| Pages: 1 2 :: [one page] |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |

Mr Vapor
Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter
|
Posted - 2007.03.19 15:51:00 -
[1]
Edited by: Mr Vapor on 19/03/2007 15:51:19 Fimbulwinter (hereby referred to as HIRD) has been silent on the front of the entire Midular scandal. We are not well liked in the respected halls of the Republic, at least not on a public,vocal level. We have our supporters but as I'm sure most can agree with, it's really not smart politics to come out and support a terrorist organization like ours.
Regardless, one incident has peaked my curiosity. That being the upstart, non-pod pilot organization going by the name of "The Bloody Hands of Matar." It seems that the Matari Pod Pilot organizations that inspired them also want to distance themselves from the group. The unsavory incident that resulted in a riot and the death of Matari citizens left a bad taste in their mouth and they want nothing to do with it. While regrettable, such an event was bound to happen. Not taking responsibility for it, however, is a crime in itself.
So, I've come to offer something to the Bloody Hands of Matar. Namely, sponsorship.
HIRD will support and fund you. We will supply you with weapons and training. We will give you transport and focus. We will mold you into a fighting force of unimaginable ferocity. We will educate you in the ways of war. All of this is yours, under one condition....
Not one more single drop of Matari blood will be on your hands. If an event like the riot on Dober Harn repeats itself then we will hunt you down and eradicate you ourselves. There is no room in Matari civilization to kill our own.
What we will do is direct you towards the true enemy. The ones that sow the discord brought about in the Republic. The Demon Amarr Empire. We will put you in a position to destroy those who keep our blood kin in enslavement. We will sate your thirst to kill with a true enemy and we will never leave you behind.
You may ask yourselves as you consider this offer, why would anyone support us, especially a pod pilot organization? Because HIRD feels that its responsibility is the Matari people. Not the Republic and certainly not our impotent leader Midular. The people that make up the Republic are the important aspect and killing our own just makes us weaker.
So, if you want to strike at the heart of true evil, Marek Brandeira, then contact us and we will make it happen.
|

Gaius Kador
PIE Inc.
|
Posted - 2007.03.19 15:54:00 -
[2]
Dog! ----------------------------------------------
|

Mr Vapor
Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter
|
Posted - 2007.03.19 16:10:00 -
[3]
And here stands one of the Demon Amarr with the audacity to call me a dog! You see, Marek, this is who you should be fighting! These scum who hold our people!
What sense does it make to kill your own people when you have a target rich environment full of religious sycophants who would like nothing more than to see your head on a pike because you don't come from their diseased bloodline?
Please, all Amarr, lend more truth to my proposal.
|

SmokeMeAKipper
System-Lords E N I G M A
|
Posted - 2007.03.19 16:24:00 -
[4]
Originally by: Mr Vapor Not one more single drop of Matari blood will be on your hands. If an event like the riot on Dober Harn repeats itself then we will hunt you down and eradicate you ourselves. There is no room in Matari civilization to kill our own.
Love the hypocrisy
and love to hear of Mataris hunting each other down for eradication, it makes me all warm and fuzzy inside
Best of luck Mr Vapor
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast - - - - - - - - - - - - |

Tar Kovsky
Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2007.03.19 16:26:00 -
[5]
I personally endorse this position.
|

Mr Vapor
Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter
|
Posted - 2007.03.19 16:28:00 -
[6]
It's not hypocrisy. If they force our hand and we do have to hunt them down, then we will be fulfilling a role for the good of the Matari people as a whole.
Pod Pilots have a responsibility. These people look to us as demi-gods. Someone has to take responsibility for their actions especially since they believe they are emulating a respected and well known capsuleer organization. We will take that responsibility regardless of whether they accept our entreaty.
|

Wren
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2007.03.19 17:23:00 -
[7]
Mr. Vapor,
I like the initiative you take here. I also condone this on a personal level. I'll drop you a line soon, I think I still have a few contacts that might interest you. -----------------------------------
Wren says: "Chirpy Chirp Chirp.... DAMNIT!" |

Aran Cole
Minmatar The Aegis Militia
|
Posted - 2007.03.19 17:25:00 -
[8]
Hello Vapor. I wish I could say it was good to see you back on the InterGal. What makes you think you can lead these rebellious Matari (redundant, ha!) to destroy the Amarr when you and your organization are incapable of doing it yourselves? _______________________
|

Lowanaera
Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria
|
Posted - 2007.03.19 17:30:00 -
[9]
Originally by: Aran Cole Hello Vapor. I wish I could say it was good to see you back on the InterGal. What makes you think you can lead these rebellious Matari (redundant, ha!) to destroy the Amarr when you and your organization are incapable of doing it yourselves?
That's why they're trying to recruit from the confused general populace, they need more numbers to make up for their ineptitude. More lives to toss beneath the grindstone needlessly.
Keep throwing away lives in your foolish resistance, you're doing a fantastic job of solving our problem for us.
|

Mr Vapor
Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter
|
Posted - 2007.03.19 17:40:00 -
[10]
Thanks Wren and to you as well Tar Kovsky. I'm sure all the Matari organizations can agree that it's time for a solidarity of our respective houses not a division. We must focus the tools at our disposal and turn them towards our true enemies and not each other. Karin Midular may be a weak and worthless leader in my opinion but that doesn't change the face of our own personal responsibilities. I will look forward to speaking with you Wren and anyone else interested in the subject matter.
Ahh, Aran...you know I have a soft spot for you big guy. If it wasn't for the fact that you work for the Amarrian waste then I could even call you brother. However that's not the way things are so I'll just address your question.
While our ultimate goal is to indeed destroy the Amarr Regime, I would point out to you that it is a large regime. These things can not be done overnight as I'm sure you're well aware. HIRD just wants to give the Bloody Hands of Matar the ability to get it hands....well, bloody. You can't attest to the fact that this fits in perfectly with the way SRS has always operated.
Our goal is far reaching if the Bloody Hands accept our proposal. We will train them and arm them like I said. Then we will put them in Amarrian stations, slave plantations and the like and they will sow terror amongst the Amarrian populace. What's really gonna get you though is that the Amarrians will allow this because they are too arrogant to believe that it can be done. They are too pompous to believe that in all their religious zeal that they can be wounded thus. It can happen and will happen.
|

Aran Cole
Minmatar The Aegis Militia
|
Posted - 2007.03.19 17:58:00 -
[11]
Such dedication... were it only to be focused on doing God's work. I would consider it a major accomplishment to see you turned to the Light, Vapor. I would be proud then to call you Brother. _______________________
|

Mr Vapor
Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter
|
Posted - 2007.03.19 18:07:00 -
[12]
Aran, I do god's work. I send him fresh souls to reap.
I would be proud to call you brother as well if only you would realize that Matari blood flows through your veins and not Amarrian. It's really too bad but I don't think we'll ever quite be on the same side. I do understand you though. More than I'd like to admit. My position is firm just as yours is to you.
|

Karn Mithralia
Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2007.03.19 20:02:00 -
[13]
An excellent initiative.
Good work as always HIRD. -----------------------------------------
Now recruiting. |

Eris Davion
|
Posted - 2007.03.20 01:57:00 -
[14]
Originally by: Mr Vapor
So, I've come to offer something to the Bloody Hands of Matar. Namely, sponsorship.
HIRD will support and fund you. We will supply you with weapons and training. We will give you transport and focus. We will mold you into a fighting force of unimaginable ferocity. We will educate you in the ways of war. All of this is yours, under one condition....
Not one more single drop of Matari blood will be on your hands.
You should know that is impossible. If, as many among the U'K (and presumably Fimbulwinter) seem to suspect, there are ranking officials in the Republic government who are collaberating with slavers, there will be blood. Some justified, and some the result of mistaken identity and 'witchhunting.'
Even if not, groups like the Bloody Hands who believe there are will engage in witchhunts until they 'prove' their suspicions.
|

Mr Vapor
Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter
|
Posted - 2007.03.20 02:28:00 -
[15]
Well Ms. Davion, I'm of the opinion if you focus and train a weapon correctly it invariably finds the right target.
As for the recent turmoil with the Republic, HIRD has no place in the politics of it as far as we are concerned. We are not a part of the Republic. We only feel a responsibility to the people. The Republic will work its problems out one way or the other. We support the call for reelections and we hope the Republic becomes a firm and trustworthy government for the people again soon. Until then, we will take the actions that we see fit.
|

Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2007.03.20 02:50:00 -
[16]
I have only one question. Why in the name of Hel did I not think of this? An inspired move Mr Vapor.
Remember, if you find those who collaborate with the slavers within the Republic they are not true Matari and should be executed as Ammatar agents.
>> RECRUITING << |

Evanda Char
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
|
Posted - 2007.03.20 03:41:00 -
[17]
Edited by: Evanda Char on 20/03/2007 03:38:10
Originally by: Mr Vapor Not one more single drop of Matari blood will be on your hands.
Originally by: Telemicus Thrace Why in the name of Hel did I not think of this?
I know what you mean. We have too many enemies without to need enemies within.
-Eva-
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc is recruiting - join channel RTI-IC for detail |

Chishan
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2007.03.20 03:43:00 -
[18]
Mr. Vapor, while I like your idea as much as the next of us, I believe that the Bloody Hands are more concerned with effecting change within the Republic. Indeed I believe that if we Minmatar are to ever truly be unified, they are our best chance. In space, as pod pilots, we are the elite. The ebb and flow of power in the Cluster is defined by our allegiances. Our wars. Yet on the planet surface, we are have no mighty artillery. Our immortality is held in check. Our voice is no louder than any others at the rallies. The Bloody Hands are a mighty voice for our people.
One day, hopefully, the Bloody Hands can lead the charge to break the chains of our kin. Until the way of our tribes is determined, I believe that the Bloody Hands must remain in the Republic. They are a vital part of the movement to return to our traditions. To take them out of the Republic now would weaken any chance for our ways to truly return on our worlds.
|

Mr Vapor
Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter
|
Posted - 2007.03.20 03:55:00 -
[19]
Ms. Chishan, while I respect your opinions on the matter I have to disagree with you. Change within the Republic government needs to come through our tribal leaders and not violent protest. The Bloody Hands of Matar are ready to murder and kill anything that gets in the way of their ideals. The only thing standing in their way is other Matari. They are not focused in a constructive way to do good for the people.
My guess is that the majority of them are young. They have grown up in a Republic that is content with the status quo. The are disconnected from their tribal ancestry. Now, we can sit back and allow them to affect change within the Republic and kill their own or we can point the weapon to the correct target.
As I said, I for one will not sit back and watch them kill their own people and sow discord within the Republic that will only hurt the citizens. The leaders like Karin Midular will only use those actions for their own benefit and it will only hurt innocent Matari. I simply will not tolerate it and it goes against what HIRD stands for. If Bloody Hands persists in this manner, we will be forced to come down from the Heavens and put a strangle hold on them. We are well versed in doing such things and it is our responsibility to do as such. We, as pod-pilots, have too much influence and power to simply stand idly by while such acts occur.
|

Eris Davion
|
Posted - 2007.03.20 04:16:00 -
[20]
Originally by: Chishan
One day, hopefully, the Bloody Hands can lead the charge to break the chains of our kin.
There are the Hands, and there are the Voices. I saw you at the protest, Chishan, so I know you are aware of them. Yet you place your hopes in the one that has Matari blood on them already...
|

Chishan
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2007.03.20 04:20:00 -
[21]
I share your feelings on violence in the home world, that no Matari should spill Matari blood. So I ask you this, and the voicing of the question is difficult for me, if those in the halls of power are selling our people out, are they Matari? Do you think they will listen to the voice of the people? Do you think they will simply give up the power that they have? Should our people just give up then, looking down the gun barrels of oppression? As for us, what would we do? Shell our own cities from orbit, while engaging the Fleet?
If they choose to follow you Mr. Vapor, I will offer passage to your Cells on one of my personal craft. If they choose to remain in the Republic though, I just ask that they do not receive your condemnation.
|

Mr Vapor
Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter
|
Posted - 2007.03.20 05:09:00 -
[22]
Ms. Chisan, I understand that you feel the Bloody Hands of Matar are doing something important. I also understand that if indeed the people in power in the Republic are the true enemy then they can do some good. However, shedding of Matari blood by Matari is unacceptable. If the Bloody Hands choose not to accept HIRD's proposal then that is all well and good. They should seek peaceful protest. If they wish to spill blood then they should go against the real enemy, the Amarr. HIRD will not tolerate the killing of innocent Matari at home.
|

Ryas Nia
Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter
|
Posted - 2007.03.20 18:54:00 -
[23]
To thoes who wish they had thought of this, Vapor has always been one of our most active and creative members. The fear the enemy feels is evident every time we enact one of his plans. I will see to it that he gets the full support of every pilot in our alliance as well as from my own personal contingent of marines who will help in the training processes and offer tactical and logistical support the the Hands.
If any member of the republic wishes to show their support for this initiative but feels the current structure and politics is too stifeling for a public show, they are welcome to contact Camar, Mr Vapor, or myself and we will ensure your support is received by the Hands and our paramilitary forces.
This offer also applies to POD pilot organizations who fear republic reprimand or attack from amarr loyalists.
|

Goewyn Ravenclaw
Minmatar Stormriders
|
Posted - 2007.03.20 19:14:00 -
[24]
I have just the training setup you have in mind for the Bloody Hand Vapor.
Over the last year or so many a freed Matari has opted to retrain to take a more militant role in the ongoing struggle. Currently there are several cadres of well trained and dedicated personnel just waiting for a chance to strike back at the oppressive regime that is Amarr.
I'm certain there will be no shortage of volunteers to relocate and help hone the Bloody Hand into a force to be reckoned with.
|

Sardoniac
Amarr Ordo Quaesitoris
|
Posted - 2007.03.21 09:17:00 -
[25]
Edited by: Sardoniac on 21/03/2007 09:13:46 Terrorists funding terrorists. Who is the worst disease I can not say, but it is certain that the Republic does good in not supporting your organizations. Otherwise it would perish....like you will...
|

Blood of Matar
The Bloody Hands of Matar
|
Posted - 2007.03.21 13:28:00 -
[26]
How dare you..
You stand here and accuse of us murdering our own. What we all did we did in self defense, and you stand here and accuse us of murdering our own.
You, who we had held in such high regard, taking the fight to the Amarrians. How many of our people have you killed? How many slaves aboard the slavers ships? How many slaves in your acts of freedom? How many of our people are dead by your hand? And then you threaten to kill us yourselves?
And you stand here all high and mighty as if you hands are free of blood, as if you are better than us.
How dare you.
Unlike you, we are not blind. Once we looked up to you, now you are not worthy of being associated with us.
Take your threats elsewhere capsuleer, it seems you have forgotten your people. -- The Bloody Hands of Matar For the people. |

Darius Shakor
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2007.03.21 13:54:00 -
[27]
You are young and misguided and have no idea what it is that you are doing. Self defence you say? You threw a fire bomb from the cover of unarmed peaceful people. I don't know about you but I tend not to bring firebombs with me when I go out for the day unless I intend to cause trouble as soon as the opportunity presents itself. What you did was premeditated and on a personal level I cannot condone it. Neither can many of us whom you say you held in high regard.
We have no illusions that what we have done in the past in our liberation raids has resulted in many deaths of Minmatar people. It is a heavy burden to be reduced to a numbers game but more survive than not. And we did not put ourselves in this position, the Amarr put us and our kin that we liberate in this position. We did not choose the battleground, the Amarr have chosen for us.
In your case, your actions are your own creation, not one created for you. Your cause is the only thing I can agree with in the midst of all this, and the only pretense you can claim on being forced into a position you do not like.
One day you may look back and realise that what you have done in the name of that cause was just as bad as the people you aimed those actions at. ------
Shakor Clan Information Portal |

Wren
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2007.03.21 14:03:00 -
[28]
The cost in blood has been high, but that cost has always been to purchase the freedom and liberty of those we rescue.
My hands are indeed bloody, but never have I turned them against Republic vessles, or against ships which had no way to defend themselves. When I attack I state my intention and let them decide to either fight or shut down systems and let us take the Matari without violence.
The blood on my hands is justified, purified by intent. The blood on yours is tainted with cowardice, yet even so, I have made mistakes in the past, and I feel your goals are worth further effort.
Take up the offer set before you, and take up a life that is harder than the one you now know, or keep going as you are now, and become hunted by all, dispised as murderous cowards.
The choice is yours, as it has always been, and as I would die a thousand times to defend.
-----------------------------------
Wren says: "Chirpy Chirp Chirp.... DAMNIT!" |

Mr Vapor
Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter
|
Posted - 2007.03.21 14:32:00 -
[29]
Well, "Blood of Matar," I see no reason to hide behind misnomers. I was looking forward from a response from your leader, Marek Brandeira. I have no proof you are even involved with the group you are here representing. Although, I'm sure they are reading this and thusly I will respond accordingly.
My name is Visian Muar'Tarkan and I have killed millions. Millions of Amarr, Gallente, Caldari and Minmatar. Millions of deaths are on my head. I have never made a claim of innocence in that regard. What I do not do is kill my own people in an act of cowardice. You want to fight a war? Fine but fight the true enemies. You will never affect a positive change in the Republic by killing the very people you claim to be representing. Perhaps we can all learn a lesson from that.
The fact remains, I have taken the fight to the Amarrians pup and you have not. I have died countless times only to be reborn to renew that fight. You...you have killed only Matari. Which one of us deserves no respect? You sound more like an Amarrian or Ammatar sympathizer.
I made your organization an offer and you have seemingly refused. Now, I will make another.
To the Republic, I offer a battalion of the SRS Marines. Over 4,000 of the most highly trained killers known to man. They have faced legions of Kameira Warriors and lived to tell the tale. The are superb at hunting down and killing any target known to man. Regardless of whether the Republic accepts this or not, they will become present in every area you operate in and they will have very strict orders that should you incite violence among innocent Matari people, your lives will become forfeit.
Now, to avoid this is quite simple. As my brother in arms Wren said, it is your choice. I will not, however, allow you to spill more Matari blood unanswered. My clan will not allow it. You do not represent the People at this current juncture in time. You represent why this Republic is failing in the first place. Corruption of purpose. If you will not act as a true Matari Warrior then you will be taught a lesson. I suggest you get your leader, Marek Brandeira, to respond with an alternative.
You don't have to respect me but you do have to respect our ancestors. I'll see to it that that happens one way or another.
|

Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2007.03.21 14:56:00 -
[30]
It was not only Police that were killed in the demonstration. The Bloody Hands claim self-defence. I see no reason to doubt them. Others seem to prefer the official version and judge the Bloody Hands accordingly. --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity --------------------------------------- |

Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216
|
Posted - 2007.03.21 15:01:00 -
[31]
The true enemy of the matari people are those who believe in a 'republic'. Those who take action in order to dismantle this fable and open minds to reunion with the mandate are acting in the interests of the people.
Delictum 23216 Official forums |

Wren
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2007.03.21 15:02:00 -
[32]
Good point Kade. There has to be some video files of this. I'll pay for any video or holographic footage of the incident. In fact, I will make this very high on my current agenda to know absolutely what happened.
I hate being played. -----------------------------------
Wren says: "Chirpy Chirp Chirp.... DAMNIT!" |

Mr Vapor
Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter
|
Posted - 2007.03.21 15:16:00 -
[33]
It's really quite simple what I'm trying to do here.
If the Bloody Hands want something to kill, then HIRD can provide that. I don't judge them but I do judge their actions. Those "policemen" were Matari, the innocent people in the crowd were Matari. What would you tell the family of those that lost their lives that day? Sorry but you significant other worked for a corrupt government and deserved to die? Of course you wouldn't.
As of now, the Bloody Hands actions are a disgrace to their people. They make us look like the savages the Amarr claim us to be. Our infamous "Ray of Matar" makes it even worse by just standing idly by and letting our Republic fall into ruin. You want patriotism then I'm here to shove it down your throat. I believe in our PEOPLE. I don't believe in killing them. Firebombing a peaceful protest though....I guess that is the act of a true Matari.
Might I point out, once more for those not taking notes, that a full third of our kin still reside in chains under the auspices of the Amarr? Do you, any of you, think that these actions are going to help them under their yoke? I want to see a new leader at the head of the Republic more than anyone. I want to see action taken for those who can not take it for themselves. THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN WITH ACTS OF WANTON VIOLENCE AND DEATH UPON OUR OWN PEOPLE.
Listen to Kashaul Murik. He is a true voice of the Matari people. POWER TO THE TRIBES! Never, in all my days, have I heard a truer call. Stand behind your leadership. Voice your calls. Stand for what you believe but for Cizin's sake, do not kill your own blood in such a cheap and pathetic way.
I fear for the Republic and its people. I'm scared of what may happen should we stand idly by but I cannot and will not condone the shedding of Matari blood.
|

Tar Kovsky
Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2007.03.21 15:20:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Mr Vapor I don't judge them but I do judge their actions. Those "policemen" were Matari, the innocent people in the crowd were Matari. What would you tell the family of those that lost their lives that day? Sorry but you significant other worked for a corrupt government and deserved to die? Of course you wouldn't.
...and in any event, your quarrel is with those pulling the policemen's strings.
|

Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216
|
Posted - 2007.03.21 15:27:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Tar Kovsky and in any event, your quarrel is with those pulling the policemen's strings.
Yes!
Delictum 23216 Official forums |

Evanda Char
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
|
Posted - 2007.03.21 16:09:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Blood of Matar How dare you..
You stand here and accuse of us murdering our own. What we all did we did in self defense, and you stand here and accuse us of murdering our own.
Fists are self-defence. Your Hei-tar blades are self-defence. Guns, if you have them to hand when faced with a threat, are self-defence.
Firebombs aren't. They're pre-meditated weapons of chaos and random death.
When I take aim at a ship, I know there's a good chance that I will be coming home with several hundred, maybe a thousand, of our people, safe and sound. And I always talk to the pilots first. I ask them to jettison. I order them to jettison. I scramble and nos them, and I ask them again. I tell them again. Then I fire, and even when I'm firing they have to option to eject.
I take every precaution I can to secure the lives of our people while still denying the slavers the chance to get away with it.
When you throw a firebomb into a crowd, you're not even sure who you're hitting.
It's one thing to be angry. It's another to be at once destructive and unconstructive.
How does what is happening on our home planets make us anything other than weaker? We need to find a solution, not snarl and beat our chests because there's a problem.
-Eva-
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc is recruiting - join channel RTI-IC for detail |

Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2007.03.21 16:13:00 -
[37]
Visian Muar'Tarkan, I kill people family members every day because they work for a corrupt government. I do not enjoy doing it or threaten others who do it for the same goal as me.
You simply seek to control the Bloody Hands using a carrot and a stick - to focus their rage towards where you think it should be directed. They have repelled your attempt at seduction and you have resorted to calling them provacateurs. You, and others, belittle their actions, calling them young and inexperienced in the ways of the world - even start saying we need to worry about how the Amarr perceive us as savages.
They claim self defence. You accuse them of bringing violence to a peaceful demonstration. The reports say that the police provoked the demonstration. I was not there, I have never even been to the planet or taken part in any plnet-side demonstrations. You choose to go with the offical version. I choose not to believe the state. Simple. --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity --------------------------------------- |

Eris Davion
|
Posted - 2007.03.22 08:03:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Blood of Matar How dare you..
You stand here and accuse of us murdering our own. What we all did we did in self defense, and you stand here and accuse us of murdering our own.
If any have actually accused you of murder, it was me. And I am not with the UK, nor Fimbulwinter. I believe those others, who once you looked up to, have at most accused you of brashness and negligence while admiring your intentions. With your words here, you prove their accusation correct.
If you would take offence with anyone, take it with me. Do not spurn the offers of those who share your beliefs simply because they reveal to you unpleasant truths in the process.
|

Tablaren
Kingdom of Kador
|
Posted - 2007.03.22 08:52:00 -
[39]
Hmph, animals
Finally someone in the republic sees the folly it is to oppose the empire and the beasts below that office rise up and kill each other over it.
I must applaud the actions of everyone involved though. The leader who understood the importance of cooperation and the leaders minions who slaughter each other. I had not expected someone elected by the matari masses to be so intelligent. Of course the rest of you do a wonderful job and destroying your fragile republic's unity :)
|

Karn Mithralia
Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2007.03.22 11:54:00 -
[40]
Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 22/03/2007 11:58:38
Originally by: Blood of Matar How dare you..
You stand here and accuse of us murdering our own. What we all did we did in self defense, and you stand here and accuse us of murdering our own.
Just so its clear where I stand ... for whatever reason.
I offered support to Vapours initiative because I thought he was offering you arms to further your cause.
I was not there that day to witness events, but I do not trust the media nor those who manipulate it one bit. What I do trust is my heart and the outcome of action. Push on Bloody Hands, feel the fire within, destroy those who support slavery, no matter what blood is spilt.
Peace is a blind used to enslave and oppress. o> -----------------------------------------
Now recruiting. |

Thomas Maleficus
Caldari all professions
|
Posted - 2007.03.22 14:31:00 -
[41]
The Bloody Hands of Matar, You seek a responsible and responsive government. You want a government that responds to the people. Gather the Matari people, organise and protest. The government dismisses the Anti-Midular as a minority. The Midular Government does not hear the people because the people have not spoken loud enough.
I am an outsider, a Caldari, but I consider all Matari to be my brothers, brothers who I would die for. I don't want to see you killing your own people. If you wish to bring down the Government so it can be replaced by one that is accountable and honourable than organise without violence. I call on all the Matari to join The Bloody Hands of Matar in peaceful protest. Lay down the tools of your trade, stop the work you are doing, stop supporting Midular's government. No transit, no production, no work, nothing! Show the government you mean business. Let no more Matari die for the sake of Midular!
When this is over, and Midular no longer holds a failed position of leadership, then the real fighting can begin for the Bloody Hands of Matar. Then you can go out, join the pod pilots of the Republic and spill the blood of the Amarr. Until then, take the leadership role on the planet side that I know you are capable of. Good luck Bloody Hands.
Since I am sure that this communication will be closely monitored by the Republic law enforcement, government officials and the military, I address you now.
There are times to follow the orders of those who lead the republic. Now is not that time. The military and police have a responsibility to reflect on the events that have transpired. Think about what has happened and continues to happen. Yes you take orders from the Government, but the government is supposed to serve the mandate of the people. You must support the people, without them, the republic is nothing. They are your friends, your family, your people. Not one more drop of Matari blood need be shed. You have the duty to serve the people, do not stand against them. Bring about a peaceful end to Midulars regime. The planet side police and military, lay down your weapons, refuse to support Midular and help bring unity to the voice of the Matari People. Republic Fleet, turn your guns to the real enemy of the Matari, take aim at the Amarr. No government deserves unquestioned loyalty and obedience, think for yourselves.
To my friends, Ushra'Khan, Fimbulwinter, and the rest of you brave freedom fighters, remain strong, keep fighting and don't give up hope. You've seen dark times descend on the republic and even upon yourselves. But your warrior spirits and resolve will break through and the light of freedom will shine upon the oppressed and enslaved. Be strong warriors and support each other. Let none divide you.
With undying support,
Lt. Thomas Maleficus How does a constipated amarrian mathematician solve his problem? He works it out with a pencil. |

Derran
Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2007.03.22 15:33:00 -
[42]
I was about to say something but anything I say would just make me sound like a hypocrit.
|

Herritar
Minmatar Republic Military School
|
Posted - 2007.03.23 03:07:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Mr Vapor we will hunt you down and eradicate you ourselves. There is no room in Matari civilization to kill our own.
Apply that to the republic leader aka Karin Midular. Enough with the hipocresy.
This is not a war about RACE, it is a war about freedom. There were, there are and there will be "matari" traitors and individuals working against the freedom of our kin, (Ammatars for example). Being a matari is not about were you were born, it is about how you act, if your acts are against matari freedom you are an enemy. Those who kill and hunt freedom fighters are enemies.
Bloody hands of matar is a valid organization in those dark times and when the true war will start i am sure in wich side of the barricade they will be.
|
| |
|
| Pages: 1 2 :: [one page] |