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Spike Diesel Minmatar Nightgliders	Posted - 2007.03.24 14:21:00 - [1] The Lights Are Going Out All Over Providence The Curatores Veritatis Alliance [CVA] have started their deadly march across the free region of Providence -- one of the few free and open 0.0 regions in the Eve universe. The ISS no longer has a presence in Providence, and today only the proud Ushra'Khan [U'K] stand defiantly before the CVA forces of greed, oppression and slavery. The CVA have fought the U'K back to their last outpost, Unity station in 9UY4-H. Today, as I write this, CVA mobsters are attacking U'K POS's in the adjacent system of U-HYMT. The CVA assault on 9UY4-H is expected to begin within the week. The situation is grim. The loss of Providence will not be the end of U'K -- who will fight no matter where they are based -- but the occupation of the region by the forces of tyranny will spell the end of openess and freedom in a region used by so many people in Tash-Murkon, Derelik and Devoid. One of the oldest RP alliances in Eve, U'K has kept Providence free and open for everyone. U'K does not have a NBSI policy and welcomes travellers from every region of the galaxy. And always protects everyone. Even today as war closes in on them, U'K warriors continue to patrol the pipes from Empire keeping them free from pirates. As their POS's come under attack in adjacent systems, the U'K keeps the Unity outpost free and open for all visitors. As their brothers fall to the CVA fascists, the U'K continues to protect neutral ratters, miners, and traders from harm inside their remaining 0.0 systems. Was there ever a more noble band of warriors, or a more generous assembly of clans, or a more selfless alliance in the history of Eve? When I think of the U'K, I think true blue hero stuff. So now I ask you, warriors of Eve, you traders from Rens, you sons of Minmatar, you mission runners in Derelik, and you ratters from Devoid, shall we stand by idly while the CVA forces of oppression swallow Providence? Will we do nothing to help the outnumbered and outgunned warriors of the U'K? Rise up, I say. Rally to Unity station in 9UY4-H on Sunday afternoon at 15:00. Show your support for freedom. Make a stand for a free Providence. Make a difference. Here's what you can do: (1) Set your standings to Curatores Veritatis Alliance [CVA] to negative. It's good to know who the bad guys are. (2) Find a ship you have always wanted to fly in a glorious legendary battle. Arm it to the teeth. (3) Set your Autopilot to 9UY4-H. The station is called Unity. The region is Providence. The cause is freedom. See you in 9UY4-H on Sunday at 15:00. Keep Providence free!
Mitch Taylor Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.03.24 14:24:00 - [2] nice post, good luck Dark-Rising
Thut'ankh Amon Exit 13	Posted - 2007.03.24 14:29:00 - [3] cool i will see the fall of 9uy \o/ have fun and as small lag as possible Originally by: Noluck Ned Notify Concord is on their way to help you, just hang in there, they are waiting for overlord to respawn
Hustle Fighter Caldari Murientor Tribe Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.24 14:31:00 - [4] Bravo Spike!
Ivo D Minmatar 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.24 14:50:00 - [5] give them hell minmatar brothers ! down with amarr nerf gheyllente.
Pylse Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.03.24 15:00:00 - [6] Regardless of the trouble the foundation of UNITY station created for mercyless piracy in the region, I must admit to have a softspot for Minmatar freedom fighting roleplay. This is a worthy cause gentlemen! Everyone who lives in the northern part of Providence, or who has lived, owes something to Ushra'Khan for the freedom and opportunity this alliance gave them. You can take it from me, Providence would be a hellhole filled with pirates moving freely between sectors, leaving a trail of drought words, scorched wrecks frozen biomass behind them, had it not been for UNITY station blocking their way! If I were you, I would fight a battle for UNITY. Infact, I would fight a battle for UNITY myself, if they just wouldn't slay me after roll call =P
Arakk Caldari VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.24 15:13:00 - [7] i think cva is comprised of the leadership of my alliance (phoenix fleet) in an eve-like text game i used to play called TDZK. our alliance rocked the house! and leo d'green made bada$s sigs!
Alex Under 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.24 15:45:00 - [8] You can always count on RP'ers to make nice posts. This was a nice one Spike. Good luck with your big rally on Sunday. Hope you have a good turnout. "...Amateurs do it until they get it right, Professionals do it until they can't get it wrong..."
Commander Thrawn Fluffy Rabbit Killers	Posted - 2007.03.24 16:00:00 - [9] CVA aren't fashist, they are simply removing the region of minmatar terrorist. Good job CVA! keep spreading the Glory that is Amarr.
Angor Minmatar The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.24 16:15:00 - [10] Why oh why cant U'K defend their own space and not dock and hide when things get rough. I agree with the cause of opposition to oppression and wish you the best of luck, but there are much bigger and badder things out there than CVA, i think Burn Eden or even Without Reason alone was enough for you guys. Could your diplomats not rally support from allies without announcing it on the forums? Maybe your dread(s) may finally see some combat instead of being fitted with cargo expanders 99% of the time lol. Give em hell.

Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.24 16:24:00 - [11] If I am not mistaken, doesn't CVA have a NRDS policy too? --23 Member-- EVE-Trance Radio--The EVE Textboard
TJ17 Gallente DaRk MaTtEr INC. Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.24 16:26:00 - [12] Originally by: Angor Why oh why cant U'K defend their own space and not dock and hide when things get rough. I agree with the cause of opposition to oppression and wish you the best of luck, but there are much bigger and badder things out there than CVA, i think Burn Eden or even Without Reason alone was enough for you guys. Could your diplomats not rally support from allies without announcing it on the forums? Maybe your dread(s) may finally see some combat instead of being fitted with cargo expanders 99% of the time lol. Give em hell. i guess because big brother iss anit around to hire mc to help uk so uk is trying to get as much help as possible and with the recent fall of the imperial order which order all corps to join the executive corp world order so things look grim for uk.
Snodgey2004 Mega Modal M0nkeys	Posted - 2007.03.24 16:31:00 - [13] Edited by: Snodgey2004 on 24/03/2007 16:30:58 Edited by: Snodgey2004 on 24/03/2007 16:30:22 Edited by: Snodgey2004 on 24/03/2007 16:29:49 Good Luck with that Spike , I wish I could be there to chip in but past battles have scarred me and the mere sight of more than 2 people ganged together makes me break out in a cold sweat Nice post and DOWN WITH THE AMARR !!1!! saying that who knows what could happen Edit: As an after thought I can't see this going to well , your banding people together ( a motley crew ) vs a well organised machine , UK alone might be organised but what about all the peeps that do show up ?
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.03.24 16:31:00 - [14] Originally by: Dark Shikari If I am not mistaken, doesn't CVA have a NRDS policy too? That is correct, and they're no friend of pirates either. The Amarr are fighting as a united force, perhaps the Minmatar need to learn to do the same, or they will see the Day of Darkness once more. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Myz Toyou Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.24 16:32:00 - [15] Give them slavers hell U`K CYVOK > All you station jockies better get out their and start killing these idiots
Von Druid Black Omega Security GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.24 17:25:00 - [16] Just tank your ships and POS's for EM and thermal damage and you'll be fine :)
Ange1 Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.03.24 17:27:00 - [17] You know Providence belongs to The Establishment right? Just because we're not there at the moment, doesn't make it any less ours The Establishment is at your service...
zeroh Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.24 18:05:00 - [18] What the feck I thought UK was beating CVA in this war im so very confused snip, your sig exceeds 24000 bytes and lacks sufficient EVE content. -HornFrog
Joskken Inx J.H.E.N.R Pure.	Posted - 2007.03.24 18:13:00 - [19] Originally by: Ange1 You know Providence belongs to The Establishment right? Just because we're not there at the moment, doesn't make it any less ours Yes, you guys are quite the roaming nomads How long have you been in Vale now? 4 months?
Entilzah Valen 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.24 18:16:00 - [20] Interesting. __________________________ [Pending]

Zangief Suikoi 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.24 18:47:00 - [21] Is that you Ben Wallace?
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.24 19:19:00 - [22] I feel this strange urge to fit my imperial issue armageddon with all officer gear and come fight the heinous forces of slavery YOU CAN COUNT ON ME MY MINMATAR BROTHERS !1! Wait what. http://eve.klaki.net/
BlackHorizon Caldari Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.24 19:23:00 - [23] Edited by: BlackHorizon on 24/03/2007 19:19:45 I'm not sure if this thread is supposed to help or hurt U'K. Amarr victor!
Commander Thrawn Fluffy Rabbit Killers	Posted - 2007.03.24 19:38:00 - [24] Originally by: Dark Shikari If I am not mistaken, doesn't CVA have a NRDS policy too? Of course, CVA are a possitive force in the region. the OP is nothing but part of a terrorist propaganda machine.
Miss Alhalla Caldari Tachivana Technologies	Posted - 2007.03.24 19:55:00 - [25] Will CVA do tha same thing and let Amarr Loyalists Join CVA Fleets to crush these terrorists?
Cadiz Caldari No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.03.24 20:15:00 - [26] Funny, I'd say that Providence is as open and free as it is because of the unstinting efforts of the CVA, not in spite of. It's been a wonderful place for people to get their feet wet in 0.0 for much longer than U'K has been in it, and that's almost entirely because of the CVA - either through their own direct action or by bringing in & coordinating with locals who help stabilize the area. So, Golden Fleet, give 'em hell. I'll be cheering for the CVA. ------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Jebidus Skari Amarr S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.	Posted - 2007.03.24 20:23:00 - [27] Originally by: Von Druid Just tank your ships and POS's for EM and thermal damage and you'll be fine :) There are no ship restrictions in the CVA
Tar Kovsky Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.24 20:49:00 - [28] Edited by: Tar Kovsky on 24/03/2007 20:46:20 Originally by: BlackHorizon I'm not sure if this thread is supposed to help or hurt U'K. Makes two of us...
Sandslinger	Posted - 2007.03.24 21:07:00 - [29] Quote: (3) Set your Autopilot to 9UY4-H. The station is called Unity. The region is Providence. The cause is freedom. omg All i foresee is dozens of noob minmatar pilots without proper understanding of 0.0 mechanics autopiloting into 0.0 The local Jolly roger Mob will have a field day Well written post nonetheless though
Jane Spondogolo NoobWaffe	Posted - 2007.03.24 21:11:00 - [30] Originally by: Ange1 You know Providence belongs to The Establishment right? Just because we're not there at the moment, doesn't make it any less ours You know what you must do Ange1. Lots of hippy loot from Minmitar protestors. Godspeed. ______ Unrepentant Southern Federation Cheerleader.

The Ratfink Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.24 21:36:00 - [31] Just Tank your pos's for EM and Thermal you'll be fine
Exortius Amarrus The Clearwater Society Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.24 21:42:00 - [32] Excellent post, good luck. ------------------------
Aindrias Amarr Fomus-Amarr Industrial Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2007.03.24 23:22:00 - [33] Originally by: The Ratfink Just Tank your pos's for EM and Thermal you'll be fine NOOOO!! You let our secret Achilles Heel out! LOL Aind
Ragornok Multiversal Enterprise Inc. Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.25 03:06:00 - [34] I haven't been to Providence in quite a few months, but last I recall you also had Imperial Order at the gateway into that lawless space, and were allied with U'K in defending it from CVA. Can anybody update me on what has happened with Imperial Order, and if they still hold their little toehold in KBP?
Ma'ra Jade	Posted - 2007.03.25 03:14:00 - [35] Originally by: Ragornok I haven't been to Providence in quite a few months, but last I recall you also had Imperial Order at the gateway into that lawless space, and were allied with U'K in defending it from CVA. Can anybody update me on what has happened with Imperial Order, and if they still hold their little toehold in KBP? http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=494466
Mistress Suffering Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.03.25 03:28:00 - [36] Man, leave Providence for a couple weeks and all hell breaks lose. Someone fill me in on the details here. What happened to Imperial Order? Why is CVA finally pushing for a UK kill now? They've been enjoying having a free punching bag for ages. Seems odd that they'd suddenly get the urge to finish them off now. Has been an ideal setup for CVA, with a perpetual war in which CVA is the victor. Don't die UK, you guys are fun :(
DeMundus The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.03.25 03:38:00 - [37] Just rember to pay isk to the automated toll both now that i cant be there Abandon all hope But take care of teh cake!11 - Immy
Marcus Grisbius Gallente Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe	Posted - 2007.03.25 04:04:00 - [38] There have been people in Providence trying to keep the region safe for all neutrals for quite a long time, even before U'K or CVA got to their respective sides of the region. Will be interesting how all of this works out. Certainty of death... little chance of success... what are we waiting for? - Gimli, son of Gloinn
zoolkhan Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.25 06:31:00 - [39] clarification in response to a few below the belt hits i spotted here. a) ushra'khan did not post this ; so no this is not the crying desperate on our knees call for help from just anyone. Honoring the truth - We would certainly not reject help from other freedom fighter organisations though. But they mostly have their own worries. b) ushra'khan respects his oldest enemy, the CVA and we would not even now hire MC or other mercs because long ago we agreed on certain ROE's and we intend to stick to them. This is totally unrelated from our financial Status. c) u'k is ralleying allies as a clear sign of our weakness and desperation? Excuse me, when CVA started their raid they did not come alone either. And we dont blame them. d) ushra'khan will not die or break because of this e) my respect goes to teh CVA who are on an all time high in terms of skills and experience, numbers, and t2 ship quality. (they simply double our numbers, and i think before that background we do good) Obviously they outnumber and outclass us - but more importantly they show us where we need to improve. Does that make us give up? Nope. (check our alliance age, only fix is older from the yet existing alliances) Does this make us harder? More likely. We have no choice as long our kin is still in slavery, the fight will go on. The shame put on Karishals Defiance will be avenged. </personal statement> U'K recruit! ..we come for our people..
Isyel Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.25 09:00:00 - [40] Originally by: Von Druid Just tank your ships and POS's for EM and thermal damage and you'll be fine :) Yeah, if it wasn't for the fact that only about half of them even smell close to Amarr while everyone else is in all the other races. And it's three of us one the 'will this help or hurt' table. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Originally by: Wrangler We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want both anti-social and social players to grief each other!

mamolian Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.25 09:20:00 - [41] I'm glad IO have taken a step back, and removed themselves from direct interference from UK and CVA's struggle, however, I urge CVA to try their best to bring even or equal strength numbers.. lest you too destroy whats been created in providence. -------------------------------
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.25 11:09:00 - [42] Originally by: mamolian I'm glad IO have taken a step back, and removed themselves from direct interference from UK and CVA's struggle, however, I urge CVA to try their best to bring even or equal strength numbers.. lest you too destroy whats been created in providence. At the height of the battle for Karishals Folly we were soundly outnumbered and outweighed. ----------------------------------------------
LordAmarus Minmatar Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.03.25 14:28:00 - [43] Can I come to? Have No Fear , I Is Here
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.03.25 15:56:00 - [44] Well, I poked around to try to get info, but found no way to contact you. I was going to bring a Thanatos, an Archon (use the enemy's weapons against 'em, right?) and two support toons in Logistics ships. Next time--if there is a next time--please publish a channel we can join to coordinate! MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
zoolkhan Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.25 16:00:00 - [45] Originally by: Gaius Kador At the height of the battle for Karishals Folly we were soundly outnumbered and outweighed. Bullsh17. And it is called "Karishals Defiance" U'K recruit! ..we come for our people..
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2007.03.25 16:13:00 - [46] Aren't we all slaves? To our jobs, to our duties even to our own body? Slavery is natural. Embrace it or die. EVE War I - Quick Overview
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.25 21:04:00 - [47] Originally by: zoolkhan Originally by: Gaius Kador At the height of the battle for Karishals Folly we were soundly outnumbered and outweighed. Bullsh17. And it is called "Karishals Defiance" Is not! ----------------------------------------------
Varheg Xan Athanasius Inc. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.26 01:18:00 - [48] Have fun guys. Providence was always fun because of the UK-CVA RP thing, hope the rivalry continues for a while. Good luck and good fights!
Rikelov Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.26 05:10:00 - [49] Originally by: Miss Alhalla Will CVA do tha same thing and let Amarr Loyalists Join CVA Fleets to crush these terrorists? Forums ate my first post...so here goes the quick version; They already do this, it looked like half of the 17 ship capital fleet we faced today belonged to Sev3rance. No, we don't form up single file and march into every gate trap that is placed before us, but we do bring it, even when we are alone and out gunned. Today was great evidence of that, we faced off against the combined forces of CVA and Sev3rance and gave em hell for as long as we could. This is far from U'K vs. CVA, it is U'K vs. 'The Slaver Coalition'. We must be fearsome fighters indeed for such a force to be required to face us. So, thanks for the show of respect and the good fight, keep it up, we can not be defeated.
TestGreenieQuat	Posted - 2007.03.26 06:53:00 - [50] Edited by: TestGreenieQuat on 26/03/2007 06:49:49 Bah

Sadao Minmatar Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.03.26 08:24:00 - [51] Originally by: Angor Why oh why cant U'K defend their own space and not dock and hide when things get rough. I agree with the cause of opposition to oppression and wish you the best of luck, but there are much bigger and badder things out there than CVA, i think Burn Eden or even Without Reason alone was enough for you guys. Could your diplomats not rally support from allies without announcing it on the forums? Maybe your dread(s) may finally see some combat instead of being fitted with cargo expanders 99% of the time lol. Give em hell. Misguided fool! U'K are tenacious fighters with honour and zeal. They fight no matter the odds. They have my admiration and respect. They should also have yours. However they will die before my Artillery!
Vandamsel Gallente Dead Eagle North Star Confederation	Posted - 2007.03.26 08:34:00 - [52] Originally by: zoolkhan Originally by: Gaius Kador At the height of the battle for Karishals Folly we were soundly outnumbered and outweighed. Bullsh17. And it is called "Karishals Defiance" *Was called Karishals Defiance --Vandamsel --Dead Eagle Director
Equinox Daedalus Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.26 08:36:00 - [53] Yes indeed we did have 17 capitals onhand. not on the inital part of the engangement and I think a few more came in after the tide had been turned and UK forces had retreated. 7's captial fleet consistied of 5 ships. I wouldn't say half. However due to this post, and the last time we had a Large tower come out with a fleet battle due, UK forces and allies had approx 25 capital ships in system, we thought it be best to be prepared for other hostiles captials besides just your own. basing our Plan/Thoughts off that previous engagement we assumed we had a proper number of capital ships in place, as we couldn't see the future to plan ahead. I have never been one to complain about numbers, indeed CVA often fights undermanned on many occasions. Please try to take what you say into consideration. The Legion of Spoon : Upon wings of wax I fly, never to close to the sun
Angor Minmatar The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.26 10:53:00 - [54] So how did the "op" go yesterday?
Wendat Huron Lupus Industries	Posted - 2007.03.26 15:00:00 - [55] Originally by: Mistress Suffering Man, leave Providence for a couple weeks and all hell breaks lose. Someone fill me in on the details here. What happened to Imperial Order? Why is CVA finally pushing for a UK kill now? They've been enjoying having a free punching bag for ages. Seems odd that they'd suddenly get the urge to finish them off now. Has been an ideal setup for CVA, with a perpetual war in which CVA is the victor. Don't die UK, you guys are fun :( It'd be most unwise to remove their perpetual sparring partner from Providence but leave it to the amarr to not see reason.
Angor Minmatar The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.26 15:09:00 - [56] ISS has gone... They probably just want Unity Station... didnt they take Fabrica (sp)??? a few weeks ago? And I bet Consido (owned by Sylph now?) is probably next.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.03.26 15:30:00 - [57] Give me the Insorium prototype and I'll mediate a summit between U'K and CVA. Well I'll offer to anyways. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Rikelov Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.26 15:52:00 - [58] Originally by: Equinox Daedalus Yes indeed we did have 17 capitals onhand. not on the inital part of the engangement and I think a few more came in after the tide had been turned and UK forces had retreated. 7's captial fleet consistied of 5 ships. I wouldn't say half. However due to this post, and the last time we had a Large tower come out with a fleet battle due, UK forces and allies had approx 25 capital ships in system, we thought it be best to be prepared for other hostiles captials besides just your own. basing our Plan/Thoughts off that previous engagement we assumed we had a proper number of capital ships in place, as we couldn't see the future to plan ahead. I have never been one to complain about numbers, indeed CVA often fights undermanned on many occasions. Please try to take what you say into consideration. Yeah, I've already been read the riot act over my poor math skills...you see, MM have a habit of breaking in our new clones over a bottle, or perhaps the bottle was meant to mourn the loss of our brave dread crews, or maybe the brave crews of the enemy's ships... So in the sober light of day it is closer to 25%...my point remains. CVA are fierce fighters, consistently the toughest fleets I have encountered...I take it as a sign of respect that they bring so many capitals and tech2 ships to face our rag-tag fleet. The last few pos defense attempts I have flown in have faced similar firepower odds. Keep up the good fight, it only makes us stronger.
Hardin Amarr eve's fallen apple corp Caeruleum Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.26 17:35:00 - [59] Originally by: Wendat Huron It'd be most unwise to remove their perpetual sparring partner from Providence but leave it to the amarr to not see reason. As the Minmatar terrorist above just stated that which doesn't kill us only makes us stronger. If you want you can view CVA's actions as an extreme form of terrorist Darwinism. The CVA has never made any secret of the fact that we wish to claim Providence for the Amarrian Empire. The Ushra'khan knew that when they moved here. Contrary to popular belief there is not some cosy arrangement between CVA and Ushra'khan. The war has been full blooded and hard hitting on both sides. We have 3,300 Ushra'khan kills on our board and I am sure they have a goodly number of ours too. Yes we backed off when the pirates were threatening to take Unity Station - not in some spirit of RP brotherhood but because as I said at the time 'we want to take it for ourselves' and we honestly preferred terrorists rather than pirates as neighbours. Now I would also like to address some of the hysteria here. 1) While CVA wants to extend Amarrian 0.0 into Providence. That doesn't mean that other alliances / corporations and individuals cannot live here - only that they need to respect some basic rules (i.e. NRDS & anti-piracy) if they do. The CVA has a long history of welcoming newbies (even Minmatar newbies ) to our area of Providence and to claim that the region will suddenly be closed IF (and I emphasise IF) we do succeed to push Ushra'khan out is pushing reality to breaking point. 2) The reason I emphasised the IF above is that there seems to be some terrible defeatism on the Minmatar side or assumption that Ushra'khan has already lost. Sure they took a blow when we captured Karisha's Folly but that was hard fought, completely tiring and took weeks of planning on our part. Even the battles subsequent to us taking the Outpost have been in response to Minmatar aggression rather than a continuation of our offensive. As highlighted elsewhere Ushra'khan have been fighting back (unsuccessfully so far) and as a result the majority of the recent fighting has been on our turf. To claim that Ushra'khan are suddenly about to fold is disingenous to them. If and again I emphasise if we do EVENTUALLY succeed in taking Unity from them then I have no doubt that Ushra'khan will regroup elsewhere and continue to plague us. They are the terrorists after all. They are supposed to be the underdogs 3) Now we come on to the subject of allies and friends. The CVA and our Amarrian allies have forged a united front in this war - in typical Amarrian style. The Minmatars on the other hand have fallen out with each other. We did not ask Ushra'khan to put a bounty on the head of Karen Midular - but they did - and as a result alientated about half of the Minmatar roleplay community. In pure numbers terms the various Minmatar RP alliances do outnumber CVA and friends - but they have been divided and distracted. 4) Then we come on to quality of pilot. The CVA (and indeed our Amarrian friends) have very successfully held on to much of its 'old school' pilots. As a result there is no doubt that we have an advantage over Ushra'khan and their ilk. That to be honest is not our problem. It is not our problem that Reikoku (this thread needed a BoB mention ) recruited a whole chunk of Ushra'khan's best combat pilots. Are we to blame for that? Yes Ushra'khan has seen better days, yes us Amarrians have an apparent upperhand at the moment but this three and a half year conflict has always had its ebbs and flows. When the going gets tough Ushra'khan will learn who they can really rely on and become stronger as a result. While some accuse me of being patronising I have a huge amount of respect for how Ushra'khan play this game. They are an honour to fight and have more balls that the VAST majority of pilots in EVE. ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607 AMARR VICTOR
Hardin Amarr eve's fallen apple corp Caeruleum Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.26 17:43:00 - [60] Continued To claim that they are 'doomed' because of our actions does them a disservice. Yes I am sure its painful to be a member of Ushra'khan right now - and yes I am sure they think we are complete bastards - but at the end of the day we have fought for our right to extend Amarrian law and order to 0.0 and they will have to fight if they want to hold on to what they have got... ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607 AMARR VICTOR

DeadDuck Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:05:00 - [61] Can anyone explain me what is a "NRDS" policy ? Thank you
Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:06:00 - [62] Originally by: DeadDuck Can anyone explain me what is a "NRDS" policy ? Thank you Not Red Don't Shoot.
DeadDuck Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:06:00 - [63] Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Originally by: DeadDuck Can anyone explain me what is a "NRDS" policy ? Thank you Not Red Don't Shoot. That applys to npc corps alsow ?
Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:13:00 - [64] Originally by: DeadDuck Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Originally by: DeadDuck Can anyone explain me what is a "NRDS" policy ? Thank you Not Red Don't Shoot. That applys to npc corps alsow ? My understanding is that neutrals are not shot, regardless of corporation, by the alliance controlling the area. That is not to say neutrals will not be shot by others in the area. So, in answer to your question: "Yes", it should apply to npc corp members like everyone else.
Vladimir Titov Minmatar Knights of the Minmatar Republic	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:19:00 - [65] So is help in the form of battleships needed or are we talking about capital ships here?
Thomas Maleficus Caldari all professions	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:49:00 - [66] Edited by: Thomas Maleficus on 26/03/2007 18:46:17 I would like to say a few words. I am no longer a member of UK, and my thoughts are my own here. Both sides of this conflict have great players that fight with honour and skill. For those taking pot shots, you weren't a part of any of this, you don't see the day to day actions. If it weren't for the RP divide here, I would fly with nearly any corp on either side of this conflict. I have a great deal of respect for both the slaver players and the freedom fighter players. This conflict by its very nature is kind of one sided, that's the way it is in oppressors vs the oppressed, otherwise the oppressors would not exist. I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy the RP dialog, takes brains to come up with the stuff these guys think up. Hell somtimes those damn slavers go and say somthing that I can't help but agree with, but then they fix it by adding a few words of vile slaver propaganda (Archi). Much respect to all of you. Wish I could be there again. Leave the personal attacks out of it. How does a constipated amarrian mathematician solve his problem? He works it out with a pencil.
Derran Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.26 19:06:00 - [67] Originally by: Hardin The CVA has never made any secret of the fact that we wish to claim Providence for the Amarrian Empire. You have absolutely no idea what you are getting yourself into. If by some chance you manage to take 9UY, you'll be begging us to take it back so you can retire back to the end of Providence CVA started with.
Mah Kraah Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.26 19:34:00 - [68] Originally by: DeadDuckThat applys to npc corps alsow ? [/quote usualy yes but providence is a multyfaction warzone and often the pilots gets tired of the literaly HUNDREDS of spy alts scouting for ganks, a d2 member asking this question already explain why npc pilots tend to not be save all the time, only resason for a d2 to ask is that he whant to find out if he can send in a spyalt without caring about locals. genuine npc corp pilots would be welcome (in both the cva and uk part) but for 100 npc pilots intruding providence there is may 1 who is just a player without playercorp, rest is alts of hostils or friendlys trying to hide there intend and origin. alts should be removed from the game(personal opineon)
Equinox Daedalus Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.26 21:29:00 - [69] Originally by: DeadDuck Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Originally by: DeadDuck Can anyone explain me what is a "NRDS" policy ? Thank you Not Red Don't Shoot. That applys to npc corps alsow ? In general yes it does, unless we have determined thru carefull overservation of just plain luck that it is indeed someone of hostile intent.(be it scout spy alt etc). It does pain myself to see ppl use this but they do take advantage of the situations CVA and any other NRDS alliances run/control. The Legion of Spoon : Upon wings of wax I fly, never to close to the sun
Mistress Suffering Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.03.26 22:02:00 - [70] Both UK and CVA need public killboards so we can enjoy this event properly. Yes, actually admitting to losses requires *********, but both of these groups have the potential to produce some. Open up those killboards guys.

Karn Mithralia Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:45:00 - [71] Originally by: Mistress Suffering Both UK and CVA need public killboards so we can enjoy this event properly. Yes, actually admitting to losses requires *********, but both of these groups have the potential to produce some. Open up those killboards guys. We have no trouble admitting our losses, I can't speak for CVA (although I assume they have the same policy) but its mandatory for all UK pilots to post their losses on our killboard. It's been a long time policy of ours to not make our killboard details public for many good reasons and I can't see us reviewing it any time soon. It's more than likely at some point someone, on one side of the conflict or the other, will write a 'results' post so you can gauge the scale of things. ----------------------------------------- Now recruiting.
Darius Shakor Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.27 10:04:00 - [72] Adding to what Karn has said, we do not measure our worth or anyone elses based on kilboard figures. They don't tell nearly a clear and accurate enough story. We are not an epeen alliance and we don't really care if we loose hundreds of ships to every CVA ship. If we win we win. Campaigns are decided by the end result not the killboard stats. Thats more a merc way of doing things. Besided killboards being public only helps to generate the usuall nonsense debates on 'yeah but yesterday you guys lost xxxx lol, so you got lucky today' and so on. You know, the kind of talk that plauges this forum section lately. We don't care to enter that arena of garbage and just have fun actually planing instead of trawling the killboards to see how everyone is getting on. Personally I would prefer that they removed kill mails all together. If I want to keep score of my kills and losses I would get a pad of paper and make little tally marks on it. ------ Shakor Clan Information Portal
Morden Nok Cohortes Vigilum Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.27 12:38:00 - [73] CVA also has policy that all losses should be posted at our KB, because KB loses most of it's value as internal intel tool if pilots are not posting their losses. I know that "post all losses policy" is not 100% effective, but I think that is true with all killboards. We have many good reasons for keeping our KB private and I don't think that we would open it in the future. But to the other points: It doesn't really matter which loses more ships, CVA or UK. Most important thing is achieving the objectives set. And anyone thinking that UK will kneel down and die if we take 9U really doesn't understand UK. To the numbers issue brought up: At the fight at the UK deathstar in QR, there were 55 CVA and 7 CVA allies (total 62) against 53 UK and 6 UK allies (total 59). Plus of course the Deathstar on UK's side that we lost most of our ships to. We had total of 17 cap-ships, of these 12 were CVA (70%) and 5 were Sev3rance (30%). Considering that some pilots claim that Sev3rance totalled half of our cap fleet, those pilots should really start learning some elementary maths. Of course not many people are willing to come help their friends with 5 capital ships in an operation that has major risk of capital losses, so I do salute our allies.
dralid Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.27 13:57:00 - [74] The minmatar in me wants to go chop some heads ... The gallente in me urges me to stay out ... F0ck gallente, I'm going in! -- Do YOU know, the Whirlwind? HERE
mamolian Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.14 07:21:00 - [75] Originally by: dralid The minmatar in me wants to go chop some heads ... The gallente in me urges me to stay out ... F0ck gallente, I'm going in! The gallente in me wants to help behind the scenes.. The minmatar in me wants to know if the cynos activated yet.. Dralid wait for meh! -------------------------------
Master OlavPancrazio Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.04.14 10:52:00 - [76] Edited by: Master OlavPancrazio on 14/04/2007 10:48:52 If CVA does take 9uy, they'll quickly realize it's a big pain in the arse to hold. They'll probably begging UK to take it back so they can retreat back to there completely over-packed Misaba-R3 provi entrance.
sherbert lemon Amarr Black Omega Security GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.04.14 11:37:00 - [77] Originally by: Von Druid Just tank your ships and POS's for EM and thermal damage and you'll be fine :) Aha, the amarr sikrit is out. Now Ushra'Khan will surely win (btw if u want to fight the amarr slavers go to 9UYA-H cleary as the title of the thread states, those that wnat to fight them, 9UY4-H will do just as well :) ) GL to both sides, though i know who the emperor is voting for.
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2007.04.14 14:06:00 - [78] I come and help the minmatar brothers and sisters! Down with the Amarr slavers!!
Scagga Laebetrovo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.04.14 14:51:00 - [79] Originally by: Gnulpie I come and help the minmatar brothers and sisters! Down with the Amarr slavers!! Be silent, heathen. Delictum 23216 Official forums
Bazman Caldari Werda Fookarwii	Posted - 2007.04.14 17:46:00 - [80] Can I come too? -----

Drakus Minmatar all professions	Posted - 2007.04.14 23:52:00 - [81] threads over 3 weeks old... why are people still posting in it? lol bad nercro'er!
PHPR Freighter Minmatar PTS Industries	Posted - 2007.04.15 08:43:00 - [82] I will be there. and my Caldarian friend will be there fighting along U'K. I want to keep my future home open to all of the Matari. DOWN WITH AMMAR!!! (or however you spell it) /me loads up lots of spare Caracals, Vexors and misc other ships. I may come down with my Amarrian Alt just to insult the amarrians at how pathetic their ships are!
AngryCanuk Madison Industrial Co. Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.15 10:16:00 - [83] I hope i can be there today, want to shoot something :P Honor does not have to be defended. - Robert J. Sawyer


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