbers within their new designation series. The designation "USS" standing for "United States Ship" was adopted in 1907. Prior to that time, no designation was used in official documents. It should be noted that in the United States Navy, unlike European Navies, the first ship in a class to be authorized by the US Congress is the designated class leader (class name ship), regardless of the order in which the ships of that class are laid down, launched or commissioned. For example, contrary to many European texts, for the last class of "Standard" battleships, the battleship USS Colorado BB-45 (commissioned 30 August 1923) is the class leader under USN designation standards, not USS Maryland BB-46 (commissioned 21 July 1921). These battleships are thus properly designated as being "USS Colorado BB-45 Class" and not as "USS Maryland BB-46 Class."
Daravel Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.17 13:45:00 - [13] Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly Originally by: defiler Yes, I'm aware of the navy designations. Question is, why does the navy call it BB? BB sounds cute and cuddly, hardly fitting... Battleboat, duh... conjures up and image of 2 8 year old kids going... I'm in my battleboat. YaRR.. Invasions will be met with hostility and flying marshmallows!
DarkElf Caldari Veto.	Posted - 2007.03.17 13:54:00 - [14] tbh i've never once heard anyone refer to a battleships as a 'bb', only ever 'bs'. if someone said they were bringing a bb then i'd asume they were in a blackbird. DE
Verone Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.03.17 13:58:00 - [15] Originally by: DarkElf tbh i've never once heard anyone refer to a battleships as a 'bb', only ever 'bs'. if someone said they were bringing a bb then i'd asume they were in a blackbird. DE ^^ What WoWboy said... NEWEST MOVIE : VETO FOR HIRE
Encad Briht Minmatar United Univers	Posted - 2007.03.17 14:00:00 - [16] reminds me of Starfleet Commands System : FF - Frigate DD - Destroyer C - Cruiser CC - Command Cruiser BC - Heavy (Battle) Cruiser DN - Dreadnaught BB - Battleship --------------------------------------- Member of UU : Diplomatic Corps
DarkElf Caldari Veto.	Posted - 2007.03.17 14:02:00 - [17] Originally by: Verone Originally by: DarkElf tbh i've never once heard anyone refer to a battleships as a 'bb', only ever 'bs'. if someone said they were bringing a bb then i'd asume they were in a blackbird. DE ^^ What WoWboy said... son of a *****!!! DE
Spenz Gallente FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.17 14:05:00 - [18] Edited by: Spenz on 17/03/2007 14:01:40 I had to train myself not to use the navy designations. So for eve only, BS doesnt mean bullsh**, it means battleship, and BB doesnt mean battleship, it means blackbird. Of course I revert back to regular naval designations outside of eve. If I had an Alt I would probably post with it...
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.17 14:12:00 - [19] As everyones already said (but I'll say too, so I can be part of the crowd)- BB is a US navy designation, not used in EVE. In EVE, BB is generally understood to mean Blackbird, the EWAR cruiser. People who use BB in EVE are people who think they're being really really clever, but are actually just using the wrong term for the context --------
scrapbrain	Posted - 2007.03.17 14:16:00 - [20] Battleships are cool, a shame they are next to useless in modern warfare :(

papaPadla Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.03.17 15:05:00 - [21] Originally by: Zaolen Ying its from the navy designation for ship classes. BB = Battleship BC = Battlecruiser FF = Frigate DD = Destroyer AF = Assault Frigate And so on =) -Z OH FFS bb is a blackbird... battleships is BS DD is a Doomsday us navy uses this differently but were playin eve not sumthin else. To answer the original question: Bcouse they are lazy -------------------------------------
DanMck Amarr Rionnag Alba	Posted - 2007.03.17 16:02:00 - [22] Originally by: DarkElf tbh i've never once heard anyone refer to a battleships as a 'bb', only ever 'bs'. if someone said they were bringing a bb then i'd asume they were in a blackbird. DE same here
Tarminic	Posted - 2007.03.17 16:45:00 - [23] Originally by: scrapbrain Battleships are cool, a shame they are next to useless in modern warfare :( Oh you just wait, the Navy will be putting Railguns with a range of 500 nautical miles on battleships in under ten years. Then they will become quite useful again. It's true, I swear.
William Hamilton	Posted - 2007.03.17 16:58:00 - [24] ^Such railguns woudl be mounted on cruisers and destroyers. BB class is still impractical.
Phoenix Lord The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project	Posted - 2007.03.17 16:58:00 - [25] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: scrapbrain Battleships are cool, a shame they are next to useless in modern warfare :( Oh you just wait, the Navy will be putting Railguns with a range of 500 nautical miles on battleships in under ten years. Then they will become quite useful again. mmm yes ive heard of that. I even saw it on an ad for the navy, a battleship with a railgun. Arrow Capital Ship Sales
Korizan	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:00:00 - [26] Well as far as english speaking goes. BS - Has another meaning that has nothing to do with Navy vessels But a freighter yes Or B = The name for a male cow. S = The short for a acronym or the actual label "Ship High in Transit" Which was put on containers carrying manure for fertilizer. (The menthane it gives off could be explosive so best to keep it out of the water and high enough in the vessel for the Methane to vent.) So If I was in the Navy I would DEFINITELY not want the short for a battleship to be BS
elbenito Battlestars Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:07:00 - [27] BB = Battle Badger. 'nuf said.
Bosie Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:15:00 - [28] BB = AC/DC song. "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND." .
GreatNova Amarr The Knights Of Camelot DeStInY.	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:27:00 - [29] i use BB when talken about battleships not black bird i just say bird for black bird
Jurushy SteelVipers YouWhat	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:53:00 - [30] POD = Egg NF = Noobfrig FF = T1 Frig INT = Interceptor AF = Assoult Frig DD = Destroyer DICTOR = Interdictor CL = Cruser T1 CA or HAC = Heavy Assoult Cruser RECON = Recon Cruser LOGISTIC = Logistic Cruser BC = Battlecrucer CBC or CC = Commandship BB or BS = Battleship DN = Dreadnought CV = Carrier MS = Mothership ***** = Titan Hauler = T1 Industrials Transe = Transportship ------ REVENGE IS A DISH BEST SERVED COLD Old Klingon prover

Sereifex Daku	Posted - 2007.03.17 18:02:00 - [31] Originally by: defiler Yes, I'm aware of the navy designations. Question is, why does the navy call it BB? BB sounds cute and cuddly, hardly fitting... The yanks have never been good at spelling. America is like the big brother who always had a big problem with the word "colour" :P
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.17 18:22:00 - [32] Originally by: Patch86 People who use BB in EVE are people who think they're being really really clever, but are actually just using the wrong term for the context Or they've played harpoon and/or SFB for close to a decade and can't get out of the habit. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Ristavel The Prancing Unicorn Club Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.17 18:40:00 - [33] BS = BattleShip BB/bb (doesnt matter) BlackBird ----------------------------------------------- Corn Beef
Zaphroid Eulthran Minmatar Imperial Visions	Posted - 2007.03.17 19:13:00 - [34] Originally by: Sereifex Daku Originally by: defiler Yes, I'm aware of the navy designations. Question is, why does the navy call it BB? BB sounds cute and cuddly, hardly fitting... The yanks have never been good at spelling. America is like the younger cousin who always had a big problem with the word "colour" :P Fixed for accuracy and I always make a point of correcting people who try to use american terminolgy in EvE, there are no dollars, BB is a blackbird, DD is a doomsday, FF is when you miss the S off, and as for the letter "u" Grr will they ever learn? Warning, sig starts here, Imperial Visions, Now 566804 seconds since our last fatality
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.17 19:26:00 - [35] Edited by: Hllaxiu on 17/03/2007 19:25:15 Originally by: Zaphroid Eulthran Originally by: Sereifex Daku Originally by: defiler Yes, I'm aware of the navy designations. Question is, why does the navy call it BB? BB sounds cute and cuddly, hardly fitting... The yanks have never been good at spelling. America is like the younger cousin who always had a big problem with the word "colour" :P Fixed for accuracy and I always make a point of correcting people who try to use american terminolgy in EvE, there are no dollars, BB is a blackbird, DD is a doomsday, FF is when you miss the S off, and as for the letter "u" Grr will they ever learn? Your country, assuming it has a navy and is a member of NATO, uses a similar classification system. (or it may use exactly the same one, if you're in Canada or Australia or several other countries) --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Zephirz Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.17 19:37:00 - [36] BB = BattleBoat zephirz
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.03.17 20:01:00 - [37] Edited by: Plutoinum on 17/03/2007 19:58:10 Originally by: Ristavel BS = BattleShip BB/bb (doesnt matter) BlackBird what he said ___________ Muuuhhh !!!
Zirth Caldari The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.03.17 20:02:00 - [38] Originally by: Ask Unbeatable That is a Templar, an Amarr class fighter drone used by carriers QTF!
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.03.17 20:15:00 - [39] I would have guessed it was BB due to Battleship lacking a second letter for the designation, to keep it consistent, much like the first episode in the first season of something is S01E01, not S1E1. However in Eve, it is BS, as a BB is a Blackbird. We really needn't worry about any other supposed meaning of 'BS', as anyone who cannot bring themselves to say bull****, but will say BS, are so goddamn lame that no-one cares what they say, and they are mistaken if they think it carries the same weight anyway. - If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.17 20:18:00 - [40] Originally by: Hllaxiu Your country, assuming it has a navy and is a member of NATO, uses a similar classification system. (or it may use exactly the same one, if you're in Canada or Australia or several other countries) Nope, its just the US Navy, unless I'm much mistaken. US Navy use the "Hull Classification Symbol" system (BB, DD, and all that jazz) while Britain, Commonwealth (and ex-Commonwealth) and most of the European Nato members use the "Pennant Number" system. Wikipedia will explain the differences. But no, the vast majority of the world does not use the US Navy system. More importantly, nor does EVE. SO STOP SAYING IT YOU IRRITATING GITS! --------

Xtro 2 Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2007.03.17 20:22:00 - [41] could ask why a new bunch of people to the game also call chars "toons", its equally as annoying. Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman. Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder.
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.17 20:27:00 - [42] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Hllaxiu Your country, assuming it has a navy and is a member of NATO, uses a similar classification system. (or it may use exactly the same one, if you're in Canada or Australia or several other countries) Nope, its just the US Navy, unless I'm much mistaken. US Navy use the "Hull Classification Symbol" system (BB, DD, and all that jazz) while Britain, Commonwealth (and ex-Commonwealth) and most of the European Nato members use the "Pennant Number" system. Wikipedia will explain the differences. But no, the vast majority of the world does not use the US Navy system. More importantly, nor does EVE. SO STOP SAYING IT YOU IRRITATING GITS! The penant system is fairly similar. Australia and a few other countries do use the US system. Every other SCIFI game I've played has used variants of the system, but thats probably because all their devs played SFB and/or watch star trek. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.03.17 20:33:00 - [43] Originally by: Xtro 2 could ask why a new bunch of people to the game also call chars "toons", its equally as annoying. It's far far more annoying, and it's because they are stupid (and probably ugly too) and that's 'nuff said. - If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine.
Chappu Caldari Quam Singulari Industry	Posted - 2007.03.17 20:37:00 - [44] That is a Templar, an Amarr class fighter drone used by carriers
pastafarianist	Posted - 2007.03.17 20:50:00 - [45] Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly Originally by: defiler Yes, I'm aware of the navy designations. Question is, why does the navy call it BB? BB sounds cute and cuddly, hardly fitting... Battleboat, duh... i lol'd
Sheriff Badden Amarr Legion Federation Amen Anera	Posted - 2007.03.17 21:53:00 - [46] Battle Barge, like the "Litany Of Fury" from the warhammer 40k universe! fitting for amarr, isn't it ?


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