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Kron Skir
Rapid Withdrawal
Pen Is Out
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Posted - 2016.09.21 06:09:55 -
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Hi everybody! Is there any way of launching the game without this annoying launcher?! I was ok then I need it to update the game and then can use client directly.
I can say why I dont like this launcher:
- it is very slow
- it is very slow, really i dont understand what is it doing while loading, but it takes more time to start launcher then to start client directly! It really amazing!
Also have no idea what are the pros to run the game only from launcher. So bad! So bad! |
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1040
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Posted - 2016.09.21 06:28:50 -
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Not since yesterday. No.
Launcher is the only way.
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
15588
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Posted - 2016.09.21 11:52:59 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Launcher is the only way. Not entirely true. It's fairly easy to code your own "launcher".
I have so I can just double-click a shortcut and it starts up and puts me into the character select directly.
/c
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
1217
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Posted - 2016.09.21 12:17:17 -
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Chribba wrote:Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Launcher is the only way. Not entirely true. It's fairly easy to code your own "launcher". I have so I can just double-click a shortcut and it starts up and puts me into the character select directly. /c
Yes, but everyone knows you have voodoo black magic powers, Chribba. I'm pretty sure it's from too much exposure to all that Veldspar.
Please don't melt my brain.
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
Also, iderno
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Don Pera Saissore
98
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Posted - 2016.09.21 12:18:31 -
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Chribba wrote:Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Launcher is the only way. Not entirely true. It's fairly easy to code your own "launcher". I have so I can just double-click a shortcut and it starts up and puts me into the character select directly. /c
Would you mind sharing it with the rest of us peasants so we can play the game. |
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
7994
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Posted - 2016.09.21 12:32:50 -
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Stop being naughty Chribba!
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
15589
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Posted - 2016.09.21 12:45:41 -
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Well I won't give you all my exact files but here's the how-to's if you want to write your own
1. You start by making a POST request to the following URL
https://login.eveonline.com/Account/LogOn?ReturnUrl=%2foauth%2fauthorize%2f%3fclient_id%3deveLauncherTQ%26lang%3den%26response_type%3dtoken%26redirect_uri%3dhttps%3a%2f%2flogin.eveonline.com%2flauncher%3fclient_id%3deveLauncherTQ%26scope%3deveClientToken%2520user&client_id=eveLauncherTQ&lang=en&response_type=token&redirect_uri=https://login.eveonline.com/launcher?client_id=eveLauncherTQ&scope=eveClientToken%20user
the body of the request should beUserName=your_username&Password=url_encoded_password
2. assuming you've logged on from the computer before you will get the following http 301
https://login.eveonline.com/launcher?client_id=eveLauncherTQ#access_token=bunch_of_random_characters_here&token_type=Bearer&expires_in=43200
The bunch_of_random_characters_here is the token you will need to use in the next step. If you haven't logged on from the computer you will instead be redirected to "type in your character on this account" so might be wise to have used the launcher for the account once before.
3. Make a request to
https://login.eveonline.com/launcher/token?accesstoken=token_key_picked_up_in_the_previous_request From this request you get another 301 to https://login.eveonline.com/launcher?client_id=eveLauncherTQ#access_token=more_random_characters&token_type=Client&expires_in=600 You now have the token to launch the client
4. LaunchC:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache\tq\bin\exefile.exe /noconsole /server:tranquility /ssoToken=token_from_step_3 /settingsprofile=YourProfileIfYouHaveMadeOne ""
/c
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Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar'
Twitter @Chribba
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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
7995
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Posted - 2016.09.21 13:04:52 -
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Now you've done it. CCP are gonna be le mad.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.
Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
15589
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Posted - 2016.09.21 13:08:44 -
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I actually had this info OK'ed years ago and it wasn't any secrets, of course they give no promises or support that the flow will work on 3rd party launchers, and you'd ofc still need the official launcher to patch up, and expect little help if someone steals your powershell script with your user/pw hard-coded in plain-text lol
/c
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Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar'
Twitter @Chribba
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
26876
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Posted - 2016.09.21 15:33:08 -
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Elenahina wrote:Chribba wrote:Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Launcher is the only way. Not entirely true. It's fairly easy to code your own "launcher". I have so I can just double-click a shortcut and it starts up and puts me into the character select directly. /c Yes, but everyone knows you have voodoo black magic powers, Chribba. I'm pretty sure it's from too much exposure to all that Veldspar. Please don't melt my brain. Chribba right now
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Kron Skir
Rapid Withdrawal
Pen Is Out
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Posted - 2016.09.22 05:29:13 -
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Thanks Chribba!
Still have no idea whats the point of running client from the launcher only... but its offtopic, nvm. |
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
8005
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Posted - 2016.09.22 07:31:16 -
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Chribba wrote:I actually had this info OK'ed years ago and it wasn't any secrets, of course they give no promises or support that the flow will work on 3rd party launchers, and you'd ofc still need the official launcher to patch up, and expect little help if someone steals your powershell script with your user/pw hard-coded in plain-text lol
/c That's what PS secure strings are for :D
Personally the new launcher seems to work well enough for me, and I like that you can run all of your accounts then close a couple then click run all and it runs just the missing ones. Nice touch.
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Sir Constantin
81
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Posted - 2016.09.22 18:02:00 -
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A little more help would be nice for those who don't know how to code. 
Running the 1 step using Windows Powershell ISE I got "Status 200, StatusDescription : OK" and a bunch of stuff but didn't return any token.
Then looking at that script:on the topic below, I think I need to add a lot more parameters to it.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5483560#post5483560 |
Cade Windstalker
556
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Posted - 2016.09.22 20:05:31 -
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Kron Skir wrote:Hi everybody! Is there any way of launching the game without this annoying launcher?! I was ok then I need it to update the game and then can use client directly.
I can say why I dont like this launcher:
- it is very slow
- it is very slow, really i dont understand what is it doing while loading, but it takes more time to start launcher then to start client directly! It really amazing!
Also have no idea what are the pros to run the game only from launcher. So bad! So bad!
Among other things the launcher is making sure that your client is in one piece and doesn't need an update. I believe it also runs some security checks and does other fun things like run 2FA if you have it enabled.
You can use Chribba's psudo-launcher trick, but if it breaks something CCP are probably gonna -»\_(pâä)_/-» and suggest you use the official launcher next time.
All of that said if the launcher is being that slow for you I think there's something wrong. It's very fast for me most of the time and previously when people have had issues with the launcher taking a while to come up CCP have requested logs and other information to improve it and then helped sort out and trouble shoot the user's issue. If your launcher is taking more than *at most* 10 seconds when there's nothing to update then something is screwball. |
Kron Skir
Rapid Withdrawal
Pen Is Out
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Posted - 2016.09.22 21:10:01 -
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Well... maybe somebody don't understand but its more like im tired of the updates which "knows" what is better for me.
Lucas, that is great that launcher works great for you. That is really great! The problem is why there is no choice right now? Why i have the only option. That is the point. I have nothing personal about running the game from the launcher... its up to you. It is just why i can't do it my way.
Cade, yes i used the launcher to update my client. After it i can use the client directly without using launcher until a new update released. Thats how i used it and i was ok with it. Yes right now i'm using the Chribba's launch trick. And just again... running the client from launcher takes more time for me than to run it directly. You can say, smth like: "im ok with it, its very good for me, there are no issues". Ok, im good with it and i dont want to argue with you. The only problem i have - there were two options to run the game before a new update:
1. Run the game from the launcher
2. Run the game from the client
Everybody can decide what option is better for him (or her). And right now its like... "i know what is best for u". End of story. |
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
400
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Posted - 2016.09.23 19:06:21 -
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Kron Skir wrote:Well... maybe somebody don't understand but its more like im tired of the updates which "knows" what is better for me.
Lucas, that is great that launcher works great for you. That is really great! The problem is why there is no choice right now? Why i have the only option. That is the point. I have nothing personal about running the game from the launcher... its up to you. It is just why i can't do it my way.
Cade, yes i used the launcher to update my client. After it i can use the client directly without using launcher until a new update released. Thats how i used it and i was ok with it. Yes right now i'm using the Chribba's launch trick. And just again... running the client from launcher takes more time for me than to run it directly. You can say, smth like: "im ok with it, its very good for me, there are no issues". Ok, im good with it and i dont want to argue with you. The only problem i have - there were two options to run the game before a new update:
1. Run the game from the launcher
2. Run the game from the client
Everybody can decide what option is better for him (or her). And right now its like... "i know what is best for u". End of story.
It's a cold hard fact of life: things change. Sometimes for the better. Sometimes for worse. Most of the time you cannot control the change. But you CAN control how you react to change. Adapt, improvise and overcome...or Sisyphus the heck out of it.
Dum Spiro Spero
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
1242
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Posted - 2016.09.24 04:11:25 -
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Kron Skir wrote:Well... maybe somebody don't understand but its more like im tired of the updates which "knows" what is better for me.
Lucas, that is great that launcher works great for you. That is really great! The problem is why there is no choice right now? Why i have the only option. That is the point. I have nothing personal about running the game from the launcher... its up to you. It is just why i can't do it my way.
Cade, yes i used the launcher to update my client. After it i can use the client directly without using launcher until a new update released. Thats how i used it and i was ok with it. Yes right now i'm using the Chribba's launch trick. And just again... running the client from launcher takes more time for me than to run it directly. You can say, smth like: "im ok with it, its very good for me, there are no issues". Ok, im good with it and i dont want to argue with you. The only problem i have - there were two options to run the game before a new update:
1. Run the game from the launcher
2. Run the game from the client
Everybody can decide what option is better for him (or her). And right now its like... "i know what is best for u". End of story.
This was a design decision made by CCP - it's not about which is better for you, it's about what they view is better for the long term of their game client. Time may prove them wrong, but there's not much you can do about it but accept it and move on with your day.
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
Also, iderno
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Kron Skir
Rapid Withdrawal
Pen Is Out
0
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Posted - 2016.09.24 05:37:01 -
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Agree and accept ) |
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