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Toobo
Project Fruit House Solyaris Chtonium
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Posted - 2016.09.11 14:59:03 -
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Problem is not the ship, but people going AFK or not paying enough attention to the game. This happens not only with mineta but null ratters and missions runners and all that. I always say this, but people who do 'play at keyboard' do high end PVE with bling stuff and have pretty good income and less loss in much more dangerous spaces, like those that PVE in WH or do null escalations and such. My exhumers use minimal tank when I do mine sometimes, because I don't do afk. I've been ganked in a mining ship only once in past seven years, and that was because I went afk in high sec, and I've done lots of mining in low/null/wh. So yes, going afk in highsec is actually more dangerous than mining in WH if you pay attention.
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Toobo
Project Fruit House Solyaris Chtonium
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Posted - 2016.09.11 21:49:57 -
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Lol that was ridiculous. I too have family and had in game losses because I had to urgently leave the PC to look after something/someone. And yes if you are unlucky you could lose your ship in those moments But like others said, if that happens don't complain about the game.
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Toobo
Project Fruit House Solyaris Chtonium
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Posted - 2016.09.12 01:52:45 -
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Piugattuk wrote: 'asteroid is defeated'
Love it. CCP should change to this.
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Toobo
Project Fruit House Solyaris Chtonium
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Posted - 2016.09.12 08:08:02 -
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Lucas, I did not say passive/AFK isk is bad, all I'm saying is that it comes with the risk. You can AFK mine now too, and it's not 'wrong' in any sense, but it is 'rightly so' that there is risk of being ganked by not paying attention.
Out of other things you listed, PI is the only one that's pretty risk free, so that could be looked into. But PI requires moving stuff to hubs to sell, and it's usually during the transportation that risk is present, even more so considering that more profitable PI harvesting is done in less secure space. You could point at PI factories in high sec, but that requires a lot more micromanagement than PI harvesting.
Regarding things like moon mining and trading being passive ISK, both come with great risk. If you set up huge order and go afk for few months you cannoy react to sudden market changes and can suffer heavy loss. For moon mining, taking control of and protecting profitable moons are no easy task - at least in a sense that it will usually require team effort.
As I said, you can afk mine or rat or whatever all you want, the game allows for it. But my point was that afk mining AND wishig for less risk doesn't fly as an argument.
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Toobo
Project Fruit House Solyaris Chtonium
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Posted - 2016.09.12 09:57:13 -
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Lucas, I think we're onto different things here. I was making my comments based on "oiukhp Muvila"'s comments, the following bits,
oiukhp Muvila wrote: Toobo wrote: Problem is not the ship, but people going AFK or not paying enough attention to the game......
I think this attitude is what makes much of this community such ass-hats at times.
Some people actually have lives and this notion that if you are logged in and in space you cannot leave the KB and should be somehow punished if you dare to is simply astounding.
Get a life: I'm not going to dock ever time I need to take a crap. I'm not going to dock ever time I need to talk to my kids in a different room. I'm not going to dock ever time I want a snack. I'm not going to dock ever time I need to let the dog out I'm not going to dock ever time for what ever just so others can feel at ease that every character is in game and ready to be interacted with.
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It seemed to me like a big whining about being exposed to danger when going AFK. :p
And of course most of the risk come from player interventions - that is the 'mechanic' I'm talking about. I don't see how non-player intervention mechanic to AFK activities are even a concern or a topic.
If I read the thread wrong - my bad.
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Toobo
Project Fruit House Solyaris Chtonium
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Posted - 2016.09.12 10:16:52 -
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Lol fair enough Lucas I get you now. Come to think about it some miners indeed have been asking for more interactive mining. Making it more 'tedious' is probably not what miners want, but something more engaging. But usually everything becomes tedious after a while when it becomes a routine :p
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Toobo
Project Fruit House Solyaris Chtonium
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Posted - 2016.09.12 10:18:20 -
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Oiukhp, ok I understand you now and that I can agree with. The 'dangers' should come from player interactions, not some forced periodical clickfest.
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