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Jack Target
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Posted - 2007.03.19 14:42:00 -
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We will be having atmospheres on planets (see videos below) but will we be able to walk on them in the future? If so, does anyone know how long this will take to develop?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCQgSBne0jg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0epmfs1GYs&NR
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Alski
Gallente
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.19 14:49:00 -
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the atmospheric flight demo is at least a year old now i think, it seems that its taken a back seat to walking in stations.
my bet:
walking in stations - late 2007 / early 2008
atmospheric flight (IF they still want to do it) - early / mid 2008
conquerable planets, RTS style surface battles.... 2012? 
it would be really nice to hear from the devs if this is even something on a very far off ideas drawingboard, or if they've decided on anouther direction completeley.
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William Hamilton
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Posted - 2007.03.19 14:51:00 -
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The first link isn't EvE, it's Infinity.
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Fayn Trak
Gallente
Myridian Trading Systems
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Posted - 2007.03.19 14:53:00 -
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It's far older than a year, it's either canned or shelved or something in between.
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Teinyhr
Minmatar
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.19 14:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Alski
conquerable planets, RTS style surface battles.... 2012?
More like when Duke Nukem Forever comes out of development hell. Which IIRC somewhere around, in May of 3017.
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Jansson
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Posted - 2007.03.19 15:12:00 -
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The eve vid is from 2004's fanfest, IIRC.
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Joebarchuck
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Posted - 2007.03.19 15:15:00 -
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Yes, can we have a GM speak about atmospheric flights and fights.
If they do not want to give details, at least tell us if we can expect it within 24 month or not at all...
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Jack Target
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Posted - 2007.03.19 16:34:00 -
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I too think CCP should tell us more of the long-term plans, beyond space station ambulation.
If they did this, I would increase my subscription renewal date from 3-months to 1-year.
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Jansson
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Posted - 2007.03.19 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Target
I too think CCP should tell us more of the long-term plans, beyond space station ambulation.
If they did this, I would increase my subscription renewal date from 3-months to 1-year.
Have a look at the Drawingboard. It should give you a heads-up on which direction they are going. I doubt anyone from CCP can get any more specific about the future.
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Juwi Kotch
Gallente
VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
Galactic-Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.19 21:54:00 -
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My guess: Walking on Planets will take place two to three years after walking on stations is introduced.
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Ahz
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Posted - 2007.03.19 21:57:00 -
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Planet-side RTS combat in a 2012? It takes 5 years to make a game now?
I think whatever they do planet-side should look like WoW and play like Eve.
They could even sell it as a separate expansion.
2 years tops if they put their minds to it.
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Snake Doctor
Guardians of Hell's Gate
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.03.19 22:17:00 -
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I saw that second video and was really impressed. It would be kind of cool, but I don't see much use for it at the moment. The EVE universe is just too large with just too few people to inhabit the worlds very well. If millions of people played eve, it would ROCK to have different capturable planets....
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Phoenix Lord
The Arrow Project
The ARR0W Project
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Posted - 2007.03.19 22:38:00 -
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EON had an article on it, but it didnt have dates either afaik.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.03.19 23:39:00 -
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W0w0w0w0w that's awesome.
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Lictose
Gallente
Zion.
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Posted - 2007.03.20 02:09:00 -
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Originally by: Snake Doctor
I saw that second video and was really impressed. It would be kind of cool, but I don't see much use for it at the moment. The EVE universe is just too large with just too few people to inhabit the worlds very well. If millions of people played eve, it would ROCK to have different capturable planets....
I have to say even with mid 30,000 people playing the game EVE is too SMALL...
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Nacho Star
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Posted - 2007.03.20 06:08:00 -
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Edited by: Nacho Star on 20/03/2007 06:05:50
Originally by: Ahz
Planet-side RTS combat in a 2012? It takes 5 years to make a game now?
That's kind of correct now...yea. Production slows down on MMOs after they're released and new stuff rarely gets introduced without having to purchase an expansion pack.
You see...investors treat games like a product life-cycle. This would be the reason why some games die out over time. Investors have ponied up money for development and now want to "milk" their profits as much as they can without sinking too much more into the game. Thus the game declines.
This game hasn't declined at all and I hope won't because I just started playing it. Hopefully, if EVE continues with regular updates, then consumers (players) will continue to see value and the game will expand and not shrink like games such as SWG has done.
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Nacho Star
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Posted - 2007.03.20 06:12:00 -
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Actually, I was going to say that it hasn't declined at all...instead it has expanded.
But...buggy forums say "this thread does not exist," when I try to edit so I guess I was never here...
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Falacious Micutoe
Minmatar
Forsaken to the Core
Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Lictose
Originally by: Snake Doctor
I saw that second video and was really impressed. It would be kind of cool, but I don't see much use for it at the moment. The EVE universe is just too large with just too few people to inhabit the worlds very well. If millions of people played eve, it would ROCK to have different capturable planets....
I have to say even with mid 30,000 people playing the game EVE is too SMALL...
30000 people play eve, half of which are carebears, a quarter hog 0.0 space under the names BoB and IAC (curse them!) and the last quarter either pop miners in low sec or hide in jita, its just lack of people that makes it seem so small, i realise there's no such thing as a fair fight, that's whats so fun about 0.0 gate camping, but it would be better if there was more resistance, more fun for the alliances that get bored of doin camps cos BoB puts an end to anything interesting, (curse them again >.<)
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Teinyhr
Originally by: Alski
conquerable planets, RTS style surface battles.... 2012?
More like when Duke Nukem Forever comes out of development hell. Which IIRC somewhere around, in May of 3017.
Actually, StarCraft: Ghost, Duke Nukem Forever, and planet surface interaction / warfare are all slated to be released December 22, 2012.
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Daedalus DuGalle
Gallente
University of Caille
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:44:00 -
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Does 3 months count as a necro?
Originally by: Janu Hull
Nothing says gritty cynicism like a 1 ISK note wedged between a pair of silicone enhanced knockers.
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Janjan Jansen
Amarr
1st Praetorian Guard
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:47:00 -
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Walking on planets... hmmm. Let me thing why would i want to do that... I fly spaceships with great protection system or sit in the safety off a battlestation. Why would i want to walk on a planet which some idiot can masacre with a DDD(DoomsDay Device). Or some idiot could crash on top off me. Nah.. i'll stay in space. Because im sure some Minmatar Terrorist would do something to me. Because im a soldier for the Empire, the Emporer and God.
Greetings Janjan Jansen
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Daedalus DuGalle
Does 3 months count as a necro?
Enh, it's still a vaguely pertinent topic, and it's not like it's a necrobump from 2k3. I give it a pass.
It also gets bonus points for not being about BoB, Goons, or CCP corruption.
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Renosha Argaron
Caldari
The Celestial Free Miner's
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:56:00 -
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Edited by: Renosha Argaron on 12/06/2007 11:55:43
Id love to see a mixture of atmospheres on planets and houseing...i saw on the Drawingboard page they have an idea of....
Individual Player Structures (aka "Housing")
Allowing individual players to buy, anchor and maintain their own housing module would enrich the EVE universe and serve as an easy bottom rung on the Starbase-ownership ladder. This could of course open up a whole can of worms, so weÆre proceeding with caution here.
this would be a great idea for settling on a planet surface and setting up your own home and landing pad......im kinda sick of station docking,.....would be nice to find a planet and settle there...lol...maybe each planet could have its own server....lol...just an idea CCP;)
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Renosha
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.12 12:57:00 -
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I'm more interested in WHEN WILL WE BE ABLE TO WALK ON PODS?
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.06.12 12:59:00 -
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You're already walking on a planet...
Wrangler
Assistant Community Manager
EVE Online
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.12 13:04:00 -
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I only wish, oh how i wish, that i could one day test out those planetary vehicles. Bet they go fast.
Can i have one on a station?
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ry ry
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.06.12 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You're already walking on a planet...
reading the forums, i sometimes have my doubts.
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Helmuth Halbstein
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Posted - 2007.06.12 13:34:00 -
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what about targetting a walking target from sitting in your hanger in a crow as he gets out his ship, letting off a volley of light precisions and LMAO'ing as he runs to save his plants.
Haha
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Veritas Falx
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.12 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You're already walking on a planet...
Haha, Wrangler must have something like 90% dodge. Oh wait that is WoW, not EVE. This is not WoW this is EVE. If you want to go walk around in something go play WoW or LORTO or Vanguard. Don't make EVE into WoW.
Fix drones first.
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.06.12 13:54:00 -
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You know, in my own little world of what I'd personally like to see in EVE there is room for planetary flight and planetary bases, and in that fantasy of mine you should be able to walk around these bases, just as you will be able to walk in stations. But that's just me. 
As for what the future plans we actually have are, no clue, this feels so far in the future we might not have any plans...
Wrangler
Assistant Community Manager
EVE Online
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Cheunger
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.06.12 14:15:00 -
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Walking on planets is a waste of dev time. Fix your stuff before you move on to pointless ideas like planetary action and heat.
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.12 14:54:00 -
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WALKING ON DUCKS!?!??!?!?!
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Rabbitual Ferrier
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Posted - 2007.06.12 15:16:00 -
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There was talk about this in an interview last year, that the long term aim would feature homesteads on planets etc but that this would be a long time off. Walking in Stations is a by product of the WoD game, so it makes sense to roll it out (and dare I say utilise the eve player base for testing), infact it was the last thing mentioned on the 10 year plan (so I'd be old  but not too old )
I think the idea is to expand the game over time, gradually adding more and more content as areas become more saturated (ie the room of expansion of the spaceship factor is slowly reducing, so adding new content to other aspects of the game makes sense)
Though I'd love to fly down to Planet BoB and see an old Titan up on bricks, and grandpapa SirMolle whittling on its doorstep!!!  |
Sir Howard
Lynx Frontier Inc.
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.12 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ahz
Planet-side RTS combat in a 2012? It takes 5 years to make a game now?
I think whatever they do planet-side should look like WoW and play like Eve.
They could even sell it as a separate expansion.
2 years tops if they put their minds to it.
/slaps forehead
Yes cause I'd love to go from a realiztic looking sci-fi space sim to jumping out of my ship only to find myself in a fantasy cartoony fps.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.12 15:28:00 -
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Once they have the Ambulation engine all sorted for walking in stations, I don't suppose it's a huge leap to apply it to planet surfaces.
My one fear, though, is that they're going to let regular ships do planetary flight. They've all been designed to look un-aerodynamic, like spaceships, for a start- can you honestly imagine a Raven swooping and loop-di-looping in the skies above Caldari Prime? And for another, the fluff tells us that Tritanium (the substance that makes up the vast majority of the ship's volume) reacts explosively within atmospheric conditions.
If they do implement planetary fligh, I'd hope they'd introduce a whole new range of "atmospheric craft", that are slow and sluggish and useless in space compared to the space ships, but are capable of going to planets.
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Vitrael
Stormriders
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.06.12 15:35:00 -
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Who cares if we have walking on planets? Who cares if we walking on stations? Who cares?
Put more stuff in space first.
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Janu Hull
Caldari
Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.12 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86
Once they have the Ambulation engine all sorted for walking in stations, I don't suppose it's a huge leap to apply it to planet surfaces.
My one fear, though, is that they're going to let regular ships do planetary flight. They've all been designed to look un-aerodynamic, like spaceships, for a start- can you honestly imagine a Raven swooping and loop-di-looping in the skies above Caldari Prime? And for another, the fluff tells us that Tritanium (the substance that makes up the vast majority of the ship's volume) reacts explosively within atmospheric conditions.
If they do implement planetary fligh, I'd hope they'd introduce a whole new range of "atmospheric craft", that are slow and sluggish and useless in space compared to the space ships, but are capable of going to planets.
The Tritanium thing can be bypassed. Aluminum and Magnesium are extremely explosive when exposed to Oxygen, but your soda can (aluminum) and mountain bike (magnesium body) don't go boom on you because those metals are alloyed.
Just because raw tritanium is used to build starships, doesn't mean there's raw tritanium exposed anywhere. Remember, ships do have interior atmospheres.
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D Jed
AtomiCorp
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Posted - 2007.06.12 15:57:00 -
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Why would you want to walk on planets? There are plenty of other professions in the universe, and you decided to be a pod pilot.
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Grunanca
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Posted - 2007.06.12 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: D Jed
Why would you want to walk on planets? There are plenty of other professions in the universe, and you decided to be a pod pilot.
Because there is a potential for a playerbase at above 1 million players in it. If ground play was introduced, EVE would be 2 MMOs based in one. Some people might never go into space and some might never touch the ground, but in the end it would make EVE larger, and think about it... Hauling hundreds of players between battles on planets, it would be great. Or setting up a blockade to keep players from leaving planets.
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Onchas Erivvia
Black Eclipse Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.12 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Howard
Yes cause I'd love to go from a realiztic looking sci-fi space sim to jumping out of my ship only to find myself in a fantasy cartoony fps.
Space sim? What game are you talking about? It sure ain't Eve. I'm not just referring to the point'n'click interface, but the complete lack of realistic ship movement (whens the last time you yawed or translated your ship) and static celestial mechanics. If you want a space simulator, check this out - Orbiter.
Ambulation is simply a product of the MMORPG CCP is developing. Same engine. It just lets them try it out in an existing property and maybe it encourages cross-overs; minimal development time for a potentially significant boost in revenue.
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D Jed
AtomiCorp
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Posted - 2007.06.12 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Grunanca
Originally by: D Jed
Why would you want to walk on planets? There are plenty of other professions in the universe, and you decided to be a pod pilot.
Because there is a potential for a playerbase at above 1 million players in it. If ground play was introduced, EVE would be 2 MMOs based in one. Some people might never go into space and some might never touch the ground, but in the end it would make EVE larger, and think about it... Hauling hundreds of players between battles on planets, it would be great. Or setting up a blockade to keep players from leaving planets.
Could eve handle such a large player base? Imagine Jita with 50k people in it at any one time.
Anyway, it makes sense from an RP point of view that our characters would never want to be stuck on the ground as being in space is something they've decided they want to do. And the lives of the people on the ground are cheap too. They can't use medical clones like us pod pilots can. (May be changed with walking in stations however, as I don't think CCP wants us to be rolling around stations in our pods)
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Iratus Caelestis
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.12 17:01:00 -
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I imagine never.
The same reason I have no faith that we will ever be able to walk around stations.
They demo'd atmospheric flight to me at the fanfest 32 months ago. Still no sign, why should we have any faith that we'll ever get it, or the ambulation stuff, or the graphics updates, or working drones. It all just falls by the wayside and bumped to the next update .
Luckily eve is fun enough with its current features that it offsets CCP's inability to deliver any of the features they promise.
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Lux Simian
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Posted - 2007.06.13 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: D Jed
Why would you want to walk on planets? There are plenty of other professions in the universe, and you decided to be a pod pilot.
Access to Planets could be via station shuttle services (actually flying to planets could be very tricky) - kind of like how you dock, rather than navigate in (ie you get to utilse a short FMV rather than going for atmospheric flight).
I like the immersion and the Role Playing Game element of the MMORPG. Now don't get me wrong I like the Space bit as well, but the more elements there are to play with, the more long term life you add to a game. Thats why I prefer Oblivion, to Doom 3.
Plus you could seperate 'in planets and on station' onto consistant shards - because essentially they are sealed off universes. So even the PVP Hardcore are better off, because they have an accurate view of how many people are in system (and less people, means less Lag).
And it is a 'sandbox' game the more elements you add to a game, you get a disproportionate increase in the attractive whole becomes. Over time you need however to add new dimensions, otherwise you end up in dead ends for development (like ships just getting bigger and badder than the last lot, a pointless arms race) - with only a few people actually getting in on the new toys.
Where as this is content for everyone (those motherships, probably never get to fly one, because by the time I do, there will be super motherships if content just focuses in on the game as it exists now). |
Karash Amerius
Amarr
O.E.C
Legionnaire Services Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.06.13 17:17:00 -
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I dont see how there would be any gameplay value in walking on planets within Eve. I mean to do it right, it requires its own game tbh. This is a game about space ships...dont forget that.
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Jose Quevo
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.06.13 17:22:00 -
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I will be completely satisfied with the graphical update + station-walking. :)
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emepror
Gallente
Flying Spaghetti Monsterz
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.13 17:29:00 -
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IF THEY DO GIVE US THE MASSIVE CREW TRANSPORTS YOU SEE IN HOMEWORLD 2!!!!!!!!!!
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