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General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines	Posted - 2007.03.21 00:53:00 - [1] Edited by: General Apocalypse on 21/03/2007 00:50:28 Ok so i'd at the cross rowed between this 2 monsters. I tried to fit a Vindi but his CPU problems make baby jesus cry . Not even a full reck of best named t1 ion and he needs a Co-Processor II to fill his last low PG is also a prob. Maybe it's my mistake to try and fit a active tank but hell. Anyhow i tild more and more for the mach . Faster cheaper more vesatile Almost NOS proof and a sweet dmg . Here's my posibile Mach fit . Advice is very apreciated. BTW my skill are decent but not uber If someone can provide a Vindi setup as versatile and cheap as this baby it't woud be great Machariel 800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I [60xEMP L] 800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I [60xEMP L] 800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I [60xEMP L] 800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I [60xEMP L] 800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I [60xEMP L] 800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I [60xEMP L] Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Warp Disruptor II Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I [4xCap Booster 800] Large Armor Repairer II Centus X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Centus X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener Centus X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Internal Force Field Array I Counterbalanced Weapon Mounts I Counterbalanced Weapon Mounts I Rigs : Ancillary Current Router I \ Auxiliary Nano Pump I \ Targeting System Subcontroller I \ Hammerhead I Hammerhead I Hammerhead I Hammerhead I Hammerhead I 9301 shield, 10.94/s, E/T/K/Ex=11/29/46/64 10434 armor, E/T/K/Ex=74/79/76/72 4582.03125 cap, +11.44/s, -112.316/s 1267.0 m/s 332.9 DPS
General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines	Posted - 2007.03.21 01:22:00 - [2] Originally by: Zekk Pacus If you can't use t2, don't fly faction. Give me a break will ya . I know that t2 fit woud kick ass and i'm also trainig for it. Fit those banys whit t2 and let the mach as versatile as he is now pls. The vindi seems even more vulnerable when it's constarined whit t2 guns . However t2 electrons sound just meh While the dmg modifier is still under t1 ions . And besides in a age when NOS domix and othe ships tank like hell it seems to me that the double nos and injector will save you and help you overcome certain wepon fire . Ex: Megapulse abaddon even if he has 1 web on you. I indend to use it for a lot of solo work btw.
General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines	Posted - 2007.03.21 01:30:00 - [3] Edited by: General Apocalypse on 21/03/2007 01:28:46 Originally by: NightmareX This setup is better tbh. And i prefer better tank over better speed on the Machariel. High-Slot: 6x Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II 1x Dark Blood Large EMP Smartbomb 1x Tairei's Modified Heavy Nosferatu (33km range) Med-Slot: 1x Core X-Type 100MN Afterburner 1x Domination Warp Disruptor 1x Domination Stasis Webifier 1x Tairei's Modified Heavy Capacitor Booster 1x Tuvan's Modified Sensor Booster Low-Slot: 2x Tairei's Modified Large Armor Repairer 1x Corpus X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener 1x Corpus X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener 1x Corpus X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener 1x Damage Control II 1x Hakim's Modified Gyrostabilizer Rig-Slots (350 Calibration Points In Total): 1: Semiconductor Memory Cell II (150 Calibration Cost) Gives 20% more Cap in total 2: Auxiliary Nano Pump II (150 Calibration Cost) Gives 20% more armor repair bonus 3: Anti-Explosive Pump I (50 Calibration Cost) Gives 30% more explosive resistance And ofc, 3x heavy / 1x heavy & 5x medium drones Armor: 10868.75 HP. Armor Resist: EM: 74.5% / Explosive: 78.1% / Kinetic: 76.52% / Thermal: 79.65%. Total Capacitor: 7650. Max Cap Regen: 20.29 per sec / Max Cap Needed: 115.342 per sec. Velocity: 523.253 m/s. DPS: 702 DPS on a Charon with Hail L, and that's only with t1 drones. WoW Nice set up . Personaly i'm looking for something that's close range since most combat evolvs around a gate . Also double web is nice to have agains pesky vagas and slepnirs. Do you think you coud adapt that setup to be at something around 700 M - 1 B pls
General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines	Posted - 2007.03.21 01:32:00 - [4] Originally by: Zekk Pacus Originally by: General Apocalypse Originally by: Zekk Pacus If you can't use t2, don't fly faction. Give me a break will ya . I know that t2 fit woud kick ass and i'm also trainig for it. Fit those banys whit t2 and let the mach as versatile as he is now pls. The vindi seems even more vulnerable when it's constarined whit t2 guns . However t2 electrons sound just meh While the dmg modifier is still under t1 ions . And besides in a age when NOS domix and othe ships tank like hell it seems to me that the double nos and injector will save you and help you overcome certain wepon fire . Ex: Megapulse abaddon even if he has 1 web on you. I indend to use it for a lot of solo work btw. Honestly, unless you can use t2 gear and use it well, it's just not worth the extra price of a faction BS over, say, a Tempest (in this case). Unless you've got more ISK than you know what to do with, in which case I'd have to ask where you got it and if you'd mind sharing that source... Tha mach evolves somewere around 350-500 M atm so it's a nice cheap ship And isk comes from t2 loot
General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines	Posted - 2007.03.21 08:31:00 - [5] Thx Nightmare X you've been realy helpfull . And for those of you who say don't fly factio whidout t2 . You can shove that in your .... T2 offers only 10% extra dps per gun and the lovely t2 ammo wich atm is kinda fubar. Whiout t2 it won't be a OMGFKINGHAX0R ship but it will still kick ass. Anyone that wanna help the Vindicator
General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2007.03.21 23:36:00 - [6] Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 21/03/2007 20:50:13 Oh by the way, if there is a Machariel vs Vindicator fight, i would say a Machariel will win I just had some very nice fights on sisi against both a Vindicator and a Navy Mega in my Machariel some few days ago Yarr for Mach . BTW For al those who sustain the Maelstrom I had a some fight fights whit that thing and thb it sucks his 1000 dps coudn't save him from a poor neutron mega Originally by: Verone The day I go Anti-Pirate is the day satan shall be ice skating to work.
General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2007.03.21 23:37:00 - [7] And Nightmare it's Mach vs the world Originally by: Verone The day I go Anti-Pirate is the day satan shall be ice skating to work.
General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2007.03.21 23:56:00 - [8] Originally by: Benglada whats with the navy mega hate. No one hates them but vindis are just sexy and have more yarr . MWD & Cap bonus + Megatron + 1 mid = And the Mach is one scarry beast Originally by: Verone The day I go Anti-Pirate is the day satan shall be ice skating to work.
General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2007.03.22 09:04:00 - [9] Originally by: PauZotoh Zhaan Vindicator True Sansha Medium Nosferatu Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L] Shadow Serpentis Sensor Booster Gist X-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Stasis Webifier Raysere's Modified Heavy Capacitor Booster Core X-Type Large Armor Repairer Core X-Type Large Armor Repairer Core X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Core X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener Core X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Internal Force Field Array I Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Rigs : Ancillary Current Router I \ Auxiliary Nano Pump I \ Auxiliary Nano Pump I \ Ogre II Ogre II Ogre II Ogre II Ogre II 9999 shield, 12.5/s, E/T/K/Ex=11/29/46/64 11622 armor, E/T/K/Ex=65/79/79/71 6581.250000000001 cap, +18.62/s, -153.442/s 1812.0 m/s (with snakes) 953.8 DPS (raw dmg, no resistance including t2 drones) Nice setup . The vindi is gaining ground again Originally by: Verone The day I go Anti-Pirate is the day satan shall be ice skating to work.
General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2007.03.22 18:10:00 - [10] OK ppl thx for the setups now coud we see a final word . Anyone know's how it goes in Mach vs Nos Domi Mach vs Slepnir/Eos Mach vs Vaga Mach vs Cerb Mach vs Hyperion And Vindi vs Nos Domi Vindi vs Hyperion Vindi vs Vaga Vindi vs Cerb Vindi vs Slepnir / Eos And maybe even Machariel vs Vindicator Originally by: Verone The day I go Anti-Pirate is the day satan shall be ice skating to work.
General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2007.03.23 07:18:00 - [11] Those things are the best name t1 gyros and have 0.02% less dmg modifier then t2 Originally by: Verone The day I go Anti-Pirate is the day satan shall be ice skating to work.
General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2007.03.23 11:19:00 - [12] Originally by: Reinala Edited by: Reinala on 23/03/2007 09:29:43 Edited by: Reinala on 23/03/2007 08:27:25 Originally by: General Apocalypse Those things are the best name t1 gyros and have 0.02% less dmg modifier then t2 Edit after awaking: Oops, messed my math with faction gyro... So, why not Domi gyro then? The fisrt post was only whit the hybrid ideea. A lot of ppl have given me some good advice and the setups are modifed . All that reamins is some ppl that have taken on those situation. Mach / Vindi vs ** . And more inmportant Mach vs Vindi . Personaly i favour the Mach since the Vindi is more delicate when it comes to nossing . But on the other hand the Vindi might have so much dps that nos woud be i relevant on you Originally by:** Verone The day I go Anti-Pirate is the day satan shall be ice skating to work.
General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2007.03.26 11:30:00 - [13] Mach vs Nos Domi Mach vs Slepnir/Eos Mach vs Vaga Mach vs Cerb Mach vs Hyperion And Vindi vs Nos Domi Vindi vs Hyperion Vindi vs Vaga Vindi vs Cerb Vindi vs Slepnir / Eos And maybe even Machariel vs Vindicator No one knows the answers Originally by: Verone The day I go Anti-Pirate is the day satan shall be ice skating to work.
General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:28:00 - [14] Originally by: Ryysa Fitting t1 crap on machariel makes me cry. FFS how many times do i have to say that the OP was a initial noob setup. Thank you NightmareX for leading me on the dark path of the Machariel . Decision Made . Thx for those who sustained the Vindi but the Machs versatility is astounding and i think it will serve me better. Originally by: Verone The day I go Anti-Pirate is the day satan shall be ice skating to work.

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