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Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2007.03.21 15:01:00 -
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The true enemy of the matari people are those who believe in a 'republic'. Those who take action in order to dismantle this fable and open minds to reunion with the mandate are acting in the interests of the people.
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Wren
Minmatar
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.21 15:02:00 -
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Good point Kade. There has to be some video files of this. I'll pay for any video or holographic footage of the incident. In fact, I will make this very high on my current agenda to know absolutely what happened.
I hate being played.
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Mr Vapor
Minmatar
Stormriders
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.03.21 15:16:00 -
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It's really quite simple what I'm trying to do here.
If the Bloody Hands want something to kill, then HIRD can provide that. I don't judge them but I do judge their actions. Those "policemen" were Matari, the innocent people in the crowd were Matari. What would you tell the family of those that lost their lives that day? Sorry but you significant other worked for a corrupt government and deserved to die? Of course you wouldn't.
As of now, the Bloody Hands actions are a disgrace to their people. They make us look like the savages the Amarr claim us to be. Our infamous "Ray of Matar" makes it even worse by just standing idly by and letting our Republic fall into ruin. You want patriotism then I'm here to shove it down your throat. I believe in our PEOPLE. I don't believe in killing them. Firebombing a peaceful protest though....I guess that is the act of a true Matari.
Might I point out, once more for those not taking notes, that a full third of our kin still reside in chains under the auspices of the Amarr? Do you, any of you, think that these actions are going to help them under their yoke? I want to see a new leader at the head of the Republic more than anyone. I want to see action taken for those who can not take it for themselves. THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN WITH ACTS OF WANTON VIOLENCE AND DEATH UPON OUR OWN PEOPLE.
Listen to Kashaul Murik. He is a true voice of the Matari people. POWER TO THE TRIBES! Never, in all my days, have I heard a truer call. Stand behind your leadership. Voice your calls. Stand for what you believe but for Cizin's sake, do not kill your own blood in such a cheap and pathetic way.
I fear for the Republic and its people. I'm scared of what may happen should we stand idly by but I cannot and will not condone the shedding of Matari blood.
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Tar Kovsky
Minmatar
Khumatari Holdings
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.21 15:20:00 -
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 Originally by: Mr Vapor
I don't judge them but I do judge their actions. Those "policemen" were Matari, the innocent people in the crowd were Matari. What would you tell the family of those that lost their lives that day? Sorry but you significant other worked for a corrupt government and deserved to die? Of course you wouldn't.
...and in any event, your quarrel is with those pulling the policemen's strings.
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2007.03.21 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tar Kovsky
and in any event, your quarrel is with those pulling the policemen's strings.
Yes!
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Evanda Char
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.03.21 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Blood of Matar
How dare you..
You stand here and accuse of us murdering our own. What we all did we did in self defense, and you stand here and accuse us of murdering our own.
Fists are self-defence. Your Hei-tar blades are self-defence. Guns, if you have them to hand when faced with a threat, are self-defence.
Firebombs aren't. They're pre-meditated weapons of chaos and random death.
When I take aim at a ship, I know there's a good chance that I will be coming home with several hundred, maybe a thousand, of our people, safe and sound. And I always talk to the pilots first. I ask them to jettison. I order them to jettison. I scramble and nos them, and I ask them again. I tell them again. Then I fire, and even when I'm firing they have to option to eject.
I take every precaution I can to secure the lives of our people while still denying the slavers the chance to get away with it.
When you throw a firebomb into a crowd, you're not even sure who you're hitting.
It's one thing to be angry. It's another to be at once destructive and unconstructive.
How does what is happening on our home planets make us anything other than weaker? We need to find a solution, not snarl and beat our chests because there's a problem.
-Eva-
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Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.21 16:13:00 -
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Visian Muar'Tarkan, I kill people family members every day because they work for a corrupt government. I do not enjoy doing it or threaten others who do it for the same goal as me.
You simply seek to control the Bloody Hands using a carrot and a stick - to focus their rage towards where you think it should be directed. They have repelled your attempt at seduction and you have resorted to calling them provacateurs. You, and others, belittle their actions, calling them young and inexperienced in the ways of the world - even start saying we need to worry about how the Amarr perceive us as savages.
They claim self defence. You accuse them of bringing violence to a peaceful demonstration. The reports say that the police provoked the demonstration. I was not there, I have never even been to the planet or taken part in any plnet-side demonstrations. You choose to go with the offical version. I choose not to believe the state. Simple.
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Eris Davion
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Posted - 2007.03.22 08:03:00 -
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Originally by: Blood of Matar
How dare you..
You stand here and accuse of us murdering our own. What we all did we did in self defense, and you stand here and accuse us of murdering our own.
If any have actually accused you of murder, it was me. And I am not with the UK, nor Fimbulwinter. I believe those others, who once you looked up to, have at most accused you of brashness and negligence while admiring your intentions. With your words here, you prove their accusation correct.
If you would take offence with anyone, take it with me. Do not spurn the offers of those who share your beliefs simply because they reveal to you unpleasant truths in the process.
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Tablaren
Kingdom of Kador
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Posted - 2007.03.22 08:52:00 -
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Hmph, animals
Finally someone in the republic sees the folly it is to oppose the empire and the beasts below that office rise up and kill each other over it.
I must applaud the actions of everyone involved though. The leader who understood the importance of cooperation and the leaders minions who slaughter each other.
I had not expected someone elected by the matari masses to be so intelligent. Of course the rest of you do a wonderful job and destroying your fragile republic's unity :)
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Karn Mithralia
Minmatar
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.22 11:54:00 -
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Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 22/03/2007 11:58:38
Originally by: Blood of Matar
How dare you..
You stand here and accuse of us murdering our own. What we all did we did in self defense, and you stand here and accuse us of murdering our own.
Just so its clear where I stand ... for whatever reason.
I offered support to Vapours initiative because I thought he was offering you arms to further your cause.
I was not there that day to witness events, but I do not trust the media nor those who manipulate it one bit. What I do trust is my heart and the outcome of action. Push on Bloody Hands, feel the fire within, destroy those who support slavery, no matter what blood is spilt.
Peace is a blind used to enslave and oppress. o>
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Thomas Maleficus
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:31:00 -
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The Bloody Hands of Matar,
You seek a responsible and responsive government. You want a government that responds to the people. Gather the Matari people, organise and protest. The government dismisses the Anti-Midular as a minority. The Midular Government does not hear the people because the people have not spoken loud enough.
I am an outsider, a Caldari, but I consider all Matari to be my brothers, brothers who I would die for. I don't want to see you killing your own people. If you wish to bring down the Government so it can be replaced by one that is accountable and honourable than organise without violence. I call on all the Matari to join The Bloody Hands of Matar in peaceful protest. Lay down the tools of your trade, stop the work you are doing, stop supporting Midular's government. No transit, no production, no work, nothing! Show the government you mean business. Let no more Matari die for the sake of Midular!
When this is over, and Midular no longer holds a failed position of leadership, then the real fighting can begin for the Bloody Hands of Matar. Then you can go out, join the pod pilots of the Republic and spill the blood of the Amarr. Until then, take the leadership role on the planet side that I know you are capable of. Good luck Bloody Hands.
Since I am sure that this communication will be closely monitored by the Republic law enforcement, government officials and the military, I address you now.
There are times to follow the orders of those who lead the republic. Now is not that time. The military and police have a responsibility to reflect on the events that have transpired. Think about what has happened and continues to happen. Yes you take orders from the Government, but the government is supposed to serve the mandate of the people. You must support the people, without them, the republic is nothing. They are your friends, your family, your people. Not one more drop of Matari blood need be shed. You have the duty to serve the people, do not stand against them. Bring about a peaceful end to Midulars regime. The planet side police and military, lay down your weapons, refuse to support Midular and help bring unity to the voice of the Matari People. Republic Fleet, turn your guns to the real enemy of the Matari, take aim at the Amarr. No government deserves unquestioned loyalty and obedience, think for yourselves.
To my friends, Ushra'Khan, Fimbulwinter, and the rest of you brave freedom fighters, remain strong, keep fighting and don't give up hope. You've seen dark times descend on the republic and even upon yourselves. But your warrior spirits and resolve will break through and the light of freedom will shine upon the oppressed and enslaved. Be strong warriors and support each other. Let none divide you.
With undying support,
Lt. Thomas Maleficus
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Derran
Minmatar
Khumatari Holdings
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.22 15:33:00 -
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I was about to say something but anything I say would just make me sound like a hypocrit.
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Herritar
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.03.23 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Vapor
we will hunt you down and eradicate you ourselves. There is no room in Matari civilization to kill our own.
Apply that to the republic leader aka Karin Midular.
Enough with the hipocresy.
This is not a war about RACE, it is a war about freedom.
There were, there are and there will be "matari" traitors and individuals working against the freedom of our kin, (Ammatars for example).
Being a matari is not about were you were born, it is about how you act, if your acts are against matari freedom you are an enemy. Those who kill and hunt freedom fighters are enemies.
Bloody hands of matar is a valid organization in those dark times and when the true war will start i am sure in wich side of the barricade they will be.
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