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ACESsiggy
Pandemic Horde Inc.
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Posted - 2016.09.26 16:53:55 -
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Dailies with Skill Points as the reward?
Before I left it was implemented but when I come back to the states 3 months later and it's removed I can understand if it was removed for the lack of various content/missions being provided but the 10k skill point bonus should be brought back.
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
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Posted - 2016.09.26 16:59:04 -
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I sure hope not. Dailies are the opposite of what EVE needs |
ACESsiggy
Pandemic Horde Inc.
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Posted - 2016.09.26 17:10:11 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:I sure hope not. Dailies are the opposite of what EVE needs
maybe it's the term you might be nostalgic to. How about Concord mission control objectives with SP rewards. 
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.09.26 17:16:21 -
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ACESsiggy wrote:Sonya Corvinus wrote:I sure hope not. Dailies are the opposite of what EVE needs maybe it's the term you might be nostalgic to. How about Concord mission control objectives with SP rewards.
Yeah the name, that's the problem.
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Hesod Adee
Kiwis In Space
No Points Necessary
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Posted - 2016.09.26 17:37:39 -
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In other MMOs dailies have served to keep me logging in every day, even on days when I didn't feel like logging in. Leading to more days when I didn't feel like logging in, but still did so for the dailies. Leading to burnout and me quitting that game.
Last time I quit Eve I got the daily urge from PI and trying to make enough ISK to buy PLEX. Which led to burnout and me quitting for two years. I'm not touching PI again and my sub will be paid by credit card from now on.
While games which don't have dailies sometimes have me go a week or two without logging in. But then I return and enjoy myself. |
Memphis Baas
2047
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Posted - 2016.09.26 17:57:32 -
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I think "with SP rewards" is the problem.
I'm not sure if CCP is still in favor of the whole SP trading system, esp. given that now they've had a chance to see that yes, a large portion of the player base WILL create SP farm alts, and esp. now that they want to introduce the alpha clone system.
I'm sure a lot of people just itching to tell them "I told you so" as soon as they post. |
SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2016.09.26 18:24:34 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:I think "with SP rewards" is the problem.
I'm not sure if CCP is still in favor of the whole SP trading system, esp. given that now they've had a chance to see that yes, a large portion of the player base WILL create SP farm alts, and esp. now that they want to introduce the alpha clone system.
I'm sure a lot of people just itching to tell them "I told you so" as soon as they post.
Er... what? What makes you think they didn't know that would happen? SP farm alts were already a thing, extraction just added granularity to the transaction.
What specific problem would you tell-them-so about, exactly? I'm not overly fond of the mechanic but I'd be hard pressed to identify and quantify any real problem that has resulted from them.
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Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.09.26 18:37:49 -
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Hesod Adee wrote:In other MMOs dailies have served to keep me logging in every day, even on days when I didn't feel like logging in. Leading to more days when I didn't feel like logging in, but still did so for the dailies. Leading to burnout and me quitting that game.
Last time I quit Eve I got the daily urge from PI and trying to make enough ISK to buy PLEX. Which led to burnout and me quitting for two years. I'm not touching PI again and my sub will be paid by credit card from now on.
While games which don't have dailies sometimes have me go a week or two without logging in. But then I return and enjoy myself.
If you ever do PI again, do what I do..Set a 7 day cycle so that it doesn't seem like a job.
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2016.09.26 19:28:33 -
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If I would be developer, I would give it to people. But only if you will grind 50 shipyard sites daily. I would make that exception to see your descend into darkness and basement cave of some sort where cheeto flavoured keyboard would merge with your fingers forever.
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Serene Repose
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Posted - 2016.09.26 22:36:53 -
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OMG. When you guys were talking about SP I thought you meant Solecist Project!!
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KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
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Posted - 2016.09.26 22:39:07 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:I think "with SP rewards" is the problem.
I'm not sure if CCP is still in favor of the whole SP trading system, esp. given that now they've had a chance to see that yes, a large portion of the player base WILL create SP farm alts, and esp. now that they want to introduce the alpha clone system.
I'm sure a lot of people just itching to tell them "I told you so" as soon as they post.
And considering the significant amount of RMT that revolves around the SP trading system.
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Khan Wrenth
Ore Oppression Prevention and Salvation
688
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Posted - 2016.09.27 07:08:16 -
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Oh hey, look! This can of worms again!
Let's discuss overhauling the way we get intel in EvE.
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Lan Wang
C.Q.B
Snuffed Out
3503
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Posted - 2016.09.27 09:23:56 -
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well with alpha clones dailies will need to come back to spoon feed children who cant make content themselves
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.09.27 09:26:32 -
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Lan Wang wrote:well with alpha clones dailies will need to come back to spoon feed children who cant make content themselves
Not unless we start a crusade against them.
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Lan Wang
C.Q.B
Snuffed Out
3503
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Posted - 2016.09.27 09:27:33 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Lan Wang wrote:well with alpha clones dailies will need to come back to spoon feed children who cant make content themselves Not unless we start a crusade against them.
you underestimate the power of 5000 12 year olds in t1 frigates
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Frank Pannon
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Posted - 2016.09.27 10:33:45 -
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Great clickbait title dude. |
Hesod Adee
Kiwis In Space
No Points Necessary
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Posted - 2016.09.27 15:45:14 -
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Drago Shouna wrote:If you ever do PI again, do what I do..Set a 7 day cycle so that it doesn't seem like a job.
That probably would stop PI causing me burnout. But that's not the only thing I dislike about PI.
So I think that it would be best for me to just extract my PI skillpoints, leave PI to the people who enjoy it. |
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
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Posted - 2016.09.27 15:59:44 -
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I'm pretty sure the devs said it was discontinued because it did not accomplish it's purpose -- Increasing player retention and subscriptions. They implemented it and it didn't accomplish their goal, so it was nixed because a bit of player dissatisfaction that results is increased income for CCP is ok. Annoying a lot of players over a mechanic that doesn't improve profitability isn't worth it.
If they later think up some new variation that they believe will work "this time" then they might implement that variation and see what happens.
Overall, I like that they will try things that seem to work elsewhere, and at the same time, they don't fall in love with their ideas. If it doesn't work, they drop it. Good show all around.
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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
Black Marker
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Posted - 2016.09.27 16:47:40 -
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Drago Shouna wrote:
If you ever do PI again, do what I do..Set a 7 day cycle so that it doesn't seem like a job.
That's what I do too.
It's just that I usually can't be bothered to restart it after those 7 days and instead need about a month or two for that.
Don't even get me started on hauling that crap to highsec (courier to Jita once it's in high) for selling.
I actually removed all my colonies because I wanted to move a system over. That was several months ago and I have yet to deploy those new colonies. Guess I'm not going to for at least another year.
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3947
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Posted - 2016.09.27 18:19:11 -
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CCP said that the old skill queue, where you could only set a day's worth of skills, had people logging in daily to reset the queue, and when they did, they tended to stay logged in. They would talk to corp mates and get caught up in some in-game activity. The result was more people playing Eve.
They hoped the daily mission would foster the same sort of behavior. But it did not, so they removed it.
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Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.09.30 11:26:04 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:ACESsiggy wrote:Sonya Corvinus wrote:I sure hope not. Dailies are the opposite of what EVE needs maybe it's the term you might be nostalgic to. How about Concord mission control objectives with SP rewards. Yeah the name, that's the problem.
yep just the name change that and i will have no issue being disadvantaged for having a full time job
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Hengle Teron
Order In Disorder
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
61049
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Posted - 2016.09.30 11:45:50 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP said that the old skill queue, where you could only set a day's worth of skills, had people logging in daily to reset the queue, and when they did, they tended to stay logged in. They would talk to corp mates and get caught up in some in-game activity. The result was more people playing Eve.
They hoped the daily mission would foster the same sort of behavior. But it did not, so they removed it.
Yeah, obviously the problem wasn't that people were not logging in for the dailies, but the fact that they didn't hang around once they completed it. |
Trevize Demerzel
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Posted - 2016.09.30 12:07:09 -
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Hengle Teron wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:CCP said that the old skill queue, where you could only set a day's worth of skills, had people logging in daily to reset the queue, and when they did, they tended to stay logged in. They would talk to corp mates and get caught up in some in-game activity. The result was more people playing Eve.
They hoped the daily mission would foster the same sort of behavior. But it did not, so they removed it. Yeah, obviously the problem wasn't that people were not logging in for the dailies, but the fact that they didn't hang around once they completed it.
It was too easy to kill the rats and log for the trivial SP it gave.
*IF* they rethink it and *IF* they brought it back... IMO it should be harder to acquire (harder as in take longer) and be more SP, worthy of whatever effort. ie... tied to completing 10/10 sites. Or any 5/10 thru 10/10 with varying amounts of SP dependent on the site difficulty. Or missions, or Santums or whatever.
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Rovinia
Exotic Dancers Union
SONS of BANE
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Posted - 2016.09.30 12:13:58 -
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Perhaps it would be good to reintroduce them in an alternate form. Characters with less than let's say 8-10 million sp's get their 10k Skillpoints. Everybody above get's something from a loottable with temporary ship skins, etc.
Reason is that I think it is a bummer for new players to see all these opportunities you have in eve and then realizing that you will need to wait X weeks to do them.
These 10k skillpoints are not that much, but it would give them a bit more the feeling of actively push their progression through actions. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.09.30 12:19:19 -
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Trevize Demerzel wrote:Hengle Teron wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:CCP said that the old skill queue, where you could only set a day's worth of skills, had people logging in daily to reset the queue, and when they did, they tended to stay logged in. They would talk to corp mates and get caught up in some in-game activity. The result was more people playing Eve.
They hoped the daily mission would foster the same sort of behavior. But it did not, so they removed it. Yeah, obviously the problem wasn't that people were not logging in for the dailies, but the fact that they didn't hang around once they completed it. It was too easy to kill the rats and log for the trivial SP it gave. *IF* they rethink it and *IF* they brought it back... IMO it should be harder to acquire (harder as in take longer) and be more SP, worthy of whatever effort. ie... tied to completing 10/10 sites. Or any 5/10 thru 10/10 with varying amounts of SP dependent on the site difficulty. Or missions, or Santums or whatever.
then why not just grind isk, and buy injectors
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Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony
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Posted - 2016.10.02 17:36:22 -
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Serene Repose wrote:OMG. When you guys were talking about SP I thought you meant Solecist Project!!
I agree, too much free SP in game would definitely be a problem |
Moac Tor
Cyber Core
Stain Confederation
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Posted - 2016.10.02 20:02:30 -
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How about if CCP concentrate on making a decent game instead of releasing gimmicks which are more than likely going to drive more players away....
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