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The Ratfink
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.24 21:36:00 -
[31]
Just Tank your pos's for EM and Thermal you'll be fine 
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Exortius Amarrus
The Clearwater Society Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.24 21:42:00 -
[32]
Excellent post,
good luck. ------------------------
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Aindrias
Amarr Fomus-Amarr Industrial Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2007.03.24 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: The Ratfink Just Tank your pos's for EM and Thermal you'll be fine 
NOOOO!! You let our secret Achilles Heel out! LOL
Aind
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Ragornok
Multiversal Enterprise Inc. Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.25 03:06:00 -
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I haven't been to Providence in quite a few months, but last I recall you also had Imperial Order at the gateway into that lawless space, and were allied with U'K in defending it from CVA.
Can anybody update me on what has happened with Imperial Order, and if they still hold their little toehold in KBP?
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Ma'ra Jade
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Posted - 2007.03.25 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ragornok I haven't been to Providence in quite a few months, but last I recall you also had Imperial Order at the gateway into that lawless space, and were allied with U'K in defending it from CVA.
Can anybody update me on what has happened with Imperial Order, and if they still hold their little toehold in KBP?
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=494466
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.03.25 03:28:00 -
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Man, leave Providence for a couple weeks and all hell breaks lose. Someone fill me in on the details here.
What happened to Imperial Order?
Why is CVA finally pushing for a UK kill now? They've been enjoying having a free punching bag for ages. Seems odd that they'd suddenly get the urge to finish them off now. Has been an ideal setup for CVA, with a perpetual war in which CVA is the victor.
Don't die UK, you guys are fun :(
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DeMundus
The Establishment Establishment
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Posted - 2007.03.25 03:38:00 -
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Just rember to pay isk to the automated toll both now that i cant be there Abandon all hope But take care of teh cake!11 - Immy |

Marcus Grisbius
Gallente Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe
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Posted - 2007.03.25 04:04:00 -
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There have been people in Providence trying to keep the region safe for all neutrals for quite a long time, even before U'K or CVA got to their respective sides of the region. Will be interesting how all of this works out.
Certainty of death... little chance of success... what are we waiting for? - Gimli, son of Gloinn |

zoolkhan
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.25 06:31:00 -
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clarification in response to a few below the belt hits i spotted here.
a) ushra'khan did not post this ; so no this is not the crying desperate on our knees call for help from just anyone.
Honoring the truth - We would certainly not reject help from other freedom fighter organisations though. But they mostly have their own worries.
b) ushra'khan respects his oldest enemy, the CVA and we would not even now hire MC or other mercs because long ago we agreed on certain ROE's and we intend to stick to them. This is totally unrelated from our financial Status.
c) u'k is ralleying allies as a clear sign of our weakness and desperation?
Excuse me, when CVA started their raid they did not come alone either. And we dont blame them.
d) ushra'khan will not die or break because of this
e) my respect goes to teh CVA who are on an all time high in terms of skills and experience, numbers, and t2 ship quality. (they simply double our numbers, and i think before that background we do good)
Obviously they outnumber and outclass us - but more importantly they show us where we need to improve.
Does that make us give up? Nope. (check our alliance age, only fix is older from the yet existing alliances)
Does this make us harder? More likely.
We have no choice as long our kin is still in slavery, the fight will go on.
The shame put on Karishals Defiance will be avenged.
</personal statement>
U'K recruit!
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Isyel
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.25 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: Von Druid Just tank your ships and POS's for EM and thermal damage and you'll be fine :)
Yeah, if it wasn't for the fact that only about half of them even smell close to Amarr while everyone else is in all the other races. 
And it's three of us one the 'will this help or hurt' table.  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Originally by: Wrangler We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want *both* anti-social *and* social players to grief each other!  
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mamolian
Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.25 09:20:00 -
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I'm glad IO have taken a step back, and removed themselves from direct interference from UK and CVA's struggle, however, I urge CVA to try their best to bring even or equal strength numbers.. lest you too destroy whats been created in providence.
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Gaius Kador
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.25 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: mamolian I'm glad IO have taken a step back, and removed themselves from direct interference from UK and CVA's struggle, however, I urge CVA to try their best to bring even or equal strength numbers.. lest you too destroy whats been created in providence.
At the height of the battle for Karishals Folly we were soundly outnumbered and outweighed. ----------------------------------------------
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LordAmarus
Minmatar Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.03.25 14:28:00 -
[43]
Can I come to?
Have No Fear , I Is Here |

Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.03.25 15:56:00 -
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Well, I poked around to try to get info, but found no way to contact you. I was going to bring a Thanatos, an Archon (use the enemy's weapons against 'em, right?) and two support toons in Logistics ships.
Next time--if there is a next time--please publish a channel we can join to coordinate!
MP
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TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs. |

zoolkhan
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.25 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Kador
At the height of the battle for Karishals Folly we were soundly outnumbered and outweighed.
Bullsh17. And it is called "Karishals Defiance"
U'K recruit!
..we come for our people.. |

Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.03.25 16:13:00 -
[46]
Aren't we all slaves?
To our jobs, to our duties even to our own body?
Slavery is natural. Embrace it or die.
EVE War I - Quick Overview
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Gaius Kador
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.25 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: zoolkhan
Originally by: Gaius Kador
At the height of the battle for Karishals Folly we were soundly outnumbered and outweighed.
Bullsh17. And it is called "Karishals Defiance"
Is not! ----------------------------------------------
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Varheg Xan
Athanasius Inc. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.26 01:18:00 -
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Have fun guys. Providence was always fun because of the UK-CVA RP thing, hope the rivalry continues for a while. Good luck and good fights!
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Rikelov
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.26 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Alhalla Will CVA do tha same thing and let Amarr Loyalists Join CVA Fleets to crush these terrorists?
Forums ate my first post...so here goes the quick version;
They already do this, it looked like half of the 17 ship capital fleet we faced today belonged to Sev3rance.
No, we don't form up single file and march into every gate trap that is placed before us, but we do bring it, even when we are alone and out gunned. Today was great evidence of that, we faced off against the combined forces of CVA and Sev3rance and gave em hell for as long as we could. This is far from U'K vs. CVA, it is U'K vs. 'The Slaver Coalition'.
We must be fearsome fighters indeed for such a force to be required to face us. So, thanks for the show of respect and the good fight, keep it up, we can not be defeated.
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TestGreenieQuat
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Posted - 2007.03.26 06:53:00 -
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Edited by: TestGreenieQuat on 26/03/2007 06:49:49 Bah
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Sadao
Minmatar Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2007.03.26 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: Angor Why oh why cant U'K defend their own space and not dock and hide when things get rough. I agree with the cause of opposition to oppression and wish you the best of luck, but there are much bigger and badder things out there than CVA, i think Burn Eden or even Without Reason alone was enough for you guys. Could your diplomats not rally support from allies without announcing it on the forums? Maybe your dread(s) may finally see some combat instead of being fitted with cargo expanders 99% of the time lol. Give em hell.
Misguided fool! U'K are tenacious fighters with honour and zeal. They fight no matter the odds. They have my admiration and respect. They should also have yours.
However they will die before my Artillery!
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Vandamsel
Gallente Dead Eagle North Star Confederation
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Posted - 2007.03.26 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: zoolkhan
Originally by: Gaius Kador
At the height of the battle for Karishals Folly we were soundly outnumbered and outweighed.
Bullsh17. And it is called "Karishals Defiance"
*Was called Karishals Defiance --Vandamsel --Dead Eagle Director |

Equinox Daedalus
Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.26 08:36:00 -
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Yes indeed we did have 17 capitals onhand. not on the inital part of the engangement and I think a few more came in after the tide had been turned and UK forces had retreated. 7's captial fleet consistied of 5 ships. I wouldn't say half.
However due to this post, and the last time we had a Large tower come out with a fleet battle due, UK forces and allies had approx 25 capital ships in system, we thought it be best to be prepared for other hostiles captials besides just your own.
basing our Plan/Thoughts off that previous engagement we assumed we had a proper number of capital ships in place, as we couldn't see the future to plan ahead.
I have never been one to complain about numbers, indeed CVA often fights undermanned on many occasions. Please try to take what you say into consideration.
The Legion of Spoon : Upon wings of wax I fly, never to close to the sun |

Angor
Minmatar The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.26 10:53:00 -
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So how did the "op" go yesterday?
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Wendat Huron
Lupus Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.26 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Suffering Man, leave Providence for a couple weeks and all hell breaks lose. Someone fill me in on the details here.
What happened to Imperial Order?
Why is CVA finally pushing for a UK kill now? They've been enjoying having a free punching bag for ages. Seems odd that they'd suddenly get the urge to finish them off now. Has been an ideal setup for CVA, with a perpetual war in which CVA is the victor.
Don't die UK, you guys are fun :(
It'd be most unwise to remove their perpetual sparring partner from Providence but leave it to the amarr to not see reason.
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Angor
Minmatar The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.26 15:09:00 -
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ISS has gone... They probably just want Unity Station... didnt they take Fabrica (sp)??? a few weeks ago? And I bet Consido (owned by Sylph now?) is probably next.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.03.26 15:30:00 -
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Give me the Insorium prototype and I'll mediate a summit between U'K and CVA.
Well I'll offer to anyways.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Rikelov
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.26 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Equinox Daedalus Yes indeed we did have 17 capitals onhand. not on the inital part of the engangement and I think a few more came in after the tide had been turned and UK forces had retreated. 7's captial fleet consistied of 5 ships. I wouldn't say half.
However due to this post, and the last time we had a Large tower come out with a fleet battle due, UK forces and allies had approx 25 capital ships in system, we thought it be best to be prepared for other hostiles captials besides just your own.
basing our Plan/Thoughts off that previous engagement we assumed we had a proper number of capital ships in place, as we couldn't see the future to plan ahead.
I have never been one to complain about numbers, indeed CVA often fights undermanned on many occasions. Please try to take what you say into consideration.
Yeah, I've already been read the riot act over my poor math skills...you see, MM have a habit of breaking in our new clones over a bottle, or perhaps the bottle was meant to mourn the loss of our brave dread crews, or maybe the brave crews of the enemy's ships...
So in the sober light of day it is closer to 25%...my point remains. CVA are fierce fighters, consistently the toughest fleets I have encountered...I take it as a sign of respect that they bring so many capitals and tech2 ships to face our rag-tag fleet. The last few pos defense attempts I have flown in have faced similar firepower odds.
Keep up the good fight, it only makes us stronger.
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Hardin
Amarr eve's fallen apple corp Caeruleum Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.26 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
It'd be most unwise to remove their perpetual sparring partner from Providence but leave it to the amarr to not see reason.
As the Minmatar terrorist above just stated that which doesn't kill us only makes us stronger. If you want you can view CVA's actions as an extreme form of terrorist Darwinism.
The CVA has never made any secret of the fact that we wish to claim Providence for the Amarrian Empire. The Ushra'khan knew that when they moved here. Contrary to popular belief there is not some cosy arrangement between CVA and Ushra'khan.
The war has been full blooded and hard hitting on both sides. We have 3,300 Ushra'khan kills on our board and I am sure they have a goodly number of ours too.
Yes we backed off when the pirates were threatening to take Unity Station - not in some spirit of RP brotherhood but because as I said at the time 'we want to take it for ourselves' and we honestly preferred terrorists rather than pirates as neighbours.
Now I would also like to address some of the hysteria here.
1) While CVA wants to extend Amarrian 0.0 into Providence. That doesn't mean that other alliances / corporations and individuals cannot live here - only that they need to respect some basic rules (i.e. NRDS & anti-piracy) if they do.
The CVA has a long history of welcoming newbies (even Minmatar newbies ) to our area of Providence and to claim that the region will suddenly be closed IF (and I emphasise IF) we do succeed to push Ushra'khan out is pushing reality to breaking point.
2) The reason I emphasised the IF above is that there seems to be some terrible defeatism on the Minmatar side or assumption that Ushra'khan has already lost. Sure they took a blow when we captured Karisha's Folly but that was hard fought, completely tiring and took weeks of planning on our part.
Even the battles subsequent to us taking the Outpost have been in response to Minmatar aggression rather than a continuation of our offensive. As highlighted elsewhere Ushra'khan have been fighting back (unsuccessfully so far) and as a result the majority of the recent fighting has been on our turf. To claim that Ushra'khan are suddenly about to fold is disingenous to them.
If and again I emphasise if we do EVENTUALLY succeed in taking Unity from them then I have no doubt that Ushra'khan will regroup elsewhere and continue to plague us. They are the terrorists after all. They are supposed to be the underdogs 
3) Now we come on to the subject of allies and friends. The CVA and our Amarrian allies have forged a united front in this war - in typical Amarrian style.
The Minmatars on the other hand have fallen out with each other. We did not ask Ushra'khan to put a bounty on the head of Karen Midular - but they did - and as a result alientated about half of the Minmatar roleplay community.
In pure numbers terms the various Minmatar RP alliances do outnumber CVA and friends - but they have been divided and distracted.
4) Then we come on to quality of pilot. The CVA (and indeed our Amarrian friends) have very successfully held on to much of its 'old school' pilots. As a result there is no doubt that we have an advantage over Ushra'khan and their ilk. That to be honest is not our problem. It is not our problem that Reikoku (this thread needed a BoB mention ) recruited a whole chunk of Ushra'khan's best combat pilots. Are we to blame for that?
Yes Ushra'khan has seen better days, yes us Amarrians have an apparent upperhand at the moment but this three and a half year conflict has always had its ebbs and flows.
When the going gets tough Ushra'khan will learn who they can really rely on and become stronger as a result.
While some accuse me of being patronising I have a huge amount of respect for how Ushra'khan play this game. They are an honour to fight and have more balls that the VAST majority of pilots in EVE. ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607
AMARR VICTOR |

Hardin
Amarr eve's fallen apple corp Caeruleum Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.26 17:43:00 -
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Continued
To claim that they are 'doomed' because of our actions does them a disservice. Yes I am sure its painful to be a member of Ushra'khan right now - and yes I am sure they think we are complete bastards - but at the end of the day we have fought for our right to extend Amarrian law and order to 0.0 and they will have to fight if they want to hold on to what they have got...
------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607
AMARR VICTOR |
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