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king jks
New Age Solutions
New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.03.23 21:10:00 -
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What I really want to see are new hybrid factions, like gallente/amarr and caldari/minmatar.
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate v2.0
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Posted - 2007.03.23 21:25:00 -
[32]
 Originally by: king jks
What I really want to see are new hybrid factions, like gallente/amarr and caldari/minmatar.
caldari/minmatar
HP similar to machariel
slot layout 8 - 5 - 7
7 missile hardpoints
special ability: 50% bonus to missile flight time
caldari BS skill level: 5% bonus to cruise and torp ROF
minmatar BS skill level: 5% bonus to missile explosive damage
giev!!1!111!!!
Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly
Radio is essential for Amarr, to call the much needed backup...
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Majin82
Caldari
g guild
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Posted - 2007.03.23 21:58:00 -
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Here are some Typical PVP setups and the Problems when it comes to fitting.
Raven
6 x Siege Missile Launcher II
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Photon Scattering Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Faint Warp Prohibitor I
Reactor Control Unit II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Co-Processor II
Local Hull Conversion Inertial Stabilizers I
Need to Use a RCU II or you donĘt have enough PG to needed items. Not enough CPU left for anything besides Hull and Propulsion mods when done.
Raven Navy Issue
7 x Siege Missile Launcher II
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
X-Large Shield Booster II
Photon Scattering Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Faint Warp Prohibitor I
Reactor Control Unit II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Co-Processor II
Local Hull Conversion Inertial Stabilizers I
Not a very good Idea to try to do solo in this, but a Faction BS SHOULD be able to Solo when the regular version canĘt. As you can see, No room for BCU at all.
Raven Navy Issue
7 x Siege Missile Launcher II
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Gist X-Type Photon Scattering Field
Gist X-Type Heat Dissipation Field
Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field
Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field
Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Internal Force Field Array I
Using typical Faction gear a person might have you can see that I have had to give up on the Idea of Solo because there is no good way to fit Tackling gear and keep a balanced tank. Again no Room for BCUĘs at all. If I replace 2 of the PDU IIĘs with a RCU II, I run into CPU issues again and donĘt get the nice benefits of the PDU.
As you can see the CNR is not easy to fit using Torp launchers. I have level 4 or 5 in most areas that matter (Electronics 5, Engineering 5, AWU 4 ectą) and I still canĘt seem to work a good fitting out; keep ending up 2 or 3 points of CPU short. If you think the CNR is fine and doesnĘt need more CPU or PG, please post a Good, Realistic, Faction/Officer Mod setup that can Solo another BS or 2.
I think the CNR needs 100 more CPU and 2000 more PG. Please DonĘt bother posting some nothing but Faction/Officer gear setup because only .1 % of CNR owners have that much Faction/Officer Gear.
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate v2.0
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Posted - 2007.03.23 22:21:00 -
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Majin:
raven
solo
pvp
Pick two. It just doesn't work.
Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly
Radio is essential for Amarr, to call the much needed backup...
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Majin82
Caldari
g guild
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Posted - 2007.03.23 22:24:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Sokratesz
Majin:
raven
solo
pvp
Pick two. It just doesn't work.
I know... and it makes me cry when I look at all the SP's I have in Missiles.
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The difference between a Pirate and an Anti-Pirate is that an Anti-Pirate fights ships fitted with guns!
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Chronus26
Gallente
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.03.23 22:28:00 -
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You could try just not fitting a scrambler... unless your pirating or whatnot, sometimes it doesnt occur to people that they might not be scrambled 
Anyway, I love my Navy Mega how it is, but if the powers that be feel it needs a wee boost to CPU/PG i'm not gonna say no...
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.23 23:39:00 -
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You dont actually have to tackle to solo. You only have to tackle to killmail *****.
But tbh you will probably get similar amounts of killmails since most people assume you are scrambling.
I've been psych-scrambling for months. And I dont even shield tank.
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Mastin Dragonfly
Amarr Navy Runners
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Posted - 2007.03.24 00:17:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: king jks
What I really want to see are new hybrid factions, like gallente/amarr and caldari/minmatar.
caldari/minmatar
HP similar to machariel
slot layout 8 - 5 - 7
7 missile hardpoints
special ability: 50% bonus to missile flight time
caldari BS skill level: 5% bonus to cruise and torp ROF
minmatar BS skill level: 5% bonus to missile explosive damage
giev!!1!111!!!
Amarr/Gallente
slot layout 8 -5 - 7
8 turret hardpoints
special ability: 50% reduction for large lasers
or 25% damage for large hybrids
or 50% drone damage and hitpoints
Amarr BS skill: 5% armor resist per lvl
Gallente BS skill: 7.5% armour repair amount per lvl
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Ahz
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Posted - 2007.03.24 00:56:00 -
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I agree with the OP that for what these things cost they're underpowered.
As they are it's not worth it to take them into fleet engagements. Pilots know that they'll get called primary just for the novelty of watching them go pop.
Right now the only reason to have one is if you've got three quarters of a billion ISK lying around and you just want to show off.
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Trisae
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Posted - 2007.03.24 01:01:00 -
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Faction Domi would be sex.
That is all.
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John MacCoy
Amarr
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
The Cartel.
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Posted - 2007.03.25 01:23:00 -
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It would be cool to have a faction domi. Another nice thing to have would be a faction Rokh or Hyperion. Another slot on these ships would make them really nice. Maybe new faction ships should be made. Would be really, especially the new textures they would get.
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Arcana Imperii Ltd.
The Cartel
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Naskaya
Elegance
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.05.26 14:09:00 -
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A matar/caldari Typhoon based, would be fun.
Traditionnaly split between Missile and Projectile, it would be logical.
An huge piece of metal, with a 8/5/7 loadout, but with 5/5 turret/missiles hardpoint, improving futhermore the tweak aspect.
Could have both Ladar and Gravimetric sensors due to Caldari inheritance, thus been more difficult to jam.
Not overpowered, just a very cool ship 8)
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.05.26 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Don't complain.. the effect of that is that faction BS droped in price.
What we need is some balancing on the faction BS. Or can you say me that the Fleet Tempest is as good as the Navy Raven?
Fleet Tempest is hardly better than a normal Raven ffs.
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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar
Temptation inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.26 14:45:00 -
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ye my mach needs a big boost..
give it even higher basespeed 
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Audri Fisher
Caldari
VentureCorp
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.26 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Sokratesz
Machariel has PG issues
Rattlesnake has PG issues (when fitting rails / blasters)
Nightmqare has CPU issues
Navy meg / vindi has CPU issues
And the list continues ;P They were never easy to fly but with the new tier-3 BS, they've become somewhat outdated.
My views:
Ok:
-CNR
-Rattlesnake(didn't even think of fitting guns)
Okish:
Vindicator
Machariel
Navy mega
all could use more pg, cpu and honestly, real saving grace for both throns is dronebay
Navy apoc - useless ship but ... it fits, performs its role, but..
Teh impossible to fit:
nightmare <- no more nano, no more nightmare
bhaalgorn <- vindicator b4 blaster fix was easier to fit than this
What's ruining these ship's day:
1. abaddon - yes, cap problems, but you don't need dual rep, so no cap problems. Navy apoc obsolete, bhaalgorn not costeffective anymore(rokh is also excellent vamp platform).
2. hp increases... (i could gank hacs b4 they entered warp... )
3. EW
4. runawayblobmechanics... honestly, I haven't seen gank squads smaller than 15 in last 6 months, preferably all nanoed up and with enough EW/nosf to make CN & blood raiders cry.
Don't take this as a flame Lukec, but you have a unique perspective on point 4. 53 seconds is the response time for Bob and MC carriers/motherships. That means if you can't kill the BoB guy in under that, most coalition FC's are hesitant to engage.
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