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Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2534
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Posted - 2016.10.18 02:09:06 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:They aren't that bad. They are just overspecialised for capacitor warfare. They are also very slow, as expected from their preference for armour doctrines, but this is more or less remedied with their specialised stasis webifier electronic systems.
I swore they stole the last one from the Minmatar.
Granted. That they tend to have few med slots means that to truly take advantage of their enhanced web range, it's best if there's two of them working in tandem.
It's really fun to slap a 500mn Microwarp onto an Ashimmu and go a little insane with it. Nobody ever expects to see one of those things running down interceptors. |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2630
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Posted - 2016.10.18 06:22:10 -
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Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:
While I am sympathetic to the Covenant, I have to disagree with their theology.
So you're OK with the draining of blood as long as it's fun for the person doing the draining but you don't agree with the religious reasoning behind it?
Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2630
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Posted - 2016.10.18 06:25:59 -
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Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:Valerie Valate wrote:And "witches" is pretty tame for an insult of the SoE. I'm not Amarr, but isn't witch the term they use for female Sanists? Not going to lie. I like it. We should find another insult for the SOE, if we're going to be in the business of insulting the SOE.
Witch is a generic term used to describe those who sup with the Deceiver, including heretics, blasphemers and pagans
Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
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Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
656
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Posted - 2016.10.18 07:10:12 -
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Sigh... How utterly boring.
Wake me up when spring comes and the Guristas "attack". I am going to nap until then... |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
1675
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Posted - 2016.10.18 07:22:48 -
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Arrendis wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:They aren't that bad. They are just overspecialised for capacitor warfare. They are also very slow, as expected from their preference for armour doctrines, but this is more or less remedied with their specialised stasis webifier electronic systems.
I swore they stole the last one from the Minmatar.
Granted. That they tend to have few med slots means that to truly take advantage of their enhanced web range, it's best if there's two of them working in tandem. It's really fun to slap a 500mn Microwarp onto an Ashimmu and go a little insane with it. Nobody ever expects to see one of those things running down interceptors.
Oversized prop modules: For when you want to experience life as an artillery shell.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Sanguina Dieudonne
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
121
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Posted - 2016.10.18 07:32:50 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:
While I am sympathetic to the Covenant, I have to disagree with their theology.
So you're OK with the draining of blood as long as it's fun for the person doing the draining but you don't agree with the religious reasoning behind it?
I disagree with their assertion that clones are the purest blood. Clones are manufactured in a lab. It's not chemical purity that matters, but spiritual purity. |
Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
8759
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Posted - 2016.10.18 16:52:06 -
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The other shoe.
And it does appear the Republic is not free of this threat.
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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
Sani-Sabik
1713
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Posted - 2016.10.18 17:04:19 -
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I find this whole incident rather strange.
I mean, it's not like the Covenant can't grow their own clones readily. After all, they had a task force investigating the old Takmahl Mass Cloning Device, for that very purpose of mass production of clones, for religious purposes.
Rather odd, if you ask me.
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Nicoletta Mithra
Tekaima Community of New Eden Pilgrims
787
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Posted - 2016.10.18 17:26:40 -
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Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:... Sani theology ...
There's no such thing as "Sani theology". |
Anabella Rella
Gradient
2303
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Posted - 2016.10.18 17:33:10 -
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Odd, suicidal or just plain old stupid; whatever the Blooders motives they will be hunted and killed as they constitute a clear and present threat.
I'll send Sarikusa my regards via Republic Fleet EMP rounds.
When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
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Sanguina Dieudonne
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
121
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Posted - 2016.10.18 17:39:37 -
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Nicoletta Mithra wrote:Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:... Sani theology ... There's no such thing as "Sani theology".
Sure. Whatever you say. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
6555
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Posted - 2016.10.18 18:47:54 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:Odd, suicidal or just plain old stupid; whatever the Blooders motives they will be hunted and killed as they constitute a clear and present threat.
I'll send Sarikusa my regards via Republic Fleet EMP rounds.
Well, well. Something we could agree to spend the afternoon doing, Anabella...
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Jason Galente
Hole Riders
Spaceship Samurai
816
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Posted - 2016.10.18 19:44:07 -
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Confirming that the Raiders have been spotted in J-Space, carrying some rather interesting and advanced boosters.
They're serious pushovers, though, I wouldn't stress too much about the threat these guys pose to capsuleers/empires, but rather, as usual, helpless civilians.
Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole.
And this foundation must be defended.
At any cost
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Sanguina Dieudonne
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
121
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Posted - 2016.10.18 23:08:15 -
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This just in: baseliner cruisers and frigates no threat to capsuleer ships.
There is a reason we are so useful. |
Jason Galente
Hole Riders
Spaceship Samurai
817
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Posted - 2016.10.19 00:04:02 -
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Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:This just in: baseliner cruisers and frigates no threat to capsuleer ships.
There is a reason we are so useful.
Yeah, but I mean these guys are particularly useless. They don't even use capacitor neutralizers or energy nosferatus, like the usual blood raiders you'd come across regionally in the south.
Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole.
And this foundation must be defended.
At any cost
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Ria Nieyli
46507
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Posted - 2016.10.19 00:06:20 -
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Jason Galente wrote:Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:This just in: baseliner cruisers and frigates no threat to capsuleer ships.
There is a reason we are so useful. Yeah, but I mean these guys are particularly useless. They don't even use capacitor neutralizers or energy nosferatus, like the usual blood raiders you'd come across regionally in the south.
They actually have a battleship vessel on some occassions that has an energy neutraliser.
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Jason Galente
Hole Riders
Spaceship Samurai
817
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Posted - 2016.10.19 00:17:22 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:Jason Galente wrote:Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:This just in: baseliner cruisers and frigates no threat to capsuleer ships.
There is a reason we are so useful. Yeah, but I mean these guys are particularly useless. They don't even use capacitor neutralizers or energy nosferatus, like the usual blood raiders you'd come across regionally in the south. They actually have a battleship vessel on some occassions that has an energy neutraliser.
Very rarely, yes. I've cleared at least a dozen of these sites and haven't found one yet.
Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole.
And this foundation must be defended.
At any cost
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
2886
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Posted - 2016.10.19 05:41:25 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Sansha, the Blooders and, now, the Drifters are about the only people in the Cluster you can kill any way you like without feeling bad about it afterwards.
I see it's now Blooder season again.
At least not Gallente season.
But honestly, for me it is actually Federals who are these peoples in the cluster whom I can kill any way I like without feeling bad about it afterwards. I am not sure about these pirates though.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Jason Galente
Hole Riders
Spaceship Samurai
819
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Posted - 2016.10.19 10:02:41 -
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Diana Kim wrote: I am not sure about these pirates though.
You're kidding, right?
Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole.
And this foundation must be defended.
At any cost
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Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
188
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Posted - 2016.10.20 14:53:58 -
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Nicoletta Mithra wrote:Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:... Sani theology ... There's no such thing as "Sani theology".
Heresiology.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
6563
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Posted - 2016.10.20 16:18:19 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Sansha, the Blooders and, now, the Drifters are about the only people in the Cluster you can kill any way you like without feeling bad about it afterwards.
I see it's now Blooder season again. At least not Gallente season. But honestly, for me it is actually Federals who are these peoples in the cluster whom I can kill any way I like without feeling bad about it afterwards. I am not sure about these pirates though.
Now, now, Diana. War has rules for a reason and, at least, we are in a properly declared war.
That means our enemies have certain rights.
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Jjaro Durandal
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2016.10.20 18:49:29 -
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Do we know if they have started abducting capsuleers? |
Bishop Lucas Bishop
Solar Flare Radio
Eve Radio Alliance
0
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Posted - 2016.10.21 01:48:48 -
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The cult has collapsed |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
2889
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Posted - 2016.10.21 08:38:36 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Sansha, the Blooders and, now, the Drifters are about the only people in the Cluster you can kill any way you like without feeling bad about it afterwards.
I see it's now Blooder season again. At least not Gallente season. But honestly, for me it is actually Federals who are these peoples in the cluster whom I can kill any way I like without feeling bad about it afterwards. I am not sure about these pirates though. Now, now, Diana. War has rules for a reason and, at least, we are in a properly declared war. That means our enemies have certain rights.
Unfair, Tuulinen-haan! That was first your idea, I have just moved it towards more important targets.
Besides, weren't you a police officer? Don't criminals deserve fair trial to find out if they were actual pirates and committed actual illegal acts before you push the trigger?.. Unlike them, when you have wartargets - you don't need tribunals. You just shoot'em.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
6567
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Posted - 2016.10.21 16:15:23 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Sansha, the Blooders and, now, the Drifters are about the only people in the Cluster you can kill any way you like without feeling bad about it afterwards.
I see it's now Blooder season again. At least not Gallente season. But honestly, for me it is actually Federals who are these peoples in the cluster whom I can kill any way I like without feeling bad about it afterwards. I am not sure about these pirates though. Now, now, Diana. War has rules for a reason and, at least, we are in a properly declared war. That means our enemies have certain rights. Unfair, Tuulinen-haan! That was first your idea, I have just moved it towards more important targets. Besides, weren't you a police officer? Don't criminals deserve fair trial to find out if they were actual pirates and committed actual illegal acts before you push the trigger?.. Unlike them, when you have wartargets - you don't need tribunals. You just shoot'em.
Oh, you can shoot war-target ships without problems, Diana. I meant the crews to those ships and the Federal Civilians. There's not much you can throw at a war-target and feel bad about after, but you really shouldn't be killing the people, once they can't resist.
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Vollhov Jr
SOERI Academy
RED University
109
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Posted - 2016.10.21 23:33:52 -
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"Crimson Harvest" organized by Blood Raiders covenants is necessary to stop. Not for the sake Catiz, but for the sake of saving lives and future date.
Empress Jamyl I Coronation/Eve Online Gallery/Token of Submission
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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
2130
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Posted - 2016.10.22 00:05:06 -
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Vollhov Jr wrote:"Crimson Harvest" organized by Blood Raiders covenants is necessary to stop. Not for the sake Catiz, but for the sake of saving lives and future date.
Looks like someone's mother gave up on being disappointed with their child's life choices and turned to alcohol...
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Vollhov Jr
SOERI Academy
RED University
111
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Posted - 2016.10.22 00:16:34 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Vollhov Jr wrote:"Crimson Harvest" organized by Blood Raiders covenants is necessary to stop. Not for the sake Catiz, but for the sake of saving lives and future date. Looks like someone's mother gave up on being disappointed with their child's life choices and turned to alcohol...
Blood and Wine in a glass.
You can not imagine how many aristocrats in the Empire worshiped the "Red God" believing in eternal life.
Empress Jamyl I Coronation/Eve Online Gallery/Token of Submission
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
2890
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Posted - 2016.10.22 11:36:44 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Sansha, the Blooders and, now, the Drifters are about the only people in the Cluster you can kill any way you like without feeling bad about it afterwards.
I see it's now Blooder season again. At least not Gallente season. But honestly, for me it is actually Federals who are these peoples in the cluster whom I can kill any way I like without feeling bad about it afterwards. I am not sure about these pirates though. Now, now, Diana. War has rules for a reason and, at least, we are in a properly declared war. That means our enemies have certain rights. Unfair, Tuulinen-haan! That was first your idea, I have just moved it towards more important targets. Besides, weren't you a police officer? Don't criminals deserve fair trial to find out if they were actual pirates and committed actual illegal acts before you push the trigger?.. Unlike them, when you have wartargets - you don't need tribunals. You just shoot'em. Oh, you can shoot war-target ships without problems, Diana. I meant the crews to those ships and the Federal Civilians. There's not much you can throw at a war-target and feel bad about after, but you really shouldn't be killing the people, once they can't resist.
Crews of Federal military ships are not civilians, they are Federal military personnel. Federal Civilian crew are in Federal civilian ships, and I don't care about them - just waste of ammunition. But those, who are inside Federal miliary ships - they are the enemies.
Just like those, who work on a pirate ships as crewmembers - they are pirates, not civilians. And if the enemy can't resist - it is their problem, not mine. They shouldn't have attacked us, and if they were so incompetent to lose their weapon - it is their disgrace and their shame. If I give them chance to return and grab another weapon, then some Caldari citizens and civilians might suffer because I won't be close to save them again from a gallentean occupant, that I foolishly let to escape.
All of us make our own choices what to do, whom to serve, and whose orders to follow. And everyone must answer for their actions and choices. Including crewmembers.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Arnulf Ogunkoya
Clan Ogunkoya
205
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Posted - 2016.10.22 22:34:44 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Crews of Federal military ships are not civilians, they are Federal military personnel. Federal Civilian crew are in Federal civilian ships, and I don't care about them - just waste of ammunition. But those, who are inside Federal miliary ships - they are the enemies.
Just like those, who work on a pirate ships as crewmembers - they are pirates, not civilians. And if the enemy can't resist - it is their problem, not mine. They shouldn't have attacked us, and if they were so incompetent to lose their weapon - it is their disgrace and their shame. If I give them chance to return and grab another weapon, then some Caldari citizens and civilians might suffer because I won't be close to save them again from a gallentean occupant, that I foolishly let to escape.
All of us make our own choices what to do, whom to serve, and whose orders to follow. And everyone must answer for their actions and choices. Including crewmembers.
I used to have much the same attitude towards some hostile groups, principally Blooders. Then it was pointed out to me that you can't really interrogate a corpse or get much intelligence from a destroyed installation. As a consequence I don't destroy structures unless ordered to do so in a mission brief or by my FC. And I only destroy actively hostile ships, or merchant shipping that I have been tasked to interdict.
Regards, Arnulf Ogunkoya.
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