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Kip Winger Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 12	Posted - 2016.10.04 01:14:50 - [1] - Quote So due to a 3-6 hour bump in Sivala @ Uedama gate today, it shows a continued need for this feature. Then a day before that, I witnessed bumped and held an Orca in Uedama for over an hour. This type of bumping is harassment. Before all the gankers jump up in arms, I am not, and have ever thought about taking ganking or even bumping away, but the ability to bump someone for hours in highsec is not right. CCP must agree with this, since they have come up with the 3 minute warp timer solution. We just don't know when it is coming. Soon please!! The 3 minute warp timer this is an important roll against the endless bumping if it is done right. There was a mention of sucide scramming a freighter to continue to reset the 3 minute timer. If that is the way it is done, it really won't fix the problem of bumping. So I suggest the following: The 3 minute timer should start the timer from the moment the warp button is pushed... If a scram is put on The freighter (or any ship potentially) and the person applying the scram becomes criminal, the warp timer should continue as normal. If the person applying the scram does not turn criminal ( due to a war dec ) then the warp timer is stopped, and the freighter is stuck This would only be applied in high sec, null and low will not have this dynamic. Thanks!
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance 3115	Posted - 2016.10.04 03:02:04 - [2] - Quote Kip Winger wrote: So due to a 3-6 hour bump in Sivala @ Uedama gate today, it shows a continued need for this feature. Then a day before that, I witnessed bumped and held an Orca in Uedama for over an hour. This type of bumping is harassment. Before all the gankers jump up in arms, I am not, and have ever thought about taking ganking or even bumping away, but the ability to bump someone for hours in highsec is not right. CCP must agree with this, since they have come up with the 3 minute warp timer solution. We just don't know when it is coming. Soon please!! The 3 minute warp timer this is an important roll against the endless bumping if it is done right. There was a mention of sucide scramming a freighter to continue to reset the 3 minute timer. If that is the way it is done, it really won't fix the problem of bumping. So I suggest the following: The 3 minute timer should start the timer from the moment the warp button is pushed... If a scram is put on The freighter (or any ship potentially) and the person applying the scram becomes criminal, the warp timer should continue as normal. If the person applying the scram does not turn criminal ( due to a war dec ) then the warp timer is stopped, and the freighter is stuck This would only be applied in high sec, null and low will not have this dynamic. Thanks! Wrong forum. You came to the place where we like to abuse this mechanic Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
Shallanna Yassavi Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 422	Posted - 2016.10.04 03:11:49 - [3] - Quote If they bump you for that long without a ransom demand, it's ticket-worthy. They're keeping you from playing the game. A signature :o
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance 3115	Posted - 2016.10.04 03:25:43 - [4] - Quote Good luck with that Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
Morgan Agrivar Divine Bovine Security Services 571	Posted - 2016.10.04 04:16:20 - [5] - Quote Shallanna Yassavi wrote: If they bump you for that long without a ransom demand, it's ticket-worthy. They're keeping you from playing the game. Nothing is keeping you from playing the game. Conflict is part of it. And realize that what they can do to you, you can do right back to them. It isn't an exploit because you have access to it too. Bumping isn't only a one-way street. It is possible to bump the bumpers off of their target so the 'victim' can warp off. People just choose not to... Nothing wrong here, please move on. This would cure me of the fear... CCP Explorer liked you forum post. Now my life is complete...
Tora Bushido eve corporation 987654321-pop The Marmite Collective 3472	Posted - 2016.10.04 08:02:44 - [6] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Wrong forum. You came to the place where we like to abuse this mechanic Not everyone, because I agree with him. Not sure if it should be 3, 5 or 10 minutes, but there should be a max. If you cant gank someone within that time, you're a bad ganker and your bumping is pointless. If you can, Awesome...... gank them all ! DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE ! Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1127	Posted - 2016.10.04 09:46:04 - [7] - Quote Kip Winger wrote: So due to a 3-6 hour bump in Sivala @ Uedama gate today, 3-6 hours? Really. Was it closer to 3, or 6? I know either is pretty long and beyond what many would consider reasonable, however such an imprecise figure suggests bullshit (exaggeration) at play here. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Lan Wang C.Q.B Snuffed Out 3520	Posted - 2016.10.04 09:48:32 - [8] - Quote why dont you just get good instead of crying Loyalist to Angel Cartel Your killboard reads like a "how to get farmed 101" - Noah Reese
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance 3117	Posted - 2016.10.04 10:25:19 - [9] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Kip Winger wrote: So due to a 3-6 hour bump in Sivala @ Uedama gate today, 3-6 hours? Really. Was it closer to 3, or 6? I know either is pretty long and beyond what many would consider reasonable, however such an imprecise figure suggests bullshit (exaggeration) at play here. It was between 30 seconds and 3 days ok Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
StonerPhReaK AFK Inc. 463	Posted - 2016.10.04 11:08:20 - [10] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Kip Winger wrote: So due to a 3-6 hour bump in Sivala @ Uedama gate today, 3-6 hours? Really. Was it closer to 3, or 6? I know either is pretty long and beyond what many would consider reasonable, however such an imprecise figure suggests bullshit (exaggeration) at play here. It was between 30 seconds and 3 days ok In Eve time that roughly translates to 12 minutes. Unless he went to the bathroom during a bump. Then that makes it twelve minutes 47 seconds. Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance 3119	Posted - 2016.10.04 11:29:51 - [11] - Quote Tora Bushido wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Wrong forum. You came to the place where we like to abuse this mechanic Not everyone, because I agree with him. Not sure if it should be 3, 5 or 10 minutes, but there should be a max. If you cant gank someone within that time, you're a bad ganker and your bumping is pointless. If you can, Awesome...... gank them all ! I remember bumping a certain orca that was going to be a wt in an hours time for the full length of that hour Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
Tora Bushido eve corporation 987654321-pop The Marmite Collective 3477	Posted - 2016.10.04 12:33:52 - [12] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: I remember bumping a certain orca that was going to be a wt in an hours time for the full length of that hour Lucky it wasn't me doing that. That sounds boring as hell. DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE ! Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance 3120	Posted - 2016.10.04 12:49:49 - [13] - Quote Tora Bushido wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: I remember bumping a certain orca that was going to be a wt in an hours time for the full length of that hour Lucky it wasn't me doing that. That sounds boring as hell. It was for about 10 minutes until his corp started to desperately try and save it. all manner of things was tried including logging off, webbing, threats, pleads about poorness. Was a good day all in all Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1878	Posted - 2016.10.04 13:02:00 - [14] - Quote Meh. He coulda got on the batphone and had his corpies gank the bumper(s). ....... wat? Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Kip Winger Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2016.10.04 16:25:01 - [15] - Quote Exactly... Gank it or move along. Tora Bushido wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Wrong forum. You came to the place where we like to abuse this mechanic Not everyone, because I agree with him. Not sure if it should be 3, 5 or 10 minutes, but there should be a max. If you cant gank someone within that time, you're a bad ganker and your bumping is pointless. If you can, Awesome...... gank them all !
Kip Winger Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2016.10.04 16:29:40 - [16] - Quote First... by your comparison... 30 second bump.. ok.. 3 days... Now your just trolling. Look back at my statement... Even at the lowest statement... 3 hours. Its too long. If witness are reliable (or CCP has more accurate data... which they have said they do in the past) 6 hours is WAY WAY too long. So thank you for your input how ever trolley it might be. :) Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Kip Winger wrote: So due to a 3-6 hour bump in Sivala @ Uedama gate today, 3-6 hours? Really. Was it closer to 3, or 6? I know either is pretty long and beyond what many would consider reasonable, however such an imprecise figure suggests bullshit (exaggeration) at play here. It was between 30 seconds and 3 days ok
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 2794	Posted - 2016.10.04 16:44:24 - [17] - Quote Kip Winger wrote: The 3 minute warp timer this is an important roll against the endless bumping if it is done right. There was a mention of sucide scramming a freighter to continue to reset the 3 minute timer. If that is the way it is done, it really won't fix the problem of bumping. Of course it will fix the problem of bumping. Bumping will no longer be able to hold a ship for more than three minutes. If you want to hold it longer, you will have to commit a criminal act and disrupt the freighter's warp drive. CONCORD will then destroy the tackler, just like it destroys any aggressor, and justice is served and you can then go about trying to initiate warp again. Unless you have overloaded your cargo to an amazing degree, no one is going to suicide tackle you every three minutes for 3-6 hours. And if they do, well you probably deserve it for annoying/tempting someone that much to go through such a hassle. In any case, we haven't heard hide nor hair of this change since it was announced almost 6 months ago. We don't know exactly what form it will take so when (if?) it appears on Sisi, then you can begin your agitation for yet more free safety for yourself. We are almost there guys. Just this one more nerf, and it will all be perfectly balanced! The 8 Golden Rules of Eve Why Do They Gank?
Kip Winger Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2016.10.04 17:12:59 - [18] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: Kip Winger wrote: The 3 minute warp timer this is an important roll against the endless bumping if it is done right. There was a mention of sucide scramming a freighter to continue to reset the 3 minute timer. If that is the way it is done, it really won't fix the problem of bumping. Of course it will fix the problem of bumping. Bumping will no longer be able to hold a ship for more than three minutes. If you want to hold it longer, you will have to commit a criminal act and disrupt the freighter's warp drive. CONCORD will then destroy the tackler, just like it destroys any aggressor, and justice is served and you can then go about trying to initiate warp again. Unless you have overloaded your cargo to an amazing degree, no one is going to suicide tackle you every three minutes for 3-6 hours. And if they do, well you probably deserve it for annoying/tempting someone that much to go through such a hassle. In any case, we haven't heard hide nor hair of this change since it was announced almost 6 months ago. We don't know exactly what form it will take so when (if?) it appears on Sisi, so wait until then before you begin your agitation for yet more free safety. We are almost there guys. Just this one more nerf, and it will all be perfectly balanced! You are right, we have not heard about it for a while. So I would love CCP to let us know when it will come into play. As for your last snarky comment, its never just one more nerf, as the game evolves, tweaks need to be made for all. Just like when the online notifications got removed unless it was a 2 way trust... or when the crazy amount of HP was added to the wrecks, so wreck popping became rare. It goes both ways my friend.
Chapo Muerte The Conference Elite CODE. 25	Posted - 2016.10.04 19:58:29 - [19] - Quote Because antiganking got bored of trying to protect a freighter that wouldn't pay a ransom they are now demanding ANOTHER nerf. classic
Dom Arkaral Axios 594	Posted - 2016.10.04 20:14:30 - [20] - Quote Basically, you and the 35 other dudes following the freighter around didn't manage to counter-bump a single machariel? Asking for a nerf when you had all the tools (lliterally) at your fingertips is just another proof that AG have no idea how to play lol I really enjoyed watching you guys not trying anything for whatever time the provi was bumped (especially his corpmates lol) #ccpleaseanothernerfforthosepoorag /s Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r Gù+Nitshe's favorite Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 011011116
Rawmeat Mary Celtic Anarchy Complaints Department 167	Posted - 2016.10.04 21:30:19 - [21] - Quote Stop going in straight line through Uedama. Use Lowsec Kubinen instead. With a scout/weber, its actually SAFER. 'If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins onto their clothing. And if we're very, very lucky, they'll do it in that order.' Yeah, we're like that.
Chapo Muerte The Conference Elite CODE. 26	Posted - 2016.10.04 21:36:13 - [22] - Quote Rawmeat Mary wrote: Stop going in straight line through Uedama. Use Lowsec Kubinen instead. With a scout/weber, its actually SAFER. But that's forcing freighters to use their brains and put in effort when its easier to cry to CCP for changes XD XD
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance 3126	Posted - 2016.10.05 00:05:54 - [23] - Quote Rawmeat Mary wrote: Stop going in straight line through Uedama. Use Lowsec Kubinen instead. With a scout/weber, its actually SAFER. But what if i want to auto pilot???? Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
Dom Arkaral Axios 597	Posted - 2016.10.05 01:43:06 - [24] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Rawmeat Mary wrote: Stop going in straight line through Uedama. Use Lowsec Kubinen instead. With a scout/weber, its actually SAFER. But what if i want to auto pilot???? set shortest route, enjoy your safe flight :D Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r Gù+Nitshe's favorite Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 011011116
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance 3126	Posted - 2016.10.05 02:42:03 - [25] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Rawmeat Mary wrote: Stop going in straight line through Uedama. Use Lowsec Kubinen instead. With a scout/weber, its actually SAFER. But what if i want to auto pilot???? set shortest route, enjoy your safe flight :D I've actually set auto pilot on my freighter many times. It's been ganked once and it was more to do with it being mine than anything else Edit: I was at keyboard when it got ganked. messed up the web Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
Saeger1737 Bite the pillow Archetype. 1778	Posted - 2016.10.05 04:19:46 - [26] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Rawmeat Mary wrote: Stop going in straight line through Uedama. Use Lowsec Kubinen instead. With a scout/weber, its actually SAFER. But what if i want to auto pilot???? set shortest route, enjoy your safe flight :D I've actually set auto pilot on my freighter many times. It's been ganked once and it was more to do with it being mine than anything else Edit: I was at keyboard when it got ganked. messed up the web I think I was there and watched it happen, and did nothing. MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 2796	Posted - 2016.10.05 06:41:35 - [27] - Quote Kip Winger wrote: As for your last snarky comment, its never just one more nerf, as the game evolves, tweaks need to be made for all. Just like when the online notifications got removed unless it was a 2 way trust... or when the crazy amount of HP was added to the wrecks, so wreck popping became rare. It goes both ways my friend. Of course it does. But those changes you cite were designed to improve overall game play and touched multiple aspects of the game. You however, are asking for direct nerfs to the ability to tackle capital ships in highsec at no additional cost or effort for yourself. This will increase the cost and difficulty of engaging in highsec piracy for no reason you state other than you seem to feel entitled to move unhindered through highsec in whatever ship you want. How does reducing the risk to highsec haulers and giving them more safety for no effort or cost make the game better? It just encourages players to get more complacent, load more stuff in their haulers, and haul them AFK more often, and increases their anger when they do finally lose something to another player because they couldn't be bothered to protect it. If there is a real problem (which is dubious - this more likely the result of carebear whining from players like yourself that has filtered up throught the CSM), it is that a single player can bump a undefended capital ship for hours on end in highsec to extort a ransom. So CCP is planning to limit the ability to bump-tackle ships indefinitely. They are not, as your OP seems predicated on, trying to prevent players from tackling ships in highsec at all so they have unfettered access to move their stuff around while watching Netflix. This not a single player game. You are not entitled to free movement or have some intrinsic right to never be delayed more than 3 minutes. Well see how CCP implements this (and can argue over this then, and in the correct forum), but it is likely to just be a simple reset which forces attackers to maintain a point as this is the simplest way to nerf bumping without negatively impacting the rest of the game. The 8 Golden Rules of Eve Why Do They Gank?
Mephiztopheleze Laphroaig Inc. 985	Posted - 2016.10.05 06:55:23 - [28] - Quote Kip Winger wrote: So due to a 3-6 hour bump in Sivala @ Uedama gate today....... soooo, just safe log off? if you have no capsuleer or NPC log out timers, you'll be gone in 30s. Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura
Tora Bushido eve corporation 987654321-pop The Marmite Collective 3481	Posted - 2016.10.05 07:56:24 - [29] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: It was for about 10 minutes until his corp started to desperately try and save it. all manner of things was tried including logging off, webbing, threats, pleads about poorness. Was a good day all in all Cant remember, but I'll take your word for it. At least we had the intention to kill it asap. I'm ok with that. DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE ! Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
Lan Wang C.Q.B Snuffed Out 3524	Posted - 2016.10.05 10:10:43 - [30] - Quote if only ccp allowed people to have alts where they can have a look on the other side of a gate for bumping ships and pirates, that would literally be a game changer Loyalist to Angel Cartel Your killboard reads like a "how to get farmed 101" - Noah Reese
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance 3129	Posted - 2016.10.05 10:11:20 - [31] - Quote Saeger1737 wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Rawmeat Mary wrote: Stop going in straight line through Uedama. Use Lowsec Kubinen instead. With a scout/weber, its actually SAFER. But what if i want to auto pilot???? set shortest route, enjoy your safe flight :D I've actually set auto pilot on my freighter many times. It's been ganked once and it was more to do with it being mine than anything else Edit: I was at keyboard when it got ganked. messed up the web I think I was there and watched it happen, and did nothing. To be fair I'd not have saved it either . But it and it's contents were needed for a C&P op so I went and bought another one and replaced its cargo and didn't mess up on webs the second time. Even with 2 machs waiting to bump it webbing got it out quite safely when done right. Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance 3129	Posted - 2016.10.05 10:12:12 - [32] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: if only ccp allowed people to have alts where they can have a look on the other side of a gate for bumping ships and pirates, that would literally be a game changer Or even better if you were allowed to have friends in eve to help you out and vice versa Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
Lan Wang C.Q.B Snuffed Out 3524	Posted - 2016.10.05 10:13:58 - [33] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Lan Wang wrote: if only ccp allowed people to have alts where they can have a look on the other side of a gate for bumping ships and pirates, that would literally be a game changer Or even better if you were allowed to have friends in eve to help you out and vice versa these 2 ideas are literally amazing, we should work for ccp and pitch these ideas to them Loyalist to Angel Cartel Your killboard reads like a "how to get farmed 101" - Noah Reese
Serendipity Lost Repo Industries 2251	Posted - 2016.10.05 14:27:51 - [34] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Kip Winger wrote: So due to a 3-6 hour bump in Sivala @ Uedama gate today, 3-6 hours? Really. Was it closer to 3, or 6? I know either is pretty long and beyond what many would consider reasonable, however such an imprecise figure suggests bullshit (exaggeration) at play here. It was between 30 seconds and 3 days ok No no no, you're not getting it. He was AFK for 3 hours before he noticed he was being bumped, so that is the bottom boundary and then he 'wasted' 3 hours of his day engaged in honorable combat before the incident ended. THAT is where the 3-6 hours comes from. You're probably one of those nubs that actually plays the game at the keyboard, so you're not that up on how the game is SUPPOSED to be played. I hope this helps
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 2864	Posted - 2016.10.05 17:09:19 - [35] - Quote Citizen! It is customary to wait for the nerf to arrive on TQ before crying for the next one. Or just gedgood already. You watched 6h of bumping and you and your 300 friends from ag where not able to do something about it? the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Rawmeat Mary Celtic Anarchy Complaints Department 168	Posted - 2016.10.05 19:01:38 - [36] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Citizen! It is customary to wait for the nerf to arrive on TQ before crying for the next one. Or just gedgood already. You watched 6h of bumping and you and your 300 friends from ag where not able to do something about it? Maybe their TS shorted under the flood of tears in the middle of it and they couldn't organize anymore. Tears of mirth. 'If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins onto their clothing. And if we're very, very lucky, they'll do it in that order.' Yeah, we're like that.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance 3131	Posted - 2016.10.05 19:38:48 - [37] - Quote Serendipity Lost wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Kip Winger wrote: So due to a 3-6 hour bump in Sivala @ Uedama gate today, 3-6 hours? Really. Was it closer to 3, or 6? I know either is pretty long and beyond what many would consider reasonable, however such an imprecise figure suggests bullshit (exaggeration) at play here. It was between 30 seconds and 3 days ok No no no, you're not getting it. He was AFK for 3 hours before he noticed he was being bumped, so that is the bottom boundary and then he 'wasted' 3 hours of his day engaged in honorable combat before the incident ended. THAT is where the 3-6 hours comes from. You're probably one of those nubs that actually plays the game at the keyboard, so you're not that up on how the game is SUPPOSED to be played. I hope this helps ah thanks. that does help Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
Kip Winger Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2016.10.06 03:32:46 - [38] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: Kip Winger wrote: As for your last snarky comment, its never just one more nerf, as the game evolves, tweaks need to be made for all. Just like when the online notifications got removed unless it was a 2 way trust... or when the crazy amount of HP was added to the wrecks, so wreck popping became rare. It goes both ways my friend. Of course it does. But those changes you cite were designed to improve overall game play and touched multiple aspects of the game. You however, are asking for direct nerfs to the ability to tackle capital ships in highsec at no additional cost or effort for yourself. This will increase the cost and difficulty of engaging in highsec piracy for no reason you state other than you seem to feel entitled to move unhindered through highsec in whatever ship you want. How does reducing the risk to highsec haulers and giving them more safety for no effort or cost make the game better? It just encourages players to get more complacent, load more stuff in their haulers, and haul them AFK more often, and increases their anger when they do finally lose something to another player because they couldn't be bothered to protect it. If there is a real problem (which is dubious - this more likely the result of carebear whining from players like yourself that has filtered up throught the CSM), it is that a single player can bump a undefended capital ship for hours on end in highsec to extort a ransom. So CCP is planning to limit the ability to bump-tackle ships indefinitely. They are not, as your OP seems predicated on, trying to prevent players from tackling ships in highsec at all so they have unfettered access to move their stuff around while watching Netflix. This not a single player game. You are not entitled to free movement or have some intrinsic right to never be delayed more than 3 minutes. We'll see how CCP implements this (and can argue over this then, and in the correct forum), but it is likely to just be a simple reset which forces attackers to maintain a point as this is the simplest way to nerf bumping without negatively impacting the rest of the game. "Improve gameplay as a whole", I guess you can believe what you like. You can tackle the ship... But then you go criminal. Then concord blows you up. But you don't get another 3 minutes to gank. you have 3 minutes to gank from the minute he pushes the button to warp. This is not including AFK piloting people. So as you say "Watching Netfix".. If your not there to warp. Then the counter never starts and it is on the pilot to push the button. So you can bump the ship for 3 minutes. "This not a single player game". Amazing you say such things. This is the reason why we have to live with the changes (for better or worse) to certain game mechanics just as much as you do. We all have a voice to be heard which is why a year or so ago someone on CSM person put the bug in CCP's ear about the wreck. In turn, maybe CSM did this... maybe it was just an evaluation of issues that have come up and needs to be BALANCED. Ya can still gank.... no one is saying you can't. Just move on with it. Maybe the timer is 5 minutes. Maybe 10. As you said we can talk about that more in the next post, when it is announced. I hope just to keep the thought alive with CCP.
Kip Winger Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2016.10.06 03:37:20 - [39] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Citizen! It is customary to wait for the nerf to arrive on TQ before crying for the next one. Or just gedgood already. You watched 6h of bumping and you and your 300 friends from ag where not able to do something about it? Full disclaimer - No Tears were shed in making this post.
Ansza Kalltiern Push Industries Push Interstellar Network 0	Posted - 2016.10.06 05:47:30 - [40] - Quote Mephiztopheleze wrote: Kip Winger wrote: So due to a 3-6 hour bump in Sivala @ Uedama gate today....... soooo, just safe log off? if you have no capsuleer or NPC log out timers, you'll be gone in 30s. Capsuleers are able to safe log provided they do not have any sort of timer, as you correctly identified. However, if your ship is being targeted by another player, NPC entity, or structure, you are also unable to initiate safe log. All bumpers target lock the freighter immediately to eliminate the ability for the freighter pilot to utilize safe log mechanics.
Dom Arkaral Axios 602	Posted - 2016.10.06 09:38:19 - [41] - Quote Kip Winger wrote: Black Pedro wrote: Kip Winger wrote: As for your last snarky comment, its never just one more nerf, as the game evolves, tweaks need to be made for all. Just like when the online notifications got removed unless it was a 2 way trust... or when the crazy amount of HP was added to the wrecks, so wreck popping became rare. It goes both ways my friend. Of course it does. But those changes you cite were designed to improve overall game play and touched multiple aspects of the game. You however, are asking for direct nerfs to the ability to tackle capital ships in highsec at no additional cost or effort for yourself. This will increase the cost and difficulty of engaging in highsec piracy for no reason you state other than you seem to feel entitled to move unhindered through highsec in whatever ship you want. How does reducing the risk to highsec haulers and giving them more safety for no effort or cost make the game better? It just encourages players to get more complacent, load more stuff in their haulers, and haul them AFK more often, and increases their anger when they do finally lose something to another player because they couldn't be bothered to protect it. If there is a real problem (which is dubious - this more likely the result of carebear whining from players like yourself that has filtered up throught the CSM), it is that a single player can bump a undefended capital ship for hours on end in highsec to extort a ransom. So CCP is planning to limit the ability to bump-tackle ships indefinitely. They are not, as your OP seems predicated on, trying to prevent players from tackling ships in highsec at all so they have unfettered access to move their stuff around while watching Netflix. This not a single player game. You are not entitled to free movement or have some intrinsic right to never be delayed more than 3 minutes. We'll see how CCP implements this (and can argue over this then, and in the correct forum), but it is likely to just be a simple reset which forces attackers to maintain a point as this is the simplest way to nerf bumping without negatively impacting the rest of the game. "Improve gameplay as a whole", I guess you can believe what you like. You can tackle the ship... But then you go criminal. Then concord blows you up. But you don't get another 3 minutes to gank. you have 3 minutes to gank from the minute he pushes the button to warp. This is not including AFK piloting people. So as you say "Watching Netfix".. If your not there to warp. Then the counter never starts and it is on the pilot to push the button. So you can bump the ship for 3 minutes. "This not a single player game". Amazing you say such things. This is the reason why we have to live with the changes (for better or worse) to certain game mechanics just as much as you do. We all have a voice to be heard which is why a year or so ago someone on CSM person put the bug in CCP's ear about the wreck. In turn, maybe CSM did this... maybe it was just an evaluation of issues that have come up and needs to be BALANCED. Ya can still gank.... no one is saying you can't. Just move on with it. Maybe the timer is 5 minutes. Maybe 10. As you said we can talk about that more in the next post, when it is announced. I hope just to keep the thought alive with CCP. I'll be concise in my answer: -The "3 minute timer" resets when tackled (that's from the original CCP thingaling) -the wreck changes were asked by super hunters in low/null and made a lot of sense (i.e. 5m ehp ship needs more than 500 hp wreck XD) And no EVE isn't a single player game, I suggest you look at the definition of MMORPG Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r Gù+Nitshe's favorite Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 011011116
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 2802	Posted - 2016.10.06 11:22:35 - [42] - Quote Kip Winger wrote: You can tackle the ship... But then you go criminal. Then concord blows you up. But you don't get another 3 minutes to gank. you have 3 minutes to gank from the minute he pushes the button to warp. This is not including AFK piloting people. So as you say "Watching Netfix".. If your not there to warp. Then the counter never starts and it is on the pilot to push the button. So you can bump the ship for 3 minutes. Why should it be that way? You are asserting this idea like it "should" be this way or is how the game was designed. Why do you feel entitled not be to stopped for more 3 minutes? Are you not aware that you are suppose to be vulnerable to other players, even in highsec and take steps to protect yourself? Capital ships (all larger ships actually) were explicitly designed to be vulnerable to smaller ships interfering with them in order to require a support fleet. I don't why you think you are entitled to immunity from tackle in highsec. There is no rulebook that says pirates only have X amount of time to mess with you like you seem to imply. Kip Winger wrote: "This not a single player game". Amazing you say such things. This is the reason why we have to live with the changes (for better or worse) to certain game mechanics just as much as you do. We all have a voice to be heard which is why a year or so ago someone on CSM person put the bug in CCP's ear about the wreck. In turn, maybe CSM did this... maybe it was just an evaluation of issues that have come up and needs to be BALANCED. Ya can still gank.... no one is saying you can't. Just move on with it. Maybe the timer is 5 minutes. Maybe 10. As you said we can talk about that more in the next post, when it is announced. I hope just to keep the thought alive with CCP. Exactly, things need to be balanced. Three minutes is not enough time to get a fleet in from even some neighbouring systems - that should be your first clue that CCP does not intend it to be some sort of hard cap. Proper piracy requires the selection of targets as otherwise, you just get the random destruction of ships that seems to generate so many tears on these forums. If you make it difficult or impossible to select targets because you cannot tackle them at all, piracy will either stop completely, or degenerate into just shooting the next guy that comes along turning who gets selected into more of a lottery rather one that punishes the most reckless of overloaded haulers. But game design questions aside, your bigger problem in getting your idea implemented has more to do with the practicalities of software development. Freighter ganking makes up a tiny fraction of the content in this game so CCP is not going to devote the effort to massively rewrite the arcane physics mechanics of the game just to make a few whiny carebears a little safer. CCP prefers to make lazy changes, and changes that are consistent across as much of the game as possible. They are not going to write a special warp mechanic just for highsec bumpers, and they are going to do as little as possible, both to maximize the use of developer time, and to minimize the risk of breaking something else. Given that warp mechanics currently work this way - that applying a point cancels the warp attempt immediately - it seems most likely things will remain this way and there will be no special exception or rewrite of such fundamental core code of this game so that no longer works in the case of highsec criminals. Most likely, CCP just wants to force tacklers in highsec to commit more to the exercise and prevent a single competent bumper from leisurely locking down another ship for hours on end at no cost. Personally, I think highsec mechanics are do for complete revamp as the situation is already beyond absurd. It is pretty much a complete failure of game design when it takes almost all the piratical minded players left in the game to band together into a single group (or two) to attack an undefended hauler in highsec. Such a design makes being attacked so rare that the risk is best discounted, so when it does happen players are not only upset, but completely outclassed by the few dozen players on the attacking side that are required to meet the minimum DPS, so no meaningful conflict can take place. I am not sure what the remedy is, but I am sure it is not to make freighters even more immune to attack in highsec with a hard 3 minute limit with no other changes. Certainly that is not "balance" like you claim, just another straight-out nerf to piracy. The 8 Golden Rules of Eve Why Do They Gank?
Serendipity Lost Repo Industries 2256	Posted - 2016.10.06 11:52:56 - [43] - Quote I think it would be reasonable to create a freighter cloak. It would be different than normal cloaking in that there would be no proximity uncloaking ability. Once cloaked a freighter would stay that way until its pilot turned the cloak off. The drawback would be that the freighter can't move at all while cloaked.
Drammie Askold Saints Of Havoc Moose Federation 49	Posted - 2016.10.06 17:48:36 - [44] - Quote I'm going to ask a really noobish question now; can other ships, the OP's friends perhaps, bump the bumpers to give the freighter time to warp? What New Eden needed was Wise Immortal Philosopher Kings. What New Eden got was Sociopathic Immortal poo-flinging monkeys . . . vOv
Dom Arkaral Axios 602	Posted - 2016.10.06 19:05:53 - [45] - Quote Drammie Askold wrote: I'm going to ask a really noobish question now; can other ships, the OP's friends perhaps, bump the bumpers to give the freighter time to warp? Absolutely :) Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r Gù+Nitshe's favorite Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 011011116
Anne Dieu-le-veut Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People 281	Posted - 2016.10.07 02:36:29 - [46] - Quote What was anti-ganking doing during this 3 hour bump, besides sitting and watching impotently while crying in anti-ganking channel? I saw a small fleet of y'all sitting around the freighter waiting to whore in on Concord KMs. Maybe you could have either counter-bumped the Mach or ganked it. Why in the world would they make your changes? Why should high sec bump targets get special treatment?
Chapo Muerte The Conference Elite CODE. 31	Posted - 2016.10.10 01:55:08 - [47] - Quote Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote: What was anti-ganking doing during this 3 hour bump they were failing non-stop daily and readying forum posts/reddit posts demanding changes from CCP.
pajedas 197	Posted - 2016.10.10 15:58:18 - [48] - Quote 1) I hate to agree with Tora Bushido but I do. Gank it or GTFO. 2) Dom Arkaral, you have no clue so STFU. 3) Chapo Muerte AKA: loyalanon, were you not permanently banned from playing Eve Online? (reported) And for the rest of you out there...you cannot anti-bump a bumping Machariel, no matter what these turds say. OP is correct, bumping is a broken mechanic and needs to be fixed. A freighter pilot needs an option, besides losing his ship. Don't say ransom either, I've seen countless pilots pay a ransom only to be ganked after all. Does anyone expect someone who participates in this style of game play to have honor?
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 2887	Posted - 2016.10.10 16:08:57 - [49] - Quote pajedas wrote: And for the rest of you out there...you cannot anti-bump a bumping Machariel, no matter what these turds say. Wow, calling other players turds? Seams like you are really mad about that video game. Maybe calm down a little. If you have trouble playing the game just ask, someone may even help. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. 3146	Posted - 2016.10.10 16:12:49 - [50] - Quote pajedas wrote: 1) I hate to agree with Tora Bushido but I do. Gank it or GTFO. 2) Dom Arkaral, you have no clue so STFU. 3) Chapo Muerte AKA: loyalanon, were you not permanently banned from playing Eve Online? (reported) And for the rest of you out there...you cannot anti-bump a bumping Machariel, no matter what these turds say. OP is correct, bumping is a broken mechanic and needs to be fixed. A freighter pilot needs an option, besides losing his ship. Don't say ransom either, I've seen countless pilots pay a ransom only to be ganked after all. Does anyone expect someone who participates in this style of game play to have honor? Actually I have had a certain well known bumper do me a solid and anti bump my freighter back to a gate for reasons before which let me web it on the other side. it can be done it just requires skill Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
pajedas 199	Posted - 2016.10.10 16:23:16 - [51] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Actually I have had a certain well known bumper do me a solid and anti bump my freighter back to a gate for reasons before which let me web it on the other side. it can be done it just requires skill You mistook what I said. In rare isolated instances you might be able to align/bump the freighter into warp. Of course with speed being a factor it's not as simple as, "point and shoot". If anyone is arguing that a player (be they AFK or at their keyboard) should subjected to 23 hours of bumping...you're out of your mind! Being targeted should not negate a safe log off. A Builder Or a Wrecker* As I watched them tear a building down A gang of men in a busy town With a ho-heave-ho, and a lusty yell They swung a beam and the side wall fell I asked the foreman, GÇ£Are these men skilled, And the men youGÇÖd hire if you wanted to build?GÇ¥ He gave a laugh and said, GÇ£No, indeed, Just common labor is all I need.GÇ¥ GÇ£I can easily wreck in a day or two, What builders have taken years to do.GÇ¥ And I thought to myself, as I went my way Which of these roles have I tried to play' Am I a builder who works with care, Measuring life by rule and square? Am I shaping my work to a well-made plan Patiently doing the best I can' Or am I a wrecker who walks to town Content with the labor of tearing down? GÇ£O Lord let my life and my labors be That which will build for eternity!GÇ¥ Author Charles Franklin Benvegar Senior Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Dom Arkaral Axios 609	Posted - 2016.10.10 18:54:44 - [52] - Quote pajedas wrote: 2) Dom Arkaral, you have no clue so STFU. How do I have no clue on an activity that I follow (and have participated in countless time)? Needless to say, your helplessness on the matter of "counter-bumping" being impossible is based on the sole fact you never tried XD Ask Jen how she dealt with it, her methods worked most of the time. And please, do put your money where your mouth is and make me Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r Gù+Nitshe's favorite Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 011011116
Galaxy Duck Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing 44	Posted - 2016.10.10 19:02:33 - [53] - Quote 3 mins just isn't enough, seems like some of these Amarr systems take 3 mins to traverse... 10 minute timer, totally reasonable, can't argue with it.
pajedas Special Activities Division 238	Posted - 2016.10.10 19:11:58 - [54] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: And please, do put your money where your mouth is and make me Fair enough: Sol epoch wrote: 2016.08.20 [19:32:33] Murdoch Luther > Dom Arkaral Hola [19:32:40] Dom Arkaral > herro! [19:32:41] Murdoch Luther > Sol epoch o7 [19:32:53] Sol epoch > o/ [19:33:40] Murdoch Luther > Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri -ü-¦-+-¦-+-¦-+-¦-¦-¦-â-+ [19:33:47] Serena Stardust > Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri o/ [19:33:57] Sol epoch > Dom Arkaral so when you rejoining Archetype? [19:34:11] Dom Arkaral > when game mecanics say I can [19:34:26] Sol epoch > Oh wait lol Saeger has to log in lol [19:34:44] Dom Arkaral > yo're ignorant, just stfu [19:34:56] Murdoch Luther > ohmydog [19:35:08] Sol epoch > Dear me the tears are real lol [19:35:27] Dom Arkaral > k [19:35:47] Joe Turnbull > gets umbrella [19:36:13] Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri > Serena Stardust Has holdmybeer finally left his S&M closet? [19:37:10] Serena Stardust > Yep.. He's been online recently.. :) [19:39:13] Sol epoch > Dom Arkaral I see another corp left Archetype yesterday! [19:39:43] Sol epoch > Well I read the mail in Alliance mail to be honest! [19:40:17] Murdoch Luther > No dirty laundry in local, keep it clean please. [19:40:25] Sol epoch > hehe [19:40:59] Sol epoch > My laundry is allways clean but I can't vouch for others! Not everyone has a happy place where they can go and be loved for who they are Senior Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment*
Dom Arkaral Axios 609	Posted - 2016.10.10 19:22:10 - [55] - Quote 35. Posting of chat logs outside the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited. The posting of chat logs between player parties is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel where they can be posted as part of stories in the Pirate Story Thread. bye!! :D Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r Gù+Nitshe's favorite Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 011011116
pajedas Special Activities Division 250	Posted - 2016.10.10 19:44:57 - [56] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: 35. Posting of chat logs outside the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited. The posting of chat logs between player parties is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel where they can be posted as part of stories in the Pirate Story Thread. bye!! :D Isn't this the the Crime & Punishment forum channel? Are we not telling a story about how you do (or don't) know wtf you're talking about? You can't have it both ways. Now, go and give Jimmy 3:12 another 100m and stfu. Senior Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Sol epoch HELVEGEN 345	Posted - 2016.10.10 19:48:52 - [57] - Quote pajedas wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: 35. Posting of chat logs outside the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited. The posting of chat logs between player parties is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel where they can be posted as part of stories in the Pirate Story Thread. bye!! :D Isn't this the the Crime & Punishment forum channel? Are we not telling a story about how you do (or don't) know wtf you're talking about? You can't have it both ways. Now, go and give Jimmy 3:12 another 100m and stfu. ROFL Not Dom failing again!!
Dom Arkaral Axios 609	Posted - 2016.10.10 19:49:11 - [58] - Quote pajedas wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: 35. Posting of chat logs outside the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited. The posting of chat logs between player parties is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel where they can be posted as part of stories in the Pirate Story Thread. bye!! :D Isn't this the the Crime & Punishment forum channel? Are we not telling a story about how you do (or don't) know wtf you're talking about? You can't have it both ways. Now, go and give Jimmy 3:12 another 100m and stfu. oh man so salty and quick to give likes with his alts :D This isn't the pirate story thread.. This is only another thread about AG trying to get "one more nerf(TM)" Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r Gù+Nitshe's favorite Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 011011116
Chapo Muerte The Conference Elite CODE. 35	Posted - 2016.10.10 20:08:10 - [59] - Quote pajedas wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: 35. Posting of chat logs outside the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited. The posting of chat logs between player parties is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel where they can be posted as part of stories in the Pirate Story Thread. bye!! :D Isn't this the the Crime & Punishment forum channel? Are we not telling a story about how you do (or don't) know wtf you're talking about? You can't have it both ways. Now, go and give Jimmy 3:12 another 100m and stfu. The salt is real XD. Only been playing for 2 months and we see you whining in uedama local non-stop because of your inability to stop ganks. Please try harder and stop crying for attention because you are ineffective at doing anything to stop code.
Galaxy Duck Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing 45	Posted - 2016.10.10 20:09:43 - [60] - Quote Lol, he's got a cool bounty though! 315 4 CSM!
pajedas Special Activities Division 269	Posted - 2016.10.10 20:14:20 - [61] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: oh man so salty and quick to give likes with his alts :D I am not Jason Kusion. Dom Arkaral wrote: This isn't the pirate story thread.. Are you daft man? How is this NOT a pirate story? Dom Arkaral wrote: This is only another thread about AG trying to get "one more nerf(TM)" Are you serious? The OP isn't asking for a nerf (like you guys did with wrecks). He's simply asking that a broken mechanic be fixed. If a big fat a$$ tuna boat can travel at the speed of light, I'm pretty sure those future beings would have figured out a way to maneuver around Siegfried Cohenberg. Senior Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
pajedas Special Activities Division 269	Posted - 2016.10.10 20:21:32 - [62] - Quote Galaxy Duck wrote: Lol, he's got a cool bounty though! 315 4 CSM! You're scraping the bottom of the lame barrel. Bounty placed on you From: CONCORD Sent: 2016.10.10 18:33 Galaxy Duck placed 894,895 ISK in bounty on your head. Senior Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Dom Arkaral Axios 611	Posted - 2016.10.10 20:22:08 - [63] - Quote pajedas wrote: The OP isn't asking for a nerf (like you guys did with wrecks) show me the link to said post or gtfo lol I'm done arguing with rocks People are nicer :) Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r Gù+Nitshe's favorite Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 011011116
Chapo Muerte The Conference Elite CODE. 35	Posted - 2016.10.10 20:37:01 - [64] - Quote Galaxy Duck wrote: 10 minute timer, totally reasonable, can't argue with it. but that conflicts with the AG narrative that ganking/bumping is cyberbullying
pajedas Special Activities Division 269	Posted - 2016.10.10 21:09:12 - [65] - Quote Chapo Muerte wrote: Only been playing for 2 months. Really? It's not that hard to figure out who your alts are. Your killboard tells a grand tale, a pirate story as it were... loyalanon loyal anon Allise Soprano Freighter Soprano Wolf Soprano Zaphia Soprano Raven Montana Chapo Muerte La Hermana Blanca La Nina Bonita I'm sure there are more. Hope your ban is going well. Senior Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Chapo Muerte The Conference Elite CODE. 35	Posted - 2016.10.10 21:13:45 - [66] - Quote pajedas wrote: Chapo Muerte wrote: Only been playing for 2 months. Really? It's not that hard to figure out who your alts are. Your killboard tells a grand tale, a pirate story as it were... loyalanon loyal anon Allise Soprano Freighter Soprano Wolf Soprano Zaphia Soprano Raven Montana Chapo Muerte La Hermana Blanca La Nina Bonita I'm sure there are more. Hope your ban is going well. Quick get the tinfoil hats on. an antiganker is salty he cant affect code. get out the petition hammers XD stay mad and keep the tinfoil hat on XD p.s - you forgot my goon characters.
pajedas Special Activities Division 269	Posted - 2016.10.10 21:44:54 - [67] - Quote Chapo Muerte wrote: p.s - you forgot my goon characters. Showing your hand again. You're just not that smart mate. Senior Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Chapo Muerte The Conference Elite CODE. 35	Posted - 2016.10.10 22:04:20 - [68] - Quote pajedas wrote: Chapo Muerte wrote: p.s - you forgot my goon characters. Showing your hand again. You're just not that smart mate. stay mad dude. without code you wouldn't have anything to do, but keep trying to feel important. btw have you learnt how to counter bump freighters yet? sitting at 40km's away doesn't do much to stop anything (I can see why you feel the need to shed tears on the forums considering how ineffective you are) Thankyou again for all your glorious tears.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 2893	Posted - 2016.10.11 04:47:56 - [69] - Quote pajedas wrote: The OP isn't asking for a nerf (like you guys did with wrecks). There are even two threads where OP directly asks for a nerf because AG is not up to the task without fundamental game changes. Please show us the thread where we ask for a wreck buff, must have missed that. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
pajedas Special Activities Division 270	Posted - 2016.10.11 07:26:16 - [70] - Quote loyalanon wrote: Should I complain about the fact that antigankers can repair freighters risk free with logistics ships? No, I just bring more dps. That's called overcoming a problem. instead of wanting someone to overcome it for me. How is repairing a freighter in the middle of a gank, "risk free"? Xirtam will be missed
Morgan Agrivar Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 582	Posted - 2016.10.11 10:12:38 - [71] - Quote Well this thread went all to hell...oh who am I kidding, they always do. Some days, I log onto the forums, stare at it and wonder why I bother... This would cure me of the fear... CCP Explorer liked you forum post. Now my life is complete...
Dom Arkaral Axios 618	Posted - 2016.10.11 11:54:47 - [72] - Quote Morgan Agrivar wrote: Well this thread went all to hell...oh who am I kidding, they always do. Some days, I log onto the forums, stare at it and wonder why I bother... Because, like most of the C&P crowd, you like salt and tears :P Btw Pajedas, still waiting for the link to the thread where CODE. asked CCP to buff wreck hp Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r Gù+Nitshe's favorite Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 011011116
ISD Max Trix isd community communications liaisons 378	Posted - 2016.10.11 13:16:10 - [73] - Quote Removed off topic posts and those quoting them. Edited a post with chat logs. Chat logs are only permitted in the Pirate story thread and only under certain conditions. ISD Max Trix Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department *I do not respond to Evemails.*
Niten Doraku Abolish the Code 2	Posted - 2016.10.11 22:32:54 - [74] - Quote Bumping is ridiculously easy and OP. I say five minutes is more than adequate. "A person is a person no matter how small." ~Horton~ "A griefer is a griefer no matter how lame." ~Niten~ *The code is a lie. Their own members don't practice it.*
Dom Arkaral Axios 618	Posted - 2016.10.11 23:08:26 - [75] - Quote Niten Doraku wrote: Bumping is ridiculously easy and OP. I say five minutes is more than adequate. "A person is a person no matter how small." ~Horton~ "A griefer is a griefer no matter how lame." ~Niten~ Funny, Each time you tried to bump my immobile Loki, you failed miserably XD Must have been because it was too easy eh? Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r Gù+Nitshe's favorite Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 011011116
Niten Doraku Abolish the Code 2	Posted - 2016.10.12 03:46:12 - [76] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Niten Doraku wrote: Bumping is ridiculously easy and OP. I say five minutes is more than adequate. "A person is a person no matter how small." ~Horton~ "A griefer is a griefer no matter how lame." ~Niten~ Funny, Each time you tried to bump my immobile Loki, you failed miserably XD Must have been because it was too easy eh? Do you really want to go there Donna? You had your little t3 wedged in that un-dock so far and so tightly, I'm pretty sure quarks couldn't have gotten between you and the station. Kind of reminds me of someone with acrophobia being forced out onto the ledge of a skyscraper, digging their nails into the concrete... *I infiltrated the c0d3 and what I saw was inauspicious.*
Dom Arkaral Axios 621	Posted - 2016.10.12 09:31:49 - [77] - Quote Niten Doraku wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Niten Doraku wrote: Bumping is ridiculously easy and OP. I say five minutes is more than adequate. "A person is a person no matter how small." ~Horton~ "A griefer is a griefer no matter how lame." ~Niten~ Funny, Each time you tried to bump my immobile Loki, you failed miserably XD Must have been because it was too easy eh? Do you really want to go there Donna? You had your little t3 wedged in that un-dock so far and so tightly, I'm pretty sure quarks couldn't have gotten between you and the station. Kind of reminds me of someone with acrophobia being forced out onto the ledge of a skyscraper, digging their nails into the concrete... Didn't know I could wedge a ship in a kick-out style station XD It was even funnier seeing you trying to hit a moving target, and giving the carebear stare (as one would expect lol) Might want to change your bio too, since you didn't learn a single one of CODE.'s tactics (otherwise you wouldn't fail as bad as AG Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r Gù+Nitshe's favorite Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 011011116
Niten Doraku Abolish the Code 2	Posted - 2016.10.12 11:57:33 - [78] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: It was even funnier seeing you trying to hit a moving target, and giving the carebear stare (as one would expect lol) Might want to change your bio too, since you didn't learn a single one of CODE.'s tactics (otherwise you wouldn't fail as bad as AG I have no idea what you're talking about. I do lots of stuff Now, given the fact that the collective opinion of Archetype, Marmite and c0d3 is that your name is "syn-+on-+y-+mous" with fail...I will conclude our interaction. If you ever see me in space, by all means feel free to engage. *I infiltrated c0d3 and what I saw was inauspicious.*
Dom Arkaral Axios 621	Posted - 2016.10.12 12:42:13 - [79] - Quote Niten Doraku wrote: Now, given the fact that the collective opinion of Archetype, Marmite and c0d3 is that your name is "syn-+on-+y-+mous" with fail.. I still have good relations with both Marmite and ATYPE, and I'm pretty good friends with most of CODE. If I were a failure I wouldn't have been accepted in the first 2 Speaking of fail, I don't see you joining the CODE. alliance. Yet you "infiltrated them and learned all there is" lol I could go on for days Niten, aka Mollie Mormon, aka Any Body Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r Gù+Nitshe's favorite Gù+Bane of Holeysaltmountain 01010000 01101111 01110100 01100001 01110100 011011116
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri New Order Logistics CODE. 567	Posted - 2016.10.12 12:53:12 - [80] - Quote "Learned all there is". Still ganking scanning frigates with T2 Catalysts. Sounds legit.

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