Thank you for your rely. I would like to point out though that not one of my carriers has paid for itself due to the interception of pvp ganking crews. the last carrier did 2x core garrison sites at approx 350m isk each but the carrier loses were 2.1b isk. not a good business model. i finance their build by mining gas and what i can actually pve in the c5 wh were i live. I think i do get the drift of those comments that have been left and that is that the unfairness to the game shouldnt be a worry - but - let me tell you i feel like throwing stuff around the room when i get ganked like that and i put that down to a natural reaction to injustice that seem to be inbuilt. That instinct seems to have fuelled people like Mandela, Luther king etc. when injustice is real and needs addressing of which they did. ( im not making a heroic comparison to myself here though as that would be ridiculous ! ) Even though eve is a game it still appies. Eve advertises careers in mining , exploration , industry , pve etc but when it comes to pve a c6 wh is the ultimate and it cant actually be realised at present in a way that even breaks even in effort, time and skill. That needs addressing in my view. It does sound as if i stand alone in this point and i will have to let the matter rest and consider my future.