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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Noticed.
2049
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Posted - 2016.11.16 18:28:16 -
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Matar Ronin wrote: It seems you seek to argue that history is replete with Caldari State leadership making all the right choices because their system is perfect and as such can only produce perfect results. The monkey wrench of reality is that tibus heth rose to power via that Caldari System. There was no general election of all Caldari citizens that brought him to power. Thuggish power plays in the streets moved comfortably into Caldari boardrooms and tibus heth used the fundamental weakness of the Corp system to enact a violent hostile take over that cost countless lives and could have plunged the entire New Eden Cluster into open warfare.
I am not arguing anything Mr. Ronin, I am showing you what Caldari is.
The Caldari system of corporate governance makes all the right choices because it is a perfect system that produces perfect results for the Caldari people.
It can be explained, but it never has to be justified -- especially not to some black faced dirty trash of a Minmatar like yourself playing Gallentean liberal stooge.
Now I have already provided an explanation of corporate governance in the State and the nature of political enfranchisement as it exists through the investment of voting stock. As such you can either a) Take it or b) Leave it but your opinions will not change it. |
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
2149
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Posted - 2016.11.16 18:34:47 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote: especially not to some black faced dirty trash of a Minmatar like yourself playing Gallentean liberal stooge. Was that really called for?
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Merchant Rova
Pathway to the Next
83
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Posted - 2016.11.16 18:37:15 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Aria Jenneth wrote: Soooo ... Intaki separatism, anyone?
Do they wish to get their independence? Do they have the means to survive on their own with little to no help? Why not? They should be given that option, they should also fight for it if that's their wish. Not saying I believe they can take on the Federation alone so let's hope cooler heads prevail. Give them their vote. They they can see that they need the Federation. |
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
2595
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Posted - 2016.11.16 18:49:00 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote: especially not to some black faced dirty trash of a Minmatar like yourself playing Gallentean liberal stooge. Was that really called for? She's in a(nother) "genuine" phase where she's trying out being an overt ethno-nationalist. I'm hoping she grows out of it sooner rather than later. |
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
2595
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Posted - 2016.11.16 18:50:58 -
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Merchant Rova wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Aria Jenneth wrote:Soooo ... Intaki separatism, anyone? Do they wish to get their independence? Do they have the means to survive on their own with little to no help? Why not? They should be given that option, they should also fight for it if that's their wish. Not saying I believe they can take on the Federation alone so let's hope cooler heads prevail. Give them their vote. They they can see that they need the Federation. Isn't there already the Intaki Syndicate? They're kind of in bed with the Angel Cartel and some other ruthless people, but it's not like they don't have their own whole region of space..
Is that the natural alternative, here? |
Merchant Rova
Pathway to the Next
83
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Posted - 2016.11.16 18:59:16 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote: especially not to some black faced dirty trash of a Minmatar like yourself playing Gallentean liberal stooge. Was that really called for? She's in a(nother) "genuine" phase where she's trying out being an overt ethno-nationalist. I'm hoping she grows out of it sooner rather than later. Don't get me wrong, I want peace with the State but I honestly think it's impossible because of Caldari nationalists like her and Diana Kim. |
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1557
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Posted - 2016.11.16 19:02:00 -
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Oh come now.... Veil isn't as bad as Kim. |
Elanion
57
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Posted - 2016.11.16 19:02:39 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Is that the natural alternative, here? That depends on how willing the Intaki in question is to write off their homeworld. Syndicate is sovereignty in exchange for virtue.
RIP YC111-115 GÇó "The project discarded, its subjects forgotten... thence must the burden be shouldered."
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2935
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Posted - 2016.11.16 19:04:23 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Oh come now.... Veil isn't as bad as Kim. How dare you, primitive tribal, comparing me with this deranged gurista and even claiming I am worse?!
Have you lost your mind, subhuman?!
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1557
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Posted - 2016.11.16 19:07:04 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Oh come now.... Veil isn't as bad as Kim. How dare you, primitive tribal, comparing me with this deranged gurista and even claiming I am worse?! Have you lost your mind, subhuman?! See? Veik would have ignored that comment and not wasted her time responding.... |
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Merchant Rova
Pathway to the Next
84
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Posted - 2016.11.16 19:11:45 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Oh come now.... Veil isn't as bad as Kim. How dare you, primitive tribal, comparing me with this deranged gurista and even claiming I am worse?! Have you lost your mind, subhuman?! Speak of the Devil.. |
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
2596
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Posted - 2016.11.16 19:22:19 -
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Merchant Rova wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Oh come now.... Veil isn't as bad as Kim. How dare you, primitive tribal, comparing me with this deranged gurista and even claiming I am worse?! Have you lost your mind, subhuman?! Speak of the Devil.. Eh ...
Ms. Kim's Ms. Kim.
Veik's ... Veik.
It's the difference between a gut shot and waking up to find you've lost both kidneys to an organlegger, if that makes any sense. |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Noticed.
2049
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Posted - 2016.11.16 20:11:38 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote: especially not to some black faced dirty trash of a Minmatar like yourself playing Gallentean liberal stooge. Was that really called for?
Yes.
If the man argues that Amarr opinions are irrelevant because of the racial non-sequitor of being slavery cultists then he should not complain if I point out his opinions on Caldari are irrelevant because he does in fact have a black face. |
Matar Ronin
2799
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Posted - 2016.11.16 21:38:49 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:Matar Ronin wrote: It seems you seek to argue that history is replete with Caldari State leadership making all the right choices because their system is perfect and as such can only produce perfect results. The monkey wrench of reality is that tibus heth rose to power via that Caldari System. There was no general election of all Caldari citizens that brought him to power. Thuggish power plays in the streets moved comfortably into Caldari boardrooms and tibus heth used the fundamental weakness of the Corp system to enact a violent hostile take over that cost countless lives and could have plunged the entire New Eden Cluster into open warfare.
I am not arguing anything Mr. Ronin, I am showing you what Caldari is. The Caldari system of corporate governance makes all the right choices because it is a perfect system that produces perfect results for the Caldari people. It can be explained, but it never has to be justified -- especially not to some black faced dirty trash of a Minmatar like yourself playing Gallentean liberal stooge. Now I have already provided an explanation of corporate governance in the State and the nature of political enfranchisement as it exists through the investment of voting stock. As such you can either a) Take it or b) Leave it but your opinions will not change it. I do so enjoy when a total collapse occurs on the opposing side of an issue I have strong feelings on. Nothing says victory quite as clear as a racist frothing at the mouth with anger because some "lesser darker" person dared challenge their assumptions with a set of verifiable facts.
You are very entertaining please do ramble on without understanding either the question posed or the system you are failing at defending.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
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Matar Ronin
2799
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Posted - 2016.11.16 21:50:18 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:Matar Ronin wrote: It seems you seek to argue that history is replete with Caldari State leadership making all the right choices because their system is perfect and as such can only produce perfect results. The monkey wrench of reality is that tibus heth rose to power via that Caldari System. There was no general election of all Caldari citizens that brought him to power. Thuggish power plays in the streets moved comfortably into Caldari boardrooms and tibus heth used the fundamental weakness of the Corp system to enact a violent hostile take over that cost countless lives and could have plunged the entire New Eden Cluster into open warfare.
I am not arguing anything Mr. Ronin, I am showing you what Caldari is. The Caldari system of corporate governance makes all the right choices because it is a perfect system that produces perfect results for the Caldari people. It can be explained, but it never has to be justified -- especially not to some black faced dirty trash of a Minmatar like yourself playing Gallentean liberal stooge. Now I have already provided an explanation of corporate governance in the State and the nature of political enfranchisement as it exists through the investment of voting stock. As such you can either a) Take it or b) Leave it but your opinions will not change it.
Quote:If the man argues that Amarr opinions are irrelevant because of the racial non-sequitor of being slavery cultists then he should not complain if I point out his opinions on Caldari are irrelevant because he does in fact have a black face
((Post where in EVE canon Caldari have a racist attitude towards black faces or I shall report your inappropriate personal racist hostility as the violation of the EVE EULA that it certainly is.))
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
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Matar Ronin
2799
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Posted - 2016.11.16 23:00:20 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:... *sigh*
So, Mr. Ronin? I know you don't normally listen to me when I say such things, but Veiki Gesakaarin is maybe another one of those people you don't want to successfully annoy.
She might be looking for a hobby. Just saying.
(Also, her comments about the competence of a population to rule itself are actually widespread sentiment in the State, and I'm not sure there's a compelling counter-argument. Why would anyone expect a bunch of laborers and technicians to be suited to deciding, or even choosing leaders to decide, questions of macroeconomics and foreign policy? It's amazing to me that the Federation's worked as well as it has for as long as it has.) Pilot Gesakaarin has just proven she can't punch above her weight so if she is indeed looking for a hobby she would be well advised to try something she could actually do without getting battered so easily. She is essentially a lightweight with delusions of rhetorical effectiveness that could not survive engagement with even one initial concept.
I rate kim higher then pilot Gesakaarin and it is well known how little i think of that cowardly tin soldier. But have faith I have no interest in continuing to slap around the intellectually incompetent who are clearly unable to bring anything of substance to the table beyond juvenile racist name calling. It's just too easy and boring.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
2149
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Posted - 2016.11.16 23:09:03 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:Aria Jenneth wrote:... *sigh*
So, Mr. Ronin? I know you don't normally listen to me when I say such things, but Veiki Gesakaarin is maybe another one of those people you don't want to successfully annoy.
She might be looking for a hobby. Just saying.
(Also, her comments about the competence of a population to rule itself are actually widespread sentiment in the State, and I'm not sure there's a compelling counter-argument. Why would anyone expect a bunch of laborers and technicians to be suited to deciding, or even choosing leaders to decide, questions of macroeconomics and foreign policy? It's amazing to me that the Federation's worked as well as it has for as long as it has.) Pilot Gesakaarin has just proven she can't punch above her weight so if she is indeed looking for a hobby she would be well advised to try something she could actually do without getting battered so easily. She is essentially a lightweight with delusions of rhetorical effectiveness that could not survive engagement with even one initial concept. I rate kim higher then pilot Gesakaarin and it is well known how little i think of that cowardly tin soldier. But have faith I have no interest in continuing to slap around the intellectually incompetent who are clearly unable to bring anything of substance to the table beyond juvenile racist name calling. It's just too easy and boring. Aaaaaaaand, now there's a target on your back. Slot some sensor boosters mate. You'll need them if you want to keep track of the enemies you're making.
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
6731
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Posted - 2016.11.16 23:17:50 -
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Yes, well, I shall approach this slightly differently than my erstwhile colleague.
Tibus Heth was a populist, who had already made his career as a populist, and suddenly gained the support and wealth of some very wealthy benefactor who was also a player in the Caldari corporate system. I assume I don't need to tell you what a perfect storm that represents?
To add to the statistical unlikelihood of the scenario, Heth also came along (with his unearned wealth and backer) at a time when the State was ideally positioned to respond to his message. A period of stagnation had led to corporate indulgence and nepotism and this created something that was believed to be impossible - a sense of grievance that was universal throughout all of the competing Mega Corporations (with the exception of Ishukone).
Left to itself, the system would have balanced out. The Executives were weakening their own positions, leaving themselves without a leg to stand on. Whether it was Otro Gariushi or some other, someone would have come, out competed the complacent parties and made clear which approach was superior.
But someone was watching and they made sure Tibus Heth filled that niche.
Now, in his five years Tibus Heth achieved many things and not even most of them were bad things, from the perspective of the Caldari Patriot. Nepotism was scoured away. Complacency and Stagnation banished. Heth led a successful crusade back to the Home world and whilst he never made good on that victory, it was still a very glad homecoming for us.
I would say that, aside for his persecution of Ishukone, it was only really in his last year that he became problematic.
And when he did, it wasn't the Corporate executives who dealt with him. It wasn't the Navy. It was the people who broke his back and drove him from power. I know, because I was one of them. The will of the people was made manifest - and it's this that proves the lie to your assertion that it's ruled solely by the Corporate hierarchy.
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Matar Ronin
2801
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Posted - 2016.11.17 00:30:10 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:The will of the people was made manifest - and it's this that proves the lie to your assertion that it's ruled solely by the Corporate hierarchy.
My lie indeed? tibus heth from his speech as he announced prosecuting a coup against the Caldari Constructions Corp
Quote: "that man did not have to die! It was the greed of mega-corporations that killed him; the greed of sinister men that was killing Caldari Constructions. How could our leadership allow this to happen? What was it that subverted them, that turned them toward this path? Think of it ... all those gifted, talented individuals, the so-called elite, whom we charged with guiding us?"
"Whom we charged with guiding us"' tibus heth identified the problem in his rise to power, if it is a lie when i imply it, then surely it was a lie when he flat out stated it to an audience of an estimated trillion Caldari citizens. If I recall correctly you believe him a patriot until his final year, and these were his words on day one!
Pilot Tuulinen you may not always agree with me but you will discover I do not often lie. I find it counter productive in almost all cases.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
2596
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Posted - 2016.11.17 00:43:34 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:The will of the people was made manifest - and it's this that proves the lie to your assertion that it's ruled solely by the Corporate hierarchy. My lie indeed? Ah-- Mr. Ronin? "The lie" used in this context (like "gives the lie to the assertion that," etc.), isn't quite the same as calling the speaker a liar. (You'd think it would, but it doesn't.)
It's a turn of phrase making claim of inaccuracy without the kind of "sting" typical where the word is used. It's less like saying, "You're a liar," and more like saying, "And therefore, this isn't true."
As to the actual content of the argument, I think I'll just stay over here and let you all hash that out.... |
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Noticed.
2049
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Posted - 2016.11.17 01:35:28 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:Aria Jenneth wrote:... *sigh*
So, Mr. Ronin? I know you don't normally listen to me when I say such things, but Veiki Gesakaarin is maybe another one of those people you don't want to successfully annoy.
She might be looking for a hobby. Just saying.
(Also, her comments about the competence of a population to rule itself are actually widespread sentiment in the State, and I'm not sure there's a compelling counter-argument. Why would anyone expect a bunch of laborers and technicians to be suited to deciding, or even choosing leaders to decide, questions of macroeconomics and foreign policy? It's amazing to me that the Federation's worked as well as it has for as long as it has.) Pilot Gesakaarin has just proven she can't punch above her weight so if she is indeed looking for a hobby she would be well advised to try something she could actually do without getting battered so easily. She is essentially a lightweight with delusions of rhetorical effectiveness that could not survive engagement with even one initial concept. I rate kim higher then pilot Gesakaarin and it is well known how little i think of that cowardly tin soldier. But have faith I have no interest in continuing to slap around the intellectually incompetent who are clearly unable to bring anything of substance to the table beyond juvenile racist name calling. It's just too easy and boring.
Speaking of dearest Kin you read like you both graduated from the same alma mater of presenting laughable bravado as victory while continuing to post about how much you do not care your precious delicate skin was pierced by my touch.
After all in trying to convince people you do not care you in fact display you do. |
Matar Ronin
2816
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Posted - 2016.11.17 17:55:41 -
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In many ways the ascension of the criminal tibus heth illustrates well the deep dysfunction at the heart of the Caldari system of corp governance. tibus himself rallied the populous desires of the Caldari people by showing he understood the symptoms this dysfunction and pledged to excise it from the Caldari Constructions Corp.
As is often the case dealing with the symptoms may do little to cure the root cause, if you have a broken limb an ice pack will reduce the swelling and temporarily ease the pain but will not heal the break. tibus heth's racist blame of the failure of Caldari Corp governance on Gallente influence was an ice pack, it did not help heal the root cause.
I would really like to discuss what the root causes of dysfunction are in the Caldari State with anyone who has observations that can be instructive because for me this is a learning exercise to try and determine the best practices for governance. Blind patriotic announcements of my system is the best because we are the best wont cut it. I am seeking the truth from those with the intellectual courage to help me find it. No system implemented by humans is perfect but they all can be improved if we look at them with honesty, join me in doing so.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Noticed.
2055
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Posted - 2016.11.17 18:37:01 -
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In my experience the people who say they want to understand the Caldari only want to use such discussions to pass judgement on the State based on their own worldviews.
If it's not the Gallente and Minmatar trying to talk about how tragic it is all Caldari are "Oppressed" by the "Tyranny" of evil corporations then it's the Amarr talking about how Caldari are wayward and lost who all collectively need to abandon their culture and history to become like the Khanid in Imperial subservience.
After going through the same old rigamarole of outsiders trying to judge the State by their own ideals as they in turn patronise and insult in their ignorance then eventually the only response will be, at least for me: Go read a book and **** off. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
6736
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Posted - 2016.11.17 20:54:17 -
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The problem, as I see it, is that you seem to be viewing the culture of the State through the lenses of your own perspective. Things that you've identified as dysfunctions seem, to me, to either be intended features or acceptable consequences. Some ideals that you hold are things that are either unimportant or even undesirable to us.
Unless you can understand our cultural history, you'll have problems understanding the choices we make.
Nonetheless, I can attempt to explain.
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
869
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Posted - 2016.11.17 21:29:03 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:The problem, as I see it, is that you seem to be viewing the culture of the State through the lenses of your own perspective. Things that you've identified as dysfunctions seem, to me, to either be intended features or acceptable consequences. Some ideals that you hold are things that are either unimportant or even undesirable to us.
Unless you can understand our cultural history, you'll have problems understanding the choices we make.
Nonetheless, I can attempt to explain. Personal opinion here, but you would just be wasting breath. It seem like he doesn't even understand Minmatar culture. Attempting to explain yours would be a challenge at best.
I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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Kolodi Ramal
Sanxing
248
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Posted - 2016.11.18 04:51:30 -
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I don't love how State loyalists are always happy to speak for all Caldari including the disadvantaged in their society who have no voices (and can't even leave the State because, you know, they're too poor). |
Pieter Tuulinen
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
6737
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Posted - 2016.11.18 05:29:01 -
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Kolodi Ramal wrote:I don't love how State loyalists are always happy to speak for all Caldari including the disadvantaged in their society who have no voices (and can't even leave the State because, you know, they're too poor). If they have no voices, the Tuulinen Foundation is happy to speak for them. Are we cruel to demand that they stand, when you would ask only that they kneel?
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Kolodi Ramal
Sanxing
248
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Posted - 2016.11.18 05:30:01 -
[448] - Quote
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Kolodi Ramal wrote:I don't love how State loyalists are always happy to speak for all Caldari including the disadvantaged in their society who have no voices (and can't even leave the State because, you know, they're too poor). If they have no voices, the Tuulinen Foundation is happy to speak for them. Are we cruel to demand that they stand, when you would ask only that they kneel? Yeah it's pretty cruel to demand that somebody stand when they have no legs, metaphorically. |
Matar Ronin
2816
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Posted - 2016.11.18 06:10:18 -
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Tyrel Toov wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:The problem, as I see it, is that you seem to be viewing the culture of the State through the lenses of your own perspective. Things that you've identified as dysfunctions seem, to me, to either be intended features or acceptable consequences. Some ideals that you hold are things that are either unimportant or even undesirable to us.
Unless you can understand our cultural history, you'll have problems understanding the choices we make.
Nonetheless, I can attempt to explain. Personal opinion here, but you would just be wasting breath. It seem like he doesn't even understand Minmatar culture. Attempting to explain yours would be a challenge at best. Sigh .... I try to over look those whose ego I have bruised to the point they feel motivated to attack everything I say to earn points but such is life for many because even rhetorical combat here on IGS has it's casualties, so sometimes I have to respond to the walking wounded. Perhaps it will help heal them also.
Understanding Minmatar Culture is what motivates my inquiries. Because what indeed is Minmatar culture today? Is it how the Minmatar live who live in the Caldari State? Is it how the Minmatar live in the Federation? Is it how the Minmatar live in bondage in the clutches of the slavery cultists? Is it how the planet bound Minmatar live in the Republic? Is it how the Minmatar live in the nomadic fleets?
To truly understand Minmatar culture as it exists today one has to study and learn all these systems because more than any other of the people of the New Eden Cluster we Minmatar are dispersed in large numbers everywhere.
What might be nosy snooping by others is actually self interest on my part because of how it effects the Minmatar who live in that particular region or system.
Because we Minmatar are the first culture to truly span and integrate with all the other major cultures of the New Eden Cluster I think our own definition of what culture is has to be a live growing changing dynamic organism that is being shaped by influences from everyone else. In a certain light it can be something to be feared, will we lose ourselves? However because of the resilience we have demonstrated after many centuries of bondage I feel confident our cultural evolution will result in something that remains identifiable as us. Hopefully through some honest and extensive research we will take the best of where we live and leave behind the dysfunctional portions to help shape our own futures. If some find that concept objectionable I feel sorry for them, growth, change, knowledge, and understanding trumps stupidity, bruised egos, xenophobia, and stagnation.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2937
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Posted - 2016.11.18 06:51:03 -
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I see that infamous cowards and tribal liars still dare to open their filthy mouths to yap about our greatest Hero Tibus Heth. Well, as pathetic he is, I once again would like to point out that readers shouldn't believe words of this specimen, who was daring to call our Tibus Heth as a "criminal". Unfortunately, Tibus Heth has died as a Hero before presenting himself to the tribunal to prove his innocence in all these slanders and false accusations.
Pity that enemies of the State aren't smart to realize it (and how justice system works at all).
But on other hand, this tribal could be simply special, and his ignorance about our Tibus Heth wasn't the only case of his... special... mental abililties. I'd like to remind readers, that he, in this same discussion, pointed at me, like I wouldn't fight him. And after I said I would and would gladly meet him in space, he keps barking like I wouldn't fight him, like he was a broken record.
He even dared to say he'd hunt me down. Surprisingly, I never saw him in space since. Taking all this into account, I once again recommend to simply discard his words as empty vibrations of the air.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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