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Sir Cheesy
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.10.15 19:37:31 -
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As the title says, need help with fitting an Ishtar and also what level anoms and ded sites it can handle |
Green Cobra
Warwing Security
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Posted - 2016.10.17 09:28:33 -
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Need a bit more information first:
- What kind of anoms are you looking to run, Guristas, Serpentis, Sansha or Angel?
- Are you planing on using it in hostile null sec space so you need a cloak to use MWD cloak trick?
- What price range are you comfortable spending on this ship (remember to only fly ships you can afford to loose)?
Best regards, GC |
elitatwo
Eve Minions
O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1429
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Posted - 2016.10.17 15:18:21 -
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Green Cobra wrote:...
Best regards, GC
Do you even know that your Ishtar doesn't tank anything in that fit since your sentries are out of range for the Serpentis to cause them harm?
Against Serpentis I would even think that a small t2 rep is enough to tank a DED 5.
Just for the purpose of trying things out (was the reactive hardener) I put one t2 kinetic and a reactive hardener on a Deimos to try that in a room full of Guristas.
The reactive hardener shifted and I had 99% kinetic resist while I was sitting still with my mwd on. Every 5 minutes (no joke!) I would pulse one medium rep to "repair" my 400hp armor damage.
I strongly believe an un-regular pvp fit will do just fine.
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Aplysia Vejun
Children of Agasul
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Posted - 2016.10.17 15:52:08 -
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@elitatwo
No, a t2 small rep is not enough. A B-type medium rep combined with 2 hardeners is enough for the ded 5/10 serpentis.
And no again. A reactive hardener does NOT give that much resistances. It gives 60% at most against one damage type. 30% if there are two damage types |
ColdCutz
Frigonometry
129
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Posted - 2016.10.17 17:59:43 -
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Yeah a shield tank will get you 1200 dps tank and even more with implants, plus extra drone damage. You also want to use Caldari drones, because Serpentis are weakest against kinetic.
[Ishtar, Serp Plex]
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Co-Processor II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Pith X-Type Thermal Dissipation Field
Pith X-Type Thermal Dissipation Field
Pithum B-Type Medium Shield Booster
Auto Targeting System II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Core Probe Launcher II, Sisters Core Scanner Probe /OFFLINE
Improved Cloaking Device II
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Warden II x5
Wasp II x5
Vespa II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
Hobgoblin II x5
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elitatwo
Eve Minions
O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1429
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Posted - 2016.10.18 07:23:42 -
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Aplysia Vejun wrote:@elitatwo
No, a t2 small rep is not enough. A B-type medium rep combined with 2 hardeners is enough for the ded 5/10 serpentis.
And no again. A reactive hardener does NOT give that much resistances. It gives 60% at most against one damage type. 30% if there are two damage types
And thanks for not reading. I always love it very much that no human on this forsaken planet listens but all the narcissists like to hear themselves talk all day long without saying anything.
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Aplysia Vejun
Children of Agasul
64
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Posted - 2016.10.18 08:54:16 -
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elitatwo wrote:
And thanks for not reading. I always love it very much that no human on this forsaken planet listens but all the narcissists like to hear themselves talk all day long without saying anything.
Do you know the sites? Like the ded 5/10?
Do you even know how resistances work?
Looking at your answer: no you do not |
Artsnis
Dont Worry Be Wrecked
Freedom Among the Stars
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Posted - 2016.10.19 10:58:52 -
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orbit at 30, deploy drones, watch netflix return in 25 min to move to another haven.
[Ishtar, Unnamed loadout]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Shadow Serpentis 100MN Afterburner
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Drone Link Augmentor II
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Ogre II x5 |
Aplysia Vejun
Children of Agasul
64
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Posted - 2016.10.19 16:54:28 -
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Wrong again.
Ded Complexes aren't hard in an ishtar, that's true.
But you can't go afk in them. or you will lose your drones in seconds as they are often (all 20-60seconds depending on site) attacked. If you go afk you will lose your ship too with Artsnis tactic. |
elitatwo
Eve Minions
O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1430
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Posted - 2016.10.19 17:08:27 -
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Artsnis wrote:orbit at 30, deploy drones, watch netflix return in 25 min to move to another haven.
for any ded orbit@80, watch netflix, move to another gate.
risky to do angel and pretty tricky sansha 10\10, all other DEDs - just get some patience.
[Ishtar, Unnamed loadout]
....Ogre II x5
Why not Praetor II 5x for the Sansha one? Though in the Sansha 10/10 you may have trouble with the station, so you best orbit at 100 or 150.
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Artsnis
Dont Worry Be Wrecked
Freedom Among the Stars
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Posted - 2016.10.19 20:22:24 -
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Aplysia Vejun wrote:Wrong again.
Ded Complexes aren't hard in an ishtar, that's true.
But you can't go afk in them. or you will lose your drones in seconds as they are often (all 20-60seconds depending on site) attacked. If you go afk you will lose your ship too with Artsnis tactic.
I lose like 1 drone per week per3 ishtar accs with like 16h daily online, but if you say so, okay. |
Aplysia Vejun
Children of Agasul
64
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Posted - 2016.10.19 21:42:35 -
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Rats in Ded complexes often have another AI than in anoms.
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Artsnis
Dont Worry Be Wrecked
Freedom Among the Stars
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Posted - 2016.10.20 07:40:41 -
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Aplysia Vejun wrote:Rats in Ded complexes often have another AI than in anoms. They tend to change target more often and in some sites like blood raider 6/10 every few seconds.
not in case of ishtar or VNI particulary.
but if you are doing it in something like myrm or rattle, or whatever, you can ewar anythig (like wreck or container), or even target paint your own drone and it will solve all aggro problems. |
Aplysia Vejun
Children of Agasul
64
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Posted - 2016.10.20 21:09:51 -
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I can't tell about a BS as i don't fly them.
But if you are in a cruiser the rats will go for your drones. Depending on the site you run. And they don't care about ewar at all ( tested i myself many times)
Btw: you can run all nearly all ded sites with an ishtar. The nullsec ones with dozens of bs just take a long time to complete.... Not worth it in my opinion. My prefered site is the blood raider 6/10. In low, not too long and good to great loot. |
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